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littlebro07
12/20/18 3:53:22 PM
#51:


Anteaterking posted...
littlebro07 posted...
I just don't understand cheating. Why not just tell the person you're with that you don't love them anymore, then go be a slut? Either way they're gonna get hurt, but at least if you cut things off before sleeping around, you won't risk bringing some STD home and not only breaking their heart but ruining their life as well.

Idk, maybe I'm just not a shitty person.


A lot of cheating happens because Person A isn't getting something from their relationship with Person B that they want, and they think by cheating that they can get that from Person C without sacrificing the parts of their relationship with Person B that they want. So breaking up with B and replacing them with C isn't a better situation for them.


Why not just tell person B "hey, I'm not getting things I want" so B can try and fix that?

TheGoldenEel posted...
littlebro07 posted...
I just don't understand cheating. Why not just tell the person you're with that you don't love them anymore, then go be a slut? Either way they're gonna get hurt, but at least if you cut things off before sleeping around, you won't risk bringing some STD home and not only breaking their heart but ruining their life as well.

Idk, maybe I'm just not a shitty person.

Have you ever been in a long term relationship


Been married for five years, together for eight. She drives me insane occasionally but I've never once thought about cheating on her. We actually communicate whenever one of us has an issue with the relationship, which I understand is unfortunately a rare thing for a lot of couples.
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Anteaterking
12/20/18 3:53:59 PM
#52:


Typhon posted...
I strongly disagree. She is the one responsible for the situation.

If she hadn't cheated, the situation wouldn't exist.

If she hadn't lied, the situation wouldn't exist.

If she told dude from the start that it isn't, or might not be, his child - he could leave then, before the child has a chance to know him, or he could decide to stay anyway.

If he does leave, or even if he decides to stay, the mother could (should) introduce the child to its real father.


Bad things will probably happen to you in life and you're still going to be responsible for how you respond to them. I don't think anyone in this topic is saying "You have to stay with the wife who cheated on you for the kids!". If your response to something bad happening to you is to turn around and retaliate against your children, you aren't absolved of that response.

Also, that's not the child's real father. It may be their biological father, but that's it.
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littlebro07
12/20/18 3:56:12 PM
#54:


CloneTheHero posted...
giving your dna to companies is prob the dumbest thing a person can do.


What if a disgruntled employee is purposely fucking results up to make it look like people are cheating whores
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Typhon
12/20/18 3:56:44 PM
#55:


Anteaterking posted...
your children

Also, that's not the child's real father.


Troll post, ignoring.
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Kombucha
12/20/18 3:56:56 PM
#56:


I'm not reading all of that, but I read long enough to wtf at this

Jenny's mother admitted she had hoped to take the secret with her to her grave. She had never told her husband about the affair, so the man who raised Jenny was unaware he was not her biological father - something which Jenny now finds "incredibly reassuring".
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tennisdude818
12/20/18 3:58:56 PM
#57:


Twin3Turbo posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Men need a birth control pill. Amazing how the prospect of the male pill makes some feminists angry.

Really? Women have gotten mad at a proposed pill for men? When?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course-women-dont-want-male-pill--end-happy-little-accidents.html
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littlebro07
12/20/18 3:59:00 PM
#58:


Kombucha posted...
I'm not reading all of that, but I read long enough to wtf at this

Jenny's mother admitted she had hoped to take the secret with her to her grave. She had never told her husband about the affair, so the man who raised Jenny was unaware he was not her biological father - something which Jenny now finds "incredibly reassuring".


Did you even read the next couple of sentences? The guy who raised her was introverted and innocent, she thinks if he found out it would totally destroy him.
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Esrac
12/20/18 3:59:08 PM
#59:


Kombucha posted...
I'm not reading all of that, but I read long enough to wtf at this

Jenny's mother admitted she had hoped to take the secret with her to her grave. She had never told her husband about the affair, so the man who raised Jenny was unaware he was not her biological father - something which Jenny now finds "incredibly reassuring".


Wow. I over looked that.

I guess she is her mother's daughter, at least.
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s0nicfan
12/20/18 4:02:59 PM
#60:


Esrac posted...
Kombucha posted...
I'm not reading all of that, but I read long enough to wtf at this

Jenny's mother admitted she had hoped to take the secret with her to her grave. She had never told her husband about the affair, so the man who raised Jenny was unaware he was not her biological father - something which Jenny now finds "incredibly reassuring".


Wow. I over looked that.

I guess she is her mother's daughter, at least.


There's a way worse story further down:
Betty Jo wanted to be absolutely sure that her dad could not be the man who raised her, so she went one step further. Although he had died three years earlier, she had some of his hair and she sent it to a lab to do a paternity test. The analysis came back saying they shared 0% DNA.

At this point her half-sister said what she was doing was "evil" and in a family group text message Betty Jo was told, "You no longer exist to us." Since then Betty Jo has not spoken to her half siblings or her mother.

"It's sad, because my mom and I had a close relationship when I was growing up," she says. "She used to call me every week and now - never. I cried every day for months, I was depressed, had a sort of breakdown. Christmas is an especially difficult time of year, but my kids and my husband have been really supportive and I'm much better now."

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Zerocide
12/20/18 4:04:27 PM
#61:


Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?

Got the mother to thank for.

Look, I won't lie and say it will be easy because you got attached to the child. But these are the types of problems that get conjured up for lying.

Don't trick men into having them believe they are the father, then shit like this won't happen.
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TheGoldenEel
12/20/18 4:07:07 PM
#62:


littlebro07 posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...
littlebro07 posted...
I just don't understand cheating. Why not just tell the person you're with that you don't love them anymore, then go be a slut? Either way they're gonna get hurt, but at least if you cut things off before sleeping around, you won't risk bringing some STD home and not only breaking their heart but ruining their life as well.

Idk, maybe I'm just not a shitty person.

Have you ever been in a long term relationship


Been married for five years, together for eight. She drives me insane occasionally but I've never once thought about cheating on her. We actually communicate whenever one of us has an issue with the relationship, which I understand is unfortunately a rare thing for a lot of couples.

So youve never been sexually attracted to someone other than your wife in your time together?
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The Great Muta 22
12/20/18 4:07:35 PM
#63:


Typhon posted...
Anteaterking posted...
your children

Also, that's not the child's real father.


Troll post, ignoring.


I mean, it's a pretty common belief. You've never heard the whole "Any man can be a sperm donor, not every man can be a father" thing?

tennisdude818 posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Men need a birth control pill. Amazing how the prospect of the male pill makes some feminists angry.

Really? Women have gotten mad at a proposed pill for men? When?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course-women-dont-want-male-pill--end-happy-little-accidents.html


Did you actually bother to read the article? Or even start it. This is the opinion of ONE woman, from almost 9 years ago, which also cites openly in the article:

"Or as Professor Richard Anderson of the University of Edinburgh says: When we carried out surveys of women, they were enormously enthusiastic.The single most common reason was that they wanted to share the responsibility for contraception."

I think you're just making shit up you want to be true so you can hate feminists some more
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Anteaterking
12/20/18 4:08:16 PM
#64:


littlebro07 posted...
Why not just tell person B "hey, I'm not getting things I want" so B can try and fix that?


That just sounds like a naive or optimistic question, no offense. People usually get to these situations through communication breakdowns for various reasons in the first place, so "Why not just communicate?" isn't the right question.

Zerocide posted...
Don't trick men into having them believe they are the father, then s*** like this won't happen.


You know you can leave your wife and still love your child, right?
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:09:19 PM
#65:


s0nicfan posted...
Esrac posted...
Kombucha posted...
I'm not reading all of that, but I read long enough to wtf at this

Jenny's mother admitted she had hoped to take the secret with her to her grave. She had never told her husband about the affair, so the man who raised Jenny was unaware he was not her biological father - something which Jenny now finds "incredibly reassuring".


Wow. I over looked that.

I guess she is her mother's daughter, at least.


There's a way worse story further down:
Betty Jo wanted to be absolutely sure that her dad could not be the man who raised her, so she went one step further. Although he had died three years earlier, she had some of his hair and she sent it to a lab to do a paternity test. The analysis came back saying they shared 0% DNA.

At this point her half-sister said what she was doing was "evil" and in a family group text message Betty Jo was told, "You no longer exist to us." Since then Betty Jo has not spoken to her half siblings or her mother.

"It's sad, because my mom and I had a close relationship when I was growing up," she says. "She used to call me every week and now - never. I cried every day for months, I was depressed, had a sort of breakdown. Christmas is an especially difficult time of year, but my kids and my husband have been really supportive and I'm much better now."


Wow. The whole family turned on her because she exposed their mother's betrayal? I guess disloyal mom just gets a pass on stabbing dad in the back.
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Typhon
12/20/18 4:10:02 PM
#66:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Typhon posted...
Anteaterking posted...
your children

Also, that's not the child's real father.


Troll post, ignoring.


I mean, it's a pretty common belief. You've never heard the whole "Any man can be a sperm donor, not every man can be a father" thing?


The context of this topic and my posts make it incredibly clear that I was talking about the child's biological father when I said "real father". Pretending otherwise is trolling.
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dave_is_slick
12/20/18 4:10:10 PM
#67:


Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:11:47 PM
#68:


Anteaterking posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Why not just tell person B "hey, I'm not getting things I want" so B can try and fix that?


That just sounds like a naive or optimistic question, no offense. People usually get to these situations through communication breakdowns for various reasons in the first place, so "Why not just communicate?" isn't the right question.

Zerocide posted...
Don't trick men into having them believe they are the father, then s*** like this won't happen.


You know you can leave your wife and still love your child, right?


If it's a child she conceived with another man during an affair, it isn't your child. Unless you want to adopt it or otherwise accept responsibility after the fact.
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tennisdude818
12/20/18 4:12:24 PM
#69:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Typhon posted...
Anteaterking posted...
your children

Also, that's not the child's real father.


Troll post, ignoring.


I mean, it's a pretty common belief. You've never heard the whole "Any man can be a sperm donor, not every man can be a father" thing?

tennisdude818 posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Men need a birth control pill. Amazing how the prospect of the male pill makes some feminists angry.

Really? Women have gotten mad at a proposed pill for men? When?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course-women-dont-want-male-pill--end-happy-little-accidents.html


Did you actually bother to read the article? Or even start it. This is the opinion of ONE woman, from almost 9 years ago, which also cites openly in the article:

"Or as Professor Richard Anderson of the University of Edinburgh says: When we carried out surveys of women, they were enormously enthusiastic.The single most common reason was that they wanted to share the responsibility for contraception."

I think you're just making shit up you want to be true so you can hate feminists some more


I said "some feminists", not "all women".
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Anteaterking
12/20/18 4:12:28 PM
#70:


Esrac posted...
If it's a child she conceived with another man during an affair, it isn't your child.


If you adopt a child is it yours?

Edit: (From your edit) You know in a majority of these cases the man who was cheated on is legally the father, right?
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dave_is_slick
12/20/18 4:12:50 PM
#71:


WaterLink posted...
you cant blame anyone for feeling that way.

Yes I fucking can.
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Zerocide
12/20/18 4:13:18 PM
#72:


Anteaterking posted...
littlebro07 posted...
Why not just tell person B "hey, I'm not getting things I want" so B can try and fix that?


That just sounds like a naive or optimistic question, no offense. People usually get to these situations through communication breakdowns for various reasons in the first place, so "Why not just communicate?" isn't the right question.

Zerocide posted...
Don't trick men into having them believe they are the father, then s*** like this won't happen.


You know you can leave your wife and still love your child, right?

He's no longer gonna be my child though and yes.
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The Great Muta 22
12/20/18 4:14:50 PM
#73:


tennisdude818 posted...
I said "some feminists", not "all women"


Right, and you still haven't proven it, all you did was cite one woman's opinion from 9 years ago. Just admit it, you want them to feel that way so you have another justification to hate them and think the worse about them.
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glitteringfairy
12/20/18 4:16:43 PM
#74:


This isn't the same as getting cheated on and raising a kid in lie but my dad adopted my step brother many years ago cause his biological dad was a piece of shit. Anyway, his mom and my dad ended up getting divorced a decade ago but he's still apart of family and comes to all our family gatherings during the holidays and he shares no genetic material with any of us but he's still my brother and my dad is still his father
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dave_is_slick
12/20/18 4:17:21 PM
#75:


Zerocide posted...
He's no longer gonna be my child though

You and any "person" who thinks like you is a piece of shit.
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:18:25 PM
#76:


dave_is_slick posted...
Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.


It's not about the kid doing something to me. It's about my unwillingness to raise and support a child that isn't mine. Any disadvantage the child has is the consequence of the mother's adult. If she wants a man to raise her bastard child, she can look to the man she conceived it with.
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Zerocide
12/20/18 4:18:35 PM
#77:


dave_is_slick posted...
Zerocide posted...
He's no longer gonna be my child though

You and any "person" who thinks like you is a piece of shit.

The same can be said for judgemental pricks like you.
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emblem boy
12/20/18 4:19:58 PM
#78:


Esrac posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.


It's not about the kid doing something to me. It's about my unwillingness to raise and support a child that isn't mine. Any disadvantage the child has is the consequence of the mother's adult. If she wants a man to raise her bastard child, she can look to the man she conceived it with.

Would you ever adopt?
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The Great Muta 22
12/20/18 4:19:58 PM
#79:


Esrac posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.


It's not about the kid doing something to me. It's about my unwillingness to raise and support a child that isn't mine. Any disadvantage the child has is the consequence of the mother's adult. If she wants a man to raise her bastard child, she can look to the man she conceived it with.


And people will be allowed to judge you accordingly. And they aren't wrong to do so
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:19:59 PM
#80:


Anteaterking posted...
Esrac posted...
If it's a child she conceived with another man during an affair, it isn't your child.


If you adopt a child is it yours?

Edit: (From your edit) You know in a majority of these cases the man who was cheated on is legally the father, right?


Legality doesn't always reflect reality, I guess.
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:21:11 PM
#81:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Esrac posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.


It's not about the kid doing something to me. It's about my unwillingness to raise and support a child that isn't mine. Any disadvantage the child has is the consequence of the mother's adult. If she wants a man to raise her bastard child, she can look to the man she conceived it with.


And people will be allowed to judge you accordingly. And they aren't wrong to do so


I'm not worried about the judgement of people on the internet. I'd negatively judge men who let themselves be taken advantage of like that.
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s0nicfan
12/20/18 4:21:58 PM
#82:


Adoption is a choice made with informed consent by both parties. It really has no relation to someone raising another's child without their knowledge because the mother didn't want to take responsibility for her choices.
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The Great Muta 22
12/20/18 4:23:08 PM
#83:


Esrac posted...
I'm not worried about the judgement of people on the internet. I'd negatively judge men who let themselves be taken advantage of like that.


I meant people in real life would likely judge you accordingly. No one is forcing you to raise the child or stay with the mother, just you can't be upset if people think abandoning a child that considers you it's father and cutting them out of your life is a shitty thing to do.
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glitteringfairy
12/20/18 4:24:36 PM
#84:


s0nicfan posted...
Adoption is a choice made with informed consent by both parties. It really has no relation to someone raising another's child without their knowledge because the mother didn't want to take responsibility for her choices.

I guess my point was my dad didn't disown my brother cause of his hate for his mom after she blind sided him. It's not exactly the same thing, I'm just saying the parent shouldn't hate the kid because of something the other parent did
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:26:45 PM
#85:


emblem boy posted...
Esrac posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Esrac posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?


Without a second thought.

Well, maybe that's a little harsh to say it like that, but I absolutely don't think I could stand to be a part of their life anymore.

Why. What did the kid do to you.


It's not about the kid doing something to me. It's about my unwillingness to raise and support a child that isn't mine. Any disadvantage the child has is the consequence of the mother's adult. If she wants a man to raise her bastard child, she can look to the man she conceived it with.

Would you ever adopt?


No, I don't think so.

Hypothetically, if in the future my wife and I divorce, I could see perhaps remarrying another woman who already has kids and being stepfather to them. But that is a weighty decision on it's own that isn't the result of some secret betrayal.
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WaterLink
12/20/18 4:26:55 PM
#86:


glitteringfairy posted...
This isn't the same as getting cheated on and raising a kid in lie but my dad adopted my step brother many years ago cause his biological dad was a piece of shit. Anyway, his mom and my dad ended up getting divorced a decade ago but he's still apart of family and comes to all our family gatherings during the holidays and he shares no genetic material with any of us but he's still my brother and my dad is still his father

Yeah but that was by choice with his full knowledge. There was no manipulation and conniving involved which is what makes these situations so shitty. If the women came out from the start and admitted she had an affair and that the child may not be his, maybe the guy would still stay and try to work through it. Or maybe he'd bail, at least he'd know.

It's not fair to be blindsided like this with something as big as this. It's just as unfair to the guy as it is for the child. The guy didnt ask for this either and he didnt get a choice either. If he decides to leave, it's the mom's fault for letting it get to that point in the first place knowing full well it wasnt his kid.
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Alexanaxela
12/20/18 4:28:46 PM
#87:


"my wife cheated on me and knowingly lied to me about my child being mine every day for years, and now that's all I think about when I see my child"

"suck it up buttercup you're as bad as the wife."
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emblem boy
12/20/18 4:28:47 PM
#88:


s0nicfan posted...
Adoption is a choice made with informed consent by both parties. It really has no relation to someone raising another's child without their knowledge because the mother didn't want to take responsibility for her choices.


Not sure if this was to me asking esrac a out adoption.

I ask because if you're someone who would adopt, then I'd think you've already acknowledged that blood doesn't always matter
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Zerocide
12/20/18 4:31:11 PM
#89:


Alexanaxela posted...
"my wife cheated on me and knowingly lied to me about my child being mine every day for years, and now that's all I think about when I see my child"

"suck it up buttercup you're as bad as the wife."

Pretty much.
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andel
12/20/18 4:34:05 PM
#90:


the worst cases are when the woman claims someone who never even slept with her as the father and the courts refuse to do anything. obviously if someone is not the father they shouldnt be financially responsible
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Anteaterking
12/20/18 4:34:24 PM
#91:


s0nicfan posted...
Adoption is a choice made with informed consent by both parties. It really has no relation to someone raising another's child without their knowledge because the mother didn't want to take responsibility for her choices.


I'm only bringing up adoption to point out that people's notion of "parent" obviously leaves room for non-biological parents.

What does it mean to be someone's father? It's obviously not legality, as these people claim they wouldn't be the father even if their name is on the birth certificate. It's obviously not just blood either, as these same people accept an adopted person as being their child. You can combine these into some wishy washy category of "It's a child that I accept as being my child" but that seems to just be pushing the actual issue off.
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Barber102
12/20/18 4:34:40 PM
#92:


Twin3Turbo posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?

It's a hard reality to come to and personally, if the person decided they wanted to continue being in the kids life I understand. But I could also totally understand looking at that kid everyday and it being hard to get over being lied to for so long. There is no easy answer here.


The kid would have done nothing wrong to deserve that though, so youre pretty much a shitty fucking person to just walk out on a kid who needs you. Would it suck for a father to be placed in that position, absolutely. If your a decent person, you dont need to be a good one just decent. You would stay in that kids life regardless of them not being biologically yours. Its called empathy and compassion.

If a person walks away from a kid over that then the kid suffers just as much. If a person walks away from a kid over that then that person probably never gave a shit about their kid anyway.
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andel
12/20/18 4:41:23 PM
#93:


Barber102 posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Evolician posted...
AzureAnihilator posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think infidelity is bad, but I don't understand the idea that the person you raised for X years is somehow a waste to you because they don't share your DNA is really dumb.

Well if this ain't shitpost of the year I don't know what is. I've seen some fucking garbage here over the years, but damn. This post right here.

So if you raised and loved a kid for ten years only to find out hes not really your kid, youd abandon them and never look back?

It's a hard reality to come to and personally, if the person decided they wanted to continue being in the kids life I understand. But I could also totally understand looking at that kid everyday and it being hard to get over being lied to for so long. There is no easy answer here.


The kid would have done nothing wrong to deserve that though, so youre pretty much a shitty fucking person to just walk out on a kid who needs you. Would it suck for a father to be placed in that position, absolutely. If your a decent person, you dont need to be a good one just decent. You would stay in that kids life regardless of them not being biologically yours. Its called empathy and compassion.

If a person walks away from a kid over that then the kid suffers just as much. If a person walks away from a kid over that then that person probably never gave a shit about their kid anyway.


it seems reasonable for the man in such a hypothetical to still have some relationship with the child while being absolved of any financial responsibility.
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Esrac
12/20/18 4:43:02 PM
#94:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Esrac posted...
I'm not worried about the judgement of people on the internet. I'd negatively judge men who let themselves be taken advantage of like that.


I meant people in real life would likely judge you accordingly. No one is forcing you to raise the child or stay with the mother, just you can't be upset if people think abandoning a child that considers you it's father and cutting them out of your life is a shitty thing to do.


I'm not worried about their judgement either. Especially if they're not in a situation where they have to make that decision after a wife's adultery and continued deceit and exploitation of her trusting husband.
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tennisdude818
12/20/18 4:43:16 PM
#95:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
I said "some feminists", not "all women"


Right, and you still haven't proven it, all you did was cite one woman's opinion from 9 years ago. Just admit it, you want them to feel that way so you have another justification to hate them and think the worse about them.


I did a quick google search and found something. I don't know what your quota is for "some" and I'm not that concerned about it either.
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SunburnCostanza
12/20/18 4:45:48 PM
#96:


Holy fuck this is depressing lol

This "having ur husband raise someone elses kid for 30 years" meme should be a crime punishable by the death penalty
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NeverOffended
12/20/18 4:45:55 PM
#97:


Is a man allowed to take his kid for a DNA test without the kid's mom knowing as long as he is on the birth certificate?
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Barber102
12/20/18 4:47:25 PM
#98:


Esrac posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Esrac posted...
I'm not worried about the judgement of people on the internet. I'd negatively judge men who let themselves be taken advantage of like that.


I meant people in real life would likely judge you accordingly. No one is forcing you to raise the child or stay with the mother, just you can't be upset if people think abandoning a child that considers you it's father and cutting them out of your life is a shitty thing to do.


I'm not worried about their judgement either. Especially if they're not in a situation where they have to make that decision after a wife's adultery and continued deceit and exploitation of her trusting husband.


Ya fuck the kid who was also lied to and has an emotional connection to you right? Your a fucking piece of garbage who no one should reproduce with.
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dave_is_slick
12/20/18 4:47:29 PM
#99:


Zerocide posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Zerocide posted...
He's no longer gonna be my child though

You and any "person" who thinks like you is a piece of shit.

The same can be said for judgemental pricks like you.

Least I know I'm not a piece of shit for abandoning a kid that had no hand in the betrayal. So fuck you, have a shit day.
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andel
12/20/18 4:48:06 PM
#100:


NeverOffended posted...
Is a man allowed to take his kid for a DNA test without the kid's mom knowing as long as he is on the birth certificate?


you would only need like a hair sample
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