Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1310

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Kotetsu534
11/27/18 4:52:34 PM
#301:


So this is how the Noble Nine dies. Excruciatingly slowly, to a rat.
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Not_Wylvane
11/27/18 4:52:56 PM
#302:


I'm really interested to see Link/Pikachu myself, assuming the yellow mouse can gain and hold the lead in the next two hours.
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Korayashi
11/27/18 4:53:11 PM
#303:


Is it bad if I have Mega Man > Pikachu in Winners and Pikachu > Mega Man in Losers? >_>
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INTERWEBUSER
11/27/18 4:53:13 PM
#304:


Imagine being over 12 and liking pikachu, a weak Pokmon in the games and an annoying ass character in the anime PIKA PIIII PIKA PIKA PIKA
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charmander6000
11/27/18 4:54:00 PM
#305:


LordOfDabu posted...
My (very hazy and probably wrong) memory had CJayC's topic listing Mario and Link as first and second respectively on odds while the vibe from board posters was that Sephiroth and Snake were the favorites. There were some who thought Mario would lose the first round due to people not taking it seriously ("joke voting") and there was widespread debate on what the actual wording of the poll would be.

This is probably all false but it's what I remember.


The odds are listed on gamefaqscontests.com in the 2k2 x-stats section

Here are the odds for the top 10 characters

1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
9. Sonic - 45:1
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Not_Wylvane
11/27/18 4:54:02 PM
#306:


Imagine being this upset over a video game character popularity poll in your thirties.
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KamikazePotato
11/27/18 4:54:38 PM
#307:


Breaking news: fans of mascot character with little personality deride other fans of mascot character with little personality.
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KamikazePotato
11/27/18 4:55:31 PM
#308:


Korayashi posted...
Is it bad if I have Mega Man > Pikachu in Winners and Pikachu > Mega Man in Losers? >_>

This might be just what happens if Mega Man manages to hold on. Or Pika wins and MM wins in losers. Or MM/Pika just win both times.

Who knows.
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Not_Wylvane
11/27/18 4:55:33 PM
#309:


KamikazePotato posted...
Breaking news: fans of mascot character with little personality deride other fans of mascot character with little personality.

But Ganondorf has plenty of personality!
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FinaIFantasy
11/27/18 4:55:48 PM
#310:


INTERWEBUSER posted...
Imagine being over 12 and liking pikachu, a weak Pokmon in the games and an annoying ass character in the anime PIKA PIIII PIKA PIKA PIKA


Hes the overall best Smash character ever (will be interesting to see how Fox and Pikachu stack up in Ultimate) so Im sure that is wheee a ton of his popularity comes from
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Nelson_Mandela
11/27/18 4:56:11 PM
#311:


charmander6000 posted...
LordOfDabu posted...
My (very hazy and probably wrong) memory had CJayC's topic listing Mario and Link as first and second respectively on odds while the vibe from board posters was that Sephiroth and Snake were the favorites. There were some who thought Mario would lose the first round due to people not taking it seriously ("joke voting") and there was widespread debate on what the actual wording of the poll would be.

This is probably all false but it's what I remember.


The odds are listed on gamefaqscontests.com in the 2k2 x-stats section

Here are the odds for the top 10 characters

1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
10. Sonic - 45:1


Pretty incredible that the NN was almost predicted in 2002.

Dante the disappointing outcast!
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KamikazePotato
11/27/18 4:56:25 PM
#312:


Not_Wylvane posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Breaking news: fans of mascot character with little personality deride other fans of mascot character with little personality.

But Ganondorf has plenty of personality!

ShadowyPowerfulAstarte-small
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Not_Wylvane
11/27/18 4:57:29 PM
#313:


Mega Man ain't giving up yet!
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STElNER
11/27/18 4:57:41 PM
#314:


charmander6000 posted...
1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
9. Sonic - 45:1


boy did dante ever shit the bed
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NowItsAngeTime
11/27/18 4:57:47 PM
#315:


KamikazePotato posted...
Breaking news: fans of mascot character with little personality deride other fans of mascot character with little personality.


Showing regret of not having to fight someone he doesn't consider enemies vs someone who in its anime adaptation who starts shunning its trainer and becoming BFFs are good enough characterization for me
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Mewtwo59
11/27/18 4:58:32 PM
#316:


KamikazePotato posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Breaking news: fans of mascot character with little personality deride other fans of mascot character with little personality.

But Ganondorf has plenty of personality!

ShadowyPowerfulAstarte-small


I'm disappointed this isn't Ganondorf's laugh from Wind Waker.
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snake_5036
11/27/18 4:58:54 PM
#317:


charmander6000 posted...
7. Dante - 36:1

I want to travel to this alternative dimension where Dante is part of the NN instead of Sonic :(
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Korayashi
11/27/18 4:59:27 PM
#318:


KamikazePotato posted...
Korayashi posted...
Is it bad if I have Mega Man > Pikachu in Winners and Pikachu > Mega Man in Losers? >_>

This might be just what happens if Mega Man manages to hold on. Or Pika wins and MM wins in losers. Or MM/Pika just win both times.

Who knows.

I can safely say it will be one of those 3 things happening.
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INTERWEBUSER
11/27/18 5:00:38 PM
#319:


FinaIFantasy posted...
INTERWEBUSER posted...
Imagine being over 12 and liking pikachu, a weak Pokmon in the games and an annoying ass character in the anime PIKA PIIII PIKA PIKA PIKA


Hes the overall best Smash character ever (will be interesting to see how Fox and Pikachu stack up in Ultimate) so Im sure that is wheee a ton of his popularity comes from

I thought that was fox (from no items, Fox only, final destination ) but then again I havent kept up with this rehash series.
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charmander6000
11/27/18 5:01:13 PM
#320:


STElNER posted...
charmander6000 posted...
1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
9. Sonic - 45:1


boy did dante ever shit the bed


I remember Crono/Dante being the most hyped match of the second round, especially since the winner was surely going to defeat Lara Croft.
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Averia
11/27/18 5:01:26 PM
#321:


Single digit barrier holding strong
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LordOfDabu
11/27/18 5:01:31 PM
#322:


charmander6000 posted...
LordOfDabu posted...
My (very hazy and probably wrong) memory had CJayC's topic listing Mario and Link as first and second respectively on odds while the vibe from board posters was that Sephiroth and Snake were the favorites. There were some who thought Mario would lose the first round due to people not taking it seriously ("joke voting") and there was widespread debate on what the actual wording of the poll would be.

This is probably all false but it's what I remember.


The odds are listed on gamefaqscontests.com in the 2k2 x-stats section

Here are the odds for the top 10 characters

1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
9. Sonic - 45:1


I should have looked. :) Thanks!
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PoIl6177
11/27/18 5:02:34 PM
#323:


INTERWEBUSER posted...
FinaIFantasy posted...
INTERWEBUSER posted...
Imagine being over 12 and liking pikachu, a weak Pokmon in the games and an annoying ass character in the anime PIKA PIIII PIKA PIKA PIKA


Hes the overall best Smash character ever (will be interesting to see how Fox and Pikachu stack up in Ultimate) so Im sure that is wheee a ton of his popularity comes from

I thought that was fox (from no items, Fox only, final destination ) but then again I havent kept up with this rehash series.

Marth is the best, comfortably.
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Kotetsu534
11/27/18 5:02:57 PM
#324:


So two hours to go, and Mega Man has a tiny lead of 9 votes as the rat plays with its food.
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tennisboy213
11/27/18 5:04:26 PM
#325:


Pikachu by the hour:
time | percent | gain/loss | lead/deficit
20:00 | 49.16% | -58 | -58
21:00 | 48.83% | -59 | -117
22:00 | 48.58% | -57 | -174
23:00 | 48.93% | -36 | -210
00:00 | 49.74% | -8 | -218
01:00 | 52.60% | +77 | -141
02:00 | 50.47% | +15 | -126
03:00 | 56.42% | +120 | -6
04:00 | 52.16% | +35 | +29
05:00 | 50.07% | +1 | +30
06:00 | 51.98% | +28 | +58
07:00 | 52.99% | +45 | +103
08:00 | 47.44% | -47 | +56
09:00 | 47.53% | -47 | +9
10:00 | 48.66% | -29 | -20
11:00 | 48.28% | -37 | -57
12:00 | 48.06% | -42 | -99
13:00 | 47.76% | -40 | -139
14:00 | 49.75% | -4 | -143
15:00 | 52.57% | +40 | -103
16:00 | 54.36% | +76 | -27
17:00 | 51.06% | +18 | -9

Based on the last hour, Pikachu wins by 27 votes.
Based on the last 30 minutes, Pikachu wins by 55 votes.
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charmander6000
11/27/18 5:05:00 PM
#326:


snake_5036 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
7. Dante - 36:1

I want to travel to this alternative dimension where Dante is part of the NN instead of Sonic :(


The Noble Nine was created in 2003. Sonic was almost not even part of it with people only having eight or Magus instead of Sonic (or the NN+Magus). Sonic reaching the quarterfinals and being part of the 2002 contest was ultimately the deciding factor.
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snake_5036
11/27/18 5:05:35 PM
#327:


"Best overall character" probably means across the whole series. Pikachu was the best in 64, still top tier in Melee, Brawl and Smash 4, and looks to be the best again in Ultimate (so far). Fox, according to top players who tried him in Ultimate, feels much worse than any other Smash game.
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NowItsAngeTime
11/27/18 5:06:57 PM
#328:


snake_5036 posted...
"Best overall character" probably means across the whole series. Pikachu was the best in 64, still top tier in Melee, Brawl and Smash 4, and looks to be the best again in Ultimate (so far). Fox, according to top players who tried him in Ultimate, feels much worse than any other Smash game.


PIkachu is def not top tier in Melee now. Fox, Marth, PEach, Falcon, Jiggly, Sheik, Falco are all above him. Viable sure but not top tier

Otherwise he's the overall best across the series yeah
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MoogleKupo141
11/27/18 5:08:21 PM
#329:


2 votez
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/27/18 5:08:28 PM
#330:


ShatteredElysium posted...
For reference here's the top 10 of that list

1. Shadow of the Colossus > Metal Gear Solid 2 2010, lead maxed at 188*
2. Team Fortress 2 > Fable 2010, lead maxed at 210*
3. DKC2 > Xenoblade 2015, lead maxed at 290
4. Ocelot > Dedede 2018, lead maxed at 328
5. Persona 4 > Dead Rising 2010, lead maxed at 347*
6. Garrus Vakarian > Ramza Beoulve 2018, lead maxed at 418
7. Frog > Liquid Snake 2004, lead maxed at 460
8. Tifa > Mega Man X 2018, lead maxed at 469
9. Ken > Albert Wesker 2010, lead maxed at 471*
10. Metal Gear Solid 3 > Shadow of the Colossus 2010, lead maxed at 515*

If you remove the 1 vs 1 stipulation then this match also has it beat

Vivi > Mario 2013, lead maxed at 204*


Then that also means that this would be a new record for 24-hour 1v1s. The DKC2-Xenoblade match holds that record right now; the top two were both 12-hour matches. Actually, the early rounds of 2013 were 12-hour matches too, weren't they? So this would be the overall record for 24-hour matches.
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Zylothewolf
11/27/18 5:08:31 PM
#331:


charmander6000 posted...
snake_5036 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
7. Dante - 36:1

I want to travel to this alternative dimension where Dante is part of the NN instead of Sonic :(


The Noble Nine was created in 2003. Sonic was almost not even part of it with people only having eight or Magus instead of Sonic (or the NN+Magus). Sonic reaching the quarterfinals and being part of the 2002 contest was ultimately the deciding factor.


I think we couldn't really call them the Noble Nine until 2006, when Solid Snake won over Mega Man and Sonic won over Crono. Both Snake and Sonic needed 4 contests to get a big win, instead of looking like the upset will happen one day. Then Jay Solano killed the concept when he won over Link. ;)
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AxemRedRanger
11/27/18 5:11:05 PM
#333:


KamikazePotato posted...
Safer_777 posted...
Damn I have to go to sleep. Hope the rat does it. I never understood why MM is so popular anyways. Yeah the games were good. Like 30 years ago! I believe the NES games were the best right? Yeah I know nostalgia.


Sonic, Mega Man, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Crono have are all 20+ years past their heyday and their still among the strongest contests have to offer.

I'm in the minority, but I got into Mega Man through Mega Man 64, Mega Man Battle Network, and Mega Man Xtreme, which all released around the same time. I made sure to play the NES games afterwards because I loved all the other ones I played.
Nah, Crono's not 20 years past his heydey. That was probably the early 2000's. Final Fantasy Chronicles in 2001 was probably big for him, but SNES emulation getting better and more widespread over time might have been even more important.
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SlugSh0t
11/27/18 5:11:13 PM
#334:


seriously these huge spikes by mm need to be looked into...he has a history of vote stuffing.

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ZeldaTPLink
11/27/18 5:11:40 PM
#335:


SlugSh0t posted...
seriously these huge spikes by mm need to be looked into...he has a history of vote stuffing.

;(


Can't tell if this is serious or parody
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snake_5036
11/27/18 5:20:28 PM
#337:


Lead change!
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tgs2
11/27/18 5:20:46 PM
#338:


Pikachu finally got tired of stalling forever.
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SlugSh0t
11/27/18 5:21:09 PM
#339:


w00t! go pikachu
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tennisboy213
11/27/18 5:21:40 PM
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Yuri_LowelI
11/27/18 5:23:00 PM
#341:


PIkachu used THUNDER
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Denzokuken
11/27/18 5:23:13 PM
#342:


It's interesting how this match's trends have been very similar to those of X vs Tifa, even though the revisionists have already put Tifa's victory down to 'hentai' and 'rallies'.
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PrinceKaro
11/27/18 5:24:16 PM
#343:


chuuuuuuu
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/27/18 5:24:21 PM
#344:


charmander6000 posted...
LordOfDabu posted...
My (very hazy and probably wrong) memory had CJayC's topic listing Mario and Link as first and second respectively on odds while the vibe from board posters was that Sephiroth and Snake were the favorites. There were some who thought Mario would lose the first round due to people not taking it seriously ("joke voting") and there was widespread debate on what the actual wording of the poll would be.

This is probably all false but it's what I remember.


The odds are listed on gamefaqscontests.com in the 2k2 x-stats section

Here are the odds for the top 10 characters

1. Mario - 6:1
2. Solid Snake - 8:1
3. Link - 9:1
3. Sephiroth - 9:1
5. Cloud - 14:1
6. Crono - 33:1
7. Dante - 36:1
7. Samus - 36:1
9. Mega Man - 45:1
9. Sonic - 45:1


Wow, interesting stuff. Though there are definitely some oddities on that page, such as "expected seed" being dictated by X-Stat finish within the division, resulting in the #5 character in the X-stats being "expected to be a 4-seed" while the #62 character is "expected to be a 14-seed". And that's from the same division! Mega Man murdered his first two matches, resulting in his second opponent literally finishing ahead of only his own first opponent and Mega's first opponent, and then both division semifinals and the division finals were really close, resulting in the four of them finishing #2-#5 when Sephiroth put up a better number on Link in the Semis than Mario did in the Finals.

Actually now that I look at it, outside of the two matches where Mega Man murdered everyone, the West Division held up really well all around! 8 of the top 14 finishers in the Raw X-Stats came from that one division. Kind of fluky though; Tidus managed to get unexpectedly close to Sonic, and that was a round 2 match so he dragged his first opponent up with him.
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TheCodeisBosco
11/27/18 5:24:59 PM
#345:


This... isn't actually a rally-free result, is it? Like, I actually have Pikachu here in my second-chance bracket, but he seemed effectively cooked earlier.
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tennisboy213
11/27/18 5:25:30 PM
#346:


no comment
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SlugSh0t
11/27/18 5:26:48 PM
#347:


holy fucking hell.. pikachu calm the fuck down we want a match...no thats inhumane.. go all out pikachu ;'(
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2Dover3D
11/27/18 5:28:02 PM
#348:


damn the rat is gonna win this isn't he?

Denzokuken posted...
It's interesting how this match's trends have been very similar to those of X vs Tifa, even though the revisionists have already put Tifa's victory down to 'hentai' and 'rallies'.


hentai is part of her natural strength though
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imthestuntman
11/27/18 5:28:45 PM
#349:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
This... isn't actually a rally-free result, is it? Like, I actually have Pikachu here in my second-chance bracket, but he seemed effectively cooked earlier.

Some small rallies on reddit for both early in the day. Seems like it probably helped mega man slightly more than pikachu based on feedback on that sight but hard to say. Pokemon is probably more active so might end up having a higher number drawn here even if people didnt upvote or post.
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/27/18 5:29:15 PM
#350:


Zylothewolf posted...
charmander6000 posted...
snake_5036 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
7. Dante - 36:1

I want to travel to this alternative dimension where Dante is part of the NN instead of Sonic :(


The Noble Nine was created in 2003. Sonic was almost not even part of it with people only having eight or Magus instead of Sonic (or the NN+Magus). Sonic reaching the quarterfinals and being part of the 2002 contest was ultimately the deciding factor.


I think we couldn't really call them the Noble Nine until 2006, when Solid Snake won over Mega Man and Sonic won over Crono. Both Snake and Sonic needed 4 contests to get a big win, instead of looking like the upset will happen one day. Then Jay Solano killed the concept when he won over Link. ;)


2006 was the year that the Noble Nine finally all had wins against another member of their group, but it should be noted that most of the characters who had been in every contest and, at least at first, had only lost to Noble Niners had lost to one of those two. They were the bottom of the Noble Nine, to be sure, but any attempt to expand the Noble Nine would give them wins against fellow members of whichever expansion you wanted to use.
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SlugSh0t
11/27/18 5:30:33 PM
#351:


uh, how do ganondorf and bowser stack against pikachu? MM might lose again to ganondorf if he loses this.
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