Poll of the Day > GW2: Another example of "Get Woke, Go Broke" RIP Jessica Price

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Golden Road 07/08/18 8:26:14 PM #51:	Joker_X_II posted... Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all? Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:904726478] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all?</quote> Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TallTamryu 07/08/18 8:56:42 PM #52:	Revelation34 posted... Nah good. He wasn't a good person. Of course he was. --- "Guys don't treat girls right, that's why the lesbian rate's going up" <cite>TallTamryu posted [p:904728092] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah good. He wasn't a good person.</quote> Of course he was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/08/18 8:57:49 PM #53:	TallTamryu posted... Of course he was. Good people totally tell people to get cancer and die. They also create witch hunts over a dumb meme joke. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904728139] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TallTamryu posted...</cite> <quote>Of course he was.</quote> Good people totally tell people to get cancer and die. They also create witch hunts over a dumb meme joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/08/18 10:18:53 PM #54:	wah wah wah, he was mean so he was a bad guy --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904732424] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>wah wah wah, he was mean so he was a bad guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/08/18 10:22:28 PM #55:	VeeVees posted... wah wah wah, he was mean so he was a bad guy Yeah he was totally a good person like everybody says. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904732645] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>wah wah wah, he was mean so he was a bad guy</quote> Yeah he was totally a good person like everybody says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/08/18 10:29:32 PM #56:	may be find a better example of him being a bad guy than he was mean on twitter and kicked a moron from a con for stupid memes --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904733064] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>may be find a better example of him being a bad guy than he was mean on twitter and kicked a moron from a con for stupid memes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/08/18 10:36:29 PM #57:	VeeVees posted... may be find a better example of him being a bad guy than he was mean on twitter and kicked a moron from a con for stupid memes Lol. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904733477] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>may be find a better example of him being a bad guy than he was mean on twitter and kicked a moron from a con for stupid memes</quote> Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/08/18 10:37:29 PM #58:	^typical --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904733551] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>^typical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/08/18 10:40:26 PM #59:	Good lord, just read some of the reactionary propaganda criticizing the firing which, unsurprisingly, provides zero content regarding the tweets themselves and just tells the story from Price's narrative. https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/guild-wars-2-writer-jessica-price-developers-speak-out/ Revelation34 posted... Zeus posted... Wanted to post a vid of a guy saying "Collateral damage," but couldn't immediately find one (and can't remember the movie where a character callously uses those words to answer a question about somebody else being hurt in an attack). However, his defense, while small, was extremely tone-deaf and unprofessional. He got caught up in a controversy because he deliberately inserted himself into the controversy in a provocatively stupid way. He said one thing which wasn't bad at all. Him getting fired was moronic. Him posting what he posted was moronic. Him getting fired for it because he chose to involve himself in the stupidest way possible could be seen as a little overboard, but he had made himself into a PR disaster. Revelation34 posted... Because companies are full of morons that think something a person did off their time is grounds for firing. Like the Chick-fil-A guy when it has no actual bearing on the company. Bad press can have a direct impact on your company, especially when you're identifying yourself in relation to not just your company but a company in the entertainment industry. As for Chik-fil-A guy, his douchebaggery had less of a connection to his job although it's kinda hard to feel bad for an asshole taping themselves berating a fast food employee and then choosing to upload that footage. And this isn't really a new phenomenon, it's just been updated for the internet age. You've always had at least some repercussions for egregious off-the-job conduct. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:904733715] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Good lord, just read some of the reactionary propaganda criticizing the firing which, unsurprisingly, provides zero content regarding the tweets themselves and just tells the story from Price's narrative. https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/guild-wars-2-writer-jessica-price-developers-speak-out/ <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Wanted to post a vid of a guy saying "Collateral damage," but couldn't immediately find one (and can't remember the movie where a character callously uses those words to answer a question about somebody else being hurt in an attack). However, his defense, while small, was extremely tone-deaf and unprofessional. He got caught up in a controversy because he deliberately inserted himself into the controversy in a provocatively stupid way. </quote> He said one thing which wasn't bad at all. Him getting fired was moronic.</quote> Him posting what he posted was moronic. Him getting fired for it because he chose to involve himself in the stupidest way possible could be seen as a little overboard, but he had made himself into a PR disaster. <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Because companies are full of morons that think something a person did off their time is grounds for firing. Like the Chick-fil-A guy when it has no actual bearing on the company.</quote> Bad press can have a direct impact on your company, especially when you're identifying yourself in relation to not just your company but a company in the entertainment industry. As for Chik-fil-A guy, his douchebaggery had less of a connection to his job although it's kinda hard to feel bad for an asshole taping themselves berating a fast food employee and then choosing to upload that footage. And this isn't really a new phenomenon, it's just been updated for the internet age. You've always had at least some repercussions for egregious off-the-job conduct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/08/18 10:40:33 PM #60:	Golden Road posted... Joker_X_II posted... Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all? Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated. I'll take painfully non-self-aware hypocrisy for $100, Alex. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:904733723] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all?</quote> Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated.</quote> I'll take painfully non-self-aware hypocrisy for $100, Alex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 07/08/18 11:00:19 PM #61:	Golden Road posted... Joker_X_II posted... Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all? Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated. By this logic, anything could be fabricated to something. We could talk about the weather, and you could start listing off how many microaggressions you spotted about how I noticed a cloud in the sky. Now if you actually read the actual conversation between Price and Denior, youd know nothing was said about gender issues...at all.... nothing was implied, there was no misunderstanding, there were no oppression of the patriarchy..... And that Price has a very bad reputation (as Ive learned going deeper into the story, and who she is) for constantly pulling the gender card when things dont go her way. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:904734851] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>Who (in the gaming industry, at least) would hire someone who easily flies off the handle, and cries "misogyny" at anyone who disagrees with her, even if the topic had nothing to do with identity politics at all?</quote> Something doesn't have to be explicitly stated for a conversation to be about something. If you walk into a conversation blathering on without really understanding the topic, you send the message that you're either an asshole or an idiot. Or both. You send this message even if it's not explicitly stated.</quote> By this logic, anything could be fabricated to something. We could talk about the weather, and you could start listing off how many microaggressions you spotted about how I noticed a cloud in the sky. Now if you actually read the actual conversation between Price and Denior, youd know nothing was said about gender issues...at all.... nothing was implied, there was no misunderstanding, there were no oppression of the patriarchy..... And that Price has a very bad reputation (as Ive learned going deeper into the story, and who she is) for constantly pulling the gender card when things dont go her way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrndNhbrHdCEman 07/08/18 11:04:21 PM #62:	Blighboy posted... I have a bigger penis than NMB Dayum. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK <cite>FrndNhbrHdCEman posted [p:904735082] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote>I have a bigger penis than NMB</quote> Dayum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/09/18 12:01:06 AM #63:	VeeVees posted... ^typical Nope. You actually think those things make a person good. There was definitely nothing wrong with the meme joke. He literally asked for people to hunt the guy down and find his information out. Zeus posted... Him posting what he posted was moronic. Him getting fired for it because he chose to involve himself in the stupidest way possible could be seen as a little overboard, but he had made himself into a PR disaster. He said 1 thing. That's it. One good thing for him is he doesn't have to deal with a moron for a boss anymore I guess. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904737835] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>^typical</quote> Nope. You actually think those things make a person good. There was definitely nothing wrong with the meme joke. He literally asked for people to hunt the guy down and find his information out. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Him posting what he posted was moronic. Him getting fired for it because he chose to involve himself in the stupidest way possible could be seen as a little overboard, but he had made himself into a PR disaster. </quote> He said 1 thing. That's it. One good thing for him is he doesn't have to deal with a moron for a boss anymore I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/09/18 12:06:20 AM #64:	^yes, typical --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904738094] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>^yes, typical</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/09/18 12:09:30 AM #65:	VeeVees posted... ^yes, typical Oh the irony of this post. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904738233] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>^yes, typical</quote> Oh the irony of this post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/09/18 12:10:20 AM #66:	lol --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904738271] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/09/18 6:55:35 AM #67:	VeeVees posted... lol I agree. Your posts are pretty funny. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904749112] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> I agree. Your posts are pretty funny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneWeStand 07/09/18 9:11:24 AM #68:	Putting something on SOCIAL MEDIA where it is open to public response and interpretation, and then responding with "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO THIS IS MY SPACE" is infantile and simply incorrect. Her coworkers said "she never asked for any feedback." Well too bad, homefry, she put it on twitter. She could have put it on a personal blog. She could even have a personal locked twitter that only accepts friends, family, but no this is a public twitter account. It's like standing on your front step and shouting your opinion to the neighborhood and someone on the sidewalk disagrees and you say "I DIDN'T ASK YOU. TYPICAL TO ATTACK FEMALES." But I also think people celebrating and dancing around like TC shrieking with joy waving their tendies in the air are just as bad. You're kind of proving her right from the "being harassed" standpoint. People who behave that way make others feel attacked and vulnerable and they might lash out in retaliation. --- FC: 0619-6147-7453 <cite>AloneWeStand posted [p:904752323] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Putting something on SOCIAL MEDIA where it is open to public response and interpretation, and then responding with "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO THIS IS MY SPACE" is infantile and simply incorrect. Her coworkers said "she never asked for any feedback." Well too bad, homefry, she put it on twitter. She could have put it on a personal blog. She could even have a personal locked twitter that only accepts friends, family, but no this is a public twitter account. It's like standing on your front step and shouting your opinion to the neighborhood and someone on the sidewalk disagrees and you say "I DIDN'T ASK YOU. TYPICAL TO ATTACK FEMALES." But I also think people celebrating and dancing around like TC shrieking with joy waving their tendies in the air are just as bad. You're kind of proving her right from the "being harassed" standpoint. People who behave that way make others feel attacked and vulnerable and they might lash out in retaliation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlazeAndBlade 07/09/18 10:39:44 AM #69:	pffff guild wars 1>>>>>>>>>>>> guild wars 2 plus guild wars 1 just got some nice new updates --- Having a goal is good, but don't let your goal depress you. Goals are meant to inspire. <cite>BlazeAndBlade posted [p:904755496] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>pffff guild wars 1>>>>>>>>>>>> guild wars 2 plus guild wars 1 just got some nice new updates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/09/18 12:03:25 PM #70:	remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904759148] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 07/09/18 12:15:32 PM #71:	i agree with my boy colin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZmUsOjChEs" data-time=" <cite>Aculo posted [p:904759759] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>i agree with my boy colin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZmUsOjChEs" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mofuji 07/09/18 12:22:23 PM #72:	FrisbeeDude posted... remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities Get some better bait. --- "Youkai is evil because Youaki is bad. And I'm gonna exterminate them." ~ Reimu Hakurei during the 2016 US Presidential Campaign <cite>Mofuji posted [p:904760152] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> Get some better bait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/09/18 12:26:13 PM #73:	Mofuji posted... FrisbeeDude posted... remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities Get some better bait. When they think they're clever, but just end up proving your point --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904760354] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mofuji posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> Get some better bait.</quote> When they think they're clever, but just end up proving your point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mofuji 07/09/18 12:30:21 PM #74:	FrisbeeDude posted... Mofuji posted... FrisbeeDude posted... remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities Get some better bait. When they think they're clever, but just end up proving your point Why yes, I did prove the point of your bait being awful. --- "Youkai is evil because Youaki is bad. And I'm gonna exterminate them." ~ Reimu Hakurei during the 2016 US Presidential Campaign <cite>Mofuji posted [p:904760586] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mofuji posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> Get some better bait.</quote> When they think they're clever, but just end up proving your point </quote> Why yes, I did prove the point of your bait being awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightengale 07/09/18 12:34:03 PM #75:	ParanoidObsessive posted... (and not just digitally masturbate themselves on Twitter) Oh so like what you do on here? --- Don't give up, skeleton! <cite>Nightengale posted [p:904760815] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>(and not just digitally masturbate themselves on Twitter)</quote> Oh so like what you do on here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackhrt 07/09/18 12:49:40 PM #76:	VeeVees posted... blackhrt posted... Andromicus posted... Jesus Christ I hate this culture war shit If we could even call it that. I like how TC is taking joy in peoples misery for some reason. why shouldn't people take joy in seeing bad people get punished? being a writer for a developer is several exits away from committing any crime (last I checked anyway). flying off the handle can happen to any of us, TC made it seem like she had it coming since she first learn to walk & talk. --- "I live my life 3 videogames at a time. Nothing else matters. Not the mortgage, not my clan and their BS. For those 3 games or less, I'm free." <cite>blackhrt posted [p:904761619] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>blackhrt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Andromicus posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus Christ I hate this culture war shit</quote> If we could even call it that. I like how TC is taking joy in peoples misery for some reason.</quote> why shouldn't people take joy in seeing bad people get punished?</quote> being a writer for a developer is several exits away from committing any crime (last I checked anyway). flying off the handle can happen to any of us, TC made it seem like she had it coming since she first learn to walk & talk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 07/09/18 1:11:01 PM #77:	Sensual_T_Rex posted... Geez your response is almost masturbatory in nature. I mean yeah she deserves to get fired and I agree screw identity politics but damn cut back the malicious glee. This is why prostitution should be legal poeple. We can't let those ladies be subjected to people like this. Their lives are hard enough. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:904762730] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sensual_T_Rex posted...</cite> <quote>Geez your response is almost masturbatory in nature. I mean yeah she deserves to get fired and I agree screw identity politics but damn cut back the malicious glee. This is why prostitution should be legal poeple.</quote> We can't let those ladies be subjected to people like this. Their lives are hard enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 07/09/18 1:12:41 PM #78:	She's not committing any crime, so she's not going to jail. She didn't fly off the handle. That is the kind of person she is. When things don't go her way she starts blaming everything on gender, like a standard sjw scumbag. People like her are damaging to gender equality. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:904762805] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>She's not committing any crime, so she's not going to jail. She didn't fly off the handle. That is the kind of person she is. When things don't go her way she starts blaming everything on gender, like a standard sjw scumbag. People like her are damaging to gender equality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/09/18 3:52:10 PM #79:	AloneWeStand posted... Putting something on SOCIAL MEDIA where it is open to public response and interpretation, and then responding with "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO THIS IS MY SPACE" is infantile and simply incorrect. Her coworkers said "she never asked for any feedback." Well too bad, homefry, she put it on twitter. She could have put it on a personal blog. She could even have a personal locked twitter that only accepts friends, family, but no this is a public twitter account. It's like standing on your front step and shouting your opinion to the neighborhood and someone on the sidewalk disagrees and you say "I DIDN'T ASK YOU. TYPICAL TO ATTACK FEMALES." But I also think people celebrating and dancing around like TC shrieking with joy waving their tendies in the air are just as bad. You're kind of proving her right from the "being harassed" standpoint. People who behave that way make others feel attacked and vulnerable and they might lash out in retaliation. Yes and that's all the guy said so he shouldn't have been fired. FrisbeeDude posted... One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time=" --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904771703] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>AloneWeStand posted...</cite> <quote>Putting something on SOCIAL MEDIA where it is open to public response and interpretation, and then responding with "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO THIS IS MY SPACE" is infantile and simply incorrect. Her coworkers said "she never asked for any feedback." Well too bad, homefry, she put it on twitter. She could have put it on a personal blog. She could even have a personal locked twitter that only accepts friends, family, but no this is a public twitter account. It's like standing on your front step and shouting your opinion to the neighborhood and someone on the sidewalk disagrees and you say "I DIDN'T ASK YOU. TYPICAL TO ATTACK FEMALES." But I also think people celebrating and dancing around like TC shrieking with joy waving their tendies in the air are just as bad. You're kind of proving her right from the "being harassed" standpoint. People who behave that way make others feel attacked and vulnerable and they might lash out in retaliation.</quote> Yes and that's all the guy said so he shouldn't have been fired. <cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 07/09/18 5:22:03 PM #80:	I guess the guy shouldn't be fired cuz all he did was White Knight <cite>dioxxys posted [p:904776666] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>I guess the guy shouldn't be fired cuz all he did was White Knight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 07/09/18 5:55:21 PM #81:	dioxxys posted... I guess the guy shouldn't be fired cuz all he did was White Knight Well, he might not be 100% at fault, but he did play his role of being a male-feminist judenrat.... --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:904778446] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>I guess the guy shouldn't be fired cuz all he did was White Knight</quote> Well, he might not be 100% at fault, but he did play his role of being a male-feminist judenrat....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/11/18 8:47:34 PM #82:	https://twitter.com/Delafina777?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor She posted something finally. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904913430] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Delafina777?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor She posted something finally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 07/11/18 9:16:29 PM #83:	And their silence in condemning the harassment is profoundly telling. So what is this saying? She knows she was being a bitch, but still expects a free-pass because of Anet's policies? --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:904915067] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>And their silence in condemning the harassment is profoundly telling. So what is this saying? She knows she was being a bitch, but still expects a free-pass because of Anet's policies?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/11/18 9:58:27 PM #84:	It's funny watching gaming publications rally their wagons around Price and decry the community -- questioning if the aggrieved are gamers at all -- when these same publications gave credence and legitimacy to military non-gaming feminists who were attacking the industry and the community. Small wonder why traditional video game journalism -- which has at times been shown to be literally in bed with the industry -- has been losing ground in recent years. FrisbeeDude posted... remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:904917324] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>It's funny watching gaming publications rally their wagons around Price and decry the community -- questioning if the aggrieved are gamers at all -- when these same publications gave credence and legitimacy to military non-gaming feminists who were attacking the industry and the community. Small wonder why traditional video game journalism -- which has at times been shown to be literally in bed with the industry -- has been losing ground in recent years. <cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real! The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_Frog 07/11/18 10:32:15 PM #85:	Joker_X_II posted... And their silence in condemning the harassment is profoundly telling. So what is this saying? She knows she was being a bitch, but still expects a free-pass because of Anet's policies? It means she has no choice but to double down on her victim card, because if she just admitted to being a dipshit her career would be in irreparable shambles. At this rate she could still get picked up by some virtue signaling indie studio. <cite>Red_Frog posted [p:904919252] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>And their silence in condemning the harassment is profoundly telling. So what is this saying? She knows she was being a bitch, but still expects a free-pass because of Anet's policies?</quote> It means she has no choice but to double down on her victim card, because if she just admitted to being a dipshit her career would be in irreparable shambles. At this rate she could still get picked up by some virtue signaling indie studio.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 07/11/18 10:57:30 PM #86:	Thanks, now I want to play GW2, ok? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:904920547] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Thanks, now I want to play GW2, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 07/12/18 12:08:44 AM #87:	I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:904923871] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amuseum 07/12/18 4:38:45 AM #88:	it would be suicidal to hire women, for fear that as a male boss, you could be charged with mansplaining to female colleagues. male teachers and tutors could be charged with mansplaining to female students. a father would not dare mansplain to his daughters. --- Ergonomic keyboard layouts for Android https://goo.gl/KR1vK6 5-suited Draw Poker for Android http://goo.gl/KhmXi <cite>Amuseum posted [p:904931051] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>it would be suicidal to hire women, for fear that as a male boss, you could be charged with mansplaining to female colleagues. male teachers and tutors could be charged with mansplaining to female students. a father would not dare mansplain to his daughters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 10:51:39 AM #89:	Guild Wars has writing? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904941808] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Guild Wars has writing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 07/12/18 2:05:12 PM #90:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner. Except Prices views arent civil at all. As said before there is good activism if the cause is noble, and there is a time and place to excerise those views, and then the bad activism that choose to piggy-back on that noble cause for their own person gain....and is a total bitch about it. Nothing wrong with (First-wave) Feminsm because its simply about garnering a state of equality for opportunity. But when you are abusing that notion as a get out of jail card, because you dont want to lose a covseration, or simply dont want to be humbled, that is where identity politics flys civility right out the window. In short Price was fired because of her self-entitled views, which lack civility. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:904952238] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner.</quote> Except Prices views arent civil at all. As said before there is good activism if the cause is noble, and there is a time and place to excerise those views, and then the bad activism that choose to piggy-back on that noble cause for their own person gain....and is a total bitch about it. Nothing wrong with (First-wave) Feminsm because its simply about garnering a state of equality for opportunity. But when you are abusing that notion as a get out of jail card, because you dont want to lose a covseration, or simply dont want to be humbled, that is where identity politics flys civility right out the window. In short Price was fired because of her self-entitled views, which lack civility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/12/18 2:19:43 PM #91:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner. She, not they. He did absolutely nothing. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:904953082] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>I'm thinking they were fired not because of their views, but because they were unable to express their views in a civil manner.</quote> She, not they. He did absolutely nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 07/13/18 5:40:13 PM #92:	Joker_X_II posted... Except Prices views arent civil at all. I don't know the full details. From the video in the first post it seems her remarks were well received and discussion was respectful until she demonstrated that she was unable to tolerate a different perspective. Revelation34 posted... She, not they. He did absolutely nothing. Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:905025458] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Joker_X_II posted...</cite> <quote>Except Prices views arent civil at all.</quote> I don't know the full details. From the video in the first post it seems her remarks were well received and discussion was respectful until she demonstrated that she was unable to tolerate a different perspective. <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>She, not they. He did absolutely nothing.</quote> Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/13/18 5:43:58 PM #93:	SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so. Yet he said nothing wrong. The company was dumb for firing him. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:905025679] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so.</quote> Yet he said nothing wrong. The company was dumb for firing him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 07/13/18 6:23:13 PM #94:	Revelation34 posted... SKARDAVNELNATE posted... Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so. Yet he said nothing wrong. The company was dumb for firing him. He said something wrong. It just wasn't as wrong as anything she said, and arguably wasn't wrong enough to justify firing. But it was wrong enough, at precisely the wrong time, in the wrong situation, to lead to him getting equally fucked. The real problem is that she created the firestorm and was justifiably burned by it, but he jumped into a situation that was already catching fire, and got burned by his own ill-thought out action. Had his specific comment been more defensible even by the detractors (in a "I disagree but acknowledge your logic" sort of way, rather than a "you're blatantly wrong and defending a repugnant lunatic" sort of way), or had the situation been less volatile, he likely would have survived it. As is, he picked up a stick of live dynamite, and it's not surprising that it blew his hand off. Ultimately, the fair thing in this scenario would be if he could at least get rehired elsewhere with little to no blowback from the Internet, while she should never be hired by any company with even a pretense of public relations or audience interaction until she at least demonstrates that she understands what she did wrong and honestly regrets her actions (which she will almost certainly never, ever do). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:905027763] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted...</cite> <quote>Except he defend her, and he thought twitter was a private forum. Clearly the company didn't want Peter Fries to represent them in the public space as a result of doing so.</quote> Yet he said nothing wrong. The company was dumb for firing him.</quote> He said something wrong. It just wasn't as wrong as anything she said, and arguably wasn't wrong enough to justify firing. But it was wrong enough, at precisely the wrong time, in the wrong situation, to lead to him getting equally fucked. The real problem is that she created the firestorm and was justifiably burned by it, but he jumped into a situation that was already catching fire, and got burned by his own ill-thought out action. Had his specific comment been more defensible even by the detractors (in a "I disagree but acknowledge your logic" sort of way, rather than a "you're blatantly wrong and defending a repugnant lunatic" sort of way), or had the situation been less volatile, he likely would have survived it. As is, he picked up a stick of live dynamite, and it's not surprising that it blew his hand off. Ultimately, the fair thing in this scenario would be if he could at least get rehired elsewhere with little to no blowback from the Internet, while she should never be hired by any company with even a pretense of public relations or audience interaction until she at least demonstrates that she understands what she did wrong and honestly regrets her actions (which she will almost certainly never, ever do). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 07/13/18 6:30:56 PM #95:	Reminder that PEW NEWS is the most fair and neutral news source on the internet. (10:14 for the ArenaNet incident) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9XVVW7G_Fg" data-time="&start=4 --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:905028132] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Reminder that PEW NEWS is the most fair and neutral news source on the internet. (10:14 for the ArenaNet incident) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9XVVW7G_Fg" data-time="&start=4</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 07/13/18 6:38:40 PM #96:	ParanoidObsessive posted... He said something wrong. It just wasn't as wrong as anything she said, and arguably wasn't wrong enough to justify firing. But it was wrong enough, at precisely the wrong time, in the wrong situation, to lead to him getting equally fucked. The real problem is that she created the firestorm and was justifiably burned by it, but he jumped into a situation that was already catching fire, and got burned by his own ill-thought out action. Had his specific comment been more defensible even by the detractors (in a "I disagree but acknowledge your logic" sort of way, rather than a "you're blatantly wrong and defending a repugnant lunatic" sort of way), or had the situation been less volatile, he likely would have survived it. As is, he picked up a stick of live dynamite, and it's not surprising that it blew his hand off. Ultimately, the fair thing in this scenario would be if he could at least get rehired elsewhere with little to no blowback from the Internet, while she should never be hired by any company with even a pretense of public relations or audience interaction until she at least demonstrates that she understands what she did wrong and honestly regrets her actions (which she will almost certainly never, ever do). No he didn't. Not one bit was what he said bad. He just had a moron as a boss. With her everything was completely different. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:905028540] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>He said something wrong. It just wasn't as wrong as anything she said, and arguably wasn't wrong enough to justify firing. But it was wrong enough, at precisely the wrong time, in the wrong situation, to lead to him getting equally fucked. The real problem is that she created the firestorm and was justifiably burned by it, but he jumped into a situation that was already catching fire, and got burned by his own ill-thought out action. Had his specific comment been more defensible even by the detractors (in a "I disagree but acknowledge your logic" sort of way, rather than a "you're blatantly wrong and defending a repugnant lunatic" sort of way), or had the situation been less volatile, he likely would have survived it. As is, he picked up a stick of live dynamite, and it's not surprising that it blew his hand off. Ultimately, the fair thing in this scenario would be if he could at least get rehired elsewhere with little to no blowback from the Internet, while she should never be hired by any company with even a pretense of public relations or audience interaction until she at least demonstrates that she understands what she did wrong and honestly regrets her actions (which she will almost certainly never, ever do).</quote> No he didn't. Not one bit was what he said bad. He just had a moron as a boss. With her everything was completely different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 07/13/18 7:01:10 PM #97:	Revelation34 posted... No he didn't. Not one bit was what he said bad. No, but 100% of what he said was factually wrong, at a time he really shouldn't have been saying it. That's what hurt him more than anything. He stepped into a situation that didn't concern him, and it blew up in his face. In and of itself, without context and completely isolated from all other factors, no, what he said wasn't really worth firing. But in context, it helped exacerbate the situation and made him a target, while the other person involved was/is constantly throwing gasoline on to an already blazing fire and screaming her own self-perceived martyrdom. There is literally no way he was walking away from this unscathed. And honestly, there's no real way he could have walked away from it unscathed without hurting the company's public image. He was doomed the moment he posted that message, and it's very much a "fair, next" situation. I've said this before, and I'll say it again - if people don't like the idea that one stray thought or comment can destroy their entire life as the masses turn against them for it, they need to stay the fuck off Twitter. Like it or not, there is an implicit responsibility and acceptance of potential consequences when you post publicly on social media, especially when you do so in a capacity that reflects upon your employer. And yes, that employer is absolutely justified in cutting you the fuck loose if your own behavior has made you a PR liability in a business that is like 90% PR-driven. If he'd posted as "Peter Fries, private individual" he probably would have been fine. But he posted as "Peter Fries, Guild Wars writer" (while she herself was creating the firestorm as "Jessica Price, Guild Wars writer", he was effectively representing the company in a public space. Perhaps next time, he'll think harder before throwing himself on the grenade for someone causing a massive PR shitstorm almost entirely by her own actions. It will be valuable life experience for his next job. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:905029692] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>No he didn't. Not one bit was what he said bad.</quote> No, but 100% of what he said was factually wrong, at a time he really shouldn't have been saying it. That's what hurt him more than anything. He stepped into a situation that didn't concern him, and it blew up in his face. In and of itself, without context and completely isolated from all other factors, no, what he said wasn't really worth firing. But in context, it helped exacerbate the situation and made him a target, while the other person involved was/is constantly throwing gasoline on to an already blazing fire and screaming her own self-perceived martyrdom. There is literally no way he was walking away from this unscathed. And honestly, there's no real way he could have walked away from it unscathed without hurting the company's public image. He was doomed the moment he posted that message, and it's very much a "fair, next" situation. I've said this before, and I'll say it again - if people don't like the idea that one stray thought or comment can destroy their entire life as the masses turn against them for it, they need to stay the fuck off Twitter. Like it or not, there is an implicit responsibility and acceptance of potential consequences when you post publicly on social media, especially when you do so in a capacity that reflects upon your employer. And yes, that employer is absolutely justified in cutting you the fuck loose if your own behavior has made you a PR liability in a business that is like 90% PR-driven. If he'd posted as "Peter Fries, private individual" he probably would have been fine. But he posted as "Peter Fries, Guild Wars writer" (while she herself was creating the firestorm as "Jessica Price, Guild Wars writer", he was effectively representing the company in a public space. Perhaps next time, he'll think harder before throwing himself on the grenade for someone causing a massive PR shitstorm almost entirely by her own actions. It will be valuable life experience for his next job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 07/13/18 7:05:11 PM #98:	Incidentally, he was fully aware that he fucked up (unlike her). Because he went back and deleted the Tweet in question, whereas she's done nothing but double down on her initial explosion. He tried to fix things, she's only continued to constantly make them worse. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:905029890] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>Incidentally, he was fully aware that he fucked up (unlike her). Because he went back and deleted the Tweet in question, whereas she's done nothing but double down on her initial explosion. He tried to fix things, she's only continued to constantly make them worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 07/13/18 7:11:54 PM #99:	When you have your company info listed and go on social media you are a representative of that company. You literally sign a code of conduct to behave like a proper adult if it's listed. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:905030213] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote>When you have your company info listed and go on social media you are a representative of that company. You literally sign a code of conduct to behave like a proper adult if it's listed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil69Leo 07/13/18 7:12:42 PM #100:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Incidentally, he was fully aware that he fucked up (unlike her). Because he went back and deleted the Tweet in question, whereas she's done nothing but double down on her initial explosion. He tried to fix things, she's only continued to constantly make them worse. MAH VICTIM COMPLEX. I love how much she is doubling down. She did admit it wasn't misogynistic which was funny. <cite>Lil69Leo posted [p:905030248] in GW2: Anoth... [t:76785963]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Incidentally, he was fully aware that he fucked up (unlike her). Because he went back and deleted the Tweet in question, whereas she's done nothing but double down on her initial explosion. He tried to fix things, she's only continued to constantly make them worse. </quote> MAH VICTIM COMPLEX. I love how much she is doubling down. She did admit it wasn't misogynistic which was funny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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