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Vamp_Aubrey
12/23/18 11:27:13 PM
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Vamp_Aubrey
12/23/18 11:27:21 PM
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With all the drama that's been going on, it's time for some fuckin' truth. If this gets modded, so be it.

green butter is possibly the most toxic person I've ever met, and I'm tired of holding back on it. I don't give a shit if he thinks I'm talking shit about him behind him back. The previous confession about him leading men on then dumping them when he gets what he wants out of them is 100% accurate. He also has a massive victim complex. He will never see himself as being in the wrong, even while he goes around hurting people left and right. I've also recently cut him out of my life because frankly, he's become my trauma, and I can't deal with him being in my life anymore. I've been talking to green butter for a while before he and Drunkmuggle got together and remained friends with him after they got together. We started talking in January. Most of this time we were talking literally daily. After Drunkmuggle was super neglectful to him for the two months they were together, against my better judgement (because I liked and genuinely cared about him), I played the emotional boyfriend. Supported him when Drunkmuggle treated him like shit, comforted him, cheered him up, whatever. Granted, I fucked up a bunch myself even up until the end, not going to lie. I'll take my blame and responsibility for those actions. A lot of it had to do with Drunkmuggle treating me like garbage (knowingly or unknowingly) after knowing him for years from the CE tinychat, with Green butter being related. This happened specifically after I said I would support the two of them, which I did unbiasedly. However, since we were all friends, I would always update him on what's going on. This isnt a Drunkmuggle post, though.

When they broke up (and not going to lie, even slightly before the breakup), he began to latch onto me, told me that he loved me, encouraged me to fall in love with him, which I sadly ended up doing around that point, with the interest suddenly being mutual. Also against my better judgement. He acted like we were dating in the Sanctuary discord. We were basically nondating, even if he said that he was "confused about him breakup" with Drunkmuggle. Apparently you can still love the people that abuse and enable you. After a bit of this, he began to aggressively flirt with other people in the Sanctuary discord. Immediately after making it look like we were dating to everyone. Before, during, and after this, we had talked about it a couple times but he refused to be clear about what he wanted. This went on for a few days of back and forth between us.

Eventually we mutually agreed to be friends because according to him us being together would be "unhealthy", which I was okay with despite having lingering romantic feelings over because I admired him drive and passion for nursing among other things. We agreed to be more mindful of each other and considerate of each others feelings, since in an effort to move on from him, I had also jokingly flirted in the Sanctcord a bit. But him outrage about that is more based in a perceived hypocrisy on my part than actually being bothered by it. And, to be honest, he did genuinely improve for a while there, but it wasnt what he wanted I think. I wanted him to become the most emotionally healthy, independent person he could. Because he wasn't. Which for reasons I'll describe later, he clearly doesn't want, even if at the time he said he did. He would also go on to say that he still really liked me in that way for a while.

I was always up front and honest with him. Even my negative points. At some points I would be, for the most part, the only person he'd seriously talk with. When he and t_paynes_ghost started talking, he would show me screenshots about what they're talking about.
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Vamp_Aubrey
12/23/18 11:28:20 PM
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I talked to him about how unhealthy it was because of T_paynes_ghost's history with him mental health and him tendency to emotionally abuse the people around him. (Granted, I like T_paynes_ghost and wish the best for him, and hope he gets the help he needs.) They ended up not dating. When he talked to Muffinz0rz, he would send me screenshots of some suspect behavior and red flags from the stuff Muffinz0rz would say. Now I don't know the full context of these statements, but honestly I'm kind of creeped out by him now. They ended up not happening, as far as I know, due to reservations on Muffinz0rz's part. Muffinz0rz will honestly be better for it in the long run. Now with Catboy0_0, he would send me screenshots of the shit he would send him. He told him that he loved him after two days. Made him promise to marry him almost immediately while he was drunk. Talked about fathering children with him within a week. He would send me these screenshots and he displayed discomfort. I reaffirmed how fucked up and creepy that shit was. When I asked if he was imposing a relationship on him, he said that he was. He would even openly display discomfort in the Sanctuary discord about him interactions with him, even if he didn't name names. In Catboy0_0's case, on top of everything, I think he "loves" him because he gives him blind affection, defends him publicly even if it makes him look bad, and enables him worst traits. But he would go on to continue talking to whomever he was talking to because they gave him affection, because that's what he wanted ultimately. Generally in most cases though, he'd reciprocate the feelings of love back to the person. Telling them that he loved them back even if it's only been a week. He even did that to Drunkmuggle, even though in his case he did it to him first.

You see, the thing is, Green butter's biggest problem is him fat little son. They were in a strange, controlling relationship with one another before he royally fucked him over in unbelievable ways. Green butter has been open about the ways he's damaged him. Particularly to me and in the Sanctuary discord. But, he's not over him, clearly. He constantly complains about how he wants to be loved, even while people are actively showing it to him. Even after I gave him as much love as I could because he was receptive to it and said he wanted to feel that way, he would later go on to say that he hasn't been loved in a long time after the fact. Not since him ex husband. Now here's the thing, yeah? As far as I've interpreted it with everything I've seen, he's dating Catboy0_0 because him ultra creepy controlling dom nature reminds him of him ex. He wanted to date a mutual friend of ours because their discussions reminded him of him ex. He latches onto a bunch of people because he wants to feel loved, just like he did when he was with him ex. Even if him ex treated him like a bag of garbage.

He also has grown accustomed to being controlled in a relationship, both romantically and in him real life settings. You see, that's why he struggled with me. I pushed him to be an independent, self reliant, emotionally healthy person (again, at the time he said this is what he wanted). But he didn't want that. He wanted to be in him comfort zone. Have someone control him entire life while feeling loved, so that he doesn't have to make any decisions on him own. Plus, if something goes wrong, it's not him fault. Now, between hearing about him problems since we started talked, along with having front row seats to him cycling through unhealthy relationships, I'd developed a sense of overprotectiveness about him. In cases like this, if you care about them, you either do that or you get out of the way and drop them. But Green butter has severe trust and abandonment issues, and I wasn't willing to feed them. I'd always give him advice as much as I could, even if he didn't specifically ask for it. He'd always listen to me pointing out the very obvious red flags, but he'd normally end up doing whatever he wanted.
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Vamp_Aubrey
12/23/18 11:29:19 PM
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Which is his right. He can do whatever he wants. I never felt entitled to a relationship with him, and if anything a good chunk of my pain is from when he made it out publically like we were actually dating (even if he didn't say it outright), then moved onto other people without being clear with me. However, in hindsight, I will say that I should've made the second choice out of the game and gotten out of the way.

I don't think anyone feels entitled about him. I think he very aggressively flirts, and people catch feels, but he never outright denies them because he liked the affection he was getting from other people. Personally, I never actually cared if we were actually dating or not, moreso than I did being betrayed by someone close to me. He doesn't know how to say no or stand his ground when it comes to this kind of stuff. He just lets it happen. I have a theory it's so that he can always remain a victim. He's never wrong, after all.

Over the last 2 months, my emotional health has waned in large part due to green butter. Whenever I would talk to him, I'd get one word answers and deflections. Disinterest, basically. Unless he wanted to vent about some drama issue he's having with whomever. Whenever I would try to communicate how he's affecting me, he would give me short answers, never acknowledge anything I'd say. It's like watching your closest friend willing go onto a downward spiral, and allowing themselves to be manipulated. You see, I thought we were close, given all that we'd shared and been through together this whole time from January until June. It was a long six months and I took our friendship seriously. Sometimes he'd apologize because he thought it'd keep me around/the "drama" would go away, but he didn't actually feel sorry for his actions. He'd turn right around and go back on what he said immediately after without a second thought. Even accusing me of jealousy/being buttmad because he's giving attention to other people, but honestly I just cared about him and knew he was fucking up his life. He always said he knows whats he's doing, and I believe it. He wants whatever bad shit happens in his life. He's using unhealthy relationships with people as a substitute for getting professional help and therapy. Because he "wants to be happy". Even if it's a facade. He's told me before that he thinks he might have BPD or Bipolar (which is a big reason I supported him going to therapy), and while I don't know if he has those, I believe he has something.

As I mentioned previously, I cut him out of my life. Whenever he's around or comes up, I'm literally in physical pain. Like I said, he became my trauma. I talked to him almost daily for six months, most of the time about deeply personal shit. Plus with the history I've described, feelings and emotional investment were extremely muddled. Particularly on my end. He would never give me a straight answer on what I was to him. First I blocked him on everything but Facebook Messenger and told him why I was doing this. I wanted him to be able to contact me if he really needed someone to confide in (as he has been doing), because I didn't want to abandon him knowing his issues. Then I told his that I couldn't just sit there and watch him be online on Messenger and explained that I'm blocking him there too. After one of my friends called him out on causing people emotional pain among other things, he texted me telling me that it wasn't cool and that he knew it was me that talked to him. I explained I needed a support system. Outside of recently noting his toxic behavior, I've never talked shit about him, I've never given out personal information, and I've never painted him in a bad light. I always defended him where necessary if I was asking for feedback about certain situations from people that I knew and trusted.
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Vamp_Aubrey
12/23/18 11:30:03 PM
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I then got wind of a post he made in that same topic replying to my friend about how Muffinz0rz was *actually* a great person. Implying that I'm garbage, basically. At that point, I messaged him, told him that I'm glad the truth came out about he thinking I'm garbage. It'll help me move on, knowing that's how he thought of me, and gave him a definitive goodbye. I left his response on read, since it was just more of his regular deflections.

Ever since I've cut him out I've basically done nothing by talk about Muffinz0rz and Catboy0_0 and all the drama that's been going on the past couple days. The Sanctuary board is going nuts right now from what I hear. I wanted to get the truth out there, because I'm tired of green butter saying that we're in the wrong and that we feel entitled, when that's not the case at all. Particularly in my case, I feel. He's an enabler, and it's really sad. Even now, I want nothing for the best for him, which in my personal opinion after everything I've seen, would be to stop focusing on getting affection from people, get professional help to deal with his mental issues, and focus on his schoolwork and getting over his fat little son whom he's still clearly hung up on. But he'll never understand where I'm coming from, unfortunately, and I refuse to allow him to control my emotional health anymore.

If green butter decides to retaliate with personal information about me because of this, I'm okay with that. As Childish Gambino said, "So I learned cut out the middle man, make it all for everybody, always. Everybody can't turn around and tell everybody, everybody already knows, I told them."
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Blue_Inigo
12/23/18 11:36:38 PM
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Butterfiles
12/23/18 11:37:03 PM
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I saw Green Butter at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didnt want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, Oh, like youre doing now?

I was taken aback, and all I could say was Huh? but he kept cutting me off and going huh? huh? huh? and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like Sir, you need to pay for those first. At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually to prevent any electrical infetterence, and then turned around and winked at me. I dont even think thats a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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rikasa
12/23/18 11:39:00 PM
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Oof. Don't make your happiness other people's responsibility. And for the love of god avoid discord drama if you're the kind of person who gets consumed by it.
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Puglia77
12/23/18 11:44:22 PM
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Is this a copypasta
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clearaflagrantj
12/23/18 11:45:51 PM
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What in God's fucking name
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Vyrulisse
12/23/18 11:50:40 PM
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Puglia77 posted...
Is this a copypasta

Yeah
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glitteringfairy
12/23/18 11:59:15 PM
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Hold the fuck up

Greenbutter, drunkmuggle, t Payne, muffin, and Alan are all homosexual?!
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Weezy_Tha_Don
12/24/18 12:00:56 AM
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tldr
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a-c-a-b
12/24/18 12:02:30 AM
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The only thing I know about green butter is that it makes your baked goods waaaaay better.
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/18 12:02:54 AM
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Lmfaooooo
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:05:21 AM
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TC is sad
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--Zero-
12/24/18 12:13:57 AM
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Lmao learn to use a fucking paragraph and spell check.

I skimmed through all that horse shit and came to the conclusion that you are jealous that he is ghosting you for other men and you believe that when he was with you that you were making him a better person. Get over yourself.

6 months of an invested e-relationship became your "trauma" tells me you need some serious help.
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:35:58 AM
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--Zero- posted...
Lmao learn to use a fucking paragraph and spell check.

I skimmed through all that horse shit and came to the conclusion that you are jealous that he is ghosting you for other men and you believe that when he was with you that you were making him a better person. Get over yourself.

6 months of an invested e-relationship became your "trauma" tells me you need some serious help.


None of them are gay. Its just attention seeking and clique-forming stuff.

Its like those ATTN - (USERNAME) topics, why not use PM?
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rikasa
12/24/18 12:38:21 AM
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They're not gay but they're dating in Discord?
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:39:32 AM
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rikasa posted...
They're not gay but they're dating in Discord?


You see? Clique this clique that. Haha we talk to each other on discord and youre not part of our clique
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Darkman124
12/24/18 12:39:46 AM
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the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic
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rikasa
12/24/18 12:39:57 AM
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I don't see. He said dating
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DezDroppedFreak
12/24/18 12:40:04 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic

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CM_Ponch
12/24/18 12:41:33 AM
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Lmao e-drama
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Reis
12/24/18 12:42:24 AM
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:43:23 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic


Its obviously a copy pasta... but I cant recognize which one it is
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glitteringfairy
12/24/18 12:44:20 AM
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SchoolForAnts posted...
Darkman124 posted...
the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic


Its obviously a copy pasta... but I cant recognize which one it is

Well then why don't y'all learn us
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:44:56 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Darkman124 posted...
the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic


Its obviously a copy pasta... but I cant recognize which one it is

Well then why don't y'all learn us


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glitteringfairy
12/24/18 12:46:12 AM
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Marked for harassment
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iron jojo
12/24/18 12:48:27 AM
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Whoah
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 12:48:46 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Marked for harassment


Knowing your friends the mods they will find an excuse to give me a 9947473837373838473743 karma loss moderation along with a message like be nice to glitteringfairy, p.s. 14.88 but I still want to entertain your joke: what is harassment about pointing out something you have actually done several times, @glitteringfairy ?
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glitteringfairy
12/24/18 12:49:35 AM
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Sigh. Marked again, tough guy.
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bnui_ransder
12/24/18 12:50:33 AM
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I swear I've read that exact thing before with different names
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teepan95
12/24/18 12:57:17 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
the fact that none of the initial responses have any idea what is going on is amazingly hilarious

A++++ topic

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MrMallard
12/24/18 1:03:09 AM
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is

is this a copypasta of Vulgar's Joestarrr post?
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 1:04:06 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Sigh. Marked again, tough guy.


Who is the snowflake now?
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AvantgardeAClue
12/24/18 1:04:49 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
What in God's fucking name

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Crimson_Angel
12/24/18 1:09:06 AM
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand green butter. His humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also green butter's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike green butter truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in green butter's existential catchphrase "green butter" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as green butter's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a green butter tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
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glitteringfairy
12/24/18 1:15:57 AM
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SchoolForAnts posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Sigh. Marked again, tough guy.


Who is the snowflake now?

Third mark. Keep em coming
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Axiom
12/24/18 1:19:53 AM
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This pasta is way too long
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SchoolForAnts
12/24/18 1:35:48 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Sigh. Marked again, tough guy.


Who is the snowflake now?

Third mark. Keep em coming


Hi
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Parappa09
12/24/18 3:42:41 AM
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i died before i could read the whole thing

thanks green butter
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Vamp_Aubrey
12/24/18 7:53:43 AM
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Also I will say that green butter taking "the high road here" is 100% certified bullshit. He's just trying to publicly make himself look good after trashing everyone that even remotely cared about him after the last six months. Perfect example of what I said in the original tl;dr.
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Romulox28
12/24/18 8:01:20 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Hold the fuck up

Greenbutter, drunkmuggle, t Payne, muffin, and Alan are all homosexual?!

Yes
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BreezyExcursion
12/24/18 8:19:59 AM
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hi
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Romulox28
12/24/18 8:22:03 AM
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BreezyExcursion posted...
hi

Merry Xmas from my Italian family to your italain family
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drunkmuggle
12/24/18 10:55:02 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hold the fuck up

Greenbutter, drunkmuggle, t Payne, muffin, and Alan are all homosexual?!

Yes

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FL81
12/24/18 10:55:45 AM
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YourDrunkFather
12/24/18 11:08:03 AM
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I kinda can't believe how few people know what this is
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