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LightningAce11
05/24/18 8:23:37 AM
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8/10 IGN, 7/10 GameSpot.
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voldothegr8
05/24/18 8:27:03 AM
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What's even the gimmick with this game? Seems generic as fuck with a stupid name.
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 8:43:42 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
What's even the gimmick with this game? Seems generic as fuck with a stupid name.

Interactive game with different protagonists.

It's more like something you'd watch just to see all the endings and choices.
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Alucard188
05/24/18 8:44:28 AM
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Press X to Shaun
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 8:47:05 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Press X to Shaun

It actually looks much better. Graphics, textures, dialogue all are very good so far.

The only thing is that it's a bit uncanny valley with poor lip syncing, which works with the androids but not the humans.
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Doom_Art
05/24/18 8:49:30 AM
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D a v i d C a g e
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Irony
05/24/18 8:49:59 AM
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Doubt the dialogue is better. Every Cage game is basically Mass Effect Andromeda dialogue wise.
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snesmaster40
05/24/18 8:50:21 AM
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It's a David Cage game. There's probably some attempted rape sequence or some event where a female character gets naked.

I'm surprised that he gets away with doing that.
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giantblimpN7
05/24/18 9:27:03 AM
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I refuse to believe David Cage is capable of writing anything good
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 9:27:54 AM
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Well, so far the first 30 minutes have been decent.

I guess it's just a matter of time till it goes downhill.
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Veggeta_MAX
05/24/18 9:28:08 AM
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Who is David Cage?
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Irony
05/24/18 9:29:45 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist
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Veggeta_MAX
05/24/18 9:30:24 AM
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Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?
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Irony
05/24/18 9:32:55 AM
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Both
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 9:39:14 AM
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Oh boy, now we got a cutscene with a black guy preaching that androids were built to be slaves and now they are taking over.
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JxOxNxIxCxS
05/24/18 9:43:38 AM
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X To Shaun 2K18
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BlueBoy675
05/24/18 9:44:36 AM
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JASON!

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Doe
05/24/18 9:46:34 AM
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8 is undoubtedly generous, but it's the gaming """review""" industry, so whatever
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snesmaster40
05/24/18 9:53:06 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


A bit of both. His games tend to have a female character in a compromising situation, like in Heavy Rain where a character's introduction involves them having a dream where she is almost raped. This scene actually did nothing for the character, because it's never mentioned again or used for the plot.
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/18 10:01:34 AM
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@Doe posted...
8 is undoubtedly generous, but it's the gaming """review""" industry, so whatever

Have you actually played the game or are you just assuming? The game has been praised by people not even in the """"review"""" industry so that point is moot.
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SSJGrimReaper
05/24/18 10:01:59 AM
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 10:09:04 AM
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The father is literally all abusive stereotypes rolled into one. No nuance, no subtlety, just raar I'm a raging alcoholic!
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Jiggy101011
05/24/18 10:09:35 AM
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snesmaster40 posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


A bit of both. His games tend to have a female character in a compromising situation, like in Heavy Rain where a character's introduction involves them having a dream where she is almost raped. This scene actually did nothing for the character, because it's never mentioned again or used for the plot.


She suffers from insomnia which is brought up many times in the game and is also the reason you as the gamer think she checks into the motel before the reveal.
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Leanaunfurled
05/24/18 10:14:15 AM
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Looking good so far. I'm interested, though I won't buy this at full price. I'll wait until it's $30 or less.

snesmaster40 posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


A bit of both. His games tend to have a female character in a compromising situation, like in Heavy Rain where a character's introduction involves them having a dream where she is almost raped. This scene actually did nothing for the character, because it's never mentioned again or used for the plot.

lol @ this though.
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The_Scarecrow
05/24/18 10:26:38 AM
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Didn't David Cage have a nude model of Ellen Page made even though she told the development team not to do that?
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iamintents
05/24/18 10:30:10 AM
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The_Scarecrow posted...
Didn't David Cage have a nude model of Ellen Page made even though she told the development team not to do that?

Lol yea

Dudes a ceman
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/18 10:30:38 AM
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The_Scarecrow posted...
Didn't David Cage have a nude model of Ellen Page made even though she told the development team not to do that?

Yeah for the weird shower scene.

Luckily Cage isn't the lead writer for Detroit.
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Questionmarktarius
05/24/18 10:42:38 AM
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Seems like it's just a glorified VN.
Were it full of anime waifus instead of facebones and shaders, I guarantee you the critical reactions would be completely flipped, more or less.
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Ivynn
05/24/18 10:45:45 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


Yes
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cjsdowg
05/24/18 10:48:10 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Seems like it's just a glorified VN.
Were it full of anime waifus instead of facebones and shaders, I guarantee you the critical reactions would be completely flipped, more or less.


What are facebones and shaders ?
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Questionmarktarius
05/24/18 10:50:32 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
What are facebones and shaders ?

https://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/create-a-facial-animation-setup-in-blender-part-1--cg-32251

...or, perhaps just some cynical jaded internet asshole's rant against throwing more and more pretty graphics at mediocre games.
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cjsdowg
05/24/18 10:52:13 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
cjsdowg posted...
What are facebones and shaders ?

https://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/create-a-facial-animation-setup-in-blender-part-1--cg-32251

...or, perhaps just some cynical jaded internet asshole's rant against throwing more and more pretty graphics at mediocre games.


Thanks, learn something new everyday. Also.. I see your point. Heavy Rain was not that good when it came to the writing. Horrible characters like the Junk Yard and Club owners, everything about Jason, major plot points that were abandoned, and yet people talked about how they loved it. and
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/18 10:56:26 AM
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2Questionmarktarius posted...
Seems like it's just a glorified VN.
Were it full of anime waifus instead of facebones and shaders, I guarantee you the critical reactions would be completely flipped, more or less.

Uh no it wouldn't. The game you're looking for is Ace Attorney, which is highly praised.

Part of Detroit involves a lot of investigation sequences in the vein of Ace Attorney albeit even more in depth. The game is praised for doing that well. Seems dumb to arbitrarily assume people are bias in that way without even knowing what it's about.
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Questionmarktarius
05/24/18 11:01:32 AM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
2Questionmarktarius posted...
Seems like it's just a glorified VN.
Were it full of anime waifus instead of facebones and shaders, I guarantee you the critical reactions would be completely flipped, more or less.

Uh no it wouldn't. The game you're looking for is Ace Attorney, which is highly praised.

Part of Detroit involves a lot of investigation sequences in the vein of Ace Attorney albeit even more in depth. The game is praised for doing that well. Seems dumb to arbitrarily assume people are bias in that way without even knowing what it's about.

Well, okay, maybe not critics, but instead talking head youtube "critics" and message board trolls.
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Bio1590
05/24/18 11:02:46 AM
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snesmaster40 posted...
It's a David Cage game. There's probably some attempted rape sequence or some event where a female character gets naked.

I'm surprised that he gets away with doing that.

Intense Violence
Blood
Suggestive Themes
Strong Language
Use of Drugs
Partial Nudity

Are we gonna get a kinky Android-on-Android sex scene
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Darkninja42
05/24/18 11:03:27 AM
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Related, I ran across this where you can get a 20% off coupon for PSN if you go to this site and watch a launch trailer: https://live.playstation.com/detroit-become-human
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Terra-enforcer
05/24/18 11:11:54 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
2Questionmarktarius posted...
Seems like it's just a glorified VN.
Were it full of anime waifus instead of facebones and shaders, I guarantee you the critical reactions would be completely flipped, more or less.

Uh no it wouldn't. The game you're looking for is Ace Attorney, which is highly praised.

Part of Detroit involves a lot of investigation sequences in the vein of Ace Attorney albeit even more in depth. The game is praised for doing that well. Seems dumb to arbitrarily assume people are bias in that way without even knowing what it's about.

Well, okay, maybe not critics, but instead talking head youtube "critics" and message board trolls.
Coffee isn't working its magic fast enough this morning.

If anything "youtube critics" are more inclined to be attached to anime games more than any other crowd. It's the big guys like IGN and the like that generally dislike those games.

Trolls will always be trolls though. Like I said, Ace Attorney is almost universally loved for a reason even though it's anime as fuck.
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spanky1
05/24/18 11:23:01 AM
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The writing may not be the best in his games, but I've always loved the atmospheres he creates. They feel amazing to me.
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LIsJustice
05/24/18 5:52:15 PM
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I read the game apparently had scenes with stripper Androids >_>
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SmidgeIsntBack
05/24/18 6:05:39 PM
#41:


Jiggy101011 posted...
snesmaster40 posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


A bit of both. His games tend to have a female character in a compromising situation, like in Heavy Rain where a character's introduction involves them having a dream where she is almost raped. This scene actually did nothing for the character, because it's never mentioned again or used for the plot.


She suffers from insomnia which is brought up many times in the game and is also the reason you as the gamer think she checks into the motel before the reveal.


Why is rape necessary for this point of characterization
Why is sex or attempted murder necessary for almost all of the only female character's scenes
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 8:26:17 PM
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Why does David Cage write his women like that?
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cjsdowg
05/24/18 10:09:56 PM
#43:


SmidgeIsntBack posted...
Jiggy101011 posted...
snesmaster40 posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Irony posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Who is David Cage?

A creepy possible rapist

Why are people supporting his games?


Is that claim true or some kind of meme?


A bit of both. His games tend to have a female character in a compromising situation, like in Heavy Rain where a character's introduction involves them having a dream where she is almost raped. This scene actually did nothing for the character, because it's never mentioned again or used for the plot.


She suffers from insomnia which is brought up many times in the game and is also the reason you as the gamer think she checks into the motel before the reveal.


Why is rape necessary for this point of characterization
Why is sex or attempted murder necessary for almost all of the only female character's scenes


Add to that she was also raped by the Rico the night club owner. So yeah in the same game a women is almost randomly raped two times.
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Darmik
05/24/18 10:17:10 PM
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Reviews seem around the same level as expected. If you like Quantic Dream games it seems good. Otherwise it's not for you. Also the game is very extreme and hamfisted with its plots, themes and characters.

David Cage is a pretty polarizing figure in general so it's not surprising there's a lot of divide between critics.

I'm excited to play it. Gonna play through myself and then watch my wife go through it. Hopefully our plots diverge quite a bit.
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The Great Muta 22
05/24/18 10:24:40 PM
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David Cages birthday is 6/9/69
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Freddie_Mercury
05/24/18 10:31:43 PM
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david cage should've become human
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Kisai
05/24/18 10:32:00 PM
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The trailer looked really good, but the only David Cage game I played in full was Beyond: Two Souls, and the writing in some parts was atrocious. I'm looking at you, birthday party and Dawkins randomly becoming a bad guy. I played through a little bit of Heavy Rain, and it didn't really get my attention.

So while the trailer for Detroit: Beyond Human looked really good, I'm cautiously optimistic. But if the reviews are good, that might be a good sign.
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LightningAce11
05/24/18 10:37:26 PM
#48:


What? Xsquader was in the game?
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Delirious_Beard
05/24/18 10:41:31 PM
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spoiler alert: it's shit
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LightningAce11
05/25/18 10:35:59 PM
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Seriously, what is with all the dialogue? Every line is cliche or "heard it before".

David Cage is a white dude who can't even write white dudes properly, let alone women or minorities.
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