Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 445: This is (Vince McMahon's) America

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So what's tonight was the tipping point for homicidal Vince ideas JaKyL?

Ummmm did you not see the Zayn segment?
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RaidenZeroX posted...

I enjoyed it. Still disappointing that they've completely deflated Strowman's momentum, but it had to happen.

No man on Raw has any momentum

You could say Rollins maybe, but is his awesomeness pushing him higher? Or is he just locked in his role?
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I guess thats not entirely fair. B-Team have momentum
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B-Team is gonna save Raw
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Jakyl25 posted...

Ummmm did you not see the Zayn segment?

Thought it was probably this

Jakyl25 posted...

RaidenZeroX posted...

I enjoyed it. Still disappointing that they've completely deflated Strowman's momentum, but it had to happen.

No man on Raw has any momentum

You could say Rollins maybe, but is his awesomeness pushing him higher? Or is he just locked in his role?

Why do I feel a champion vs champion angle coming?
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Man, I hope they do champion vs. champion and Brock wins, so all the RAW roster fights over the tag titles as the top belt.
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Champion vs Champion where brock wins is actually a good setup because then you do a triple threat 2 fall match for each of the belts and the guys pin each other
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UInstinctGogeta posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Ummmm did you not see the Zayn segment?

Thought it was probably this

Exactly that. Prime candidate for WrestleCrap's worst of 2018, guaranteed.
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

UInstinctGogeta posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Ummmm did you not see the Zayn segment?

Thought it was probably this

Exactly that. Prime candidate for WrestleCrap's worst of 2018, guaranteed.

Here is my biggest problem with it....

IT WAS OBVIOUS IT WAS GONNA BE TERRIBLE LAST WEEK!!!! I said last week after spoilers came out "oh, they decided to kill Lashley" because it was that obvious this would be this god awful. I don't get this company at all.

Fuck Vince, but fuck NBC and Fox for paying this brain dead senile piece of shit racist sexist oxygen stealing scumbag! !!!

UInstinctGogeta posted...

brain dead senile piece of shit racist sexist oxygen stealing scumbag! !!!

Not confirmed?
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Is b team coming out to 3days grace
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That's true about Rollins. I'd like to think him getting the pin is the start of him moving ahead of Roman, but when the first hour of the show is all about Roman getting "screwed" you know he's the focal point.
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Saw that Rollins will defend the IC title against Jinder next week. While I think Rollins retains, I have to note one thing...

If Jinder does win the IC title next week, then in the span of one year, he'll have gone from not wrestling for any title to only being one belt away from achieving the grand slam. Considering they've been handing out grand slam spots like candy in the past year, this wouldn't be surprising at all.
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The only possible reason I can see them having Jinder be the one to beat Rollins right now is so Roman can win the IC belt at MitB, and I don't see that happening. Right now it seems like they're still trying to keep Roman warm for eventually overcoming management and taking down Brock, so having him win the midcard title doesn't fit there.

Plus, Rollins is on such a hot streak right now, why mess that up.
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RAW was BORE.

Pretty much a throwaway episode without anything of real Consequence.
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

RAW was BORE.

Pretty much a throwaway episode without anything of real Consequence.

You just described pretty much every Raw!
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This one was ESPECIALLY!

Even without that Lashley/Zayn Horseshit, It still would have been Horrible.
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I'm hoping that management realizes that those segments like Zayn/Lashley are nothing but garbage. The crowd was basically silent.
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In some situations, It's best no to say anything. Silence is often the loudest message a person can send.
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It's unfortunate the Vince is obviously deaf, so he just hears what he wants to hear in his head.
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I don't remember smiling during a match as much as I did during Dragon Lee vs Taguchi. Great comedy wrestling.
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From the Observer site:

WWE is looking at lengthening its pay-per-views by one hour starting with Money in the Bank.

Sky Italia on Facebook posted that the Money in the Bank show would be moved to a four-hour window starting at 7 p.m. Eastern time, from the previous 8 p.m. start.

Other cable providers were also contacted today with that information. They were told that most of the shows would run from 7-11 p.m., with the big four shows running from 6-11 p.m. It is unclear whether pre-game shows would be dropped or whether that would mean matches would begin 30 minutes to 90 minutes before the PPV start, depending on the show, as has been the case so far.

Corroborating this information, inDemand's website is listing a 6:30 p.m. start for Money in the Bank. Traditionally they do a 30-minute countdown show prior to going live.

WWE has not responded to questions on this subject.

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Booooooooooo
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I'm not surprised by that announcement but that sounds exhausting lol
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It's ok, everything on that site is fake, so they're in fact reducing PPV length.
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Dave taking mailbag questions:

Q: With overall company revenue set to massively increase when the new TV deals take effect, will the wrestlers get raises or benefits?

Dave: I sure hope so!

Somewhere in the distance Vince probably had a sudden fit of laughter he couldnt explain
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He makes an interesting point that Fox in particular is going to be on their ass about ratings, because they wont carry that network on their backs like they do for USA. SD currently is 500,000 viewers below what Fox airs on Fridays right now.

This would, in theory, give the SD wrestlers leverage if they wanted to threaten a sitout to demand better financial treatment.
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Does FOX have any escape clauses if ratings dip below what they are paying for?
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voltch posted...

Does FOX have any escape clauses if ratings dip below what they are paying for?

The escape clause is moving them to FS1 and devaluing them for the next deal
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Let's be honest though, it was pretty funny when Lashley put the broom between the guy's legs and tossed him out of the ring by racking him

The segment was shit but that spot was nice
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So FOX's high expectations might lead to hopefully better than normal shows right?! Lol
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eaedwards6400 posted...

So FOX's high expectations might lead to hopefully better than normal shows right?! Lol

They are almost certainly going to treat it as the A show over Raw once it moves

But they treat Raw as the A show now and look where that gets us
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I like Noam Dars suggestion that he needs to be on SD every week welcoming us to WWE on FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUX
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So what does APWT think?

Is WWE capable of producing a weekly SD for a broadcast network that gets better ratings than Raw does now?
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Well how has FOX treated its own A-shows that are under 3 hours?
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Bold prediction the ratings will ultimately go down from USA despite a higher starting point as the Fox viewing audience proves to be more fickle than the USA audience.
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Jakyl25 posted...

So what does APWT think?

Is WWE capable of producing a weekly SD for a broadcast network that gets better ratings than Raw does now?

On Friday, no

Any other weekday, probably

I think they think they are.

I know Vince thinks he can.

But it's always a toss up. But if they were smart, they'd start listening to what people want for a damn change and build around that.
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UInstinctGogeta posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

So what does APWT think?

Is WWE capable of producing a weekly SD for a broadcast network that gets better ratings than Raw does now?

On Friday, no

Any other weekday, probably

Just to clarify, they WILL still be live
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Also remember that in fall 2019 the XFL will be close to relaunching

Vince swears it will divert none of his time and energy away from WWE though <_<
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

But it's always a toss up. But if they were smart, they'd start listening to what people want for a damn change and build around that.

If people would just start accepting Roman as the face of the company we'd be getting what we want already. This is all our fault! #VinceLogic
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voltch posted...

Does FOX have any escape clauses if ratings dip below what they are paying for?

Probably. Got that shit tucked like a piece!
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You know, it kind of makes sense why Fox cancelled a ton of their shows or gave them one more season because of how much they'll be paying for this.

Smackdown currently gets a 0.7 rating and Agents of SHIELD, which people have been suspecting should have been canceled season after season due to declined ratings, has a 0.5 rating.

I would go ahead and assume FOX isn't paying nearly that much for Agents of SHIELD when compared to this Smackdown deal. So does FOX expect a ratings bump from this on top of the 0.7? Because that seems questionable.
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FOX isn't paying for Agents of SHIELD. That's ABC.
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I have no idea why I thought it was FOX. What does FOX have on Fridays now then?
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I looked it up and FOX on Fridays they have Master Chefs Junior which gets a 0.8 rating over two hours.

...They have to be expecting WWE to do better than this.
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Clearly, the best way to make it the A Show is to have it feature the B-Team
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I looked it up and FOX on Fridays they have Master Chefs Junior which gets a 0.8 rating over two hours.

...They have to be expecting WWE to do better than this.

Look at the viewership numbers though. I should be more accurate and say that instead of ratings
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