Board 8 > Let me talk about the clothing design in Umineko *don't spoil me!!!*

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good question
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no answers for you
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I haven't played in a while

uhh

this anime-ass dude who is helping Ange is cool
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Amakusa? His taste in music is, at least.
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Yeah, him.
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I have to say, Ange "fighting and trying to find out the truth" loses a bit of its luster when she can talk to a witch Maria and also summon purgatory stake people.
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Man I don't care about ANY of this stuff at all. I get this is all make-believe stuff Ange is imagining from reading Maria's book but still.
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Yeah, this part is unbelievably dull.
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Man, going from this weird flashback to yet ANOTHER scene where see how Rosa is total human garbage is real.... good. I've long since given up the idea that Rosa is a good character but a bad person. I just don't want to see her anymore
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This part of the episode isn't particularly pleasant to read, but I think it's rather good.
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Rosa is what helps me get through this part.

well that and Wingless

what a great song
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Yeah, that's it. I'm done.
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.. Well I do want to see super strong Kinzo again so I'll probably continue sometime.

But this right now is like the worst of Fata Morgana. Reveling in torture and humiliation, with no comeuppance for the people responsible. Heck even Fata Morgana rectified this. And of course, since Fata Morgana is one of the greatest stories ever written it can get away some a flaw here and there.
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For what it's worth, once you get to the actual "game board" portion of Episode 4, the Ange stuff is largely behind you.
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I AM really intrigued by this idea that possible Kinzo has been dead from the beginning in EVERY episode. I don't think there's anything to contradict that that I can think of, especially you take any scene between him and the servants as seriously as like, the ones with the purgatory sisters and laser blades ( as in, not at all ).
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Also these Ange scenes show there are outside forces like the Sumaderas who have a vested interest in seeing Kinzo's whole family dead. Since they would then have control over the last surviving Ushiromiya in Ange, that there is a good reason have someone sneak onto the island to preform assassinations. And since Kinzo may have been dead since before the conference, this does leave room for an 18th person we don't know about.
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Though, "there was a secret hitman unrelated to everyone on the island" is not a very fulfilling answer.
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fata morgana should be avoided, got it
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Your loss, but I understand. Fata Morgana is a story of tragedy and romance, it's not for everyone. There's no silly anime fights scenes or anything like that.
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Should I be.. happy? that Ange is giving into delusions and is starting to imagine friends again. She's upset over things she said to Maria... a version of Maria that doesn't actually exist.
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Man if this whole thing turns out to be "it was ALL Ange's imagination!!" I won't like it one bit
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It's really him!!!!!!!!! Kinzo!!!!!
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Welcome to the hype

Unfortunately I had to stop during the middle of the scene, but so far what I saw did not disappoint. I wouldn't mind seeing a version of this with no murders but Kinzo actually DOES interview all the grandchildren to find a real successor.
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GANON1025 posted...

Man if this whole thing turns out to be "it was ALL Ange's imagination!!" I won't like it one bit

Oh god, it IS this isnt it? The more I think about it the more the pieces fit.
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GOLDSMITH is a cool sorcerer name.
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Gaap is pretty cool. I even like her outfit for the most part, even though I'm still not a fan of the rabbit girls'.
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Kinzo the best

Gaap the worst
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Rosa's being tortured for what she did

Mara is getting her revenge...

this is AMAZING. Maybe the best scene yet. Rosa deserves worse, and I really wish she wouldn't show up in the story anymore, but this'll do.
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Endless torture, strung between life and death.....

Rosa is still getting it too easy for me imo
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So I was looking through old youtube videos that I liked, and apparently I saw and liked this years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcXXTe7f4I" data-time="
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So here I am at this part with the kids, and like I'm wondering when was the last time before this when Jessica had a prominent role in a scene? It must have been a while ago.
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the cast of umineko is not utilized very well.
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The cast of umineko is, frankly, too fucking big to be utilized very well when put in a kill-em-all murder mystery genre.

Jessica best cousin
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It's hard to compete with the man, the myth, the legend Battler
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It's interesting that Kanon and Shannon are talking as if they remember the previous episodes.
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If Battler were alive today he'd be almost 50.

Makes U think..
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Kinzo's capturing of Beatrice got way more creepier now that this torture dungeon has been revealed to be a part of that mansion.
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Hey it's that number again!!

07151129

The one written somewhere in episode 3 is also in this letter that Nanjo's son didn't write.
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it's a pretty good number
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if you convert those into two dates we are exactly halfway between both of those dates right now

no seriously
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it's a SIGN
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So many one-off characters are getting portrait art in this section. Even the good ol boat captain finally gets one!!
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Human Saktarou just looks too ridiculous I'm sorry I don't like it
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Was I supposed to know what Ange saw there? The thing no one else could see?
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So I think I have a better understanding of what is happening with Shannon and Kanon. I think that Kinzo read about familiars and witch servants in one of his books, and sought to get his own. So he trains the servants as "furniture" to almost play out his magic fantasy, to imitate what he has learned in his fantasy books in the real world.
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GANON1025 posted...

Was I supposed to know what Ange saw there? The thing no one else could see?

No, and people were speculating on it for years after the initial release of the episode.

GANON1025 posted...

Was I supposed to know what Ange saw there? The thing no one else could see?

Not yet, but you might work out what it was by the end of the episode.
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It's time, I think, for me to officially and objectively rank the Ushiromyas, from best to worst. I shouldn't have to put this in red for you to know this list is correct and true. Even I am a little stunned at where some people fell on the list.

Rudolf
Battler
GOLDSMITH "Kinzo"
Eva
Kyrie
Ange
Krauss
George
Maria
Natsuhi
Jessica
Hideyoshi
Rosa
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