Poll of the Day > If someone broke into your house and you had a gun, would you shoot them?

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knivesX2004 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

I would rather shoot someone before they can hurt my family. Why hide while waiting for the cops when they could fine and kill you in that time?

You would rather risk your family's life by playing cowboy and attacking an intruder (fun fact, it's usually a family member shot by accident) before hiding and hoping they go away?

Jesus what kind of valuables do you people have that you are willing to risk your family's lives over?
It better be solid gold bars or irreplaceable photographs.

My house is very small. For them to search the whole house wouldn't take long. And just hiding means they if they find us, they could kill us way before the cops would get here. I would rather me and family stay alive rather than hiding and dying because I didn't do anything. I'm not playing cowboy, either. Every situation is different, though. So, depending on the situation, maybe I won't shoot. But if I had to shoot the intruder to protect my family, then I will.

ImmortalityV posted...

No stupid object is worth a human life. Not even the glorious Nintendo Switch

Oh. Donald is back. How was your time away?
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LinkPizza posted...

But if I had to shoot the intruder to protect my family, then I will.

But if you had to comply and let him take your shit to protect your family you wouldn't?

knivesX2004 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

But if I had to shoot the intruder to protect my family, then I will.

But if you had to comply and let him take your shit to protect your family you wouldn't?

If I had to, then I would.
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Yes better him than me.
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LinkPizza posted...

If I had to, then I would.

Is that before or after you open fire?

knivesX2004 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

If I had to, then I would.

Is that before or after you open fire?

What the fuck is your problem? You're acting like I'm just going to shoot immediately. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. But as soon as something happens, I'll make the decision based on that. The first thing I would do is try to make sure my family is safe and hiding. And if I have to take shot, I will. I;m not just going to openfire and empty a clip just because. And I would try not to shoot, of I did't have to. But if I felt that it was necessary, I would. And I would also make sure not to aim at my family. I would hope I would hit anybody except the person I'm aiming at, if possible. Don't sit there and act like you know me from me answering one question. I would do what was necessary to protect my family. If you don't agree, I don't fucking care. And if you wouldn't do what it took to protect your family, then that's on you.
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LinkPizza posted...

What the fuck is your problem? You're acting like I'm just going to shoot immediately. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

I'm just asking questions dude, you're the one freaking out, I can't even imagine how volatile you'd be in a situation like that.
You seem like maybe a 7/10 on the responsible gun owner scale but what about the people who aren't? They're the problem.

All my life people have been telling me "life isn't fair" and now that's the only excuse people can seem to give.
Tough shit. Some asshole (well, hundreds and hundreds, and statistics and facts) ruined your gun fun so now you all have to suffer. Fucking deal with it and find a new hobby.

We've changed the constitution before. We can and should do it again.

knivesX2004 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

What the fuck is your problem? You're acting like I'm just going to shoot immediately. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.

I'm just asking questions dude, you're the one freaking out, I can't even imagine how volatile you'd be in a situation like that.
You seem like maybe a 7/10 on the responsible gun owner scale but what about the people who aren't? They're the problem.

All my life people have been telling me "life isn't fair" and now that's the only excuse people can seem to give.
Tough shit. Some asshole (well, hundreds and hundreds, and statistics and facts) ruined your gun fun so now you all have to suffer. Fucking deal with it and find a new hobby.

We've changed the constitution before. We can and should do it again.

I'm not freaking out. I'm mad because of "the questions" you asked. You make it sound like I'm a piece of shit. All I said is that if I had to, I would shoot. I would rather it never come to that. Or that I was ever in this situation. But when it comes down to I have to shoot to protect my family or we die, I'm going to shoot.
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Merely inquisitive.
A lot of invader shootings are shoot first ask questions never. Which is how family members get shot by accident.

It seems like some people in here wouldn't even attempt to communicate with the intruder. They're the problem.

Without question. Fuck them.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Without question. Fuck them.

Congratulations! You just killed a family member's significant other you didn't know about/didn't know was coming over!

Your house. Your right to kill.
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good, fuck in laws.
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knivesX2004 posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Without question. Fuck them.

Congratulations! You just killed a family member's significant other you didn't know about/didn't know was coming over!

I did say no pop-ins.
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I'd abuse them so hard, no court would see it as legal.
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Absolutely.

knivesX2004 posted...

Congratulations! You just killed a family member's significant other you didn't know about/didn't know was coming over!

OP question literally states someone is breaking in. Hopefully my family members have the common sense to tell their guests to not kick in my front door.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I'd use any means necessary to protect myself and my family.

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Rasmoh posted...

OP question literally states someone is breaking in. Hopefully my family members have the common sense to tell their guests to not kick in my front door.

You're telling me you've never sneaked back into the house after curfew?

To the people who say it depends on the situation. Here's one for you.
You hear a loud noise and look down and see your loved one bleeding out on the floor. There's more gunfire coming from your neighbor's house and you see a shadow with a gun pointed right at you.

You shoot him. Woops turns out it was your neighbor and your loved one got hit by a stray bullet that missed his intruder. Now they're both dead but hey at least you still have your gun!

knivesX2004 posted...

Fucking deal with it and find a new hobby.

>Calls it a hobby
>In a topic specifically about the use of firearms in self defense

Are you high homie?
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No. I wouldn't kill a person.

Even if I should.
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TC also said that threatening to shot counts...
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LinkPizza posted...

TC also said that threatening to shot counts...

That's confusing.
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Definitely, I'm putting 2-4 bullets into their chest and then calling the cops to come deal with the mess.
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I mean, first I'd have to get to the whichever gun safe my gun is in and open that to retrieve a gun, then I'd have to head to the ammo safe, which legally must be a separate safe, and open that to retrieve some ammo and load the gun.

By the time I've done all that, the guy's probably stolen most of my shit and left, so no.
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in CA you cant shoot unless they are threatening/harming you/family.

break in, grab tv and start to leave? better not shoot the person who broke in to your home and steals your stuff
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I sleep with an MPX by my bed. So yeah. You break in here, you just signed your own death warrant.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

in CA you cant shoot unless they are threatening/harming you/family.

Breaking into your home is both a violent and threatening act
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knivesX2004 posted...

To the people who say it depends on the situation. Here's one for you.
You hear a loud noise and look down and see your loved one bleeding out on the floor. There's more gunfire coming from your neighbor's house and you see a shadow with a gun pointed right at you.

You shoot him. Woops turns out it was your neighbor and your loved one got hit by a stray bullet that missed his intruder. Now they're both dead but hey at least you still have your gun!

You trip in the streets, you bump in to a little guy spilling his coffee all over him, he gets angry at you so you get belligerent right back.

Later that night you turn on the news, you bumped in to Kim Jong Un, he has declared nuclear war on you and the following day you and your house is a glowing crater. Now you and your immediate neighbours are dead but hey at least you got to use your feet and exercise free speech!

This is of course the best arguement for putting everybody in wheelchairs and denying them freedom of speech.
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knivesX2004 posted...

Damn look at all the cold blooded badasses in here who have never had to kill someone before. I bet it's really easy though and you'll feel super great about doing it because it was self defense. Just like all those soldiers with PTSD and shooter's guilt.

shell shock
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after putting light on them to verify whether or not they are an intruder, the intruder gets shot.

must suck to live in a country/state without castle doctrine. trespassing is illegal, breaking and entering is illegal. when the interaction begins with them breaking two [or more] laws, how can a reasonable person think they won't continue to break other laws?

@knivesX2004

9mm bullets don't travel from house to house.
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Mead posted...

Yes.

To be fair they could avoid getting shot by not breaking into my house though.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

@knivesX2004

9mm bullets don't travel from house to house.

Bullets can travel more than twenty feet no contest. I've shot all kinds of guns before and unless it's an Albany expression, I've never heard of a single gun that can't.

That's kind of the entire point of a gun. To kill at a distance.

Probably yeah. Would be a last resort though. I would threaten first. I dont want to take a life.
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Yes. Absolutely no one I know and care about would ever break into my home so if I hear a door busting down or a window shattering, then I'm going to immediately assume the worst.
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Guns are for weak people.

So how many people here have had their homes broken in and life threatened?

Every single person on a daily basis or is this just paranoia?

Krazy_Kirby posted...

in CA you cant shoot unless they are threatening/harming you/family.

break in, grab tv and start to leave? better not shoot the person who broke in to your home and steals your stuff

Makes sense. TVs are not worth more than human lives, after all.

Note that it doesn't say you have to sit there and do nothing - there's a crime in progress, and you are allowed to attempt to stop it after all - you're just not allowed to deliberately kill the guy doing it. I don't know of too many people who can fight or run very well while carrying a TV, so dropping the guy wouldn't be particularly difficult.
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knivesX2004 posted...

So how many people here have had their homes broken in and life threatened?

Every single person on a daily basis or is this just paranoia?

I actually have, but dude had a knife and i had a bat. I was scared af not gonna lie lol
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knivesX2004 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

@knivesX2004

9mm bullets don't travel from house to house.

Bullets can travel more than twenty feet no contest. I've shot all kinds of guns before and unless it's an Albany expression, I've never heard of a single gun that can't.

That's kind of the entire point of a gun. To kill at a distance.

Yes but a 9mm bullet can't go through multiple walls so your scenario is unplausible.
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Ok so for sake of arguing we'll say you didn't chase him outside or shoot through a window.

Then you don't need a fucking assault rifle for defense and we can ban them and let you keep pistols (for now).

Assault rifles are for hobbiests and soldiers. Not for self defense.

EvilMegas posted...

I actually have, but dude had a knife and i had a bat. I was scared af not gonna lie lol

Jesus, what happened?

Long story short, me and my 3 brothers jumped him with long ranged shit like brooms and he fucked off. It was some random basehead high out of his mind
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SunWuKung420 posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

@knivesX2004

9mm bullets don't travel from house to house.

Bullets can travel more than twenty feet no contest. I've shot all kinds of guns before and unless it's an Albany expression, I've never heard of a single gun that can't.

That's kind of the entire point of a gun. To kill at a distance.

Yes but a 9mm bullet can't go through multiple walls so your scenario is unplausible.

Windows don't exist, i guess?
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knivesX2004 posted...

Damn look at all the cold blooded badasses in here who have never had to kill someone before. I bet it's really easy though and you'll feel super great about doing it because it was self defense. Just like all those soldiers with PTSD and shooter's guilt.

It's called adrenaline, dude. Did you know that in a lot of cases where some one shoots out of self defense, they remember only firing once when in fact they fired multiple times? It's because the part of your brain that goes "oh shit I'm gonna die" gets lit up like mad, and takes over.

And yes, this is also why a lot of innocent people get killed by guns. You see a dark shape at night and your brain enters kill first, think later mode.

ChouBF posted...

It's called adrenaline, dude. Did you know that in a lot of cases where some one shoots out of self defense, they remember only firing once when in fact they fired multiple times? It's because the part of your brain that goes "oh shit I'm gonna die" gets lit up like mad, and takes over.

Exactly. And you think somebody in that state should be able to accidentally kill innocent people? You said it yourself, they freak out and aren't aware of their actions.

Do you guys blame the cop who hid and didn't take out the shooter with his gun? And now teachers who get paid less, get trained less, are in the middle of the shootout, and are scared out of their fucking minds are going to perform better? Absolutely not.

knivesX2004 posted...

And you think somebody in that state should be able to accidentally kill innocent people?

Some one who is breaking into a home is not innocent.

ChouBF posted...

And yes, this is also why a lot of innocent people get killed by guns. You see a dark shape at night and your brain enters kill first, think later mode.

Dude. Come on.

Mead posted...

Yes.

To be fair they could avoid getting shot by not breaking into my house though.

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