Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 6: Why we are better

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Vlado
05/21/18 5:33:35 AM
#1:


Nationalism (previously "conservatism") stands for:
- humanity
- life
- family
- morality
- all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands
- independent countries governing themselves as they see fit, and working together to advance all of mankind, but never at the expense of their own peoples' interests
- Christian values, which are the central pillar of morality and what makes humans human
- preserving and advancing European culture
- living your life as a constant quest for self-improvement
- getting married to the person you love and having your children together
- rejecting degeneracy in all of its forms in modern society (heavy drinking, drug abuse, random sex, etc. - and all media that portray those in a positive light)
- letting competent people achieve as much as their potential allows
- zero tolerance towards people who are harmful to society (especially pedophiles)

Globalism (previously "liberalism") stands for:
- anti-humanity (read below)
- death (especially of unborn children)
- weaking and destruction of family, after all, it's "racist," "patriarchy," etc.
- rejection and ridicule of morality, good is presented as "bad," bad is presented as "good"
- multiculturalism, i.e. forcing people to live far away from their parents' lands, and forcing different cultures to live together, which inevitably erodes societal trust and causes people to live in constant fear and suspicion
- corporations (ideally, a world government) bending the entire world to their will, with no regards to different countries and cultures
- rejection of God and Christianity - and any morality! After all, humans are just evolved monkeys, just animals, nothing more. "Live as animals!", globalists say
- destroying all cultures, starting of course with European culture, replacing them with a grey, dull, disgusting mixture where consumerism is the highest virtue. Work all your life to make corporations rich, spend whatever crumbs they pay you on new and new meaningless toys enriching corporations evermore
- living your life as a degenerate - caring only for basic material desires like food, drinks, sex, cars, gadgets... Nothing that elevates you above animals, nothing that makes humans human!
- if marrying a person at all, it's out of egoism and lust, having no children at all or at most one (because more than that is BAD for the environment, pay no attention to the fact that people of lower intelligence breed like rabbits in the meantime)
- engaging in degeneracy in all possible form, and encouraging others to do so with media propaganda
- curbing competent people in the name of "equality" - which actually means bringing everyone capable down to the lowest level for the sake of "social justice"
- gradual promotion of anti-societal behaviours, putting them on a pedestal, and fierce backlash against normal people who condemn them until they are shamed into silence
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Vlado
05/21/18 5:34:31 AM
#2:


Trump takes action!

I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes - and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama Administration!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/998256454590193665

Clever girl:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdFvbyrXkAEFW5r.jpg

Also, mole in Trump campaign exposed:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-19/fbi-spy-op-exposed-trump-campaign-infiltrated-longtime-cia-and-mi6-asset
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GuessMyUserName
05/21/18 5:56:32 AM
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did you type out that OP yourself
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Kenri
05/21/18 9:47:26 AM
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Vlado posted...
Globalism (previously "liberalism") stands for:
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- if marrying a person at all, it's out of egoism and lust, having no children at all or at most one (because more than that is BAD for the environment, pay no attention to the fact that people of lower intelligence breed like rabbits in the meantime)

this is such a good self-own
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 9:49:04 AM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
did you type out that OP yourself


Hell no lol.
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Anagram
05/21/18 10:02:06 AM
#6:


Jesus Christ why did I break my rule and enter this topic
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 10:05:29 AM
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On the plus side maybe this is finally the OP that gets people to stop paying attention to this chicken nugget.
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Vlado
05/21/18 10:11:57 AM
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Not a single rebuttal - not a single attempt, even. I'd like to see one of the above people try to counter my observation about family. They can't. Their ideology is all about destroying the family.

Kenri posted...
Vlado posted...
Globalism (previously "liberalism") stands for:
...
- if marrying a person at all, it's out of egoism and lust, having no children at all or at most one (because more than that is BAD for the environment, pay no attention to the fact that people of lower intelligence breed like rabbits in the meantime)

this is such a good self-own

Do I look like I subscribe to the teachings of globalism?
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 10:21:11 AM
#9:


lol @ that consumerism point being listed under liberals (sorry, i meant "globalists"). yeah, it's certainly not conservatives (sorry, i meant "nationalists") who are known for consumerism, enriching big corporations and screwing over poor people.
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Vlado
05/21/18 10:23:24 AM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol @ that consumerism point being listed under liberals (sorry, i meant "globalists"). yeah, it's certainly not conservatives (sorry, i meant "nationalists") who are known for consumerism, enriching big corporations and screwing over poor people.

Indeed. If corporations didn't benefit from globalism, they wouldn't be spending billions annually, not to mention spewing endless propaganda pushing it.

Here's a good cause.
https://freedomfromfb.com/

Man, watching these digital monopolies burn to the ground will be fun.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 10:23:40 AM
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Vlado posted...
I'd like to see one of the above people try to counter my observation about family.


i know tons of liberal couples who either have children or want to have children in the future.

wow, that was easy.
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Vlado
05/21/18 10:25:45 AM
#12:


What did you counter? Never did I claim that each and every person subscribing to it would follow the teachings. See the big picture. Observe the trend. You KNOW I am right!

Speaking of corporate propaganda of globalist "values," here's Viacom:
https://twitter.com/WesternIdentity/status/994952082208804864/
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 10:29:36 AM
#13:


Vlado posted...
Indeed.


yeah, conservatives are so anti-big corporations. they totally don't want a relentless free market with super small government so that the big corporations can do whatever the fuck they want.
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Vlado
05/21/18 10:34:17 AM
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That's libertarians. ;)

It's already painfully transparent - EC, EU, and similar globalist organisations simply want more non-Europeans in Europe, no matter the cost!
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/10/eu-italy-deplorable-priority-help-migrants/

Lega and 5 Stelle are about to present their government, btw. :)
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:37:12 AM
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all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands

You must really despise US citizens who aren't Native Americans huh, since the Americas aren't their ancestors' lands and all.
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Vlado
05/21/18 10:40:12 AM
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OliviaTremor posted...
all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands

You must really despise US citizens who aren't Native Americans huh, since the Americas aren't their ancestors' lands and all.

This kind of nitpicking is the best liberals can give here. :D
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 10:40:40 AM
#17:


libertarians want even smaller government. or no government at all, in many cases.

the point is that conservatives typically want smaller government than liberals, and are more pro-big corporations than liberals. the notion that conservatives are the ones who are in favor of big government and anti-big corporations is insanity.
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:41:56 AM
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Vlado posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands

You must really despise US citizens who aren't Native Americans huh, since the Americas aren't their ancestors' lands and all.

This kind of nitpicking is the best liberals can give here. :D


Why don't you try giving an informed rebuttal instead of... well... nothing at all?
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:44:16 AM
#19:


Coward.
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:46:03 AM
#20:


You were the one who wrote that. Surely you were smart enough to anticipate such an obvious objection and have a counterpoint ready?
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Kenri
05/21/18 10:51:46 AM
#21:


Vlado posted...
Kenri posted...
Vlado posted...
Globalism (previously "liberalism") stands for:
...
- if marrying a person at all, it's out of egoism and lust, having no children at all or at most one (because more than that is BAD for the environment, pay no attention to the fact that people of lower intelligence breed like rabbits in the meantime)

this is such a good self-own

Do I look like I subscribe to the teachings of globalism?

no definitely not, don't worry
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:51:51 AM
#22:


Welp I guess that settles it. Liberals win.

'Hurr durr I didn't respond because I wasn't on b8 you're obsessed'.

Nope, I posted less than a minute after you. You saw my post and were a coward and now you'll likely copy paste a wall of text from somewhere and climb you were taking the time to write.
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 10:53:53 AM
#23:


I request everyone call Vlado Coward from now on. I bet he's too much of a coward to even take an XL dragon dildo up his butt, let alone an XXL.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 11:01:19 AM
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lol @ vlado dismissing notyou's point as "nitpicking." yeah, it's not like it makes your whole "nationalism" narrative completely fall apart or anything.

if conservatism/nationalism is all about "living in your ancestors' land" that gives me another reason not to ever join them, btw. i'd much rather live in the netherlands than the place my ancestors came from. (seems pretty globalist and anti-nationalist to move to a country i wasn't born in, too!)
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Peace___Frog
05/21/18 11:14:13 AM
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"DEBATE WITH ME," the man yelled, thrashing about the room. "NO, NOT LIKE THAT! DON'T NITPICK MY ARGUMENTS! MY PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS ARGUMENTS!" he bemoaned.

As everyone turned their backs on him, he began muttering to himself. "They just can't handle my intellect. Yes, that's it... I'm too smart for them! Every single one of them! LMAOOOOOOOOOOooooooo..."

His voice carried off into the distance as he grabbed the nearest XXL dildo and ferociously shoved it into his rectum. "This will show them!" he exclaimed, crying tears of joy. "I did it all to own the libs! And look at them now!"

Had there been any onlookers remaining, they surely would have averted their gaze by now. It surely begs the question: if a nationalist fellates himself but no one is around to notice, did they actually fellate themself at all?
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Peace___Frog
05/21/18 11:15:26 AM
#26:


Wait a second, i wrote that before seeing post #23
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MajinZidane
05/21/18 11:23:45 AM
#27:


OliviaTremor posted...
You must really despise US citizens who aren't Native Americans huh, since the Americas aren't their ancestors' lands and all.


Why does this matter? To be a nationalist, you have to have want to promote and preserve EUROPEAN culture. Last time I checked, the US wasn't in Europe, buddy.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 11:30:04 AM
#28:


yeah, funny how "nationalism" happens to encompass a bunch of stuff that vlado finds important ("european culture," christianity, conservative values like anti-abortion).

i guess nations that don't value this stuff aren't actually nations...?
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TheRock1525
05/21/18 11:30:36 AM
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I like how he changes the title, all but admitting his beliefs aren't really conservative.

@foolm0r0n would be proud.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 11:34:26 AM
#30:


also, wtf @ the term "european culture," as if all european countries share the exact same culture. i'd expect this from someone like muffin, but as a southeastern european vlado should know better.
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 11:34:27 AM
#31:


Vlado posted...

- all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands


How many peoples are there?
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 11:37:35 AM
#32:


Vlado posted...
- living your life as a degenerate - caring only for basic material desires like food, drinks, sex, cars, gadgets... Nothing that elevates you above animals, nothing that makes humans human!


TIL animals are way into cars
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TheRock1525
05/21/18 11:41:43 AM
#33:


Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...

- all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands


How many peoples are there?


My ancestors are Irish, Italian, French, German, and Prussian.

I don't know which ancestor's land to live in!
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Mr Lasastryke
05/21/18 11:43:24 AM
#34:


Jakyl25 posted...
TIL animals are way into cars


https://snm-nl-kids-ddbackend-production-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/ae/9f/ae9f27e9-37cf-47cc-8c2c-52c8ceb17ffe/auto_kopieeren.png

this is what vlado was looking at when he wrote that sentence.
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 11:44:48 AM
#35:


TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...

- all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands


How many peoples are there?


My ancestors are Irish, Italian, French, German, and Prussian.

I don't know which ancestor's land to live in!


And were all entitled to live in East Africa!
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lordloki12
05/21/18 11:45:36 AM
#36:


TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...

- all peoples having their own countries, free to live and pursue their fate in their own ancestors' lands


How many peoples are there?


My ancestors are Irish, Italian, French, German, and Prussian.

I don't know which ancestor's land to live in!


Congrats you now have more countries than Vlado.
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Jakyl25
05/21/18 11:48:16 AM
#37:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
TIL animals are way into cars


https://snm-nl-kids-ddbackend-production-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/images/ae/9f/ae9f27e9-37cf-47cc-8c2c-52c8ceb17ffe/auto_kopieeren.png

this is what vlado was looking at when he wrote that sentence.


At least we have evolved above this base animal by recognizing the need for pants
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 12:05:46 PM
#38:


Vlado has finally initiated his death spiral sequence.
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Espeon
05/21/18 12:30:43 PM
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Preserving European culture eh? I guess that point is the Freudian slip that makes it clear that nationalism is really just white supremacy and bigotry. Otherwise it would say preserving NATIONAL culture.

Also, being against people harmful to society would mean being anti-nationalist, since the ideology is inherently violent. So I guess being nationist means you have to hate yourself?
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 12:33:16 PM
#40:


The question is whether Vlado meant to copy and paste this from a white nationalist source or not. I'm assuming he didn't proofread.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 12:53:11 PM
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Vlado what country should people live in if they are adopted and don't know how their ancestors are and have no experience with whatever culture their ancestors were part of?

Which Christian denomination is the correct one?

How do I advance European culture as an American who is unfamiliar with European culture?

How do I learn how to love someone and how can I be talked into having kids when I don't want to deal with raising kids, from a financial perspective to a responsibility perspective to an interactive perspective?

Why especially pedophiles? How are they any worse than mass shooters, serial killers, terrorists etc.? Why put emphasis on that specific variety of degenerate?

You do make a good point about low intelligence people breeding like rabbits. We do have a problem with that over here in America, especially with a few religions that are offshoots of Christianity, as well as in white nationalist culture.
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CelesMyUserName
05/21/18 1:29:24 PM
#42:


Espeon posted...
Preserving European culture eh? I guess that point is the Freudian slip that makes it clear that nationalism is really just white supremacy and bigotry. Otherwise it would say preserving NATIONAL culture.

nah france, italy, germany, spain are all the same country called Europe didn't you know?

that's what the nationalists told me
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Kenri
05/21/18 1:29:47 PM
#43:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why especially pedophiles? How are they any worse than mass shooters, serial killers, terrorists etc.? Why put emphasis on that specific variety of degenerate?

it's projection tbh
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 1:39:01 PM
#44:


Kenri posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Why especially pedophiles? How are they any worse than mass shooters, serial killers, terrorists etc.? Why put emphasis on that specific variety of degenerate?

it's projection tbh


Makes sense. He was outraged when Nintendo censored a 13 y/o girl's "vagina bones" or whatever he called it.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/21/18 2:47:17 PM
#45:


Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
- living your life as a degenerate - caring only for basic material desires like food, drinks, sex, cars, gadgets... Nothing that elevates you above animals, nothing that makes humans human!


TIL animals are way into cars


Well, Lions are always trying to carjack folk on Safari... lol.
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Vlado
05/21/18 3:07:47 PM
#46:


OliviaTremor posted...
Why don't you try giving an informed rebuttal instead of... well... nothing at all?

OliviaTremor posted...
Coward.

OliviaTremor posted...
You were the one who wrote that. Surely you were smart enough to anticipate such an obvious objection and have a counterpoint ready?

OliviaTremor posted...
Welp I guess that settles it. Liberals win.

'Hurr durr I didn't respond because I wasn't on b8 you're obsessed'.

Nope, I posted less than a minute after you. You saw my post and were a coward and now you'll likely copy paste a wall of text from somewhere and climb you were taking the time to write.

OliviaTremor posted...
I request everyone call Vlado Coward from now on. I bet he's too much of a coward to even take an XL dragon dildo up his butt, let alone an XXL.

lol @ this meltdown

Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol @ vlado dismissing notyou's point as "nitpicking." yeah, it's not like it makes your whole "nationalism" narrative completely fall apart or anything.

if conservatism/nationalism is all about "living in your ancestors' land" that gives me another reason not to ever join them, btw. i'd much rather live in the netherlands than the place my ancestors came from. (seems pretty globalist and anti-nationalist to move to a country i wasn't born in, too!)

How does it make it "fall apart"? It's nitpicking because it fails to address the meat of my arguments, it merely searches for some imagined gap to strike, and because arguing about the past is pointless. What's done is done. We cannot make time turn back and erase the injustices done to the Native American tribes.

We can, however, influence, and indeed change the present and future. And that is what I intend to do.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/21/18 3:15:49 PM
#47:


Wow vlado, of all the responses you could have given to Lasa, that one was the most responsive to only 1/3 of his post on you could have made! :)
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ColZach
05/21/18 3:29:35 PM
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Vlado reminds me of what happens when kids should get their ass beat when theyre kids but they have shit parents so they let them turn into this abomination
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OliviaTremor
05/21/18 3:36:59 PM
#49:


Vlado posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Why don't you try giving an informed rebuttal instead of... well... nothing at all?

OliviaTremor posted...
Coward.

OliviaTremor posted...
You were the one who wrote that. Surely you were smart enough to anticipate such an obvious objection and have a counterpoint ready?

OliviaTremor posted...
Welp I guess that settles it. Liberals win.

'Hurr durr I didn't respond because I wasn't on b8 you're obsessed'.

Nope, I posted less than a minute after you. You saw my post and were a coward and now you'll likely copy paste a wall of text from somewhere and climb you were taking the time to write.

OliviaTremor posted...
I request everyone call Vlado Coward from now on. I bet he's too much of a coward to even take an XL dragon dildo up his butt, let alone an XXL.

lol @ this meltdown


Good job supporting your argument. You really are mentally challenged aren't you? And yes, I mean you specifically, I believe you are stupid and may have a learning disability.
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Vlado
05/21/18 3:37:57 PM
#50:


European culture is a catch-all for the cultures of Europe and, indeed, pre-madness USA (and really, also current USA outside of poisoned metropolises), not to mention other countries of people with European ancestry. Pretty funny to see liberals trying to accuse me of refusing European countries their distinct cultures, though. The same people whose masters are working to erase them are defending them, just so they can desperately grasp onto a straw to argue with me.

While European civilisation, in parallel with the likes of China and Japan, has driven humanity's progress through history, of course that doesn't mean that non-European countries cannot be nationalist, too. Every person must fight, literally and figuratively, for his own family, country and people.

ColZach posted...
Vlado reminds me of what happens when kids should get their ass beat when theyre kids but they have shit parents so they let them turn into this abomination

What, too scared to post on your main?

OliviaTremor posted...
Good job supporting your argument. You really are mentally challenged aren't you? And yes, I mean you specifically, I believe you are stupid and may have a learning disability.

Evidently, that would be far from the last of your delusions...

Everything stated in the first post stands 100%.
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