Poll of the Day > Should anti-cheating laws be legalized?

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What an evasive way of posing the question.
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Just because something is immoral, does not mean it has to be illegal.
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Yes, I freaking hate hackers

It should definitely be taken into account when it comes to alimony and deciding parental rights.
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Divorce is the mildest form of revenge. Even the winning party doesn't necessarily get any satisfaction out of it.

Beating the shit out of the third party is more cathartic but the law won't protect that either.
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Any country that values morals would impose heavy punishments for cheating when married. The west doesn't seem to value these, and tends to let women cheat and even profit from it. This is what male feminists have done to a country. If you have fathers, brothers, or male friends- this is the sort of family life you're leading them towards.
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No, complete waste of tax dollars.
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Solid Sonic posted...

Divorce is the mildest form of revenge. Even the winning party doesn't necessarily get any satisfaction out of it.

Beating the shit out of the third party is more cathartic but the law won't protect that either.

Why beat the shit out of the third party, when your spouse is the scummy shitheel who's going looking for strange p---- behind your back?

Better to just beat the shit out of your significant other.


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For real ?? Americans have nothing else to spend money on ?

Solid Sonic posted...

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Nope. Although I'm against cheating in some cases I can understand.
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Anyone who cheats should lose parental rights and have no chance at alimony. They ate unfit parents
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My_Unit posted...

They ate unfit parents

Wounder what they tasted like.
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wwinterj25 posted...

My_Unit posted...

They ate unfit parents

Wounder what they tasted like.

Like a cheatah
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No jail or prison time but definitely a fine of some short.
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Cheating is one of the most evil things on this planet to me and it fucking ENRAGES me but I'm still not stupid enough to think the government should have any say in people's sex lives. Legal adults and consensual, not the law's business. It's no more their business if someone cheats than it is if someone likes to poop on their lover. Can't have the government dictating sex.
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this is weak bait
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Not criminal, but it should always be a strong factor in the divorce proceedings. It's a major contract violation and should be treated as such.

There is already penalties.

When the divorce comes the person who was cheated on gets a whole lot of favor in the courts.

Grendel posted...

Not criminal, but it should always be a strong factor in the divorce proceedings. It's a major contract violation and should be treated as such.

I wouldn't even call it a contract violation in most cases. The actual marriage license, which is usually the only thing that matters, doesn't make any promises. You don't swear to do anything or uphold anything.

Although of course you can get very very specific in a pre-nup.
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Marriage should be illegal

Moonjay posted...

Grendel posted...

Not criminal, but it should always be a strong factor in the divorce proceedings. It's a major contract violation and should be treated as such.

I wouldn't even call it a contract violation in most cases. The actual marriage license, which is usually the only thing that matters, doesn't make any promises. You don't swear to do anything or uphold anything.

Although of course you can get very very specific in a pre-nup.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/implied_contract.asp

Monogamy is the default in our culture

Grendel posted...

Not criminal, but it should always be a strong factor in the divorce proceedings. It's a major contract violation and should be treated as such.

Sounds about right. I'd also be in favour of applying some degree of criminality to giving one's partner an STI by cheating, especially if it's a serious one like HIV or syphilis.
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Grendel posted...

Moonjay posted...

Grendel posted...

Not criminal, but it should always be a strong factor in the divorce proceedings. It's a major contract violation and should be treated as such.

I wouldn't even call it a contract violation in most cases. The actual marriage license, which is usually the only thing that matters, doesn't make any promises. You don't swear to do anything or uphold anything.

Although of course you can get very very specific in a pre-nup.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/implied_contract.asp

Monogamy is the default in our culture

I'm not so sure about that any more. lol
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No because open relationships are a thing, even after marriage, and such a thing could end up prejudicing these people in one way or another. Not to mention that there would be an avalanche of false claims on court.

VixYW posted...

No because open relationships are a thing, even after marriage, and such a thing could end up prejudicing these people in one way or another. Not to mention that there would be an avalanche of false claims on court.

Well of course there should be a burden of proof
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VixYW posted...

No because open relationships are a thing, even after marriage, and such a thing could end up prejudicing these people in one way or another.

Open relationships aren't cheating, though. It's not a matter of making all extramarital sex illegal, just cheating, and it's only cheating if your partner doesn't consent to it.
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What about swingers and polygamists. Why are you discriminating against them.

Anyway, marriage is supposed to be something both people involved in want to be a part of. There is no point in a law that tries to force people who are unhappy with the conditions of their marriage to stay loyal to each other. That's just stupid.

In fact, there should be no limitations or reasons to try and discourage divorce. If you don't want to be together, than don't be.
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Zangulus posted...

Like there wouldnt be cases of people claiming that the relationship wasnt open. Or there were stipulations that the other person broke. Etc etc.

This is done in cases of spousal abuse and yet it's still illegal.
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Zangulus posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Zangulus posted...

Like there wouldnt be cases of people claiming that the relationship wasnt open. Or there were stipulations that the other person broke. Etc etc.

This is done in cases of spousal abuse and yet it's still illegal.

Oh lets see. Someones consensual sex life versus beating someone which is already illegal.

Huh. I wonder why these two things arent equal...

<insert joke about consensual beating here>

Maybe not criminal punishment, but the aggrieved party should have more benefits in things like divorce proceedings

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

Divorce is the mildest form of revenge. Even the winning party doesn't necessarily get any satisfaction out of it.

Beating the shit out of the third party is more cathartic but the law won't protect that either.

Why beat the shit out of the third party, when your spouse is the scummy shitheel who's going looking for strange p---- behind your back?

Better to just beat the shit out of your significant other.

Not that beating anybody up resolves anything or even helps that much with your feelings.
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I think cheating should constitute grounds for punishment financially. In some places, I believe that's the case, but it needs to be standard.
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Zangulus posted...

Now lets see who yanks on that bait like a 12 year old playing with themselves for the first time...

Whoa, nobody took it!
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I prefer the government stay the fuck out of my life and the lives of everyone else. They already intrude way too damn much.
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Cheating is bad. No one should do it. But Im not sure that making it a law would be a good thing...
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Yes. Marriage is a contract and if that contract is broken I feel the victim should have the right to press charges
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Your legal recourse is divorce. End of story.

Cheating is probably the worst thing you legally can do to someone else, but making it a crime is absolutely insane. Miss me with that Sharia Law shit.
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It should be automatic forfeiture of prenup/settlement and alimony (with documented evidence only, just saying they did it isn't good enough). Child support should still be required.
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This is what the prenup is for.
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Prenups are not always honored but perhaps create nasty civil penalties for adultery.
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Zangulus posted...

Ben111 posted...

Yes. Marriage is a contract and if that contract is broken I feel the victim should have the right to press charges

Contracts are a civil matter.

I guess its a little late but I did intend for this to be a matter of civil law.

Basically you can explicitly sue your spouse for infidelity in those precise terms. There would be specific consequences and settlements that could be handed down for that exact offense in litigious terms.
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yutterh posted...

No jail or prison time but definitely a fine of some short.

That wouldn't really work though, sure they could get a fine but the fine will have to be paid via communal property. So in the end the cheated will be cheated twice when they lose money to pay for the fine.
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Zangulus posted...

zebatov posted...

This is what the prenup is for.

Ding ding ding.

In about 90% of relationships, asking for a pre-nup is pretty much akin to asking for a break-up. Celebrities and major business execs can generally get away with it, but for the average person, it's basically telling your significant other that you don't trust them and that you have no faith in your marriage actually lasting.

Probably the best most people in that scenario have to look forward to is having their partner emotionally guilt-trip them into dropping the issue, or walking out entirely. Though for really ironic flavor, demonstrating that you don't trust them might be the thing that ultimately motivates them to start cheating on you in the first place.



Zeus posted...

Not that beating anybody up resolves anything

That sounds like something a Communist would say!


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