Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 428: 25 Years of RAW, Unmitigated Malfeasance

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Because Tyson Kidd is booking the SD Tag division, and he learned from the Hart Dungeon.
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The core of it is the branding point like you say

None of the wrestlers speak or act like real human beings, and thus you cant relate to them easily

Hogan was larger than life, but he was mad and frustrated about the same things you were, but had the power to do something about it. Same with Austin.

But whats relatable about Roman Reigns? What problems does he have that we can relate to? Being unpopular because hes the teachers pet? Thats a narrow audience!
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WWE Style is fine but it's impossible to not have a lot of stuff that feels like filler on the card or in the matches themselves if that's all you do. Creative spots can only do so much.

Ideally WWE would open up like 4 or 5 developmentals (they certainly have the roster bloat for it) and send people to random ones that all taught the same fundamentals but focused on different styles.
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Lopen posted...

Ideally WWE would open up like 4 or 5 developmentals (they certainly have the roster bloat for it) and send people to random ones that all taught the same fundamentals but focused on different styles.

That seems to be the long term plan with their international programs

But thats been the long term plan since FCW started
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The less said about Roman the better. They even turned the Shield into a marketing ploy with the most bullshit execution possible. "ARE THEY GONNA TEAM UP!" "IS IT A SECRET!" "OH MY GOD! WHAT AN UNEXPECTED MOMENT!"

TLC (in comparison) blowing up by accidental viral outbreak, forcing Styles and Angle into action out of nowhere is like the best thing WWE did in years.

Edit: Now that I think about it, AJ was involved in 3 awesome crash booking decision in one year (MSG, TLC, and SvS)
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Like, the most recent Roman program was Hey theres a belt thats beneath my place on the roster but Ive never held it so I want it.

Thats a wad of cash away from being Million Dollar Man
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Jakyl25 posted...

Like, the most recent Roman program was Hey theres a belt thats beneath my place on the roster but Ive never held it so I want it.

Thats a wad of cash away from being Million Dollar Man

I love you and all. One of my favorite guys on this board.

I will wish things on you I've wished on Boston if you ever compare that piece of shit to fucking Dibiase again.

He's LITERALLY not worthy to wash Ted's fucking jock strap.

Jakyl25 posted...

The core of it is the branding point like you say

None of the wrestlers speak or act like real human beings, and thus you cant relate to them easily

Hogan was larger than life, but he was mad and frustrated about the same things you were, but had the power to do something about it. Same with Austin.

But whats relatable about Roman Reigns? What problems does he have that we can relate to? Being unpopular because hes the teachers pet? Thats a narrow audience!

The most natural thing in the world would be to lean into the teacher's pet angle and give him that Triple H branding
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Jakyl25 posted...

But whats relatable about Roman Reigns? What problems does he have that we can relate to? Being unpopular because hes the teachers pet? Thats a narrow audience!

Don't forget the other niche of "overshadowed in every way by a vastly more popular and skilled family member."
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The Miz is great.
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Hes a face in the world of 2018 too!

Self-promotion is cool if you worked for it in todays culture
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Yeah, the most relatable character on the roster is, no joke, The Miz.

Everyone wants to be famous, everyone wants to feel like they've actually made it, and tons and tons of people use social media to try and promote themselves. Its an almost universal experience.

And that feeling? Like you've worked your ass off and people still don't take you seriously? That's the real shit.

Meanwhile Reigns is a blueblood, bluechipper who has had everything handed to him just because he is supposed to be good. That's the real villain in 2018.

The Miz vs Roman Reigns is a classic Face vs Heel alignment they've just been telling the story wrong.
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Miz is one of the few people from the 'forgotten era' of WWE that I think has a hall of fame caliber career imo.
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The most relatable character in WWE is clearly Daniel Bryan, the guy who is sick of McMahon bullshit and hates the company and just wants to make dumb stuff happen
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How do you define that era? Basically the entire time WWE ECW existed?
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Probably a little before and little after, but that's a good starter block.

Miz hit #1 on the PWI 500 in 2011 which I think is a little after the fall of WWECW.
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2007-Pipe Bomb?

Basically everything from Shawn/Cena on to the rise of Punk.
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Hey, so if this piece of shit is popped with roids (again) how long is this worthless joke of a Samoan gone on strike 2?

Any shot at all they just fire him for the embarrassment?

0.0% chance.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

0.0% chance.

Fucking stupid.

Hope McMahon goes bankrupt and has to sell.....

Anyway. How long is the asshole gone on strike 2 though? Especially that close together?

Closeness doesnt affect it. Strike 2 is 60 days.

Evan Bourne got Strike 2 immediately after coming back from Strike 1 and it was still just 60 days
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Jakyl25 posted...

Closeness doesnt affect it. Strike 2 is 60 days.

Evan Bourne got Strike 2 immediately after coming back from Strike 1 and it was still just 60 days

What's the earliest this guy could release this info making sure this asshole misses Mania?

(And what day would it be possible for him to miss Mania but be back for the Raw after Mania which would be my single favorite Raw ever?)

MWC, you really need to just step away for awhile

You literally threatened to wish death on Jakyl just for going "This greedy trait of Reigns is more similar to DiBiase than a relatable face"

And now you're just sitting here being an annoying fuck
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Anyone gonna host that Rumble topic where we get assigned a number and a wrestler?
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HashtagSEP posted...

MWC, you really need to just step away for awhile

You literally threatened to wish death on Jakyl just for going "This greedy trait of Reigns is more similar to DiBiase than a relatable face"

And now you're just sitting here being an annoying fuck

The only thing annoying about anything in the business right now is Roman....

There is LITERALLY not one single aspect of the business (except the women's "revolution" fuck YOU Steph) that would not be improved EXPONENTIALLY had he never been born.

And if your answer is "well then it would have just been Big E..."

Fuckihg cool!!!!

At least Big E has god damn personality and isn't related to The Rock so no "blue chipper chosen by God" thing.

Jinder NEVER gets out of the mid card if Roman is never born... that's a fact. Cause the ratings don't go so low they feel the need to placate India, they'd just have a superior product that people liked. The ratings went down a lot with Cena. That's a fact. They fucking swan dived when the SHIELD broke up and pushed this sack of shit though. Cena couldn't begin to imagine the crippling ratings that would follow.

They lost less viewers from Benoit than the month around Roman winning the Rumble... I think that says a lot.

People were more turned off by Roman Main Eventing than a double homicide suicide....

JONALEON1 posted...

Anyone gonna host that Rumble topic where we get assigned a number and a wrestler?

I hope so.
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If you guys love MWC in here, you should see him in the NFL topic.
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For whatever reason Im immune to MWC.

A lot of the other antagonistic board members really get under my skin, but his offensive remarks just dont register
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ChampionCloud posted...

Jinder NEVER gets out of the mid card if Roman is never born... that's a fact. Cause the ratings don't go so low they feel the need to placate India

Blaming Roman for Jinder's push, despite the fact that Jinder's 170 day run as champ was on a show that Reigns wasn't on...

Reigns isn't even the lowest rated champion. In 2015-16, his title runs had higher ratings than Sheamus and HHH when they were champs. The entire product as a whole has been laughable when it comes to declining ratings and the writers/Vince are to blame, not Roman.
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Yeah. Roman's a symptom of the problem not really the cause.
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Roman's just a very clear symptom, one that is the most tangible.
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yeah if this was plague, inc. roman would be what causes the cdc to recognize the virus and start working on the cure

except in this case vince runs the cdc and decides to double down on infecting everyone instead
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FFDragon posted...

yeah if this was plague, inc. roman would be what causes the cdc to recognize the virus and start working on the cure

except in this case vince runs the cdc and decides to double down on infecting everyone instead

This is the best analogy
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Im going to inject my creation with a LETHAL DOSE... of poison!!
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Jinder is Roman 2.0. A guy that they just wanted to push for ratings that the hardcore audience doesn't recognize
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ScareChan posted...

Jinder is Roman 2.0. A guy that they just wanted to push for ratings that the hardcore audience doesn't recognize

At least they knew Jinder should be heel.

Though lets get the version numbers straight. 1.0 here was Diesel
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So we are getting Cruiserweights on Royal Rumble.

It's Gran Metallik, Kalisto, and Lince Dorado vs. TJP, Drew Gulak, and Jack Gallagher.

I mean. It's something I guess.
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Hideo in the Rumble, I guess?
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I hate the state of the cruiserweight division where 90% of the content is random ass throw together tag matches
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Lopen posted...

I hate the state of the cruiserweight division where 90% of the content is random ass throw together tag matches

So since the CWC ended
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Tru
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Randomly thrown together

Randomly thrown together?!

I'll have you know, sir, that Gran Metallik, Kalisto, and Lince Dorado all wear masks!
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https://shop.wwe.com/rusev-happy-rusev-day-calendar/HA3007.html?dwvar_HA3007_color=No%20Color#q=Rusev&lang=en_US&curr=USD&start=1
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Please God get Vince's attention...Rusev got screwed over since driving the tank into the Cena Wall.
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https://twitter.com/vagentmike/status/956989450671853568

WWE really went to work quickly erasing Enzo
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/vagentmike/status/956989450671853568

WWE really went to work quickly erasing Enzo

The best part is that the truck also says "Forever".
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lmao how you doin
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Oh what does big cass even do when he gets back given he cant beat up Enzo every week anymore
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LiquidOshawott posted...

Oh what does big cass even do when he gets back given he cant beat up Enzo every week anymore

Pair him up with Gulak.
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My name is BIG CASS and I am SEVEN FEET TALL and you CANT TEACH THAT

how u doin
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