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scar the 1
11/28/18 2:51:47 PM
#152:


Malcrasternus posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Malcrasternus posted...
And educate them on pressing issues, not race bait. Here's a video that challenges the view of "Black people will always get shot by cops"

No, his job is to provide entertainment.
Not even sure it's worth bothering responding to the rest of your post as you intentionally misunderstand his talk.


When you can't challenge the point, deflect and discredit as much as you can, I see.

I'm not going to challenge a strawman, and this attitude isn't helping
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brestugo
11/28/18 2:53:12 PM
#153:


The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
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Crazyman93
11/28/18 3:02:42 PM
#154:


Raven025 posted...
I like how Trevor Noah pretends to be black when he is mixed.

But libs lap it up anyway XD

Right, going by the history of race relations in America, being mixed is basically the same as being black.

Also, why is Trevor Noah on a comedy program? He's not funny. He's also a shitty pundit. So he provides nothing that I can't get from a REAL pundit.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 3:19:50 PM
#155:


brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.
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brestugo
11/28/18 3:25:51 PM
#156:


Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Exactly.

Or try this scenario - set up a Black gun rights organization and see how fast the legislation flies.
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AlephZero
11/28/18 3:34:36 PM
#157:


brestugo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Exactly.

Or try this scenario - set up a Black gun rights organization and see how fast the legislation flies.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gk85a/huey-does-dallas-0000552-v22n1
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brestugo
11/28/18 3:43:43 PM
#158:


AlephZero posted...
brestugo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Exactly.

Or try this scenario - set up a Black gun rights organization and see how fast the legislation flies.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gk85a/huey-does-dallas-0000552-v22n1

Interesting.
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CyricZ
11/28/18 4:01:08 PM
#159:


brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

It bears mentioning that this was the pre-Infinite Crisis NRA, back when they were actually pretty much all about gun safety and marksmanship. Then Harlon Carter took it over in '77 and they became the NRA we all know and love, obsessed with peddling guns as the answer.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
11/28/18 4:24:17 PM
#160:


Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jnqPUOx9rA" data-time="


Educate yourself. Black people were targeted when organizations like the panthers started organizing and arming themselves.

Okay. Then why, by your logic, haven't white people been targeted when organizations like the KKK started organizing and arming themselves?
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CyricZ
11/28/18 4:28:39 PM
#161:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jnqPUOx9rA" data-time="


Educate yourself. Black people were targeted when organizations like the panthers started organizing and arming themselves.

Okay. Then why, by your logic, haven't white people been targeted when organizations like the KKK started organizing and arming themselves?

I think the answer to that is "Exactly".
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 5:02:51 PM
#162:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jnqPUOx9rA" data-time="


Educate yourself. Black people were targeted when organizations like the panthers started organizing and arming themselves.

Okay. Then why, by your logic, haven't white people been targeted when organizations like the KKK started organizing and arming themselves?


Because the local, state and by some extension the Federal government approved of the klan's terror campaign against blacks in the south. Hell some judges and law enforcement were Klan members. It was another form of social control.
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brestugo
11/28/18 5:21:57 PM
#163:


DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
Makeveli_lives posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jnqPUOx9rA" data-time="


Educate yourself. Black people were targeted when organizations like the panthers started organizing and arming themselves.

Okay. Then why, by your logic, haven't white people been targeted when organizations like the KKK started organizing and arming themselves?

You don't even have to be cynical to know the answer.
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Kineth
11/28/18 5:25:58 PM
#164:


So that piece of shit can talk repeated shit about black people and merely gets his posts deleted. The guy I have tagged as a Nazi Symphatizer... lovely. I bet I'll get warned for this one post though.
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Bishop9800
11/28/18 5:33:53 PM
#165:


Taharqa_ posted...
. Hell some judges and law enforcement were Klan members. It was another form of social control.


What you mean "were"? Hell, there still some that are Klan members today.
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Akagami_Shanks
11/28/18 5:48:27 PM
#166:


just like i said earlier, i knew were this was going. Did not disappoint.
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CyricZ
11/28/18 6:16:33 PM
#167:


Yes, yes. *tosses you a cookie*
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Ving_Rhames
11/28/18 6:17:34 PM
#168:


eston posted...
Fat rednecks walking down the street with rifles on their chest in a ready position - A-OK

Black man holding a gun because he literally just stopped a shooting - HE'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!


Pretty much lol
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Ammonitida
11/28/18 6:57:52 PM
#170:


brestugo posted...
AlephZero posted...
brestugo posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Exactly.

Or try this scenario - set up a Black gun rights organization and see how fast the legislation flies.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5gk85a/huey-does-dallas-0000552-v22n1

Interesting.


Black people walking around Dallas with assault rifles, none shot dead!!!!1111 White grandfather defends his family against home invaders, he's shot dead by the pigs!!!!11
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CADE FOSTER
11/28/18 7:03:34 PM
#171:


That guy in Alabama mall was a good guy with a gun and got gunned down by the police because he was black with a gun
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BarneyBosco
11/28/18 9:06:02 PM
#172:


Coastal_elite posted...
BarneyBosco posted...
EliteC posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
Holy fuck no karma loss for posting blatantly racist shit. What the fuck is wrong with the mods


Have you noticed that all people that confront the people who say blatantly racist shit get banned real quick too?

Maybe your idea of what is blatantly racist is not the same as everyone else (except the echo chamber here). This must really make you mad XD


No, I thinks his idea of blatantly racist is like most other people's, for example, comparing people of a certain race with bloodthirsty beasts is pretty bad, which you just did and then didn't even lose karma for it

I didn't though, I don't think, and if I did I didn't mean to. I was comparing a pit to the fact that people will treat you how they perceive you. A person in a suit and tie will be regarded differently than some thug looking person, no matter the race (for the most part). Its human nature, likely instinctual. I'm guilty of it with dumb stuff, I seen a chick with a tattoo on her ankle and assume shes a ho. Everyone does this and you can guarantee if they deny it and are not old as fuck they are almost certainly a liar and very likely an inherently shitty person.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/28/18 9:06:53 PM
#173:


Doom_Art posted...
He isn't wrong

He is wrong.
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BarneyBosco
11/28/18 9:31:15 PM
#174:


Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Why? Do you think they're going to commit more crimes to warranty new legislation? Or are you simply insinuating that the governing body, mostly whites, are racist? Either way since you have no evidence of neither, the idea itself is racist.
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Bishop9800
11/28/18 9:51:00 PM
#175:


BarneyBosco posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Why? Do you think they're going to commit more crimes to warranty new legislation? Or are you simply insinuating that the governing body, mostly whites, are racist? Either way since you have no evidence of neither, the idea itself is racist.


Seeing how the "governing body" did it before, it a good bet they will do it again.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 9:56:32 PM
#176:


BarneyBosco posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Why? Do you think they're going to commit more crimes to warranty new legislation? Or are you simply insinuating that the governing body, mostly whites, are racist? Either way since you have no evidence of neither, the idea itself is racist.


We know what will happen because that is exactly what happened in the past as others have pointed out. Read a book sometimes.
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AlephZero
11/28/18 9:57:29 PM
#177:


it happened in the 60s so that means it would happen exactly the same way today
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PonyLivesMatter
11/28/18 9:59:04 PM
#178:


Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples
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Kineth
11/28/18 10:28:16 PM
#179:


BarneyBosco posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.

Why? Do you think they're going to commit more crimes to warranty new legislation? Or are you simply insinuating that the governing body, mostly whites, are racist? Either way since you have no evidence of neither, the idea itself is racist.


Oh, the guy who posted racist drivel earlier in this topic is gonna start telling black people what is and isn't racist against black people.
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SixStringHero
11/28/18 11:04:49 PM
#180:


brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


The NRA had a coup in the 70's and replaced much of the leadership.

They have been staunchly pro 2nd Amendment for all Americans and have been anti gun control since.
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SixStringHero
11/28/18 11:08:54 PM
#181:


Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/623356/gun-ownership-in-the-us-by-ethnicity/

A lot of black people own guns, and no one, not even the NRA, which many people like to demonize is pushing for legislation to strip black people of their right to self preservation.

Perhaps you should stop with the race baiting bullshit.
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Taharqa_
11/28/18 11:15:09 PM
#182:


SixStringHero posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/623356/gun-ownership-in-the-us-by-ethnicity/

A lot of black people own guns, and no one, not even the NRA people like to demonize is pushing for legislation to strip them of their rights to self preservation.

Perhaps you should stop with the race baiting bullshit.


Where was the NRA when Philando Castille got killed? Oh that's right, they were quiet as a church mouse pissing on cotton.
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EliteC
11/28/18 11:59:19 PM
#183:


SixStringHero posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


The NRA had a coup in the 70's and replaced much of the leadership.

They have been staunchly pro 2nd Amendment for all Americans and have been anti gun control since.


*sigh* here we go

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EliteC
11/28/18 11:59:51 PM
#184:


Taharqa_ posted...
SixStringHero posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/623356/gun-ownership-in-the-us-by-ethnicity/

A lot of black people own guns, and no one, not even the NRA people like to demonize is pushing for legislation to strip them of their rights to self preservation.

Perhaps you should stop with the race baiting bullshit.


Where was the NRA when Philando Castille got killed? Oh that's right, they were quiet as a church mouse pissing on cotton.


And where were they now that the good guy with a gun got killed because he was black?
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:24:38 AM
#185:


SixStringHero posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
brestugo posted...
The NRA supported gun control when Blacks started arming themselves in the '60s in CA. Governor Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford act restricting gun rights,

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act


Arm every black male over the age of 18 with a gun, watch how fast gun control legislation will pop up.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/623356/gun-ownership-in-the-us-by-ethnicity/

A lot of black people own guns, and no one, not even the NRA, which many people like to demonize is pushing for legislation to strip black people of their right to self preservation.

Perhaps you should stop with the race baiting bullshit.


Perhaps you should stop handwaving facts that counter your narrative that there's no inequality. He never said anything about black people not owning guns. He posted documented history of such things happening. You don't understand how plausible deniability works if you think that legislation has to specifically say that it's targeting a group for it to actually be targeting a group. Why do you think some people are so vehemently against welfare and the social safety net? What do you think they consider the face of the poor or less fortunate to be? Point is, people can be two-faced with their reasoning. Sometimes, people are simply ignorant about the subject and their judgment, but I'm not speaking about them. It's generally that they're cognizant of what they're aims are and know what language they need to use in order to not have their true feelings/rationale exposed.

And @Taharqa_ works in criminal justice field, iirc. He's much more aware of the numbers and data than you are. By far.
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A_Good_Boy
11/29/18 4:32:26 AM
#186:


PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:35:30 AM
#187:


A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.
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Ammonitida
11/29/18 5:57:32 AM
#188:


Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.


Because it would be false.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/us/los-angeles-synagogue-hate-crime-charge/index.html
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A_Good_Boy
11/29/18 6:17:25 AM
#189:


Ammonitida posted...
Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.


Because it would be false.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/us/los-angeles-synagogue-hate-crime-charge/index.html

Since when was data the plural of an anecdote?
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Kineth
11/29/18 6:46:58 AM
#190:


Ammonitida posted...
Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.


Because it would be false.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/us/los-angeles-synagogue-hate-crime-charge/index.html


Oh you're right, one thing happening yesterday means that all the stuff before it has never happened. Seriously? This is such a pitiful attempt at a counterargument that I'm gonna just refer you back to my sig.
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Ammonitida
11/29/18 7:01:26 AM
#191:


Kineth posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.


Because it would be false.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/us/los-angeles-synagogue-hate-crime-charge/index.html


Oh you're right, one thing happening yesterday means that all the stuff before it has never happened. Seriously? This is such a pitiful attempt at a counterargument that I'm gonna just refer you back to my sig.


Your sig is a mischaracterization.

means that all the stuff before it has never happened.


You mean like 9/11, Pulse nightclub? That never happened? There's no one group of people committing "all of the terrorism" in America. Indeed, around 40% of fatalities attributed to acts of terrorism in America since 9/11 have been perpetrated by people not traditionally seen as "white".
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Kineth
11/29/18 7:47:09 AM
#192:


Ammonitida posted...
Kineth posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Kineth posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples

Like whose committing all of the terrorism in America?


If I said it, I'd get modded. Or I'd get a bunch of grief from people who only like statistics when they're about those they other.


Because it would be false.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/28/us/los-angeles-synagogue-hate-crime-charge/index.html


Oh you're right, one thing happening yesterday means that all the stuff before it has never happened. Seriously? This is such a pitiful attempt at a counterargument that I'm gonna just refer you back to my sig.


Your sig is a mischaracterization.


It literally isn't.

You mean like 9/11, Pulse nightclub? That never happened? There's no one group of people committing "all of the terrorism" in America. Indeed, around 40% of fatalities attributed to acts of terrorism in America since 9/11 have been perpetrated by people not traditionally seen as "white".


It's really odd that you changed the subject and then changed it back. It's also noteworthy that your numbers would be much different if you didn't include 9/11 since that was single biggest terrorist attack, aka an outlier.

I suppose since you're just intent on changing the subject to "those durn mooslems", you're really afraid to accept the data.
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A_Good_Boy
11/29/18 8:04:26 AM
#193:


Pretty weird how that crowd that just loves facts for facts sake suddenly starts getting real butthurt when those facts start saying not so nice stuff about white people.
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SexyPonyMagic69
11/29/18 8:20:14 AM
#194:


PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples


This.

Black Crime Matters
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Ammonitida
11/29/18 8:22:05 AM
#195:


It literally isn't.


It is.

It's really odd that you changed the subject and then changed it back.


I may have misread the thread if your comment, "If I said it, I'd get modded" was in reference to what PonyLivesMatter wrote. I assumed you meant, "if I said white people commit all terror attacks, I'd be modded".

It's also noteworthy that your numbers would be much different if you didn't include 9/11 since that was single biggest terrorist attack, aka an outlier.


Those numbers don't include 9/11. I said since 9/11. It's 40% of fatalities and 25% of attacks.

I suppose since you're just intent on changing the subject to "those durn mooslems", you're really afraid to accept the data.


The study I based this on separated all terror attracts perpetrated by Muslims since 9/11 from those committed by domestic right-wing extremists. I'm not singling out "those durn mooslems" because of any bias as you imply. That's just how the study grouped them, and 9/11/Pulse are just a very infamous examples of terrorism not carried out by white people.
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EliteC
11/29/18 8:23:04 AM
#196:


SexyPonyMagic69 posted...
PonyLivesMatter posted...
Love how this types seem to forget statistics when it comes to certain peoples


This.

Black Crime Matters


What about CP stats and bronies? ;)
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Kineth
11/29/18 8:41:22 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
It literally isn't.


It is.


But it isn't. I'll bite though. Why do you think that?

I may have misread the thread if your comment, "If I said it, I'd get modded" was in reference to what PonyLivesMatter wrote. I assumed you meant, "if I said white people commit all terror attacks, I'd be modded".


You're sorta right. I would have said right-wing extremists. The right wing being predominantly white is a separate thing.

Those numbers don't include 9/11. I said since 9/11. It's 40% of fatalities and 25% of attacks.


Ok, then I did misread that.

The study I based this on separated all terror attracts perpetrated by Muslims since 9/11 from those committed by domestic right-wing extremists. I'm not singling out "those durn mooslems" because of any bias as you imply. That's just how the study grouped them, and 9/11/Pulse are just a very infamous examples of terrorism.


Ok, fair enough. So I definitely jumped the gun with you this time. Your first counterpoint was very weak though.
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