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TheRock1525 05/22/18 4:06:05 PM #151:	Vlado posted... That couldn't be farther from the truth. While Japan is experiencing a demographic down as part of the endless up-and-down cycle for normal peoples, it is booming in every aspect that matters, most of all societal trust and lack of crime. Go read the article I linked. It's Christian so you should have no problem believing it. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:901801359] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>That couldn't be farther from the truth. While Japan is experiencing a demographic down as part of the endless up-and-down cycle for normal peoples, it is booming in every aspect that matters, most of all societal trust and lack of crime.</quote> Go read the article I linked. It's Christian so you should have no problem believing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 05/22/18 4:12:19 PM #152:	I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:901801672] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/22/18 4:12:25 PM #153:	Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901801676] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/22/18 4:14:09 PM #154:	Vlado posted... No? The Bible says it is the path He chose. If "might makes right" shouldn't he have just nuked the Pharisees? Same goes for letting His people get killed and exiled and all that. Vlado posted... Do non-Christians obey God's commandments? How is that related? Vlado posted... a clear eventual goal of diminishing and destroying Christianity nah Vlado posted... "Love and faith"? alright YOU define Christianity then Vlado posted... While propaganda of degeneracy, sexual deviancy and rejection of Christ is blared 24/7 on all globalist media? this is not relevant to the discussion you and I are having, nor is it something I am particularly a fan of myself (although you will define those terms a lot more harshly than I will anyway) Vlado posted... Do you consider it normal and in line with Christian values? The government? America? The media? Normal maybe, Christian no. Again, not seeing how that ties to "might makes right." I hope you're not arguing for a theocracy while supporting an adulterer. Vlado posted... How do you even call yourself a Christian? I asked first Mt. 5:38-48 2 Tim 1:7 Mt. 22:36-40 Proverbs 25:21-22 off the top of my head all seem to contradict the position of "might makes right" and/or "screw other people unless they're like me" --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901801759] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>No? The Bible says it is the path He chose.</quote> If "might makes right" shouldn't he have just nuked the Pharisees? Same goes for letting His people get killed and exiled and all that. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Do non-Christians obey God's commandments?</quote> How is that related? <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>a clear eventual goal of diminishing and destroying Christianity</quote> nah <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>"Love and faith"?</quote> alright YOU define Christianity then <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>While propaganda of degeneracy, sexual deviancy and rejection of Christ is blared 24/7 on all globalist media?</quote> this is not relevant to the discussion you and I are having, nor is it something I am particularly a fan of myself (although you will define those terms a lot more harshly than I will anyway) <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Do you consider it normal and in line with Christian values?</quote> The government? America? The media? Normal maybe, Christian no. Again, not seeing how that ties to "might makes right." I hope you're not arguing for a theocracy while supporting an adulterer. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>How do you even call yourself a Christian?</quote> I asked first Mt. 5:38-48 2 Tim 1:7 Mt. 22:36-40 Proverbs 25:21-22 off the top of my head all seem to contradict the position of "might makes right" and/or "screw other people unless they're like me"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/22/18 4:18:29 PM #155:	Vlado posted... Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme. Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901802009] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme.</quote> Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 05/22/18 4:18:48 PM #156:	Vlado posted... Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme. I love how Vlado literally just accepted the accusation that hes a hateful bigot, and then claimed Jesus was cool with it. News flash, the temple example? That was Jesus attacking false Christians who used His Fathers name as a smokescreen for their sin. Jesus would whip the SHIT out of a Pharisee like you. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:901802023] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christs teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme.</quote> I love how Vlado literally just accepted the accusation that hes a hateful bigot, and then claimed Jesus was cool with it. News flash, the temple example? That was Jesus attacking false Christians who used His Fathers name as a smokescreen for their sin. Jesus would whip the SHIT out of a Pharisee like you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/22/18 4:20:13 PM #157:	I mean heck take Mt. 28:16-20. Last I checked it wasn't "Go and make disciples of your own nation" or the woman at the well who was looked down on for her ethnicity AND promiscuity- if Jesus can coexist with somebody who represents an outsider and sexual degeneracy, why can't you? the good samaritan is also a thing --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901802090] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>I mean heck take Mt. 28:16-20. Last I checked it wasn't "Go and make disciples of your own nation" or the woman at the well who was looked down on for her ethnicity AND promiscuity- if Jesus can coexist with somebody who represents an outsider and sexual degeneracy, why can't you? the good samaritan is also a thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/22/18 4:24:41 PM #158:	Tom Bombadil posted... If "might makes right" shouldn't he have just nuked the Pharisees? Same goes for letting His people get killed and exiled and all that. Your point? Tom Bombadil posted... How is that related? How is it not? We can use Christian laws on Christians. We cannot expect non-Christians to abide by Chrisian morality. Tom Bombadil posted... nah You refuse to acknowledge it. But that doesn't make it untrue. The trend is clear. Tom Bombadil posted... this is not relevant to the discussion you and I are having, nor is it something I am particularly a fan of myself (although you will define those terms a lot more harshly than I will anyway) How is it not relevant? You're saying that "love and faith" are globalist values, when in fact globalist propaganda buries love pushing pointless sex instead, and buries faith pushing rejection of Christ and Christian morality instead. Tom Bombadil posted... The government? America? The media? Normal maybe, Christian no. Again, not seeing how that ties to "might makes right." I hope you're not arguing for a theocracy while supporting an adulterer. You're failing to see the big picture. Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. Tom Bombadil posted... I asked first Mt. 5:38-48 2 Tim 1:7 Mt. 22:36-40 Proverbs 25:21-22 off the top of my head all seem to contradict the position of "might makes right" and/or "screw other people unless they're like me" What does "they're like me" mean? "Might makes right" is not my personal position. I simply acknowledge it as the one universally valid law. Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally just accepted the accusation that hes a hateful bigot, and then claimed Jesus was cool with it. News flash, the temple example? That was Jesus attacking false Christians who used His Fathers name as a smokescreen for their sin. Jesus would whip the SHIT out of a Pharisee like you. top kek --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901802346] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>If "might makes right" shouldn't he have just nuked the Pharisees? Same goes for letting His people get killed and exiled and all that.</quote> Your point? <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>How is that related?</quote> How is it not? We can use Christian laws on Christians. We cannot expect non-Christians to abide by Chrisian morality. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>nah</quote> You refuse to acknowledge it. But that doesn't make it untrue. The trend is clear. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>this is not relevant to the discussion you and I are having, nor is it something I am particularly a fan of myself (although you will define those terms a lot more harshly than I will anyway)</quote> How is it not relevant? You're saying that "love and faith" are globalist values, when in fact globalist propaganda buries love pushing pointless sex instead, and buries faith pushing rejection of Christ and Christian morality instead. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>The government? America? The media? Normal maybe, Christian no. Again, not seeing how that ties to "might makes right." I hope you're not arguing for a theocracy while supporting an adulterer.</quote> You're failing to see the big picture. Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>I asked first Mt. 5:38-48 2 Tim 1:7 Mt. 22:36-40 Proverbs 25:21-22 off the top of my head all seem to contradict the position of "might makes right" and/or "screw other people unless they're like me"</quote> What does "they're like me" mean? "Might makes right" is not my personal position. I simply acknowledge it as the one universally valid law. <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally just accepted the accusation that hes a hateful bigot, and then claimed Jesus was cool with it. News flash, the temple example? That was Jesus attacking false Christians who used His Fathers name as a smokescreen for their sin. Jesus would whip the SHIT out of a Pharisee like you.</quote> top kek</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/22/18 4:25:27 PM #159:	I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:901802386] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/22/18 4:26:01 PM #160:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vlado posted... Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme. Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again. TheRock1525 posted... I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned. Ah, right, I suppose all those raped children in Britain were made up, too. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901802424] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme.</quote> Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again.</quote> <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned.</quote> Ah, right, I suppose all those raped children in Britain were made up, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/22/18 4:26:55 PM #161:	Vlado posted... Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. Us? Who's us? You live in Bulgaria. Why are you being such a globalist and demanding how another country behaves? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:901802475] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. </quote> Us? Who's us? You live in Bulgaria. Why are you being such a globalist and demanding how another country behaves?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/22/18 4:29:06 PM #162:	Tom Bombadil posted... I mean heck take Mt. 28:16-20. Last I checked it wasn't "Go and make disciples of your own nation" or the woman at the well who was looked down on for her ethnicity AND promiscuity- if Jesus can coexist with somebody who represents an outsider and sexual degeneracy, why can't you? the good samaritan is also a thing Well not all of the bible is the real bible. Over the centuries, certain parts were corrupted by a secret order of globalists who infiltrated groups translating and printing biblical documents, so over time, globalist propaganda seeped into the bible itself and is now accepted by indoctrinated Christians who don't know the difference between real bible passages and globalist fake news bible passages. Only vlado and others in his orthodox Christian circle can differentiate. In the real bible, everything that vlado says is reinforced. Everything he disagrees with is fake bible news propaganda made by globalists. Isn't that right, vlado? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901802594] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>I mean heck take Mt. 28:16-20. Last I checked it wasn't "Go and make disciples of your own nation" or the woman at the well who was looked down on for her ethnicity AND promiscuity- if Jesus can coexist with somebody who represents an outsider and sexual degeneracy, why can't you? the good samaritan is also a thing</quote> Well not all of the bible is the real bible. Over the centuries, certain parts were corrupted by a secret order of globalists who infiltrated groups translating and printing biblical documents, so over time, globalist propaganda seeped into the bible itself and is now accepted by indoctrinated Christians who don't know the difference between real bible passages and globalist fake news bible passages. Only vlado and others in his orthodox Christian circle can differentiate. In the real bible, everything that vlado says is reinforced. Everything he disagrees with is fake bible news propaganda made by globalists. Isn't that right, vlado?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 05/22/18 4:30:42 PM #163:	Vlado is a fake Christian. Probably never even opened the New Testament. He just sticks with the Old Testament because he can use that to justify hating people different from himself. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:901802681] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Vlado is a fake Christian. Probably never even opened the New Testament. He just sticks with the Old Testament because he can use that to justify hating people different from himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/22/18 4:31:15 PM #164:	Vlado posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vlado posted... Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ Espeon posted... I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry. Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme. Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again. TheRock1525 posted... I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned. Ah, right, I suppose all those raped children in Britain were made up, too. I've heard nothing about "all those raped children in Britain." --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901802720] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Some consequences of "diversity": http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/ <cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I love how Vlado literally ignores Jesus Christ?s teachings while invoking His name to justify hatred and bigotry.</quote> Christ drove the merchants out of the temple by whipping them. The "hopelessly passive pacifist" Jesus is a globalist meme.</quote> Those aren't real consequences of diversity. That article is breitbart and breitbart only posts fake news. You fell for it again.</quote> <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd like to point out that Breitbart is citing a Dutch tabloid article so it's accuracy should be questioned.</quote> Ah, right, I suppose all those raped children in Britain were made up, too.</quote> I've heard nothing about "all those raped children in Britain."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/22/18 4:31:23 PM #165:	Vlado posted... Your point? "Might makes right" is a pretty weird universal law to push as a Christian Vlado posted... You're saying that "love and faith" are globalist values No? I'm saying that love (for God and fellow man) and faith (in Christ) are core tenets of Christianity. IIRC originally I called them globalist sarcastically because I don't see how they are compatible with might makes right, or nationalism. Vlado posted... Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? A) America is not a particularly Christian country, and arguably has never been B) And how d'you propose he's gonna do that when he has shown no signs of caring about them beyond a lip service level? Vlado posted... What does "they're like me" mean? From the same religion and culture. Vlado posted... "Might makes right" is not my personal position. I simply acknowledge it as the one universally valid law. What's the difference, then? --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901802725] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Your point?</quote> "Might makes right" is a pretty weird universal law to push as a Christian <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>You're saying that "love and faith" are globalist values</quote> No? I'm saying that love (for God and fellow man) and faith (in Christ) are core tenets of Christianity. IIRC originally I called them globalist sarcastically because I don't see how they are compatible with might makes right, or nationalism. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? </quote> A) America is not a particularly Christian country, and arguably has never been B) And how d'you propose he's gonna do that when he has shown no signs of caring about them beyond a lip service level? <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>What does "they're like me" mean?</quote> From the same religion and culture. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>"Might makes right" is not my personal position. I simply acknowledge it as the one universally valid law.</quote> What's the difference, then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/22/18 4:33:39 PM #166:	Vlado posted... top kek ^what's the difference between that and bottom kek? This is the 3rd time I've asked you this question this year. Can you answer it this time? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901802839] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>top kek</quote> ^what's the difference between that and bottom kek? This is the 3rd time I've asked you this question this year. Can you answer it this time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/22/18 4:34:06 PM #167:	bottom kek is lower quality probably brown --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901802867] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>bottom kek is lower quality probably brown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/22/18 4:36:01 PM #168:	Tom Bombadil posted... bottom kek is lower quality probably brown I just can't imagine even using the term kek without feeling dirty and ashamed of myself. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901802978] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>bottom kek is lower quality probably brown</quote> I just can't imagine even using the term kek without feeling dirty and ashamed of myself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 05/22/18 4:55:00 PM #169:	Kenri posted... Hop103 posted... All you need for nationalism is strong borders, strong military, country and citizens first, and no mass immigration. four really bad things are all you need! There's nothing wrong with the 4 things I mentioned, now the OP was laden with assorted bad things under the guise of nationalism which makes it more like 1950's America or an ethnostate. There's nothing wrong with defending our borders, having a great military, A true America first (Trump's is rife with corruption, we need to put the ordinary citizen first and not corporations), and smart immigration instead of open borders or none at all. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:901804012] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote> All you need for nationalism is strong borders, strong military, country and citizens first, and no mass immigration.</quote> four really bad things are all you need!</quote> There's nothing wrong with the 4 things I mentioned, now the OP was laden with assorted bad things under the guise of nationalism which makes it more like 1950's America or an ethnostate. There's nothing wrong with defending our borders, having a great military, A true America first (Trump's is rife with corruption, we need to put the ordinary citizen first and not corporations), and smart immigration instead of open borders or none at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 05/22/18 4:58:13 PM #170:	@Tom_Bombadil just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle. It's probably really annoying and tiring, but the sources are valuable to me, and taking the time to educate others is something I bet Christ wanted from his flock. Thank you. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:901804185] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>@Tom_Bombadil just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle. It's probably really annoying and tiring, but the sources are valuable to me, and taking the time to educate others is something I bet Christ wanted from his flock. Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hardcore_Adult 05/22/18 4:58:46 PM #171:	In fairness, Eye for an Eye makes sense. Teach people they can't do horrible things to others and not get a receipt for it. --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted [p:901804217] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>In fairness, Eye for an Eye makes sense. Teach people they can't do horrible things to others and not get a receipt for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 05/22/18 4:58:49 PM #172:	All abrahamic religion is inherently globalist, with huge importance on spreading the word and saving as much of the world as possible Hence of course, crusades, missionaries, and Christianity's role in colonialism. As well as some religious laws that guided who's allowed to marry who, generally promoting religious men to marry other affiliated women so that their children would have to under the man's religion, essentially getting Religions generally want a huge population above all as that's what gives them power and influence. A religion is nothing without a population. --- https://imgur.com/U7qSWmn something something hung something horse something <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:901804221] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>All abrahamic religion is inherently globalist, with huge importance on spreading the word and saving as much of the world as possible Hence of course, crusades, missionaries, and Christianity's role in colonialism. As well as some religious laws that guided who's allowed to marry who, generally promoting religious men to marry other affiliated women so that their children would have to under the man's religion, essentially getting Religions generally want a huge population above all as that's what gives them power and influence. A religion is nothing without a population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/22/18 5:10:12 PM #173:	KanzarisKelshen posted... just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle oh uh thanks! I get touchy once religion comes into things because I feel like Christianity gets a bum rap a lot of the time, and I would like (what I understand as) it to be better understood. --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901804909] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>KanzarisKelshen posted...</cite> <quote>just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle</quote> oh uh thanks! I get touchy once religion comes into things because I feel like Christianity gets a bum rap a lot of the time, and I would like (what I understand as) it to be better understood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hardcore_Adult 05/22/18 5:12:04 PM #174:	KanzarisKelshen posted... just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle oh uh thanks! I get touchy once religion comes into things because I feel like Christianity gets a bum rap a lot of the time, and I would like (what I understand as) it to be better understood. TBF, Many people HIDE behind the Church. (You have the setup for a joke, take it) --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted [p:901805023] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><quote><cite>KanzarisKelshen posted...</cite> <quote>just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle</quote> oh uh thanks! I get touchy once religion comes into things because I feel like Christianity gets a bum rap a lot of the time, and I would like (what I understand as) it to be better understood.</quote> TBF, Many people HIDE behind the Church. (You have the setup for a joke, take it)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/22/18 5:26:02 PM #175:	I respect Toms version of Christianity I dont really respect Vlados. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901805734] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>I respect Toms version of Christianity I dont really respect Vlados.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaziken 05/22/18 5:27:44 PM #176:	Jakyl25 posted... I respect Toms version of Christianity I dont really respect Vlados. Vlado's version of Christian has zero "Christ" aside from one instance of him citing Jesus destroying the money lenders in the temple (while completely misses the point of what that whole parable means.) He's not a Christian. He's an asshole who pretends to be Christian and uses that to claim righteousness. --- Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting. https://imgur.com/oOSm64C <cite>Blaziken posted [p:901805809] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I respect Toms version of Christianity I dont really respect Vlados.</quote> Vlado's version of Christian has zero "Christ" aside from one instance of him citing Jesus destroying the money lenders in the temple (while completely misses the point of what that whole parable means.) He's not a Christian. He's an asshole who pretends to be Christian and uses that to claim righteousness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/22/18 5:40:27 PM #177:	Vlado, are missionaries globalist? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901806461] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Vlado, are missionaries globalist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/22/18 5:42:13 PM #178:	Also its kinda funny going hyper-Christian while at the same time propping up Japan as the ideal nation. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901806570] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Also its kinda funny going hyper-Christian while at the same time propping up Japan as the ideal nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/22/18 5:48:07 PM #179:	TheRock1525 posted... Vlado posted... Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. Us? Who's us? You live in Bulgaria. Why are you being such a globalist and demanding how another country behaves? Thats how the paid Russia trolls are trained to frame the argument --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901806888] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Who cares if Trump is an "adulterer" if he helps America return to its true, Christian values? We are not in the position to choose the perfect leader to save us, we are under attack and need action now. </quote> Us? Who's us? You live in Bulgaria. Why are you being such a globalist and demanding how another country behaves?</quote> Thats how the paid Russia trolls are trained to frame the argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegaWentEvil 05/22/18 5:58:53 PM #180:	HEY! I'm atheist and liberal. <cite>MegaWentEvil posted [p:901807499] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>HEY! I'm atheist and liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hardcore_Adult 05/22/18 6:04:29 PM #181:	Hey, Vlado. You been to Russia? Just asking as you're WAY closer to it than I am! --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted [p:901807805] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Hey, Vlado. You been to Russia? Just asking as you're WAY closer to it than I am!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/23/18 1:40:39 AM #182:	https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/europe/pope-francis-gay-comments-intl/index.html Vlados not gonna like this... --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901830148] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/europe/pope-francis-gay-comments-intl/index.html Vlados not gonna like this...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 2:45:39 AM #183:	Espeon posted... Vlado is a fake Christian. Probably never even opened the New Testament. He just sticks with the Old Testament because he can use that to justify hating people different from himself. I have bad news for you. The New Testament is even harsher on globalist pseudo-values. Tom Bombadil posted... No? I'm saying that love (for God and fellow man) and faith (in Christ) are core tenets of Christianity. IIRC originally I called them globalist sarcastically because I don't see how they are compatible with might makes right, or nationalism. There's no political ideology love and faith are more compatible with than nationalist. Faith in God, love for your family and people, leading to a stable, safe, prosperous society. That is nationalism in a nutshell. Watch Trump's famous speech in Poland. Tom Bombadil posted... A) America is not a particularly Christian country, and arguably has never been WRONG! Read even just the Declaration of Independence. How do you call yourself a Christian (or an American) if you hold such obviously false positions? Tom Bombadil posted... B) And how d'you propose he's gonna do that when he has shown no signs of caring about them beyond a lip service level? If there is a will, there are thousands of ways. Whether there's really a will is questionable, you're right about that. But there's also a deep state that obstructs Trump so much that every single inch is gained after struggle. He must clean it up if anything is to be done. Tom Bombadil posted... From the same religion and culture. You must help your people first. You help yourself and your family first. As part of people X, you help your compatriots first, foreigners after. As a Christian, you obviously prioritise Christians over atheists and other religions. There is nothing more natural than this. Tom Bombadil posted... What's the difference, then? The difference is massive. I'm arguing from a pragmatic position, you and especially these misguided "liberals" attacking me are arguing from a position of unachievable (not to mention unpractical) idealism. I ACKNOWLEDGE the situation as it is in objective reality, and I point out how things should be in the desired future. You mix up the two things. In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right." Any study of history that is beyond painfully superficial will reveal that that's never really the case, and that wars are fought for any reason but morality or "good" and "evil." You must remember. Humans will be the same no matter how much technology changes. No amount of brainwashing can change that. Communists already tried. It didn't work. Now, the cultural branch of marxism are trying. It's not working. Other anti-human factions will surely try, too. It won't work. We must operate with the knowledge of how humans are, and work from there to advance mankind. NOT try to change humans. KanzarisKelshen posted... @Tom_Bombadil just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle. It's probably really annoying and tiring, but the sources are valuable to me, and taking the time to educate others is something I bet Christ wanted from his flock. Thank you. Let me remind you that I am an Orthodox Christian and he isn't. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901831906] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Vlado is a fake Christian. Probably never even opened the New Testament. He just sticks with the Old Testament because he can use that to justify hating people different from himself.</quote> I have bad news for you. The New Testament is even harsher on globalist pseudo-values. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>No? I'm saying that love (for God and fellow man) and faith (in Christ) are core tenets of Christianity. IIRC originally I called them globalist sarcastically because I don't see how they are compatible with might makes right, or nationalism.</quote> There's no political ideology love and faith are more compatible with than nationalist. Faith in God, love for your family and people, leading to a stable, safe, prosperous society. That is nationalism in a nutshell. Watch Trump's famous speech in Poland. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>A) America is not a particularly Christian country, and arguably has never been</quote> WRONG! Read even just the Declaration of Independence. How do you call yourself a Christian (or an American) if you hold such obviously false positions? <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>B) And how d'you propose he's gonna do that when he has shown no signs of caring about them beyond a lip service level?</quote> If there is a will, there are thousands of ways. Whether there's really a will is questionable, you're right about that. But there's also a deep state that obstructs Trump so much that every single inch is gained after struggle. He must clean it up if anything is to be done. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>From the same religion and culture.</quote> You must help your people first. You help yourself and your family first. As part of people X, you help your compatriots first, foreigners after. As a Christian, you obviously prioritise Christians over atheists and other religions. There is nothing more natural than this. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>What's the difference, then?</quote> The difference is massive. I'm arguing from a pragmatic position, you and especially these misguided "liberals" attacking me are arguing from a position of unachievable (not to mention unpractical) idealism. I ACKNOWLEDGE the situation as it is in objective reality, and I point out how things should be in the desired future. You mix up the two things. In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right." Any study of history that is beyond painfully superficial will reveal that that's never really the case, and that wars are fought for any reason but morality or "good" and "evil." You must remember. Humans will be the same no matter how much technology changes. No amount of brainwashing can change that. Communists already tried. It didn't work. Now, the cultural branch of marxism are trying. It's not working. Other anti-human factions will surely try, too. It won't work. We must operate with the knowledge of how humans are, and work from there to advance mankind. NOT try to change humans. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted...</cite> <quote>@Tom_Bombadil just wanted to say thanks for debating Vlado from a religious angle. It's probably really annoying and tiring, but the sources are valuable to me, and taking the time to educate others is something I bet Christ wanted from his flock. Thank you.</quote> Let me remind you that I am an Orthodox Christian and he isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 2:51:33 AM #184:	Jakyl25 posted... Also its kinda funny going hyper-Christian while at the same time propping up Japan as the ideal nation. Religion alone does not define a nation. Japanese culture is different from Christian culture, but there is great overlap of core values. Japanese are lucky to also have political leaders who look out for them, unlike Western Europe, Canada, USA, Australia, etc. Hardcore_Adult posted... Hey, Vlado. You been to Russia? Just asking as you're WAY closer to it than I am! No, but I hope to go one day. It's a beautiful country. :) Jakyl25 posted... Vlados not gonna like this... I've pointed out a new threads ago that Francis is a heretic even to Catholicism. He is a simple-minded globalist puppet. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901832075] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Also its kinda funny going hyper-Christian while at the same time propping up Japan as the ideal nation.</quote> Religion alone does not define a nation. Japanese culture is different from Christian culture, but there is great overlap of core values. Japanese are lucky to also have political leaders who look out for them, unlike Western Europe, Canada, USA, Australia, etc. <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted...</cite> <quote>Hey, Vlado. You been to Russia? Just asking as you're WAY closer to it than I am!</quote> No, but I hope to go one day. It's a beautiful country. :) <cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Vlados not gonna like this...</quote> I've pointed out a new threads ago that Francis is a heretic even to Catholicism. He is a simple-minded globalist puppet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/23/18 3:00:05 AM #185:	Vladdy plz respond 2 162 --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901832288] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Vladdy plz respond 2 162</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/23/18 4:12:28 AM #186:	Vlado posted... In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right. I dunno if that holds true in a globalist era, where outside perspectives can assess conflicts Take the American conquest of the natives for example. At the time, yes, it got passed down as proper manifest destiny. Those savages were just in the way. Over time, and with reflection, we are seeing the shift towards That was a bad thing we did. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901833774] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote> In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right.</quote> I dunno if that holds true in a globalist era, where outside perspectives can assess conflicts Take the American conquest of the natives for example. At the time, yes, it got passed down as proper manifest destiny. Those savages were just in the way. Over time, and with reflection, we are seeing the shift towards That was a bad thing we did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 5:07:12 AM #187:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Vladdy plz respond 2 162 Why, though. That's straight-up trolling. Jakyl25 posted... Vlado posted... In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right. I dunno if that holds true in a globalist era, where outside perspectives can assess conflicts Take the American conquest of the natives for example. At the time, yes, it got passed down as proper manifest destiny. Those savages were just in the way. Over time, and with reflection, we are seeing the shift towards That was a bad thing we did. ? That's not a property of the "globalist era" (1991-2015). Lots of people didn't like to kill the "savages" at the time, either. At the end, only the actions actually matter, not the opinions and sympathy. And those in power take the decisions for the actions. That's one thing you truly fail to grasp. WHAT HAPPENED matters. Not WHY, not WHAT YOU FEEL about it, not WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED otherwise. Judge by actions, not words, not feelings and opinions. That's one thing where our political standpoints fundamentally differ. It must be very clear that this here is not just some argument where people try to outsmart each other, this here is two sides coming from diametrically opposed political viewpoints. You represent the old globalist order with US at the top that died circa 2015, I represent the emerging multipolar world of numerous strong nations maintaining balance in the world by maintaining the power balance between themselves. USA has today become a joke, a shadow of its former self, thanks to globalism. Trump reduced to begging China to buy US farm produce... The country has never been so divided politically, and it's because people in the red states see what's truly happening, while the likes of you are sedated or even want to see their country crumble. You must understand, no matter which side prevails, the conflict in the US is about the future of the US alone now. The world is already out of globalism's reach. CIA assets getting crushed by the Syrian army shows it as clearly as any other big event unfolding around us in the last few years. When's the last time globalism achieved a significant military or even electoral victory? Even Macron's win in France was only possible because the puppetmasters presented him as a "new" face, forming a "new" party. Other than that, losses or at least decline everywhere. Wins or at least increase in the results of nationalists everywhere. And that's despite google, facebook and fully globalist-controlled old media having all but an iron grip on information among the average people in "the west." You can only do so much with an ideology that rejects objective reality. People look around and see that what google, facebook and the media tell them is a lie. YOU CANNOT STOP IT. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901834767] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Vladdy plz respond 2 162</quote> Why, though. That's straight-up trolling. <cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote> In a perfect world, "might makes right" would not need to be true, but in the world we live in, it is. Look at any war in history and what the winners do to the losers. "Winners write history" is fact. The winner will always present himself as the "good guy" and "morally right.</quote> I dunno if that holds true in a globalist era, where outside perspectives can assess conflicts Take the American conquest of the natives for example. At the time, yes, it got passed down as proper manifest destiny. Those savages were just in the way. Over time, and with reflection, we are seeing the shift towards That was a bad thing we did.</quote> ? That's not a property of the "globalist era" (1991-2015). Lots of people didn't like to kill the "savages" at the time, either. At the end, only the actions actually matter, not the opinions and sympathy. And those in power take the decisions for the actions. That's one thing you truly fail to grasp. WHAT HAPPENED matters. Not WHY, not WHAT YOU FEEL about it, not WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED otherwise. Judge by actions, not words, not feelings and opinions. That's one thing where our political standpoints fundamentally differ. It must be very clear that this here is not just some argument where people try to outsmart each other, this here is two sides coming from diametrically opposed political viewpoints. You represent the old globalist order with US at the top that died circa 2015, I represent the emerging multipolar world of numerous strong nations maintaining balance in the world by maintaining the power balance between themselves. USA has today become a joke, a shadow of its former self, thanks to globalism. Trump reduced to begging China to buy US farm produce... The country has never been so divided politically, and it's because people in the red states see what's truly happening, while the likes of you are sedated or even want to see their country crumble. You must understand, no matter which side prevails, the conflict in the US is about the future of the US alone now. The world is already out of globalism's reach. CIA assets getting crushed by the Syrian army shows it as clearly as any other big event unfolding around us in the last few years. When's the last time globalism achieved a significant military or even electoral victory? Even Macron's win in France was only possible because the puppetmasters presented him as a "new" face, forming a "new" party. Other than that, losses or at least decline everywhere. Wins or at least increase in the results of nationalists everywhere. And that's despite google, facebook and fully globalist-controlled old media having all but an iron grip on information among the average people in "the west." You can only do so much with an ideology that rejects objective reality. People look around and see that what google, facebook and the media tell them is a lie. YOU CANNOT STOP IT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 5:25:10 AM #188:	https://zeldin.house.gov/sites/zeldin.house.gov/files/ZELDIN_051_xml%205.21%20v2.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a22F2XhgghE" data-time=" --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901835046] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote> https://zeldin.house.gov/sites/zeldin.house.gov/files/ZELDIN_051_xml%205.21%20v2.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a22F2XhgghE" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 05/23/18 5:52:44 AM #189:	Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board. But seriously stop feeding him. There is nothing to gain and hes literally posting right off the playbook. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:901835485] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board. But seriously stop feeding him. There is nothing to gain and hes literally posting right off the playbook.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hardcore_Adult 05/23/18 5:57:37 AM #190:	Yeah but, Red it's like some people, not dropping a dox on anyone, LIVE to feud with Vlado! --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted [p:901835548] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but, Red it's like some people, not dropping a dox on anyone, LIVE to feud with Vlado!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/23/18 7:05:35 AM #191:	Vlado posted... Religion alone does not define a nation. Japanese culture is different from Christian culture, but there is great overlap of core values. but non-Christians don't follow God's commands, you argued Vlado posted... I have bad news for you. The New Testament is even harsher on globalist pseudo-values. I like how you post this right after I attack your position with a line of NT verses Vlado posted... You must help your people first. You help yourself and your family first. As part of people X, you help your compatriots first, foreigners after. As a Christian, you obviously prioritise Christians over atheists and other religions. There is nothing more natural than this. Natural, sure. Jesus wants us to strive for being better than we naturally are. The Great Commission is a thing. Paul wandering around the Middle East evangelizing is a thing. The Good Samaritan and the woman at the well are things. Evangelizing the Ethiopian dude was a thing. Love your enemies is a thing. Love your neighbor is a thing. Christ being presented to the Gentiles is quite frequently a thing. 32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. Vlado posted... Let me remind you that I am an Orthodox Christian and he isn't. This is true- I am Protestant. I've not encountered much Orthodox in the US so I'm not very educated on the difference beyond their Easter being like two weeks off from ours. red13n posted... But seriously stop feeding him. idk it's a nice platform to clear up some religion stuff I think --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901836705] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Religion alone does not define a nation. Japanese culture is different from Christian culture, but there is great overlap of core values.</quote> but non-Christians don't follow God's commands, you argued <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I have bad news for you. The New Testament is even harsher on globalist pseudo-values.</quote> I like how you post this right after I attack your position with a line of NT verses <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>You must help your people first. You help yourself and your family first. As part of people X, you help your compatriots first, foreigners after. As a Christian, you obviously prioritise Christians over atheists and other religions. There is nothing more natural than this.</quote> Natural, sure. Jesus wants us to strive for being better than we naturally are. The Great Commission is a thing. Paul wandering around the Middle East evangelizing is a thing. The Good Samaritan and the woman at the well are things. Evangelizing the Ethiopian dude was a thing. Love your enemies is a thing. Love your neighbor is a thing. Christ being presented to the Gentiles is quite frequently a thing. 32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Let me remind you that I am an Orthodox Christian and he isn't.</quote> This is true- I am Protestant. I've not encountered much Orthodox in the US so I'm not very educated on the difference beyond their Easter being like two weeks off from ours. <cite>red13n posted...</cite> <quote>But seriously stop feeding him.</quote> idk it's a nice platform to clear up some religion stuff I think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 7:38:39 AM #192:	red13n posted... Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board. But seriously stop feeding him. There is nothing to gain and hes literally posting right off the playbook. lol, and then people tell me I'm into conspiracy theories. Is it so hard for you to believe that there are people who still have values in this world? Oh wait, you're literally a furry... Tom Bombadil posted... but non-Christians don't follow God's commands, you argued I said we can't expect them to... And is that all you have to say about this? Tom Bombadil posted... I like how you post this right after I attack your position with a line of NT verses It would seem you interpret them poorly then. Please explain how those verses defend globalist "values." Tom Bombadil posted... Natural, sure. Jesus wants us to strive for being better than we naturally are. The Great Commission is a thing. Paul wandering around the Middle East evangelizing is a thing. The Good Samaritan and the woman at the well are things. Evangelizing the Ethiopian dude was a thing. Love your enemies is a thing. Love your neighbor is a thing. Christ being presented to the Gentiles is quite frequently a thing. 32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. The point is most certainly not that you should not love your family or people. The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal. It is EXACTLY because I want people to be better versions of themselves that I preach Christian values. You argue against that... Therefore your goal is different. You say degeneracy irks you, and yet you do nothing about it. Sin grows and grows, you sit by idly and tell me to love the sinner and let them do what they want. NO! At least post against it on a gaming message board on the internet. That's better than nothing. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901837469] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>red13n posted...</cite> <quote>Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board. But seriously stop feeding him. There is nothing to gain and hes literally posting right off the playbook.</quote> lol, and then people tell me I'm into conspiracy theories. Is it so hard for you to believe that there are people who still have values in this world? Oh wait, you're literally a furry... <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>but non-Christians don't follow God's commands, you argued</quote> I said we can't expect them to... And is that all you have to say about this? <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>I like how you post this right after I attack your position with a line of NT verses</quote> It would seem you interpret them poorly then. Please explain how those verses defend globalist "values." <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>Natural, sure. Jesus wants us to strive for being better than we naturally are. The Great Commission is a thing. Paul wandering around the Middle East evangelizing is a thing. The Good Samaritan and the woman at the well are things. Evangelizing the Ethiopian dude was a thing. Love your enemies is a thing. Love your neighbor is a thing. Christ being presented to the Gentiles is quite frequently a thing. 32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.</quote> The point is most certainly not that you should not love your family or people. The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal. It is EXACTLY because I want people to be better versions of themselves that I preach Christian values. You argue against that... Therefore your goal is different. You say degeneracy irks you, and yet you do nothing about it. Sin grows and grows, you sit by idly and tell me to love the sinner and let them do what they want. NO! At least post against it on a gaming message board on the internet. That's better than nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/23/18 7:52:14 AM #193:	Vlado posted... Please explain how those verses defend globalist "values." you seem to define "globalism" as "giving a flying crap about people who aren't like me" and Jesus seems to be in favor of that Vlado posted... And is that all you have to say about this? yep Vlado posted... The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal. yep I too remember when Jesus was on the cross and went "Father screw these guys for they know not what they do" Vlado posted... Sin grows and grows, you sit by idly and tell me to love the sinner and let them do what they want. these are two different things and only one of them I am pushing for --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901837772] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Please explain how those verses defend globalist "values."</quote> you seem to define "globalism" as "giving a flying crap about people who aren't like me" and Jesus seems to be in favor of that <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>And is that all you have to say about this?</quote> yep <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal.</quote> yep I too remember when Jesus was on the cross and went "Father screw these guys for they know not what they do" <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Sin grows and grows, you sit by idly and tell me to love the sinner and let them do what they want.</quote> these are two different things and only one of them I am pushing for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/23/18 7:54:57 AM #194:	bonus question: How do you define "Christian values"? --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901837830] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>bonus question: How do you define "Christian values"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 05/23/18 8:09:09 AM #195:	Lol my fanfic from earlier got deleted. Poor snowflake with hurt feelings --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:901838185] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Lol my fanfic from earlier got deleted. Poor snowflake with hurt feelings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 05/23/18 8:21:24 AM #196:	Tom Bombadil posted... you seem to define "globalism" as "giving a flying crap about people who aren't like me" No, I don't. Prioritising your own people does not mean you do not care about anyone else. Tom Bombadil posted... yep I too remember when Jesus was on the cross and went "Father screw these guys for they know not what they do" I repeat: The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal. Nor to prioritise outsiders over our own. That's madness! Maybe you were thought otherwise at Protestant school, in which case, sad. You were taught wrong. Tom Bombadil posted... these are two different things and only one of them I am pushing for So how are you working to convince the populace to stay away from degeneracy? Tom Bombadil posted... bonus question: How do you define "Christian values"? That's an easy one. Read the New Testament, particularly what Christ says. It seems you fell for the "hopelessly passive pacifist Jesus" meme, even though the New Testament directly rejects it. Christ whips the merchants out of the temple, He says He's bringing us not peace, but a sword. He knows conflict is inevitable, and that there will be people who will reject Him, and that those people will come after Him and the ones who accept Him. Clearly, Christ does not reject violence entirely. When it's necessary, He employs it. You've fallen victim to exaggerating certain verses and conveniently ignoring others. Use your own head! Love, faith, knowledge, belief in something greater than yourself (God), rejecting degeneracy, striving your whole life towards God. In other words, never falling into complacency, always striving to be a better person. Life is a constant struggle, and that is how it has to be. You will reach Heaven if you do not falter in that struggle. It is not a sin to protect your people. Peace___Frog posted... Lol my fanfic from earlier got deleted. Poor snowflake with hurt feelings I have never marked a post in my 14 years on gamefaqs. Stop projecting - if I cared what you thought about me, I wouldn't be posting these topics for years. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:901838470] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>you seem to define "globalism" as "giving a flying crap about people who aren't like me"</quote> No, I don't. Prioritising your own people does not mean you do not care about anyone else. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>yep I too remember when Jesus was on the cross and went "Father screw these guys for they know not what they do"</quote> I repeat: The point is most certainly not that you should love those who seek to destroy you (and let them destroy you). It's a joke if you interpret it that way - read what you quoted! The point is simply that you can be a better person if you can extend your love even towards the ones who are misguided. Christ does not tell us to be suicidal. Nor to prioritise outsiders over our own. That's madness! Maybe you were thought otherwise at Protestant school, in which case, sad. You were taught wrong. <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>these are two different things and only one of them I am pushing for</quote> So how are you working to convince the populace to stay away from degeneracy? <cite>Tom Bombadil posted...</cite> <quote>bonus question: How do you define "Christian values"?</quote> That's an easy one. Read the New Testament, particularly what Christ says. It seems you fell for the "hopelessly passive pacifist Jesus" meme, even though the New Testament directly rejects it. Christ whips the merchants out of the temple, He says He's bringing us not peace, but a sword. He knows conflict is inevitable, and that there will be people who will reject Him, and that those people will come after Him and the ones who accept Him. Clearly, Christ does not reject violence entirely. When it's necessary, He employs it. You've fallen victim to exaggerating certain verses and conveniently ignoring others. Use your own head! Love, faith, knowledge, belief in something greater than yourself (God), rejecting degeneracy, striving your whole life towards God. In other words, never falling into complacency, always striving to be a better person. Life is a constant struggle, and that is how it has to be. You will reach Heaven if you do not falter in that struggle. It is not a sin to protect your people. <cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Lol my fanfic from earlier got deleted. Poor snowflake with hurt feelings</quote> I have never marked a post in my 14 years on gamefaqs. Stop projecting - if I cared what you thought about me, I wouldn't be posting these topics for years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hardcore_Adult 05/23/18 8:30:26 AM #197:	Matt Hardy: What was IIIIIN that fic to warrant deeeeeletion? --- I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... <cite>Hardcore_Adult posted [p:901838708] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>Matt Hardy: What was IIIIIN that fic to warrant deeeeeletion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/23/18 9:31:44 AM #198:	Vlado posted... No, I don't. Prioritising your own people does not mean you do not care about anyone else. I agree I guess, but I feel like it's an easy trap to be so consumed with "prioritising your own people" that you never get around to the "care about anyone else" part. Based on your posts here and elsewhere, it seems to be a trap you've fallen into, along with a decent chunk of the church. Vlado posted... I repeat: well if you're not gonna add anything I guess i don't have to either I will add more examples of "love your enemies" tho: -Paul was seeking to eradicate Christianity before God brought him over to become one of the greatest apostles -That time that Paul could've escaped prison really easily but instead stayed and converted the jailer -Telling Peter to put away his sword when he tried to cut Jesus out of the arrest, then healing the wound he inflicted on the bad guy Vlado posted... You've fallen victim to exaggerating certain verses and conveniently ignoring others. Use your own head! Maybe, although you're putting words in my mouth. Never called Jesus a pacifist, but there are certainly also examples of Him showing kindness or love or at least mercy to His enemies, and having His followers do the same. More than the one time with the Temple, although it certainly evens out if you look at all the war and stuff in the OT. Vlado posted... Love, faith, knowledge, belief in something greater than yourself (God), rejecting degeneracy, striving your whole life towards God. In other words, never falling into complacency, always striving to be a better person. Life is a constant struggle, and that is how it has to be. You will reach Heaven if you do not falter in that struggle. Only thing I disagree with here kinda sorta is that you reach Heaven by accepting Christ's gift of salvation, not by works. You're gonna falter in the struggle. You're human. Also I don't see much love in your posts, with the exception of how welcoming you are to non-b8ers. Vlado posted... So how are you working to convince the populace to stay away from degeneracy? By treating the root problem of separation from Christ. Even if you can somehow reduce degeneracy (I'm assuming your "degeneracy" is interchangable with my "sin") by screaming on social media, you still have a buncha people out there that need salvation, and will still need salvation no matter what particular sin you talk them out of. I'd rather see a "degenerate" who has come to Christ and is trying than somebody who is still unsaved but hey they're doing what we want them to do with their genitals On top of that, I think it's probably more effective to try to display a good example of Christ to the unbeliever than to tell them all the reasons they suck. I will admit that I am probably not as active evangelically as I should be, but it's my approach to at least try to plant some seeds and nurture relationships that could bear fruit later. There's a pretty big (and more frequently accurate than I'd like) stereotype of (American) Christianity as racist and homophobic and arrogant and generally hateful. If I can present an alternative narrative to the rest of the world, I think they'll be more likely to come around later, and if not, at least I've made the world a bit better. Maybe I'm too soft, but I'd rather err on the side of being too soft than too hard. there are also plenty of people screaming about lgbt and abortion so that's an angle that's already covered whether it needs to be or not --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901840829] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>No, I don't. Prioritising your own people does not mean you do not care about anyone else.</quote> I agree I guess, but I feel like it's an easy trap to be so consumed with "prioritising your own people" that you never get around to the "care about anyone else" part. Based on your posts here and elsewhere, it seems to be a trap you've fallen into, along with a decent chunk of the church. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I repeat:</quote> well if you're not gonna add anything I guess i don't have to either I will add more examples of "love your enemies" tho: -Paul was seeking to eradicate Christianity before God brought him over to become one of the greatest apostles -That time that Paul could've escaped prison really easily but instead stayed and converted the jailer -Telling Peter to put away his sword when he tried to cut Jesus out of the arrest, then healing the wound he inflicted on the bad guy <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>You've fallen victim to exaggerating certain verses and conveniently ignoring others. Use your own head!</quote> Maybe, although you're putting words in my mouth. Never called Jesus a pacifist, but there are certainly also examples of Him showing kindness or love or at least mercy to His enemies, and having His followers do the same. More than the one time with the Temple, although it certainly evens out if you look at all the war and stuff in the OT. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Love, faith, knowledge, belief in something greater than yourself (God), rejecting degeneracy, striving your whole life towards God. In other words, never falling into complacency, always striving to be a better person. Life is a constant struggle, and that is how it has to be. You will reach Heaven if you do not falter in that struggle.</quote> Only thing I disagree with here kinda sorta is that you reach Heaven by accepting Christ's gift of salvation, not by works. You're gonna falter in the struggle. You're human. Also I don't see much love in your posts, with the exception of how welcoming you are to non-b8ers. <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>So how are you working to convince the populace to stay away from degeneracy?</quote> By treating the root problem of separation from Christ. Even if you can somehow reduce degeneracy (I'm assuming your "degeneracy" is interchangable with my "sin") by screaming on social media, you still have a buncha people out there that need salvation, and will still need salvation no matter what particular sin you talk them out of. I'd rather see a "degenerate" who has come to Christ and is trying than somebody who is still unsaved but hey they're doing what we want them to do with their genitals On top of that, I think it's probably more effective to try to display a good example of Christ to the unbeliever than to tell them all the reasons they suck. I will admit that I am probably not as active evangelically as I should be, but it's my approach to at least try to plant some seeds and nurture relationships that could bear fruit later. There's a pretty big (and more frequently accurate than I'd like) stereotype of (American) Christianity as racist and homophobic and arrogant and generally hateful. If I can present an alternative narrative to the rest of the world, I think they'll be more likely to come around later, and if not, at least I've made the world a bit better. Maybe I'm too soft, but I'd rather err on the side of being too soft than too hard. there are also plenty of people screaming about lgbt and abortion so that's an angle that's already covered whether it needs to be or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 05/23/18 9:33:44 AM #199:	bonus question: What's the difference between Orthodoxy and Protestantism? My entire exposure to it has been A) you, and B) an old manager telling everybody we were weird because we celebrated Easter on the wrong day, so I don't actually know where you're coming from theologically. --- Look at all those chickens There's a hunger in the land, there's a reckoning still to be reckoned <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:901840913] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote>bonus question: What's the difference between Orthodoxy and Protestantism? My entire exposure to it has been A) you, and B) an old manager telling everybody we were weird because we celebrated Easter on the wrong day, so I don't actually know where you're coming from theologically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/23/18 9:47:11 AM #200:	red13n posted... Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board. Im trying to feed his family --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:901841432] in Nationalis... [t:76628976]...</cite> <quote><cite>red13n posted...</cite> <quote>Can we please stop feeding vlado hits. Hes in all likelihood getting paid for this or his family/loved ones/who knows arent getting murdered for this. He likely has other online personas on larger sites and this is probably what he needs to do to continue to be allowed to make some of his more normal topics he makes on this board.</quote> Im trying to feed his family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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