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BarneyBosco
09/11/18 10:14:00 AM
#408:


The coach throwing Serena under the bus by admitting he was coaching was the best. But to the subject, the cartoon is not racist.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 10:28:20 AM
#409:


Clocking out the night-shift, hopping on the 5-bus home
Trickle city dripping down on me, i mind my own

For the most part, normally i ride with ease
But there's a situation brewing in the far backseat
I should have seen it, nippling on my nerves like a rattlesnake
Standing in the aisle screaming: I JUST WANNA MASTURBATE!
Shit, why's it gotta be like this? Why's it my luck to turn around and see this shit?
Public transit now feels like a rape-van
Stuck in a two dollar circus with a naked man
I pull the cord-driver i just wanna get out
And no need for alarm, but this dude has got his dick out
And he's about to flip out, can't you hear him screaming?
Open up the doors, before we all gets hit with semen!
This is not my evening, and i ain't playing games
So hit the fucking brakes before i punch him in the face!
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chrono625
09/11/18 10:44:45 AM
#410:


CyricZ posted...
Any good faith in this discussion has long since evaporated. I'm with Dyinglegacy.


I asked you a legit question and you completely ignore it.

The lack of good faith you are referring to is just the fact you're frustrated that people are not agreeing with you over this argument. Any differing opinion is immediately being dismissed as racism, ignorance or bigotry. As is par for the course.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 10:53:09 AM
#411:


I should have bought a car, i could have rode a bike
I would have fucking walked if i knew what it was like
Now i'm gonna have to fight this motherfucker, kick him in the pearls
And plus he keeps calling me a girl
I thought he was a girl! i thought he was a ****!
I wouldn't try to fuck if i knew he was a guy!
Now he's tryna fight me, but he'll back off
Cause even if he strikes me, I'll still **** off!
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CyricZ
09/11/18 12:42:27 PM
#413:


chrono625 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Any good faith in this discussion has long since evaporated. I'm with Dyinglegacy.


I asked you a legit question and you completely ignore it.

The lack of good faith you are referring to is just the fact you're frustrated that people are not agreeing with you over this argument. Any differing opinion is immediately being dismissed as racism, ignorance or bigotry. As is par for the course.

I answered your legit question and then you try to deflect to some "well maybe...."

Horseshit.

Maybe I'm not in the fucking mood for this deflection. This is the very bad faith I'm talking about: making excuses for behavior rooted in racial stereotyping.

There are SO many other ways this artist could have gone with this representation. I'm sick of people excusing racial behavior because "we don't know what their intent was". We don't have to, and in the end, it won't matter. We can see the product. That will last far longer than any excuse.
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chrono625
09/11/18 12:46:04 PM
#414:


CyricZ posted...
chrono625 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Any good faith in this discussion has long since evaporated. I'm with Dyinglegacy.


I asked you a legit question and you completely ignore it.

The lack of good faith you are referring to is just the fact you're frustrated that people are not agreeing with you over this argument. Any differing opinion is immediately being dismissed as racism, ignorance or bigotry. As is par for the course.

I answered your legit question and then you try to deflect to some "well maybe...."

Horseshit.

Maybe I'm not in the fucking mood for this deflection. This is the very bad faith I'm talking about: making excuses for behavior rooted in racial stereotyping.

There are SO many other ways this artist could have gone with this representation. I'm sick of people excusing racial behavior because "we don't know what their intent was". We don't have to, and in the end, it won't matter. We can see the product. That will last far longer than any excuse.


So the "i'm taking my ball and going home" tactic.

You never answered my question BTW.
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 12:55:21 PM
#415:


Hairistotle posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
Get this dumb shit to 500 already, that way it clears off my damn history.

So fuckin' done.

Tired of it happening, tired of hearing about it happening. Just tired of being tired.

Spam emojis or some shit for the last 100 posts.

Wouldn't want to inconvenience you by reminding you racism exists


They truly only believe racism only occurs against white people now
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White Eagle
09/11/18 12:58:06 PM
#416:


So some jerk drew a cartoon, so we're going to ignore the fact that Serena turned herself into a parody. Got it.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 1:00:18 PM
#417:


(Ya ain't scaring this white boy!)
I'm on a bus! (on a bus!) On a bus! (on a bus!)
And i ain't fucking leaving 'till i ***!
This skinny little hipster-chick, ended on the front
And strutted to the back like an oversexed-slut
I can tell what she wants, i'm looking at her lip-ring
She's glancing at my pants, looking for my big thing
Nice tattoos a shaggy short bob- So i whip it out, im tryna get slobbed
I wanna get off! Baby's got from afraid to meaner
Kinda looks like a lesbian version of Justin Bieber
I catch her eyes, shes looking at me
I say: What's your name girl, she says back: GRIEVES!
Her voice was deep! I'm thinking what the fuck!?
People always tryna trick me when im riding the bus
This dude is tryna throw a punch while im rubbing my nuts
If he had keeped his mouth shut, i probably could have finished up
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Flamazide
09/11/18 1:02:10 PM
#419:


I should have bought a car, i could have rode a bike
I would have fucking walked if i knew what it was like
Now i'm gonna have to fight this motherfucker, kick him in the pearls
And plus he keeps calling me a girl
I thought he was a girl! i thought he was a ****!
I wouldn't try to fuck if i knew he was a guy!
Now he's tryna fight me, but he'll back off
Cause even if he strikes me, I'll still **** off!

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(Oh no here he comes, If it's boys he'll still **** off)
(Watch out for his ***, He's a meat beater - a meat beater)
(Oh no here he comes, If it's boys he'll still **** off)
(Watch out for his ***, He's a meat beater - a meat beater)
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White Eagle
09/11/18 1:02:37 PM
#420:


It's pretty hard to the Serena sycophants who believe everyone is out to get her because of racism and sexism.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 1:04:06 PM
#422:


Oh!
My disposition is in a position for all to see
Regretless for how it feels
(I got a bullet with a name on it!
Bullet with a name!)
Whoa, because the cause for all the pause
You think you see
Is really concentration on the steel
(I got a bullet with a name on it!
Bullet with a name!)

You see, everybody's watchin', and passin' judgment on
Every little move and decision I make
How can I be an individual with the weight of the world
And eight other planets to take?
And with everything happening?
Gunshots clappin' and people all runnin'
In every direction
With their hands up praying for the drama to end
I got my hand out looking for some money to spend!
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 1:07:23 PM
#423:


White Eagle posted...
It's pretty hard to the Serena sycophants who believe everyone is out to get her because of racism and sexism.


I mean the history of racist bullshit shes had to endure from every angle of tennis speaks for itself...but let's just believe he drew a haitian/Japanese player white based off of photos he saw and let's pretend a depiction of serena, which is clearly a mammy caricature, is just an exaggerated satire.

have a good day
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Flamazide
09/11/18 1:32:15 PM
#425:


Hairistotle posted...
Yo Flama can you like stop or something

I mean, we clearly aren't going to have a real discussion about this. I think the other guy is right and that we should just get this topic to 500 and never speak of it again. No good is going to come from this at this point.
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 5:00:19 PM
#426:


chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


You are literally defending him making black people literally black like shadows. Really you are defending that.
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chrono625
09/11/18 5:00:56 PM
#427:


cjsdowg posted...
chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


You are literally defending him making black people literally black like shadows. Really you are defending that.


What the fuck are you even on about?
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 5:02:13 PM
#428:


chrono625 posted...

What the f*** are you even on about?


Did you not click the link?
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chrono625
09/11/18 5:03:29 PM
#429:


cjsdowg posted...
chrono625 posted...

What the f*** are you even on about?


Did you not click the link?


Yes.

Explain what your point was.
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 5:12:06 PM
#430:


HE literally draw black people black as in the color black. While white people were normal.
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NurseRedHeart
09/11/18 5:49:08 PM
#431:


His Twitter is just polluted with SJW trolls lol

They're claiming the guy will be fired but the entire newspaper backs him haha

Anyway, this isn't a racist comic. Please learn what a fucking caricature is.

Serena earned this portrayal, did you guys not actually see a vid of her behavior?
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Taharqa_
09/11/18 5:51:41 PM
#432:


NurseRedHeart posted...
His Twitter is just polluted with SJW trolls lol

They're claiming the guy will be fired but the entire newspaper backs him haha

Anyway, this isn't a racist comic. Please learn what a fucking caricature is.

Serena earned this portrayal, did you guys not actually see a vid of her behavior?


Literally a Mammy caricature, hardly any different from those racist Sambo cartoons of the 50s and 60s.
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NurseRedHeart
09/11/18 5:53:03 PM
#433:


Delusion personified^
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 5:54:13 PM
#434:


NurseRedHeart posted...
Delusion personified^


The international condemnation he and the paper received suggests otherwise
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CyricZ
09/11/18 5:55:29 PM
#435:


NurseRedHeart posted...
Anyway, this isn't a racist comic.

Does "NurseRedHeart: Expert on Racism" fit properly on a business card?
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darkjedilink
09/11/18 5:55:58 PM
#436:


Taharqa_ posted...
NurseRedHeart posted...
His Twitter is just polluted with SJW trolls lol

They're claiming the guy will be fired but the entire newspaper backs him haha

Anyway, this isn't a racist comic. Please learn what a fucking caricature is.

Serena earned this portrayal, did you guys not actually see a vid of her behavior?


Literally a Mammy caricature, hardly any different from those racist Sambo cartoons of the 50s and 60s.

Why is it a Mammy caricature? Does Sarena not have large lips, large curly hair, a large nose, and a large-yet-athletic frame?
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NurseRedHeart
09/11/18 5:56:28 PM
#437:


SJWism is a global problem.

For instance check out Sweden, more than half the sexual assualts committed by non-natives yet the government there says everything is a ok.
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BlackWoman462-X
09/11/18 5:58:01 PM
#438:


Dont forget about the international condemnation of her (Serena's) embarrassing actions.
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 5:59:46 PM
#439:


BlackWoman462-X posted...
Dont forget about the international condemnation of her (Serena's) embarrassing actions.


The reaction to Serenas demeanor was mixed

This reaction to this racist POS, outside of the MAGA crew, has been near universal in disgust.
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BlackWoman462-X
09/11/18 6:02:27 PM
#440:


Most of the international community understands what a caricature is and stands behind the artist and the newspaper.

Serena is far more privileged than most of the people on Earth yet she felt entitled to be able to cheat. She felt it ok to blame this all in sexism and racism when the facts dont support the claims at all.
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 6:04:21 PM
#441:


ok
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CyricZ
09/11/18 6:05:46 PM
#442:


BlackWoman462-X posted...
Most of the international community understands what a caricature is and stands behind the artist and the newspaper.

Thank goodness you've claimed an unprovable as fact, otherwise someone might call you on it.
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LittleScootaIoo
09/11/18 6:09:51 PM
#443:


The newspaper isn't even an American one, lol

The comic was purely a typical caricature, a very tame one at that as well.

Serena embarrassed the entire sport of Tennis and athleticism as a whole. She earned her punishment, her $17k fine and this silly cartoon.
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MEGAze
09/11/18 6:13:24 PM
#444:


A "blackwoman" account made last month with 6 posts. lol
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MEGAze
09/11/18 6:14:01 PM
#445:


LittleScootaIoo posted...
The newspaper isn't even an American one, lol

So?
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Bishop9800
09/11/18 6:18:19 PM
#446:


MEGAze posted...
A "blackwoman" account made last month with 6 posts. lol


This
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Taharqa_
09/11/18 6:44:18 PM
#447:


NurseRedHeart posted...
Delusion personified^


Says the one arguing from a position of ignorance
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White Eagle
09/11/18 6:57:42 PM
#448:


FrisbeeDude posted...
White Eagle posted...
It's pretty hard to the Serena sycophants who believe everyone is out to get her because of racism and sexism.


I mean the history of racist bullshit shes had to endure from every angle of tennis speaks for itself...but let's just believe he drew a haitian/Japanese player white based off of photos he saw and let's pretend a depiction of serena, which is clearly a mammy caricature, is just an exaggerated satire.

have a good day

Citation needed.

Her actions in U.S. Open finals speak for themselves. In the 2009 final, she threatens a line judge then denies (people sitting court side called her out on her lie). In 2011, she gets into another argument, asking if the people involved were "the same as last time" (they weren't). And now she throws another fit declaring this happens every year (it doesn't).

You can just look at the gaps in time to see this clearly isn't happening all the time.

It could be because she's black, but that didn't seem to stop Sloane Stephens from winning the U.S. Open last year.

Maybe it's anti-woman bias everyone is talking about, but, honestly, going off the "if it's men, it's outspoken, if it's women, it's hysterical" accusations of a double standard, I've been trying to think of another women who's been accused of that or something similar, much less had multiple incidents like Serena, and I'm having trouble thinking of others. I can think of men like Benoit Paire who are regarded as basket cases who won't amount to anything if they don't get over themselves.

And it's a little hard not to call Serena hysterical when she was screaming that "this happens every year," when it doesn't happen every year...just the years when she is losing.
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CyricZ
09/11/18 7:15:58 PM
#449:


Remember from the conservative playbook, folks. Change the argument. Make them defend something besides the actual point of the argument.

Instead of focusing on this comic, deflect to whether or not she deserved her penalty. Heck point out that another black woman has done a thing?
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MarqueeSeries
09/11/18 7:29:13 PM
#450:


I think some people could benefit from a rhetoric class tbh
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White Eagle
09/11/18 7:29:28 PM
#451:


CyricZ posted...
Remember from the conservative playbook, folks. Change the argument. Make them defend something besides the actual point of the argument.

Instead of focusing on this comic, deflect to whether or not she deserved her penalty. Heck point out that another black woman has done a thing?

Serena deflected first from her actions on court by claiming sexism, are you accusing her of being a conservative or something?
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CyricZ
09/11/18 7:37:18 PM
#452:


White Eagle posted...
Serena deflected first

Now who's throwing a tantrum
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MEGAze
09/11/18 7:41:24 PM
#453:


CyricZ posted...
White Eagle posted...
Serena deflected first

Now who's throwing a tantrum

I never saw that show in your avatar. How good is it?
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/11/18 7:47:18 PM
#454:


CyricZ posted...
Remember from the conservative playbook, folks. Change the argument. Make them defend something besides the actual point of the argument.

Instead of focusing on this comic, deflect to whether or not she deserved her penalty. Heck point out that another black woman has done a thing?

Serena didn't point out white people and males? Interesting.

And the only people that still think the comic is racist are delusional people that probably think apples are racist too.
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White Eagle
09/11/18 7:59:48 PM
#455:


CyricZ posted...
White Eagle posted...
Serena deflected first

Now who's throwing a tantrum

Keep on deflecting. Can't say I didn't call it 200 posts ago.

tl,dr: The cartoon may have stepped over a line, but the general sentiment and fact that Serena whined and got what she deserved on Saturday is still true. People who don't follow tennis will see this and decide the incident must be an example of racism and sexism after all.

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MEGAze
09/11/18 8:01:53 PM
#456:


The incident wasn't racist. It was sexist. The cartoon was racist--or more so, it promoted racist ideology.
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White Eagle
09/11/18 8:03:24 PM
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