Board 8 > Zelda > Mario?

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Nanis23
12/04/18 4:14:21 AM
#1:


Started to humor this idea today
I don't consider this a strong possibility like Tifa > Sephiroth (which turned out to be true) and don't consider it close-to-impossible like Mario > Samus, but it has something like 30% chance of happening IMO

At this point everyone knows that Zelda is a beast this contest
She already beat one Noble Niner and is about to beat the second one. She made Squall look like a joke
Even casual voters realize her potential and might jump on a bandwagon to beat Mario
And after Vivi>Mario 5 years ago...he is not that immune, really
Besides, Link - Zelda would be a cool finals (better than Link SFFing Mario to death)

Sure, Sonic is in the bottom tier of the Noble Nine, and looks like Snake is one too now, so she might fold when facing a high tier Noble Nine, like Tifa did against Samus

But I want to believe
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Tha_Man_DS
12/04/18 4:34:14 AM
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If it's going to be either Zelda vs. Mario or Link vs. Mario, I'm not going to vote. :-)
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FBike1
12/04/18 4:39:15 AM
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Honestly, Tifa/Seph was the perfect circumstances for rSFF to actually happen. I doubt Zelda will fare as well even if she makes it. She can make it a 55-45, which only a privileged few have managed, but she can't break the LAW.
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Nanis23
12/04/18 4:44:07 AM
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FBike1 posted...
Honestly, Tifa/Seph was the perfect circumstances for rSFF to actually happen. I doubt Zelda will fare as well even if she makes it. She can make it a 55-45, which only a privileged few have managed, but she can't break the LAW.

Nobody can't beat the LAW under regular circumstances, this is why it's called the LAW
But I dunno, I feel like she would do better against Link than Mario does
It sounds weird, maybe, but this makes more sense to me
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STElNER
12/04/18 4:46:47 AM
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FUCKING mario
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haloiscoolisbak
12/04/18 5:45:07 AM
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Won't the SFF beatdown by Link be even worse? Unless I'm missing something?
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SuperNiceDog
12/04/18 6:29:07 AM
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I think it'll be close, but no
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FBike1
12/04/18 6:38:22 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Won't the SFF beatdown by Link be even worse? Unless I'm missing something?

A lot of the Link love is TLoZ love - I see a lot of fans of the series voting for Zelda - and Zelda herself is much stronger than she was a decade ago. It could go 55-45... or it could go 68-32. It really depends on how much we can extrapolate from Ganon getting ass-whooped.
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MZero11
12/04/18 8:01:57 AM
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Zelda would do worse against Link than Mario would

Hell she might get SFFed worse than Ganon. She'll have a better perecentage but it might be a bigger underperformance
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SoulFox
12/04/18 8:04:33 AM
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Why is Zelda even winning against Sonic.

I swear Nintendo fans will vote for anything from Nintendo. smh
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Yuri_LowelI
12/04/18 8:05:31 AM
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The hell is wrong with people??

Samus would comfortably beat Zelda. So how does she beat Mario??

She only barely beat Snake and 56 on Sonic isnt top 4 level
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Yuri_LowelI
12/04/18 8:07:46 AM
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SoulFox posted...
Why is Zelda even winning against Sonic.

I swear Nintendo fans will vote for anything from Nintendo. smh


Because sonic sucks

Seriously. With the amount of fucking dross this turd has I don t care how many good games he had in the 90s(only a handful ) hes just an embarrassment now.

No other N9 has the amount of turd game wise than him.
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Nanis23
12/04/18 8:15:37 AM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
SoulFox posted...
Why is Zelda even winning against Sonic.

I swear Nintendo fans will vote for anything from Nintendo. smh


Because sonic sucks

Seriously. With the amount of fucking dross this turd has I don t care how many good games he had in the 90s(only a handful ) hes just an embarrassment now.

No other N9 has the amount of turd game wise than him.

This got me to check Sonic performances against other N9 in the past and

Holy fuck
His ONLY victory was against Crono and it was with 50.77% in 2006
He didn't even beat anyone else in multu ways either
This match against Crono is the only reason he is consider a Noble 9er by the original definition, wow
(He came close to beating Samus once in 2002, but a lose is a lose)
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squexa
12/04/18 8:47:22 AM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
The hell is wrong with people??

Samus would comfortably beat Zelda. So how does she beat Mario??

She only barely beat Snake and 56 on Sonic isnt top 4 level


She'll probably close at 57% on Sonic now and based on extrapolating from the Sonic/Auron/Snake matches, she should have gotten 58%, which means that it's possible she's lost 1% due to having an unrecognizable sprite (alternatively, perhaps Auron's sprite hurt him even more than Snake).

But even with 57% on Sonic, I don't know why it's seen like a joke. Zelda got 57% on a Noble Niner. If we assume Samus/Mario are around the same level (since it's impossible to tell whether Samus/Mario is rSFF or Tifa/Sephiroth is rSFF), then the only top tier character they both faced that we have a good read on and have no reason of declining is Luigi and they both get around 60% on Luigi through Tifa.

In 2010, Sonic got 54% on Kirby and based on 2010 xstats, he should get 53% on Luigi. I really don't think there's any indication that he's gotten significantly weaker to the point that he'll lose to most of the Nintendo near elites. He actually outperformed his 2010 xstats on Auron (Sonic's projected to barely lose to Auron) but I think that's more due to Auron declining than Sonic gaining. In fact, I think Sonic's probably at the same level as he was in 2010, meaning that pre-SFF Zelda should be near or only slightly below Mario or Samus.

Of course, the real reason why Zelda will likely lose or even get blown out by Mario is SFF. Zelda can't score any SFF on Sonic today, unlike Link who SFFed Sonic to death in 2010, which bodes badly for her fight with Mario since it shows that the Nintendo fans don't really care that much about her.
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swirIdude
12/04/18 8:50:35 AM
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Nanis23 posted...
This match against Crono is the only reason he is consider a Noble 9er by the original definition, wow


You don't know what the original definition is.
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Nanis23
12/04/18 8:56:47 AM
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swirIdude posted...
Nanis23 posted...
This match against Crono is the only reason he is consider a Noble 9er by the original definition, wow


You don't know what the original definition is.

Hey moron, look at my registration date
I have been here longer than you, you don't teach me this stuff
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GildedFool
12/04/18 8:57:51 AM
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Nanis23 posted...
swirIdude posted...
Nanis23 posted...
This match against Crono is the only reason he is consider a Noble 9er by the original definition, wow


You don't know what the original definition is.

Hey moron, look at my registration date
I have been here longer than you, you don't teach me this stuff

Obviously. It's clear that no-one teaches you this stuff.
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STElNER
12/04/18 9:04:43 AM
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Nanis23 posted...
Hey moron, look at my registration date
I have been here longer than you, you don't teach me this stuff


no need to throw around the moron here - i do know the original definition is muddy by now, as i distinctly remember them being clearly "defined" when i first came to the board in 2004. so to say that sonic wasn't definitively a member until 2006... well it just shows we're using the wrong definition. i believe it was actually theorized around the top 9 characters who were the same top 9 in both 2002 and 2003 besides magus being a part of a percent above sonic, and with him not being present in 2002 it was a simple enough definition.
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GhoullyX
12/04/18 9:06:54 AM
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Zelda's Smash Bros Ultimate design unquestionably won her a bunch of votes.
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Nanis23
12/04/18 9:09:00 AM
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STElNER posted...
no need to throw around the moron here

It just that lately swirl decided to call me out on every little thing I say and it's getting annoying
I don't have anything against him, so I would be glad if he stopped doing that
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Ilishe
12/04/18 9:20:32 AM
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Link is going to annihilate Zelda if it comes to it. I would venture to say most of her votes are just people who always vote for the Zelda character, and all of those will vote for Link.
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HanOfTheNekos
12/04/18 9:21:36 AM
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Hentai rallies boost Link over Zelda, too.
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ctesjbuvf
12/04/18 10:13:03 AM
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Pretty sure swirl was around here before that account though.
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Nanis23
12/05/18 11:18:03 PM
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Bump for hype
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INTERWEBUSER
12/05/18 11:59:42 PM
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SoulFox posted...
Why is Zelda even winning against Sonic.

I swear Nintendo fans will vote for anything from Nintendo. smh

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Haste_2
12/06/18 12:07:18 AM
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Zelda over Mario, huh?

Mario got 59% on Sephiroth. Zelda got 62% on Aeris. MGS in general has dropped. My calculations suggests Mario wins with almost 57%. Zelda has to rSFF Mario to beat him.
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FinaIFantasy
12/06/18 12:08:49 AM
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Haste_2 posted...
Zelda over Mario, huh?

Mario got 59% on Sephiroth. Zelda got 62% on Aeris. MGS in general has dropped. My calculations suggests Mario wins with almost 57%. Zelda has to rSFF Mario to beat him.


Zelda is going to SFF! Him. She is just stronger.

Youll see quite clearly.
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Waluigi1
12/06/18 12:12:15 AM
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Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?
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GuessMyUserName
12/06/18 12:13:08 AM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hentai rallies boost Link over Zelda, too.

can confirm
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GuessMyUserName
12/06/18 12:15:00 AM
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Waluigi1 posted...
Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?

yes, particularly with Nintendo who also heads a platform fanbase divide

similarly, Snake and Cloud have a fanbase share despite not even sharing the same company

for extra fuckery, Snake also gained in popularity with Brawl, but that would be a shared fanbase to Nintendo characters that would likely move to the Nintendo characters since Snake might only be a Smash character to some portion of the Nintendo fanbase
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FinaIFantasy
12/06/18 12:15:15 AM
#31:


Waluigi1 posted...
Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?


Obviously....

Its called Same Fanbase Factor.

How many people bought OoT that DIDNT buy Sm64, or bought BotW and didnt buy SMO
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KingButz
12/06/18 12:17:21 AM
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Nintendo is a fanbase. You hear about "nintendo fans" all the time and they tend to vote for nintendo characters
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LusterSoldier
12/06/18 12:30:32 AM
#33:


MZero11 posted...
Zelda would do worse against Link than Mario would

Hell she might get SFFed worse than Ganon. She'll have a better perecentage but it might be a bigger underperformance


Zelda won't get SFFed worse than Ganon. The thing with Link/Ganon is that you have a hero/villain match-up, which makes it even harder for voters to make a case for siding with the villain in that match. That won't be the case for Link/Zelda, plus Zelda is a lot stronger than Ganon. 70% is the most I would expect Link to get against Zelda.
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QJD1381
12/06/18 12:34:12 AM
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If we were doing two matches a day for the next round, I could see Zelda having a big advantage, since many voters might just see Link and Zelda in two different battles and go "Team Legend of Zelda! Yeah!", or something.

Mario (and Cloud?) would suffer as a result. But since Mario/Zelda will have it's own day of battle, Mario should clean up. Honestly, I think Samus would beat Zelda just as well, perhaps by an even bigger margin.
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Nanis23
12/07/18 1:09:52 PM
#35:


6 hours hype
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Logience
12/07/18 1:27:54 PM
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FinaIFantasy posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?


Obviously....

Its called Same Fanbase Factor.

How many people bought OoT that DIDNT buy Sm64, or bought BotW and didnt buy SMO

Okay, why is he banned?
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Nanis23
12/07/18 3:17:48 PM
#37:


222 minutes
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Nanis23
12/07/18 3:18:01 PM
#38:


Logience posted...
FinaIFantasy posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?


Obviously....

Its called Same Fanbase Factor.

How many people bought OoT that DIDNT buy Sm64, or bought BotW and didnt buy SMO

Okay, why is he banned?

Do you really need to ask why MWC is banned
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Logience
12/07/18 3:21:54 PM
#39:


Nanis23 posted...
Logience posted...
FinaIFantasy posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
Ok see, now how does SFF make sense here? Are we lumping together characters from the same company under SFF too?


Obviously....

Its called Same Fanbase Factor.

How many people bought OoT that DIDNT buy Sm64, or bought BotW and didnt buy SMO

Okay, why is he banned?

Do you really need to ask why MWC is banned

Who?
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Nanis23
12/07/18 4:59:52 PM
#40:


2 hours!
Even if I am wrong and Mario wins, at least I have him in my bracket, so it's a win-win
But I prefer the underdog victory for shit and giggles
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Waluigi1
12/07/18 7:59:54 PM
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So... zelda huh?
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Safer_777
12/07/18 8:07:38 PM
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I don't know what to say!
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TheCodeisBosco
12/07/18 8:09:29 PM
#43:


This result is straight trash.
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Waluigi1
12/07/18 8:10:26 PM
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I think it's pretty cool. Variety is nice.
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xKANONx
12/07/18 8:29:25 PM
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There goes my bracket....
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GreatDarkWing
12/07/18 9:50:40 PM
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Nanis23
12/07/18 11:57:41 PM
#47:


It's actually happening, cool
It's too close though
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lordjers
12/08/18 12:28:30 AM
#48:


LoZ is still contest king. This result doesn't change anything except for the site nuthugging the series more than ever.
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Lopen
12/08/18 12:43:52 AM
#49:


Waluigi1 posted...
I think it's pretty cool. Variety is nice.


Yeah two Zelda characters duking it out in the finals great variety.
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Nanis23
12/08/18 1:23:04 AM
#50:


Lopen posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
I think it's pretty cool. Variety is nice.


Yeah two Zelda characters duking it out in the finals great variety.

Link wins by a landslide regardless if it's Zelda, Mario or Samus there
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