Poll of the Day > How come there aren't any anti-alcohol commericals? tired of anti-smoking ones.

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I don't smoke and haven't done so for years.

But I hate all these anti-smoking commercials. Those damn commercials aren't going to stop someone from smoking. I can tell you that as a former smoker.

And if they have all these anti-smoking commercials, why aren't there any anti-alcohol ones? I've only seen a few. I think anti-alcohol/DUI commercials help a lot more. Drunk driving is extremely dangerous and has killed a lot of innocent people. I'm not against alcohol either.
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There aren't any anti-alcohol commercials because, aside from AA, MADD, and a few other organizations, there's no real force to keep people from drinking. Not to mention that TV channels don't want to suggest to people that drinking is bad, since it'd suggest that they're recommending a modern-day prohibition.

At least with smoking, most people have come to recognize or acknowledge that smoking ruins your teeth, lungs, personal hygiene, and the cleanliness of belongings.

With drinking, it pretty much just affects your liver, weight, and senses.

Smoking has zero health benefits unlike alcohol. The only things worth mentioning about alcohol in a negative light are alcoholism, underaged drinking, and drunk driving all of which often kill.
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pipebomb_phil posted...

I can tell you that as a former smoker.

You're representative of millions and millions of people? Wow! (you're probably not totally wrong, but that's a silly argument).

Anyhow, it's easy: alcohol is popular (Im talking public perception, not just usage), while smoking is not. You can be in a big crowd and have a drink without pissing anyone off. You can't be in a big crowd while smoking without pissing off some people.

That's basically it, regardless of which one is worse at the core.

Hop103 posted...

Smoking has zero health benefits unlike alcohol. The only things worth mentioning about alcohol in a negative light are alcoholism, underaged drinking, and drunk driving all of which often kill.

Not really. There's always a handful of "health benefits" to drinking alcohol, but they're always reconsidered or thrown-out after every new study on alcohol is released.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/alcohols-effects-body

Drinking too much on a single occasion or over time can take a serious toll on your health. Heres how alcohol can affect your body:

Brain:
Alcohol interferes with the brains communication pathways, and can affect the way the brain looks and works. These disruptions can change mood and behavior, and make it harder to think clearly and move with coordination.

Heart:
Drinking a lot over a long time or too much on a single occasion can damage the heart, causing problems including:

-Cardiomyopathy Stretching and drooping of heart muscle
-Arrhythmias Irregular heart beat
-Stroke
-High blood pressure

Liver:
Heavy drinking takes a toll on the liver, and can lead to a variety of problems and liver inflammations including:

-Steatosis, or fatty liver
-Alcoholic hepatitis
-Fibrosis
-Cirrhosis

Pancreas:
Alcohol causes the pancreas to produce toxic substances that can eventually lead to pancreatitis, a dangerous inflammation and swelling of the blood vessels in the pancreas that prevents proper digestion.

Cancer:
Drinking too much alcohol can increase your risk of developing certain cancers, including cancers of the:

-Mouth
-Esophagus
-Throat
-Liver
-Breast

Immune System:
Drinking too much can weaken your immune system, making your body a much easier target for disease. Chronic drinkers are more liable to contract diseases like pneumonia and tuberculosis than people who do not drink too much. Drinking a lot on a single occasion slows your bodys ability to ward off infections even up to 24 hours after getting drunk.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/moderate-binge-drinking

WastelandCowboy posted...

Hop103 posted...

Smoking has zero health benefits unlike alcohol. The only things worth mentioning about alcohol in a negative light are alcoholism, underaged drinking, and drunk driving all of which often kill.

Not really. There's always a handful of "health benefits" to drinking alcohol, but they're always reconsidered or thrown-out after every new study on alcohol is released.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/alcohols-effects-body

Drinking too much on a single occasion or over time can take a serious toll on your health. Heres how alcohol can affect your body:

Brain:
Alcohol interferes with the brains communication pathways, and can affect the way the brain looks and works. These disruptions can change mood and behavior, and make it harder to think clearly and move with coordination.

Heart:
Drinking a lot over a long time or too much on a single occasion can damage the heart, causing problems including:

-Cardiomyopathy Stretching and drooping of heart muscle
-Arrhythmias Irregular heart beat
-Stroke
-High blood pressure

Liver:
Heavy drinking takes a toll on the liver, and can lead to a variety of problems and liver inflammations including:

-Steatosis, or fatty liver
-Alcoholic hepatitis
-Fibrosis
-Cirrhosis

Pancreas:
Alcohol causes the pancreas to produce toxic substances that can eventually lead to pancreatitis, a dangerous inflammation and swelling of the blood vessels in the pancreas that prevents proper digestion.

Cancer:
Drinking too much alcohol can increase your risk of developing certain cancers, including cancers of the:

-Mouth
-Esophagus
-Throat
-Liver
-Breast

Immune System:
Drinking too much can weaken your immune system, making your body a much easier target for disease. Chronic drinkers are more liable to contract diseases like pneumonia and tuberculosis than people who do not drink too much. Drinking a lot on a single occasion slows your bodys ability to ward off infections even up to 24 hours after getting drunk.

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/moderate-binge-drinking

All that is about binge drinking though (something that most people stop doing once they are out of college).

Having one drink at night does have health benefits:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/alcohol-full-story/
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Largely because smoking kills a lot more people compared to alcohol related deaths
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pipebomb_phil posted...

I don't smoke and haven't done so for years.

But I hate all these anti-smoking commercials. Those damn commercials aren't going to stop someone from smoking. I can tell you that as a former smoker.

And if they have all these anti-smoking commercials, why aren't there any anti-alcohol ones? I've only seen a few. I think anti-alcohol/DUI commercials help a lot more. Drunk driving is extremely dangerous and has killed a lot of innocent people. I'm not against alcohol either.

While there are a lot of DUI commercials, I imagine they're as effective as anti-smoking commercials. And, as far as health outcomes are concerned, smoking is *generally* worse than alcohol.

Granted, we don't get anti-obesity commercials but... I think that's more a matter that you already have diet and exercise commercials.

WastelandCowboy posted...

There aren't any anti-alcohol commercials because, aside from AA, MADD, and a few other organizations, there's no real force to keep people from drinking. Not to mention that TV channels don't want to suggest to people that drinking is bad, since it'd suggest that they're recommending a modern-day prohibition.

I think it's more a matter that beer companies *advertise* on many of those stations. Otherwise, if somebody bought the ad time, I'm not sure tv stations would oppose commercials suggesting prohibition.

ShadosAtPhoenix posted...

Anyhow, it's easy: alcohol is popular (Im talking public perception, not just usage), while smoking is not. You can be in a big crowd and have a drink without pissing anyone off. You can't be in a big crowd while smoking without pissing off some people.

...because smoking has been subject to repeated ad campaigns and massive health warnings whereas alcohol has not. Smoking was *very* popular up until it was heavily demonized. Ironically, the stuff you're complaining about not working on alcohol was exactly what helped hurt the cigarette industry in this country.

Mead posted...

Largely because smoking kills a lot more people compared to alcohol related deaths

Ehhhh, it may be a more a matter that deaths can be more directly attributed to smoking whereas alcohol has a lot of conditions which can be blamed on other health issues.
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Because alcohol is the only vice america went to civil war for... (I don't mean THE civil war, but the prohibition era mob combat)
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Shut up Zeus I didnt say you could quote my post you sack of dihydrogen monoxide
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I see more MADD commercials than I do anti-smoking ones. By a huge margin. Most anti-smoking ads I see are just the ones on cigarette packs, which are mandated by law. Maybe it's a regional thing.

That law point also plays a big role, though. Cigarette companies are required by law to make anti-smoking commercials (which is why a lot of them just end up making people want to smoke more, since these companies aren't stupid and they know how to prey on anti-authority sentiments among teenagers). Alcohol companies are not (though they do have their own restrictions about how they can advertise their products), meaning anti-alcohol commercials are left to third parties like MADD that must fund their own advertising.
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There are a lot of dwi commercials
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I would assume anti smoking commercials are mostly meant to stop people from smoking to begin with rather than helping current smokers.
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Why would a company who sells alcohol want to advertise on a channel that is also running ads against alcohol? I've only ever seen anti drunk driving commercials but I think everyone would be on board with those. I guarantee that if tobacco companies still had commercials and they were willing to pay more than the anti-smoking campaigns you wouldn't see any of those commercials anymore.
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Hop103 posted...

underaged drinking, and drunk driving all of which often kill.

You're not going to die from underaged drinking.
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the alcohol industry is terrified of legal weed. hilarious watching them shake in their little boots.
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Because the government is corrupt and inconsistent with how they regulate drugs
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Revelation34 posted...

You're not going to die from underaged drinking.

I knew a guy in high school who got alcohol poisoning and nearly died after drinking too much. That's going to be a bigger risk in younger individuals.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

the alcohol industry is terrified of legal weed. hilarious watching them shake in their little boots.

Nice sarcasm.

Blighboy posted...

Revelation34 posted...

You're not going to die from underaged drinking.

I knew a guy in high school who got alcohol poisoning and nearly died after drinking too much. That's going to be a bigger risk in younger individuals.

That's from alcohol poisoning, not underaged drinking.
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That's like saying you can't die from strangulation because it was the lack of oxygen that killed you
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Muscles posted...

That's like saying you can't die from strangulation because it was the lack of oxygen that killed you

No it isn't since anybody at any age can die from alcohol poisoning. It doesn't matter what the age is.
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pipebomb_phil posted...

I don't smoke and haven't done so for years.

But I hate all these anti-smoking commercials. Those damn commercials aren't going to stop someone from smoking. I can tell you that as a former smoker.

I agree with you on that, totally.

Blighboy posted...

I would assume anti smoking commercials are mostly meant to stop people from smoking to begin with rather than helping current smokers.

If anything, too many of those ads are almost obnoxious to the point that they backfire, and are pathetic. I'm mainly thinking about the Truth commercials btw, and not so much the 'a tip from a former smoker' CDC ad campaign. Which seem to be among the very rare times, I've seen an anti-smoking ad that was effective. I'd also add the Yul Brunner(sp? he was an actor in a lot of old Western movies) one he did just before he died, as being effective as well.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

the alcohol industry is terrified of legal weed. hilarious watching them shake in their little boots.

Honestly, I think the alcohol industry will be fine. There are a lot of people into craft beer alone, or other types of liquor. I hadn't seen much data from Colorado or other states with fully legalized pot, but my guess is that it didn't affect alcohol sales that much. Maybe a little bit, but I bet the effects in decreased sales weren't that significant.
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DumpsterMcNuggets posted...

Honestly, I think the alcohol industry will be fine. There are a lot of people into craft beer alone, or other types of liquor. I hadn't seen much data from Colorado or other states with fully legalized pot, but my guess is that it didn't affect alcohol sales that much. Maybe a little bit, but I bet the effects in decreased sales weren't that significant.

It was a dumb post in general. There would literally be no difference in sales.
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Revelation34 posted...

DumpsterMcNuggets posted...

Honestly, I think the alcohol industry will be fine. There are a lot of people into craft beer alone, or other types of liquor. I hadn't seen much data from Colorado or other states with fully legalized pot, but my guess is that it didn't affect alcohol sales that much. Maybe a little bit, but I bet the effects in decreased sales weren't that significant.

It was a dumb post in general. There would literally be no difference in sales.

That's what I was thinking. That any effects in alcohol sales from fully legalized pot, won't be too significant. Plus I suspect those who drink wine a lot, probably aren't the likely type of person who would smoke pot anyway. Or use anything beyond edibles to help them with certain small medical issues, at most.
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Revelation34 posted...

DumpsterMcNuggets posted...

Honestly, I think the alcohol industry will be fine. There are a lot of people into craft beer alone, or other types of liquor. I hadn't seen much data from Colorado or other states with fully legalized pot, but my guess is that it didn't affect alcohol sales that much. Maybe a little bit, but I bet the effects in decreased sales weren't that significant.

It was a dumb post in general. There would literally be no difference in sales.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomaspellechia/2018/01/22/alcohol-sales-dropped-15-percent-in-states-with-medical-marijuana-laws/#1cd14fc35f22
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PaddysPub posted...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomaspellechia/2018/01/22/alcohol-sales-dropped-15-percent-in-states-with-medical-marijuana-laws/#1cd14fc35f22

What a joke article. Wine isn't all alcohol so it's a clickbait title. Surprised that even Forbes does clickbait. Most people I knew that smoked weed drank vodka or beer.
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Revelation34 posted...

Hop103 posted...

underaged drinking, and drunk driving all of which often kill.

You're not going to die from underaged drinking.

Are you also the anti-vax guy?

Mead posted...

Shut up Zeus I didnt say you could quote my post

Complaining about being quoted in a post where I quoted several other people as well? Or are you just complaining about being quoted last? Either way...



And your latest gimmick of making a big deal over when I -- and only I -- quote you, regardless of whoever else may have done so or how many other people I quoted, is getting old very quickly.
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Zeus posted...

Are you also the anti-vax guy?

Wat.
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