Current Events > Trevor Noah: The Second Amendment doesn't apply to black men.

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CyricZ
11/28/18 10:36:48 AM
#102:


Maybe I've just been here too long (guess also having been a mod doesn't hurt), but I can't honestly get myself up in a dander over mods not hitting people.

I mean...

Raven025 posted...
LOL crying to the mods because you are getting disproven


This is what happens when you complain about it. Your opposition feels empowered because they believe you had no other recourse in the argument than to remove them, and if it doesn't happen, then it's even funnier to them.

Why give them the satisfaction?
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DezDroppedFreak
11/28/18 10:37:15 AM
#103:


Meanwhile say something about the Cheeto Puff and his slurpers and you get slapped within the hour
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Zodd3224
11/28/18 10:37:24 AM
#104:


Who cares about the mods? I just pretend they arent here. They arent going to magically make people less racist. They will always find new ways to post horrible shit without being modded anyways. The people deflecting and blaming black people arent worth the time of day, just ignore them. All they want is a reaction. Dont give them the satisfaction.
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EliteC
11/28/18 10:37:37 AM
#105:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
EliteC posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


Have you noticed that all people that confront the people who say blatantly racist shit get banned real quick too?


yup. Always told to mark and move on but the mods leave blatantly racist/supremacist rhetoric in the queue until either the thread purges or it gets locked.


Ah yes and then the typical moderation upholding comment when you lose karma for pointing out a racist post: other users violations arent for you to discuss in your own moderation contest. Mark the user and add him to ignore if you cant handle his comments
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 10:39:50 AM
#106:


Raven025 posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


LOL crying to the mods because you are getting disproven


7 karma. Too chickenshit to use your real account?
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 10:41:39 AM
#107:


BarneyBosco posted...
EliteC posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


Have you noticed that all people that confront the people who say blatantly racist shit get banned real quick too?

Maybe your idea of what is blatantly racist is not the same as everyone else (except the echo chamber here). This must really make you mad XD


No, I thinks his idea of blatantly racist is like most other people's, for example, comparing people of a certain race with bloodthirsty beasts is pretty bad, which you just did and then didn't even lose karma for it
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Rebel_Patriot
11/28/18 10:44:43 AM
#108:


BruceWayneJr posted...
It's time to amend the right wing meme:

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a white guy with a gun. Everybody else get the fuck out of there.

Republican softball practice shooter was stopped by two black cops with guns.
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FrisbeeDude
11/28/18 10:45:15 AM
#109:


Coastal_elite posted...
CyricZ posted...
Okay you can stop now. He got modded.


So he doubled down on his bullshit and didn't even lose karma and he came back here AGAIN to spew more bullshit?

Seems somebody knows the mods won't touch him


when you have the racial makeup the moderation staff here does, these type of posters feel free to spew this crap because they know they'll get a slap on the wrist.
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Coastal_elite
11/28/18 10:52:53 AM
#110:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
CyricZ posted...
Okay you can stop now. He got modded.


So he doubled down on his bullshit and didn't even lose karma and he came back here AGAIN to spew more bullshit?

Seems somebody knows the mods won't touch him


when you have the racial makeup the moderation staff here does, these type of posters feel free to spew this crap because they know they'll get a slap on the wrist.


I;m white and I get mad at the racism. Many of us decent folks do. It's more about the ideological makeup of the mod staff here.
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Mr_Biscuit
11/28/18 11:01:31 AM
#111:


EliteC posted...
@OctilIery posted...
EliteC posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
The first thing I was taught in my conceal carry class was that as soon as the threat is down or disarmed, you either holster your weapon or if police are on the scene, you immediately put it down because the cops can mistake you for the bad guy.

Just saying, but maybe this isn't so much a "the guy was black" thing and it was a "the guy was carrying a weapon in a threatening manner in a mass shooter situation."

Of course, the cop who was all gun ho and apparently shot him without issuing any commands whatsoever needs to be prosecuted still.


How come people like the aurora shooter and the Charleston shooter get talked down and maybe they even get a Burger King run instead of getting killed? Do you think they holstered their weapons before the cops arrived?

Different cops in different districts with different training responding to different situations.


So the surviving shooters survived because the cop was having a good day and it was a good district?

Funny how all the surviving shooters were NOT black, where even the good guys with a fun who got killed were black

Look at this, people get shot even when they have their hands up in the air and are lying on the ground :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwHJL5X97Do" data-time="

Lmao I forgot about this one. Thank god that man survived.

Literally why did you shoot me? I dunno.
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Mr_Biscuit
11/28/18 11:04:05 AM
#112:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
BarneyBosco posted...
Why do pitbulls get a bad rap? Are all pits dangerous? Of course not, but they have a stigma. Its not white peoples fault or cops or guns. Its the way things are. Unless the behavior of pitbulls changes nothing else will change, so its a pointless discussion. If you see a pitbull snarling at you, shoot first and wonder about its intentions later.


This guy literally compared black people to bloodthirsty beasts (pitbulls) and is basically saying that killing them in cold blood is justified because of "their behavior"

How is this garbage allowed to go without moderation? Also, as per threats I get when I get moderated (basically "be nice to the racists) I will lose karma for pointing this out, but fuck it, I can't just let stormfaqs normalize this sort of stuff

It's a gaming forum, buddy, stop taking it so seriously.

I for one am stunned you would defend this
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BruceWayneJr
11/28/18 11:06:15 AM
#113:


Rebel_Patriot posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
It's time to amend the right wing meme:

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a white guy with a gun. Everybody else get the fuck out of there.

Republican softball practice shooter was stopped by two black cops with guns.

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Mr_Biscuit
11/28/18 11:09:28 AM
#114:


Did that dude really get a NKL for comparing black people to pitbulls and saying its fair to assume they have bad intentions?

What?

Also, doesnt that rhetoric completely prove Trevor Noahs point?
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EdgeMaster
11/28/18 11:11:24 AM
#115:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


It shouldnt be a surprise.... you can get modded for not breaking the tou so not being modded for breaking the tou isnt out of the realm of possibilities.

Coastal_elite posted...
BarneyBosco posted...
EliteC posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


Have you noticed that all people that confront the people who say blatantly racist shit get banned real quick too?

Maybe your idea of what is blatantly racist is not the same as everyone else (except the echo chamber here). This must really make you mad XD


No, I thinks his idea of blatantly racist is like most other people's, for example, comparing people of a certain race with bloodthirsty beasts is pretty bad, which you just did and then didn't even lose karma for it


I find it amusing how you refer to pit bulls being bloodthirsty beasts in a very matter of fact manner and apply it as a blanket statement. You know what this would be called if it was applied to humans right? Lol.
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EliteC
11/28/18 11:13:04 AM
#116:


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FrisbeeDude
11/28/18 11:57:13 AM
#117:


Mr_Biscuit posted...
Did that dude really get a NKL for comparing black people to pitbulls and saying its fair to assume they have bad intentions?

What?

Also, doesnt that rhetoric completely prove Trevor Noahs point?


Imagine the crying if someone feminist argued than men in general, due to the overwhelming amount of sex crimes they committ, should be viewed as potentially dangerous animals lmao
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CyricZ
11/28/18 12:16:14 PM
#119:


Guess y'all can ignore Post #9 I guess.
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Bluebomber182
11/28/18 12:26:01 PM
#120:


it aint cheery picking this shit keeps happening. the nra didnt say shit over philando castles death
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
11/28/18 12:28:56 PM
#121:


This is a natural evolution of the second amendment.

Let's take this to an extreme.

Everyone has a gun. The second amendment protects such rights.

A bad person with a gun starts to open fire in a crowded area. It causes a panic.

Assume 90% of people flee. The other 10% pull their fire arms and exchange shots with the bad guy.

Now police enter the scene with let's say over a dozen people with fire arms and exchanging fire. How in the fuck is a cop supposed to immediately know which person with a gun is a good samaritan and which is the shooter they are looking for?

They issue an order to someone who has a weapon. That person is amped up with adrenaline and does not hear immediately, or it doesnt register with them what to do. Police then must assume person who is in non compliance with a gun is a threat.

This world is fucking terrifying. I live in Canada and we got a lot of guns, but our laws about pistols and conceal carry and all that are different. You don't hear about active shooters and whatnot. I know it is not necessarily about gun laws, but let's take a look at how we can make the situation easier on police, on everyone.
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bloodydeath0
11/28/18 12:38:58 PM
#122:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Now police enter the scene with let's say over a dozen people with fire arms and exchanging fire. How in the fuck is a cop supposed to immediately know which person with a gun is a good samaritan and which is the shooter they are looking for?

i mean, i assume cops are given a description of the perp and of the situation. if they are trained with a gun and on how to use it safely to protect people, they should be able to adequately arrive at a shooting and make smart decisions on what to do and not just rush in blind and fire at the first person with a gun
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
11/28/18 12:41:07 PM
#123:


That is assuming every single cop is not only especially well trained, but has no personal bias, is experienced in these situations, and doesnt make a mistake.

Ideally nobody ever makes a mistake in their job. As we have seen, especially when it comes to police, mistakes happen and often with deadly consequences.
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EliteC
11/28/18 12:42:27 PM
#124:


CyricZ posted...
Guess y'all can ignore Post #9 I guess.


You forgot to add mods side with racists
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Ammonitida
11/28/18 12:43:19 PM
#125:


Thompson posted...
Crime: being a hero while black.


Crime: being a hero who saved your family while white.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dad-hero-son-bronze-star-recipient-shot-dead/story?id=56961901

And again, no evidence that cops of any race are more likely to shoot black suspects in certain circumstances.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2870189
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OctilIery
11/28/18 12:49:52 PM
#126:


Ammonitida posted...
Thompson posted...
Crime: being a hero while black.


Crime: being a hero who saved your family while white.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dad-hero-son-bronze-star-recipient-shot-dead/story?id=56961901

And again, no evidence that cops of any race are more likely to shoot black suspects in certain circumstances.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2870189

There IS tons of evidence that they're more likely to be ticketed or arrested and get harsher sentences for similar crimes.
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bloodydeath0
11/28/18 12:50:14 PM
#127:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
That is assuming every single cop is not only especially well trained, but has no personal bias, is experienced in these situations, and doesnt make a mistake.

Ideally nobody ever makes a mistake in their job. As we have seen, especially when it comes to police, mistakes happen and often with deadly consequences.

right. and we should be promoting as close to perfect as possible, and hold to the highest standards who we entrust with the duty.
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darkprince45
11/28/18 1:46:14 PM
#129:


This is a case of bad training, bad cop, bad communication not racism. There was a really good Reddit thread I read about this earlier. Some really good numbers as well. It was a study involving officer involved shootings with black people and the figure actually showed that white cops shot black people less than any other race. As well as some other good statistics, it was from yesterday I wish I could find it.

The days of the 80s racist LA white cops isnt a thing. Yeah theres bad eggs but its not the norm. Ive seen one get fired for constantly making age jokes about another cop. Majority of these sensationalized shootings fall under graham v Connor, or a good use of force model. I would bet my life 100 times this cop from lack of communication and training saw the dude holding a gun and immediately shot. In the day of bodycam I really find it hard to believe he just came in there with the intention of shooting a black person lol
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ultimate reaver
11/28/18 1:48:28 PM
#130:


The only time the country can successfully get behind gun control is when republicans scare the south and flyovers into thinking black guys are going to barge into their homes and gun them down with AKs, so, I mean... Yeah? If the usual suspects had anything to say about it.
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DarkTransient
11/28/18 1:50:04 PM
#131:


You could argue that alone, at the time it passed, it wasn't meant for them. With the passing of the 14th (IIRC, cbf double-checking, you should all know which one I mean) amendment, you can no longer make that argument, it pretty clearly applies to any adult US citizen / legal resident.
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HylianFox
11/28/18 1:51:03 PM
#132:


he's not wrong

when the 2nd Amendment was penned it was clearly written by and for white male landowners
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EliteC
11/28/18 1:58:23 PM
#133:


darkprince45 posted...
This is a case of bad training, bad cop, bad communication not racism. There was a really good Reddit thread I read about this earlier. Some really good numbers as well. It was a study involving officer involved shootings with black people and the figure actually showed that white cops shot black people less than any other race. As well as some other good statistics, it was from yesterday I wish I could find it.

The days of the 80s racist LA white cops isnt a thing. Yeah theres bad eggs but its not the norm. Ive seen one get fired for constantly making age jokes about another cop. Majority of these sensationalized shootings fall under graham v Connor, or a good use of force model. I would bet my life 100 times this cop from lack of communication and training saw the dude holding a gun and immediately shot. In the day of bodycam I really find it hard to believe he just came in there with the intention of shooting a black person lol


Dude... we know your posting history. Now I get moderated for bringing up what you did, but that was pretty violent :/
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Bloodychess
11/28/18 2:06:59 PM
#134:


ultimate reaver posted...
The only time the country can successfully get behind gun control is when republicans scare the south and flyovers into thinking black guys are going to barge into their homes and gun them down with AKs.


How jaded are you lol
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Bishop9800
11/28/18 2:07:37 PM
#135:


So people on here can say racist shit and the mods won't do anything about it?

Must be "Racist Wednesday" on CL
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SideshowBob311
11/28/18 2:10:48 PM
#136:


Also Trevor Noah: "Pay attention to me! Please! Look at the outrageous shit I'm saying! Talk about me!"
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C_Pain
11/28/18 2:11:21 PM
#137:


Imagine being a Brit and trying to commentate on America. Go back to talking about Brexit.
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Jagermeister513
11/28/18 2:11:50 PM
#138:


Yeah, because when I want to hear an opinion on American politics I'll listen to the racist as fuck South African. Trevor Noah is trash.
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Ammonitida
11/28/18 2:15:45 PM
#139:


darkprince45 posted...
This is a case of bad training, bad cop, bad communication not racism. There was a really good Reddit thread I read about this earlier. Some really good numbers as well. It was a study involving officer involved shootings with black people and the figure actually showed that white cops shot black people less than any other race. As well as some other good statistics, it was from yesterday I wish I could find it.

The days of the 80s racist LA white cops isnt a thing. Yeah theres bad eggs but its not the norm. Ive seen one get fired for constantly making age jokes about another cop. Majority of these sensationalized shootings fall under graham v Connor, or a good use of force model. I would bet my life 100 times this cop from lack of communication and training saw the dude holding a gun and immediately shot. In the day of bodycam I really find it hard to believe he just came in there with the intention of shooting a black person lol


I posted a similar study that used the Washington Post database (the best database there currently is). It found that overall white officers were no more likely to shoot dead black suspects than white suspects. It also found that black cops were just as likely as white cops to shoot dead unarmed black suspects (but some caution should be exercised here, as the sample size is very small). You wouldn't know any of that from the left wing media's fixation on the race of the cop involved in this case, or other cases like it.

It also cited a prior study that found that ER treatment differed dramatically by race, resulting in significantly higher rates of mortality among black trauma patients -- a variable not controlled for in any of the studies on officer-involved shootings I have read. Some of the racial disparity in police shooting deaths may simply be due to the quality of hospital treatment.
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 2:16:18 PM
#140:


I didn't realize Cyric took up shitposting.

Kinda sad.
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CyricZ
11/28/18 2:16:50 PM
#141:


The uh... quality of the troll posts is starting to drop dramatically.
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andel
11/28/18 2:17:20 PM
#142:


obviously this particular cop should be fired and charged for murdering a guy that legally exercised his rights while stopping an active shooter.

can we not entertain elite c/coastal elite (they are the same guy and both are rod)

also that barney guy is openly posting racist shit to troll...he is probably a sage alt
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EliteC
11/28/18 2:17:22 PM
#143:


Add to the list: good Samaritan while black:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-black-man-helped-his-drunk-neighbor-get-home--and-got-arrested/ar-BBQakHW?li=BBnbfcL

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scar the 1
11/28/18 2:25:25 PM
#144:


SideshowBob311 posted...
Also Trevor Noah: "Pay attention to me! Please! Look at the outrageous shit I'm saying! Talk about me!"

Quite amazing that people will try to shame a show host for wanting attention.
His job is reliant on people giving him attention. That's literally what he's paid to do. Get people's attention.
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 2:33:10 PM
#145:


scar the 1 posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
Also Trevor Noah: "Pay attention to me! Please! Look at the outrageous shit I'm saying! Talk about me!"

Quite amazing that people will try to shame a show host for wanting attention.
His job is reliant on people giving him attention. That's literally what he's paid to do. Get people's attention.


And educate them on pressing issues, not race bait. Here's a video that challenges the view of "Black people will always get shot by cops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnV6mYu7TI" data-time="


The exception is not the rule. We have a training problem, which in a county of more than 300 million people, with anywhere between 600 to 800 thousand of them being sworn in officers, is of course going to produce news articles that can provide confirmation bias towards almost any view someone has.
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Blue_Inigo
11/28/18 2:34:28 PM
#146:


It's crazy how black people have to bend over backwards to not get shot. We might as well carry handcuffs on ourselves so that those poor pigs dont get scared
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 2:37:00 PM
#147:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's crazy how black people have to bend over backwards to not get shot. We might as well carry handcuffs on ourselves so that those poor pigs dont get scared

CyricZ posted...
The uh... quality of the troll posts is starting to drop dramatically.

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scar the 1
11/28/18 2:39:02 PM
#148:


Malcrasternus posted...
And educate them on pressing issues, not race bait. Here's a video that challenges the view of "Black people will always get shot by cops"

No, his job is to provide entertainment.
Not even sure it's worth bothering responding to the rest of your post as you intentionally misunderstand his talk.
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Ammonitida
11/28/18 2:41:11 PM
#149:


Malcrasternus posted...
scar the 1 posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
Also Trevor Noah: "Pay attention to me! Please! Look at the outrageous shit I'm saying! Talk about me!"

Quite amazing that people will try to shame a show host for wanting attention.
His job is reliant on people giving him attention. That's literally what he's paid to do. Get people's attention.


And educate them on pressing issues, not race bait. Here's a video that challenges the view of "Black people will always get shot by cops"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnV6mYu7TI" data-time="


The exception is not the rule. We have a training problem, which in a county of more than 300 million people, with anywhere between 600 to 800 thousand of them being sworn in officers, is of course going to produce news articles that can provide confirmation bias towards almost any view someone has.


https://www.crimeonline.com/2018/08/01/heroic-father-chases-down-naked-alleged-child-molester-at-park-holds-him-at-gunpoint-report/
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CyricZ
11/28/18 2:43:29 PM
#150:


Blue_Inigo posted...
It's crazy how black people have to bend over backwards

Shoot him! He's bending over backwards!
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Malcrasternus
11/28/18 2:44:18 PM
#151:


scar the 1 posted...
Malcrasternus posted...
And educate them on pressing issues, not race bait. Here's a video that challenges the view of "Black people will always get shot by cops"

No, his job is to provide entertainment.
Not even sure it's worth bothering responding to the rest of your post as you intentionally misunderstand his talk.


When you can't challenge the point, deflect and discredit as much as you can, I see.
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