Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 7: The Letting (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

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Another instance of Inga maybe low-key not being quite as evil as he seems is the fact that he gave Maya all sorts of amenities, even as he held her captive. Also, when you examine his room, you can find a drawer full of unapproved execution papers, some dating back as far as five years, so perhaps a part of him didn't actually like sentencing people to death that he thought were innocent.

I mean don't get me wrong the dude was still evil. The game just paints him as a bit more gray than straight up black.
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Finished up with Maya's testimony, and we've crossed the 1000 line mark for trial day 2, and Apollo's passed the 2000 line mark for the case.

And we still have a ways to go. We're probably not even halfway done yet.
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Judge: Is there any proof that Justice Minister Inga was channeled?
Apollo: You bet there is!
Maya: Really?!
Judge: Well, now!
Phoenix: ...You're bluffing, I take it?
Apollo: ......I'll be fine!

I love how nonchalantly Phoenix just throws that out there.
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Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in III

can't even fit it all in a single text box
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LeonhartFour posted...

Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in III

can't even fit it all in a single text box

The best part of this gag is going to the Ace Attorney wikia and seeing this as the opening sentence.

Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in III, known simply as Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, was the Minister of Justice for the Kingdom of Khura'in.

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LeonhartFour posted...

Another instance of Inga maybe low-key not being quite as evil as he seems is the fact that he gave Maya all sorts of amenities, even as he held her captive. Also, when you examine his room, you can find a drawer full of unapproved execution papers, some dating back as far as five years, so perhaps a part of him didn't actually like sentencing people to death that he thought were innocent.

I mean don't get me wrong the dude was still evil. The game just paints him as a bit more gray than straight up black.

I usually use grey to describe doing bad things for a good (if misguided) reason, like the villain of Watchmen, or Jack Bauer, or Thanos (if you want to go there). From what we can tell, Inga was doing bad things for bad reasons (unless he was only planning the coup because he thought Gar'an (Ga'ran?) was a tyrant and not for personal gain - but you need to read pretty far beyond the text for that one).

He has a soft heart, but I don't think that makes him "grey" morally. I see niceness and evilness kind of orthogonal to each other in this case.
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Well, Rayfa believes he wanted the orb to help her get spiritual power so she could rule rather than trying to obtain it for himself. Of course, this is just Rayfa's rationalization, so she's not necessarily right.
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I mean since Inga doesn't have spiritual powers, he would have needed to be regent through Rayfa whether he loved her or not. So I think she's definitely right about that. The question is whether he actually loved her or whether he just saw her as a tool.
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I mean, he could've used the Founder's Orb to get spiritual power for himself. He didn't have to get it for Rayfa.
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ah, i definitely forgot the lore surrounding the f.o., then
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Huh, I thought Nayna was on the stand for longer than that before the Amara reveal.

also her rotating arms are so hypnotic
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LeonhartFour posted...

I mean, he could've used the Founder's Orb to get spiritual power for himself. He didn't have to get it for Rayfa.

That might not work because channeling a spirit is more than just spiritual power. Due to having prosopagnosia, Inga can't picture faces which is a necessary condition to be able to channel a spirit.
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Huh, I'd never really considered that before. That's interesting.

Although either way, we still don't know exactly what Inga was plotting with the Founder's Orb or his motives for doing so.
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Amara's lightning bolt scaring away all the animals is the spiritual successor to Dahlia's butterfly-incinerating glare

also for as inscrutable as Inga seems at times he ain't got nothin' on Amara
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oh man it's almost time for THAT moment

I still remember the exact moment I figured it out
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man that's super powerful stuff

never use that animation again

the transition from A Cornered Heart to Inherited Hopes to Dhurke's theme is really well done too
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"After that, Queen Amara must've dressed Ms. Fey in her usual outfit, and tied her up. I'm not sure where she got the outfit, but we can assume she had it all planned out."

thank you for lampshading the fact that there was clothes-changing going on to an absurd degree in order to make this murder cover-up work
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Apollo broke the record for most individual lines in a case and 6-5 broke the record for most overall lines for a case at pretty close to the same time.
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BANG

that seems like a good place to stop for the night
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Nothing to add, but yeah, that moment is so good.

Amara's stage presence is freaking amazing. I feel like she deserved a better role in the story than she got.
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Speaking of all this prosopagnosia stuff, I just finished a certain other visual novel. Namely Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - which handled it a lot better than SoJ did.
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I just remember being somewhat in denial as I uncovered the additional testimony and started deciphering what exactly the whole thing really meant, and as I scrolled through the evidence, I just had the bloodstain up for a minute, and then yelled, "fuck" when it clicked for me.

I also love how when you point out where Dhurke's corpse is, the cursor is already on the sarcophagus. Granted, that's because it's in the center of the room, but why waste that time getting to the obvious conclusion from there?
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bwburke94 posted...

Speaking of all this prosopagnosia stuff, I just finished a certain other visual novel. Namely Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - which handled it a lot better than SoJ did.

I mean it's more of a central plot point in that game than it is in SoJ
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It was because of that game that as soon as I saw Inga's seance, my immediate reaction was HE HAS PROSOPAGNOSIA
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I actually figured it out as soon as I found the notes with the physical descriptions of people in his room, mostly because of that game, although I'd heard of prosopagnosia even before that. I remember seeing a news story about a guy who had it once when I was growing up. I don't know that I would've initially believed it was even a real thing if not for that.
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As it is the 1st of September in Japan-
On this day, three years ago, Ace Attorney 6 was announced on Famitsu

I really want to believe they will announce something before TGS :(
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Time for the Nahyuta cross-examination

hopefully this is quick
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Whew, 6-5 complete.

I'll post numbers tomorrow sometime since it's late and I'm tired.
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After thinking it over, I've come to an interesting conclusion about Inga.

I don't think he had prosopagnosia. His disorder was something else.
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I mean that would be kind of a pointless twist considering the game outright says that's what he has
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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 22728
2. Miles Edgeworth - 15132
3. Apollo Justice - 10237
4. The Judge - 6767
5. Maya Fey - 4815
6. Athena Cykes - 4762
7. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
8. Kay Faraday - 3370
9. Trucy Wright - 2612
10. Franziska von Karma - 2314
11. Ema Skye - 2310
12. Mia Fey - 1418
13. Pearl Fey - 1281
14. Simon Blackquill - 1280
15. Klavier Gavin - 1154
16. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
17. Justine Courtney - 1016
18. Larry Butz - 1008
19. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 988
20. Raymond Shields - 971
21. Godot - 902
22. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 892
23. Khura'in Judge - 754
24. Bobby Fulbright - 700
25. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
26. Lotta Hart - 648
27. Tyrell Badd - 593
28. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
29. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 562
30. Wendy Oldbag - 553
31. Sebastian Debeste - 521
32. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
33. Adrian Andrews - 459
34. Winston Payne - 453
35. Manfred von Karma - 444
36. The Judge's Brother - 421
37. Shelly de Killer - 387
38. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 386
39. Datz Are'bal - 381
40. Will Powers - 380
41. Simon Keyes - 380
42. Bikini - 351
43. Gaspen Payne - 335
44. Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in - 329
45. Maggey Byrde - 323
46. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
47. Kristoph Gavin - 319
48. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 319
49. Quercus Alba - 303
50. Valant Gramarye - 298
51. Luke Atmey - 292
52. Damon Gant - 285
53. Juniper Woods - 277
54. Ini Miney - 275
55. Angel Starr - 272
56. Ron DeLite - 271
57. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
58. Katherine Hall - 267
59. Blaise Debeste - 265
60. Regina Berry - 261
61. Jake Marshall - 257
62. Jean Armstrong - 251
63. Nicole Swift - 250
64. Lana Skye - 249
65. Victor Kudo - 247
66. Mike Meekins - 235
67. Marvin Grossberg - 234
68. Jacques Portsman - 231
69. Spark Brushel - 230
70. Frank Sahwit - 219
71. Alita Tiala - 219
72. Hugh O'Conner - 218
73. Marlon Rimes - 217
74. Patricia Roland - 217
75. Daryan Crescend - 216
76. Dane Gustavia - 209
77. Horace Knightley - 209
78. Florent L'Belle - 208
79. Maximillion Galactica - 203
80. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
81. Yuri Cosmos - 199
82. Sasha Buckler - 198
83. Penny Nichols - 194
84. Phineas Filch - 192
85. Jinxie Tenma - 191
86. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187
87. Uendo Toneido (Combined) - 186
88. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182
89. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
90. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
91. Iris - 181
92. Herman Crab - 180
93. Damian Tenma - 179
94. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
95. Furio Tigre - 176
96. Zak Gramarye - 174
97. Matt Engarde - 171
98. Sirhan Dogen - 170
99. Cammy Meele - 168
100. Morgan Fey - 165
101. Redd White - 162
102. Betty de Famme - 158
103. Aristotle Means - 154
104. Solomon Starbuck - 154
105. John Marsh - 153
106. Robin Newman - 153
107. Delicia Scones - 151
108. Colias Palaeno - 150
109. Dee Vasquez - 148
110. Zinc Lablanc - 146
111. Desiree DeLite - 142
112. Ted Tonate - 141
113. Trilo Quist - 140
114. Wesley Stickler - 138
115. Cody Hackins - 135
116. Norma DePlume - 134
117. Olga Orly - 131
118. Lauren Paups - 130
119. Tahrust Inmee - 130
120. Karin Jenson - 129
121. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
122. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 123
123. Aura Blackquill - 122
124. Guy Eldoon - 118
125. Bonny de Famme - 113
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Next marathon are you going to count how many letters each one has?
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126. Wocky Kitaki - 112
127. Di-Jun Huang - 110
128. Geiru Toneido - 108
129. The Phantom - 107
130. Richard Wellington - 107
131. April May - 104
132. Uendo Toneido - 104
133. Vera Misham - 104
134. Jay Elbird - 102
135. Yanni Yogi - 98
136. Beh'leeb Inmee - 92
137. Lance Amano - 92
138. Jeff Master - 90
139. Viola Cadaverini - 80
140. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
141. Plum Kitaki - 76
142. Terry Fawles - 74
143. Drew Misham - 74
144. The Bellboy - 72
145. Ernest Amano - 68
146. Ponco - 66
147. Benjamin Woodman - 60
148. Sal Manella - 59
149. Chief of Detectives - 55
150. Bonnie Young - 53
151. Patches - 50
152. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 46
153. Kisegawa - 46
154. Lisa Basil - 46
155. Clonco - 43
156. Widget - 42
157. Machi Tobaye - 41
158. Orla Shipley - 40
159. Bucky Whet - 39
160. Turner Grey - 39
161. Elise Deauxnim - 30
162. Owen - 26
163. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 22
164. Shah'do - 21
165. Missile - 20
166. Polly - 20
167. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
168. Romein LeTouse - 13
169. Taka - 10

Overall total lines - 121500

Total lines by segment:

6-5 Trial Day 2 - 2343
6-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1907
6-5 Investigation Day 1 - 1340
6-5 Trial Day 1 - 1132

Total lines by case:

6-5 - 6722
2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
6-3 - 3979
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
5-2 - 3750
5-6 - 3616
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
5-3 - 3202
2-2 - 3119
6-2 - 2987
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
5-5 - 2550
E1-3 - 2412
5-4 - 2018
E1-2 - 1995
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
6-4 - 1650
4-1 - 1421
6-1 - 1362
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
5-1 - 1102
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

AAI2 - 17463
SoJ - 16700
T&T - 16422
DD - 16238
PW1 - 14282
JFA - 13848
AJ - 13335
AAI1 - 13212

Total lines by character per case:

Turnabout Revolution (6-5)

1. Apollo Justice - 2482 (36.92%)
2. Phoenix Wright - 767 (11.41%)
3. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 561 (8.35%)
4. Athena Cykes - 355 (5.28%)
5. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 338 (5.03%)
6. Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in - 324 (4.82%)
7. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 242 (3.60%)
8. Khura'in Judge - 213 (3.17%)
9. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187 (2.78%)
10. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182 (2.71%)
11. Ema Skye - 152
12. Datz Are'bal - 131
13. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
14. Trucy Wright - 118
15. Other - 116
16. Miles Edgeworth - 109
17. The Judge - 101
18. Maya Fey - 71
19. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 52
20. Pearl Fey - 51
21. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 12
22. Shah'do - 8
23. Beh'leeb Inmee - 5
24. Lamiroir - 4
25. Widget - 3
26. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 3
27. Betty de Famme - 2
28. Bonny de Famme - 2
29. Simon Blackquill - 2
30. Uendo Toneido - 2
31. Archie Buff - 1
32. Bucky Whet - 1
33. Patches - 1
34. Kisegawa - 1
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Total lines by character per game:

Spirit of Justice

1. Apollo Justice - 3652
2. Phoenix Wright - 3028
3. Athena Cykes - 1508
4. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 988
5. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 892
6. Khura'in Judge - 754
7. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 562
8. The Judge - 460
9. Ema Skye - 413
10. Datz Are'bal 380
11. Maya Fey - 371
12. Trucy Wright - 339
13. Ga'ran Sigatar Khur'ain - 329
14. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 319
15. Other - 288
16. Simon Blackquill - 258
17. Datz Are'bal - 249
18. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187
19. Uendo Toneido (Combined) - 186
20. Gaspen Payne - 184
21. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182
22. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
23. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
24. Betty de Famme - 158
25. Tahrust Inmee - 130
26. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
27. Bonny de Famme - 113
28. Miles Edgeworth - 109
29. Geiru Toneido - 108
30. Uendo Toneido - 104
31. Beh'leeb Inmee - 92
32. Pearl Fey - 51
33. Patches - 50
34. Inga Karhuul Khura'in - 46
35. Kisegawa - 46
36. Bucky Whet - 39
37. Owen - 26
38. Shah'do - 21
39. Widget - 15
40. Manov Mistree - 5
41. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 4
42. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 3
43. Archie Buff - 1
44. Taifu Toneido - 1
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I must have seriously forgotten like about 250 rayfa lines there, I have NO idea how I managed to do that

Yeah, she has a pretty big role on day 2. She has two Divination Seances and a normal testimony on top of that.
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6-6 time

the fact that Larry references Phoenix's "career" as a pianist means they must have kept in touch to some degree during those seven years
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I don't know what it is but I love Larry's animations when he's wearing the pink sunglasses and the fake mustache, and has the bubble pipe in his mouth.
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LeonhartFour posted...

6-6 time

the fact that Larry references Phoenix's "career" as a pianist means they must have kept in touch to some degree during those seven years

I don't think one can just fall out of touch with Larry. He's like a scar from when you crashed your bike at age seven. He's completely harmless, but he's permanent and a reminder of the most painful memory of your childhood.
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Investigating the office with Maya is so great.
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Phoenix mentions "the hotel next door" at one point, so I still wonder if the WAA is in the same place the old Wright & Co. Law Offices were.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Phoenix mentions "the hotel next door" at one point, so I still wonder if the WAA is in the same place the old Wright & Co. Law Offices were.

Probably just a translation gaffe, because the office sure looks like same from the previous games.
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I mean, we only ever see two rooms each of Wright & Co. and WAA, so who knows. The thing that throws me off is that the map they show in 4-2 doesn't make it seem like it's still beside the Gatewater.
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6-6's pacing is interesting because it's more like the OT (well, at least JFA and T&T) than DD and SoJ. It's a fairly brisk cace by their standards (comparable to 3-2 and 3-3 in length), and it features the shortest single segment in either of those games (trial day 1). It's also the only case in SoJ that is two trial days for the same murder in the game. It makes sense since it's a throwback to the OT overall with Phoenix, Maya, Edgeworth, and Larry all being together again.
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I've nominated Phoenix and Godot
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I nominated Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Godot.
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I nominated Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Apollo.
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People talk about Ellen's long animations, but at least she's got diversity. Sorin's paper airplane one is the worst.
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I hate pretty much all the new characters in 6-6, solely for the animations.
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"Time travelers do exist. You wouldn't understand though."

it's a great foreshadowing line for Sorin
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