Poll of the Day > is it normal for 30+ year olds to live with parents in 2018

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Define what is normal.
Many folk live with their parents at any age for many reasons. One of them being it's cheaper in most cases. Not sure why you feel insecure man.
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It's a cultural thing for sure.
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It's normal now - it wasn't in the past, even a single income can buy a house.

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?
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Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.
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I'd say no.
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Locke90 posted...

Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.

Just like slavery and beating women.
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Lokarin posted...

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?

Maybe if they're selling weed on the side

Its not normal, but its happening and its on the rise
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GanglyKhan posted...

Locke90 posted...

Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.

Just like slavery and beating women.

Slavery was more like 300 years ago, and beating women was always considered bad by everyone except the religious
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OhhhJa posted...

Lokarin posted...

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?

Maybe if they're selling weed on the side

Depends on the area. Some areas are super cheap...

JixHedgehog posted...

Its not normal, but its happening and its on the rise

I think it was mostly in the US that it wasnMt considered normal. I think other countries were fine with it...
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Its understandable considering the cost of living nowadays
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Far more normal now than it was back then. I remember watching That 70's Show and it was actually weird seeing Red telling Eric to get out and whatnot.

It's costly as fuck to live on your own. I waited until I was in a relationship to move out and I lived with my mom until I was 23. I just lied and said I took care of her.

Mead posted...

Its understandable considering the cost of living nowadays

In short. This.
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I just moved out, it costs 1300 bucks a month for a decent place in a garbage town here
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Totally normal, throughout history people would only move out once they got married.
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I just moved out, it costs 1300 bucks a month for a decent place in a garbage town here

Jeez... Sounds expensive. My rent is only $750 a month... It would probably be more expensive if I moved home. Thats one of he reasons I dont want to go. Though, Im sure I would stay with my family for a little while. But my mom would probably try to help me and my brother get our own place...
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LinkPizza posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I just moved out, it costs 1300 bucks a month for a decent place in a garbage town here

Jeez... Sounds expensive. My rent is only $750 a month...

My rent would be $780/mo, but after 10 years I finally got subsidy.
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Americans seem to really like kicking their children out of the house. I am Asian. I am expected to stay with my family, inherit the family, and take care of my parents when they get old.

But realistically, I "live with my family" in our Vancouver house while the rest of my family members stay mostly in Hong Kong and China. So I live with my family by myself.
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Who the hell conflates living with your family with slavery or beating women is there sometjing YOU want to tell us ganglykhan ?
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InhumaneRaider posted...

Far more normal now than it was back then. I remember watching That 70's Show and it was actually weird seeing Red telling Eric to get out and whatnot.

It's costly as fuck to live on your own. I waited until I was in a relationship to move out and I lived with my mom until I was 23. I just lied and said I took care of her.

Mead posted...

Its understandable considering the cost of living nowadays

In short. This.

exactly i have a cousin who lived with his mum till she died.
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30 year olds are still a bit rare, mainly due to the cost of living spike in the last 5 years or so. It wasn't super rare 12 years ago for 18-20 year olds to continue living with their parents, but it also was significantly cheaper for them to move out at that point.

Even in the last few years the cost of 1 bedrooms have skyrocketed. In fact, a place in Olympia that used to be 800$ is now 1285$ a month!! that is over a 50% increase in 3 years, and that is just one example.

At this point unless a teen graduates with a solid job paying over $20 an hour (which doesn't happen often) they either have to live with their parents, or roomates (and obviously the parent situation can often be far cheaper, and less stressful (depending on the roomates of course).

12 years ago on the other hand, you could rent a small 1 bedroom for $500-$600 most places and pay for that even working at a fast food place or any min wage job. So yeah, it was a choice back then, and many current 30 year olds decided to move out, only a few probably never did until now....when it doesn't make any sense at all anymore.
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LinkPizza posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I just moved out, it costs 1300 bucks a month for a decent place in a garbage town here

Jeez... Sounds expensive. My rent is only $750 a month... It would probably be more expensive if I moved home. Thats one of he reasons I dont want to go. Though, Im sure I would stay with my family for a little while. But my mom would probably try to help me and my brother get our own place...

I hope it stays that low friend. It was like that here just a few years ago and jumped so much, so fast, it's scary. Everywhere is getting californicationed at this point, where you can't rent a 1 bedroom for less then $1000 a month. It's crazy.
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wolfy42 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I just moved out, it costs 1300 bucks a month for a decent place in a garbage town here

Jeez... Sounds expensive. My rent is only $750 a month... It would probably be more expensive if I moved home. Thats one of he reasons I dont want to go. Though, Im sure I would stay with my family for a little while. But my mom would probably try to help me and my brother get our own place...

I hope it stays that low friend. It was like that here just a few years ago and jumped so much, so fast, it's scary. Everywhere is getting californicationed at this point, where you can't rent a 1 bedroom for less then $1000 a month. It's crazy.

It mostly likely will, just because of how the city here is... But if I move to another city or back home, it will definitely be more expensive...
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No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

everyone doesn't have the same opportunities as you how do people still not get this lol
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xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

Yeah. But you also have a family. Its different for everyone. I moved out a month after turning 20, but I was in the Air Force and made decent money. Just because its not normal for you doesnt mean its not normal. In the US, it doesnt seem normal just because of the past however many years. But in the past, people moved out when they got married. And it seemed like they had a lot of high school sweethearts getting married pretty young. I believe in other parts of the world other than the US, they have a higher percentage of people living with their parents for longer. And it seems to work better for them. Why should it be normal for someone to have to move out young, and struggle to live in a place, especially when single. Just because its easy for you doesn't mean its easy for everybody. Especially when theyre in a different area...
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xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

LMAO, stfu.

1. You're either lying or

2. You're either lying.
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xjayguyx posted...

Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

West Coast where? Metro Vancouver is like 5x the price of Prince George. They are both West Coast.
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xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal.

Sit your arse down son and mind your manors!
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I always believed you should live with your parents until you are old enough and financially stable to take care of them, and they will be basically living with you.
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only if parents are old and/or dependent tbqh
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I feel it heavily depends on cost of living, rent/mortgage, your income, etc. I know some folks view moving out, living independently, etc. as being part of growing up and being an adult. I feel however making smart financial decisions is also a part of growing up and if swallowing one's pride, living at home, helping with utility, property tax, etc. while minimizing your spending is part of that, so be it.

What good is it to show you're "independent" if you throwing away your money on rent? Friend of mine bought a nice size home in Phoeniz, Arizona for I think $200-300k. My sister and brother-in-law recently bought a home of similar size in Los Angeles, California for $750k. Everyone's situation is bound to be different.

xjayguyx posted...

I only have a high-school diploma and make good money

That is very vague. Friend of mine only has a high-school diploma but he works for the city with LADWP and I think makes $70-80k a year after 10+ years of working there and constantly earning new certification. But I doubt that many folks with only high school diploma can obtain what he has due to the limited number of positions available and based on how often I see the city opening up positions that only need a GED. From what he told me, the city would rather pay him to work overtime regularly than hire new technicians. That kinda screws over anyone else trying to get a foot into the door.
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xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

Why cant single people make as much money as me and my wife??? They must be lazy!
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Lokarin posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Locke90 posted...

Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.

Just like slavery and beating women.

Slavery was more like 300 years ago, and beating women was always considered bad by everyone except the religious

What? You either don't know history that well or your math skills are piss poor. Slavery existed in the US as recently as 150 years ago. The US Civil War took place from 1861-1865. That was the war that ended slavery in the US.

Women were also definitely treated as property of men too. Women didn't even get the right to vote until 1920. That was less than 100 years ago... Have you ever seen the TV series Mad Men? It's a fairly accurate portrayal of life in the 1960s, and women were treated poorly even that recently.

In all honesty, unless you were a heterosexual white man, life pretty much sucked for you before the mid-late 1900s.

I'm quite sure it's looked down upon in US culture but it's normal in others.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

Lokarin posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Locke90 posted...

Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.

Just like slavery and beating women.

Slavery was more like 300 years ago, and beating women was always considered bad by everyone except the religious

What? You either don't know history that well or your math skills are piss poor. Slavery existed in the US as recently as 150 years ago. The US Civil War took place from 1861-1865. That was the war that ended slavery in the US.

Women were also definitely treated as property of men too. Women didn't even get the right to vote until 1920. That was less than 100 years ago... Have you ever seen the TV series Mad Men? It's a fairly accurate portrayal of life in the 1960s, and women were treated poorly even that recently.

In all honesty, unless you were a heterosexual white man, life pretty much sucked for you before the mid-late 1900s.

Not true. Most women enjoy being treated like slaves. I've learned this from porn.
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Violet_Blooded posted...

I always believed you should live with your parents until you are old enough and financially stable to take care of them, and they will be basically living with you.

I would literally commit not alive if that was my case.

Love my folks, don't want to live with them forever though.
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Yes. It took me 10 years of saving by not paying rent and only helping my folks paying the bills to afford a house
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Sefrig posted...

xjayguyx posted...

No not normal. Just because some "adults" .. kids.. do it doesn't mean it's normal. People are more lazy today than they ever have been. Yes times are harder today but it's not that much harder... I only have a high-school diploma and make good money, have a mortgage on a house, longer term relationship 10+ years, a son and so on. So no excuse for others not to be able to go live a life away from mommy and daddy. I moved out when I was 20 and have been fine since. Also my area is west coast Canada so not cheap either.

everyone doesn't have the same opportunities as you how do people still not get this lol

He could be a really hard worker or good at making connections but yeah... some people get really lucky and act like they earned it. I know plenty of people like that. With only a high school diploma these days, its tough to land a decent job. Usually, people without a degree have to work 60-70 hours a week at multiple jobs to support a family

minervo posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

Lokarin posted...

GanglyKhan posted...

Locke90 posted...

Its always been normal its only in the last 100 years that its been frowned upon.

Just like slavery and beating women.

Slavery was more like 300 years ago, and beating women was always considered bad by everyone except the religious

What? You either don't know history that well or your math skills are piss poor. Slavery existed in the US as recently as 150 years ago. The US Civil War took place from 1861-1865. That was the war that ended slavery in the US.

Women were also definitely treated as property of men too. Women didn't even get the right to vote until 1920. That was less than 100 years ago... Have you ever seen the TV series Mad Men? It's a fairly accurate portrayal of life in the 1960s, and women were treated poorly even that recently.

In all honesty, unless you were a heterosexual white man, life pretty much sucked for you before the mid-late 1900s.

Not true. Most women enjoy being treated like slaves. I've learned this from porn.

LOL
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Waltons-style multigenerational housing is actually making a comeback.

I live with my girlfriend and her mom. I'm 31 and my gf is 35. Her mom's got health issues so we pay all the bills for the most part and she just helps around the house
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None of the above.
Other option: Yes.

I'm 26 and I still live my parents. Still feel like a late teenager.
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It's a case by case thing

I would say you need a good reason to still be living with your parents above the age of 25. Plenty of reasons qualify.
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Rather than being normal, there just isn't much of a choice.

Sure you could live on your own, but you wouldn't be able to afford anything and even the slightest unexpected expense would cause to spiral into uncontrollable debt.

I live with my mom I help pay stuff and cook. I also get to buy the games and can afford cable and internet. Things I would not be able to do on my own.

We do not have the same opportunities our parents did in the job market.

minervo posted...

Totally normal, throughout history people would only move out once they got married.

If we still followed this today, most of the users on Gamefaqs would never move out.
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Not that normal. It tends to be a more uncommon thing by that age.

Lokarin posted...

It's normal now - it wasn't in the past, even a single income can buy a house.

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?

Uhhhhh...?

BlackScythe0 posted...

Rather than being normal, there just isn't much of a choice.

Sure you could live on your own, but you wouldn't be able to afford anything and even the slightest unexpected expense would cause to spiral into uncontrollable debt.

You know, there's an option between "live on your own" and "live with your parents" >_>
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Lokarin posted...

It's normal now - it wasn't in the past, even a single income can buy a house.

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?

Yeah, bur if you live alone, then you will be more motivated to get a better job

Where Im at, its way too expensive to live on my own with the job I currently have. Heck, if I do get this new job, Ill have to move out and find a roommate to make ends meet...but at least Ill have health coverage.
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vocedelmorte posted...

Lokarin posted...

It's normal now - it wasn't in the past, even a single income can buy a house.

Can your McDonalds worker buy a house? No? Can they rent alone? Maybe?

Yeah, bur if you live alone, then you will be more motivated to get a better job

Being motivated is good. But motivation alone isnt going to get you a job. And it would suck if you were living alone and still couldnt get a good enough job to support yourself.
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