Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 159: Just How God Made Us

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Metal_DK 01/18/18 11:57:59 AM #101:	HashtagSEP posted... Basically, A began happening because of B, before C. So if A is happening and B never went away, without proof, you can't really just say "Well, C contributes to A, so D and E" and expect everybody to just nod and agree. You can't expect everyone to nod and agree to anything tbh. I know you hate the CRO2k7 due to past posts so i expect you to not think social media has caused a lot of problems. If it makes you feel better I'm not hating o casuals the way gamers say it or something. We're all casuals is the point. I'm a casual for Magic the gathering for example. I don't care about win conditions or the perfect deck, I just like seeing the interaction between 2 or more cards, etc. But when people spend hours a day doing something (YouTube consuption, twitter, facebook, etc), that is time not spent doing other things. My point is more so based on time spent combined with the science of how social media causes dopamine sensations that cause potential problems to a large degree. There is no question that social media has contributed to dating short term, long term, sex, marriage, etc. Also the lack of spending time in the flesh and real world rather than retreat to the online space that ultimately leads to very little. The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894298350] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>Basically, A began happening because of B, before C. So if A is happening and B never went away, without proof, you can't really just say "Well, C contributes to A, so D and E" and expect everybody to just nod and agree.</quote> You can't expect everyone to nod and agree to anything tbh. I know you hate the CRO2k7 due to past posts so i expect you to not think social media has caused a lot of problems. If it makes you feel better I'm not hating o casuals the way gamers say it or something. We're all casuals is the point. I'm a casual for Magic the gathering for example. I don't care about win conditions or the perfect deck, I just like seeing the interaction between 2 or more cards, etc. But when people spend hours a day doing something (YouTube consuption, twitter, facebook, etc), that is time not spent doing other things. My point is more so based on time spent combined with the science of how social media causes dopamine sensations that cause potential problems to a large degree. There is no question that social media has contributed to dating short term, long term, sex, marriage, etc. Also the lack of spending time in the flesh and real world rather than retreat to the online space that ultimately leads to very little. The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psaltery 01/18/18 12:02:32 PM #102:	The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc. Not really. I think it was pretty much the same. Things are just faster now and there are more people using the Internet. And there are more choices in online games of course. --- Psalm 73:20: As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image. <cite>psaltery posted [p:894298607] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc.</quote> Not really. I think it was pretty much the same. Things are just faster now and there are more people using the Internet. And there are more choices in online games of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 12:05:42 PM #103:	psaltery posted... Not really. I think it was pretty much the same. Things are just faster now and there are more people using the Internet. And there are more choices in online games of course. That's simply not true. There weren't YouTube shows, people who could post 140 characters that 5 million people could see from their phone in seconds, etc. If that's what you mean by faster than fine, but that's really misleading to just say "it's faster" and gloss over it like that. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894298773] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>psaltery posted...</cite> <quote> Not really. I think it was pretty much the same. Things are just faster now and there are more people using the Internet. And there are more choices in online games of course.</quote> That's simply not true. There weren't YouTube shows, people who could post 140 characters that 5 million people could see from their phone in seconds, etc. If that's what you mean by faster than fine, but that's really misleading to just say "it's faster" and gloss over it like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 12:11:55 PM #104:	Metal_DK posted... If it makes you feel better I'm not hating o casuals the way gamers say it or something. it seems that way when you're describing something negative and call it "casual," though. why not call it "the social media revolution" or whatever? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894299131] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>If it makes you feel better I'm not hating o casuals the way gamers say it or something.</quote> it seems that way when you're describing something negative and call it "casual," though. why not call it "the social media revolution" or whatever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 12:16:17 PM #105:	Mr Lasastryke posted... it seems that way when you're describing something negative and call it "casual," though. why not call it "the social media revolution" or whatever? It is negative, I'm just saying it's not 1 group to blame...it's everyone. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894299388] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>it seems that way when you're describing something negative and call it "casual," though. why not call it "the social media revolution" or whatever?</quote> It is negative, I'm just saying it's not 1 group to blame...it's everyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 12:21:54 PM #106:	Metal_DK posted... It is negative, why is casual negative, though? you just said you're a casual when it comes to magic the gathering. is that necessarily a bad thing? if so, why? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894299703] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>It is negative,</quote> why is casual negative, though? you just said you're a casual when it comes to magic the gathering. is that necessarily a bad thing? if so, why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/18/18 12:25:29 PM #107:	Trump says to take CHIP funding out of the CR, saying it needs a long term solution, not short term. GOP has to let him know that CHIP funding in the CR would go for six years. Our president, ladies and gentlemen. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:894299951] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Trump says to take CHIP funding out of the CR, saying it needs a long term solution, not short term. GOP has to let him know that CHIP funding in the CR would go for six years. Our president, ladies and gentlemen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 12:32:28 PM #108:	Mr Lasastryke posted... why is casual negative, though? you just said you're a casual when it comes to magic the gathering. is that necessarily a bad thing? if so, why? It's negative because I won't contribute to mtg's growth long term and if the number of people like me grow too large we cause the eventual decline as we outnumber the people who do and it creates a massive short term boom and then long term collapse or even outright end of a particular thing. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894300393] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>why is casual negative, though? you just said you're a casual when it comes to magic the gathering. is that necessarily a bad thing? if so, why?</quote> It's negative because I won't contribute to mtg's growth long term and if the number of people like me grow too large we cause the eventual decline as we outnumber the people who do and it creates a massive short term boom and then long term collapse or even outright end of a particular thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 01/18/18 12:52:23 PM #109:	Metal_DK posted... Also the lack of spending time in the flesh and real world rather than retreat to the online space that ultimately leads to very little. The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc. Don't these two things seem a bit contradictory? The internet prior to 2007 wasn't in our pockets, so you basically had to stay inside to use it. Now, if somebody wants to check Twitter or a Youtube video, they can do it anywhere they're at. I mean, hell. The primary use of Instagram is people taking pictures/selfies while they're out --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:894301611] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>Also the lack of spending time in the flesh and real world rather than retreat to the online space that ultimately leads to very little. The Internet before 2007 was radically different, due to not being in our pockets and not being centralized to facebook, reddit, twitter etc.</quote> Don't these two things seem a bit contradictory? The internet prior to 2007 wasn't in our pockets, so you basically had to stay inside to use it. Now, if somebody wants to check Twitter or a Youtube video, they can do it anywhere they're at. I mean, hell. The primary use of Instagram is people taking pictures/selfies while they're out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 1:06:06 PM #110:	HashtagSEP posted... The internet prior to 2007 wasn't in our pockets, so you basically had to stay inside to use it. Now, if somebody wants to check Twitter or a Youtube video, they can do it anywhere they're at. I mean, hell. The primary use of Instagram is people taking pictures/selfies while they're out They check it where they are at and don't pay attention to the actual things going on around them. Basically everywhere now is our old computer desks where we just consumed digital media. You mention instagram, more people care about posting the perfect selfie/food pic/concert performance and making sure it gets likes and comments than actually enjoying the location of the selfie, food item, concert. Again, everything and everywhere is our computer desk now. Being able to check that Youtube video anywhere is causing massive social isolation. It's just easy to do but ultimately not satisfying and causes long term unhappiness --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894302458] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote>The internet prior to 2007 wasn't in our pockets, so you basically had to stay inside to use it. Now, if somebody wants to check Twitter or a Youtube video, they can do it anywhere they're at. I mean, hell. The primary use of Instagram is people taking pictures/selfies while they're out</quote> They check it where they are at and don't pay attention to the actual things going on around them. Basically everywhere now is our old computer desks where we just consumed digital media. You mention instagram, more people care about posting the perfect selfie/food pic/concert performance and making sure it gets likes and comments than actually enjoying the location of the selfie, food item, concert. Again, everything and everywhere is our computer desk now. Being able to check that Youtube video anywhere is causing massive social isolation. It's just easy to do but ultimately not satisfying and causes long term unhappiness</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega Mana 01/18/18 1:35:43 PM #111:	Eddv posted... You know who makes my human condition miserable? Randy Orton, Monday Nights on Raw. But Randy's on Smackdown Live on Tuesdays. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega Mana posted [p:894304337] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>You know who makes my human condition miserable? Randy Orton, Monday Nights on Raw.</quote> But Randy's on Smackdown Live on Tuesdays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 01/18/18 2:00:45 PM #112:	EndOfDiscOne posted... StartTheMachine posted... every time I see Sarah Huckabee Sanders speak, I'm reminded that -- despite the fierce competition -- she is somehow still the most aggravating and annoying member of Trump's insane administration. sorry, Stephen Miller just wanted to throw that opinion out there I honestly kind of laugh every time I see her That's how I was with Spicey but with her it's kind of like "stop it and go away" --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:894305910] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StartTheMachine posted...</cite> <quote>every time I see Sarah Huckabee Sanders speak, I'm reminded that -- despite the fierce competition -- she is somehow still the most aggravating and annoying member of Trump's insane administration. sorry, Stephen Miller just wanted to throw that opinion out there</quote> I honestly kind of laugh every time I see her</quote> That's how I was with Spicey but with her it's kind of like "stop it and go away"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 01/18/18 2:31:18 PM #113:	Peace___Frog posted... The NRA is being investigated by the FBI for accepting funds from a Kremlin-backed banker in order to help Trump win the presidency. Link please? --- Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:894307924] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>The NRA is being investigated by the FBI for accepting funds from a Kremlin-backed banker in order to help Trump win the presidency.</quote> Link please?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 01/18/18 2:57:59 PM #114:	Metal_DK posted... You mention instagram, more people care about posting the perfect selfie/food pic/concert performance and making sure it gets likes and comments than actually enjoying the location of the selfie, food item, concert. I don't actually think this is true. Like, I don't even really disagree with your overall point, but I think the majority of picture taking is for one's own benefit and enjoyment and sharing it is just a way of socializing. There are definitely people who basically make Instagram their "job" but it's a minority. For all the talk about how selfies are a modern invention, people who could afford it used to pay artists to paint portraits of them and then displayed those portraits prominently. Same shit, different century. And it's not like no one ever took pictures of food, concerts, and themselves with a film camera, put them in a family album, and showed the album off to their friends and family. It's just easier and simpler to share now. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:894309798] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>You mention instagram, more people care about posting the perfect selfie/food pic/concert performance and making sure it gets likes and comments than actually enjoying the location of the selfie, food item, concert.</quote> I don't actually think this is true. Like, I don't even really disagree with your overall point, but I think the majority of picture taking is for one's own benefit and enjoyment and sharing it is just a way of socializing. There are definitely people who basically make Instagram their "job" but it's a minority. For all the talk about how selfies are a modern invention, people who could afford it used to pay artists to paint portraits of them and then displayed those portraits prominently. Same shit, different century. And it's not like no one ever took pictures of food, concerts, and themselves with a film camera, put them in a family album, and showed the album off to their friends and family. It's just easier and simpler to share now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 01/18/18 3:18:48 PM #115:	https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/18/government-shutdown-2018-mitch-mcconnell-345662?__twitter_impression=true McConnel really is a totally worthless human being with no value, huh? --- "I think Cuphead should be higher." - Abby from Brooklyn <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:894311142] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/18/government-shutdown-2018-mitch-mcconnell-345662?__twitter_impression=true McConnel really is a totally worthless human being with no value, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 3:21:35 PM #116:	yeah, metal_dk sounds like a bitter old man who makes a caricature out of the way people use social media nowadays. sure, there are some crazies out there who do nothing but pose for instagram pictures all night when they're going out, but to say that's all everyone does now and nobody enjoys the location they're at anymore is kind of absurd. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894311316] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>yeah, metal_dk sounds like a bitter old man who makes a caricature out of the way people use social media nowadays. sure, there are some crazies out there who do nothing but pose for instagram pictures all night when they're going out, but to say that's all everyone does now and nobody enjoys the location they're at anymore is kind of absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 01/18/18 3:21:47 PM #117:	LapisLazuli posted... https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/18/government-shutdown-2018-mitch-mcconnell-345662?__twitter_impression=true McConnell is a great villain --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:894311327] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/18/government-shutdown-2018-mitch-mcconnell-345662?__twitter_impression=true</quote> McConnell is a great villain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 01/18/18 3:23:07 PM #118:	metal dk probably wouldn't even eat tide pods --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:894311414] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>metal dk probably wouldn't even eat tide pods</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 01/18/18 3:42:50 PM #119:	HaRRicH posted... Peace___Frog posted... The NRA is being investigated by the FBI for accepting funds from a Kremlin-backed banker in order to help Trump win the presidency. Link please? It's hearsay from a non-major outlet, so I'm not sure what the accuracy on it is. I'm actually not familiar with the source at all. But i think it's incredible that one can read the quoted sentence and not immediately discern its truthfulness. http://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:894312733] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>HaRRicH posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>The NRA is being investigated by the FBI for accepting funds from a Kremlin-backed banker in order to help Trump win the presidency.</quote> Link please?</quote> It's hearsay from a non-major outlet, so I'm not sure what the accuracy on it is. I'm actually not familiar with the source at all. But i think it's incredible that one can read the quoted sentence and not immediately discern its truthfulness. http://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 3:49:17 PM #120:	Mr Lasastryke posted... yeah, metal_dk sounds like a bitter old man who makes a caricature out of the way people use social media nowadays. sure, there are some crazies out there who do nothing but pose for instagram pictures all night when they're going out, but to say that's all everyone does now and nobody enjoys the location they're at anymore is kind of absurd. This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically. If you don't think people are glued to their phones non stop and have massive addictions to smartphones and modern era social media it's because you like it and don't want to admit it. I'll go that route if you are going the ones you are --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894313183] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>yeah, metal_dk sounds like a bitter old man who makes a caricature out of the way people use social media nowadays. sure, there are some crazies out there who do nothing but pose for instagram pictures all night when they're going out, but to say that's all everyone does now and nobody enjoys the location they're at anymore is kind of absurd.</quote> This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically. If you don't think people are glued to their phones non stop and have massive addictions to smartphones and modern era social media it's because you like it and don't want to admit it. I'll go that route if you are going the ones you are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 3:50:54 PM #121:	Kenri posted... For all the talk about how selfies are a modern invention, people who could afford it used to pay artists to paint portraits of them and then displayed those portraits prominently. Same shit, different century. And it's not like no one ever took pictures of food, concerts, and themselves with a film camera, put them in a family album, and showed the album off to their friends and family. It's just easier and simpler to share now. It's become how people spend hours of their day. Maybe not selfies specifially, but youtube, twitter, netflix, instagram, steam, etc. It's very very significant Don't even get me started on people with phones out at concerts. And IB you mention lighters at concerts or something trying to pass that off as the same thing. Phones out at concerts are obviously to just post on social media for everyone to be "look at me I was at this event". But they barely were present tbh --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894313304] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote>For all the talk about how selfies are a modern invention, people who could afford it used to pay artists to paint portraits of them and then displayed those portraits prominently. Same shit, different century. And it's not like no one ever took pictures of food, concerts, and themselves with a film camera, put them in a family album, and showed the album off to their friends and family. It's just easier and simpler to share now.</quote> It's become how people spend hours of their day. Maybe not selfies specifially, but youtube, twitter, netflix, instagram, steam, etc. It's very very significant Don't even get me started on people with phones out at concerts. And IB you mention lighters at concerts or something trying to pass that off as the same thing. Phones out at concerts are obviously to just post on social media for everyone to be "look at me I was at this event". But they barely were present tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 3:55:39 PM #122:	Metal_DK posted... This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically. uh, you missed the part where i specifically attacked the stuff you were saying as well. you would have had a point if i'd said "metal_dk is a bitter old man" and nothing more. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894313606] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically.</quote> uh, you missed the part where i specifically attacked the stuff you were saying as well. you would have had a point if i'd said "metal_dk is a bitter old man" and nothing more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 01/18/18 3:59:39 PM #123:	I mean, disposable cameras were specifically sold for the exact same kind of thing, to take pictures at events and places you went to, so... Are there people addicted to social media/their phones/etc.? Yeah, absolutely. Just like there have always been people addicted to TV and movies and video games and computers, long before this "casual revolution." But to act like literally everybody that takes pictures when they're out or at an event is addicted and only doing it for that reason is flat out insane. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:894313872] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>I mean, disposable cameras were specifically sold for the exact same kind of thing, to take pictures at events and places you went to, so... Are there people addicted to social media/their phones/etc.? Yeah, absolutely. Just like there have always been people addicted to TV and movies and video games and computers, long before this "casual revolution." But to act like literally everybody that takes pictures when they're out or at an event is addicted and only doing it for that reason is flat out insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 4:12:07 PM #124:	i've taken more pictures with disposable cameras than i ever have with my phone tbqh >_> i'm not as much into taking pictures anymore as i was when i was a kid. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894314643] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>i've taken more pictures with disposable cameras than i ever have with my phone tbqh >_> i'm not as much into taking pictures anymore as i was when i was a kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 01/18/18 4:16:14 PM #125:	God wouldn't have given us the internet if he didn't intend for us to use it to look up porn on the bus --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:894314888] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>God wouldn't have given us the internet if he didn't intend for us to use it to look up porn on the bus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 01/18/18 5:13:40 PM #126:	Or porn on a bus. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:894318395] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Or porn on a bus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 01/18/18 5:23:46 PM #127:	isn't only a simple majority required for a bad or failed budget? i'll claim total ignorance on this, maybe it's 60 or something in the senate --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:894318975] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>isn't only a simple majority required for a bad or failed budget? i'll claim total ignorance on this, maybe it's 60 or something in the senate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/18/18 5:28:24 PM #128:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Metal_DK posted... This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically. uh, you missed the part where i specifically attacked the stuff you were saying as well. you would have had a point if i'd said "metal_dk is a bitter old man" and nothing more. And that's when the conversation was more interesting and insightful. And I appreciate you for that. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:894319263] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metal_DK posted...</cite> <quote>This happens everytime. Shift to talking about me specifically.</quote> uh, you missed the part where i specifically attacked the stuff you were saying as well. you would have had a point if i'd said "metal_dk is a bitter old man" and nothing more.</quote> And that's when the conversation was more interesting and insightful. And I appreciate you for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 01/18/18 7:50:44 PM #129:	http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:894327790] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 01/18/18 7:57:24 PM #130:	Where are we at on the 90 day travel ban BTW? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:894328203] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Where are we at on the 90 day travel ban BTW?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:13:56 PM #131:	Jakyl25 posted... http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?! --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894329228] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant</quote> How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 01/18/18 8:16:00 PM #132:	While you're asking about EXTREME VETTING, here's a story that actually could have used some EXTREME VETTING: 1/18/2018 BUZZFEED - Hungarian Police Have A Warrant Out For Former Trump Adviser Sebastian Gorka Gorka, whose exact role in the White House while serving as a deputy assistant to the president was never entirely clear, apparently is in trouble with the law over a charge of "firearm or ammunition abuse." The warrant, first reported in Hungarian online outlet 444, was issued on Sept. 17, 2016, prior to Trump's election. That means that during the entire seven months Gorka spent in the White House, including when meeting with Hungarian Foreign Minister Pter Szijjrt in Washington last March, an arrest warrant was pending overseas. https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/hayesbrown/hungarian-warrant-for-sebastian-gorka?utm_term=.vd27v8Dja&__twitter_impression=true --- Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:894329366] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>While you're asking about EXTREME VETTING, here's a story that actually could have used some EXTREME VETTING: 1/18/2018 BUZZFEED - Hungarian Police Have A Warrant Out For Former Trump Adviser Sebastian Gorka Gorka, whose exact role in the White House while serving as a deputy assistant to the president was never entirely clear, apparently is in trouble with the law over a charge of "firearm or ammunition abuse." The warrant, first reported in Hungarian online outlet 444, was issued on Sept. 17, 2016, prior to Trump's election. That means that during the entire seven months Gorka spent in the White House, including when meeting with Hungarian Foreign Minister Pter Szijjrt in Washington last March, an arrest warrant was pending overseas. https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/hayesbrown/hungarian-warrant-for-sebastian-gorka?utm_term=.vd27v8Dja&__twitter_impression=true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/18/18 8:28:19 PM #133:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?! That are actual doctors? Zero. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:894330249] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant</quote> How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?!</quote> That are actual doctors? Zero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 01/18/18 8:29:32 PM #134:	Nelson_Mandela posted... How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:894330324] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?!</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/18/18 8:29:54 PM #135:	It's also a complete violation of the Hippocratic Oath so... --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:894330350] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>It's also a complete violation of the Hippocratic Oath so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:31:05 PM #136:	So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894330434] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 01/18/18 8:34:49 PM #137:	Nelson_Mandela posted... So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans? Well, we already have that anecdotal evidence of that pediatrician that refused to treat a sick child because his parents were lesbians. Not so much evidence of progressives doing the same thing to assholes. I mean conservatives. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:894330669] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans?</quote> Well, we already have that anecdotal evidence of that pediatrician that refused to treat a sick child because his parents were lesbians. Not so much evidence of progressives doing the same thing to assholes. I mean conservatives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 01/18/18 8:36:43 PM #138:	Progressives are morally infallible --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:894330810] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Progressives are morally infallible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 01/18/18 8:36:51 PM #139:	Nelson_Mandela posted... So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans? I've already been denied treatment for this years before this division. Got billed for it too! Probably wasn't legal but i had no means to fight it --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:894330824] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans?</quote> I've already been denied treatment for this years before this division. Got billed for it too! Probably wasn't legal but i had no means to fight it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/18/18 8:43:30 PM #140:	Nelson_Mandela posted... So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans? So why does the division need to exist? Must be doctors out there asking for an exemption in treating gay and transgender people. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:894331290] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>So how many doctors would refuse to treat gays or trans?</quote> So why does the division need to exist? Must be doctors out there asking for an exemption in treating gay and transgender people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:45:01 PM #141:	I'm not defending it. It's just very difficult to compel doctors or anyone to perform a service. I guarantee that there are physicians who would find it morally objectionable to treat a conservative or someone they view as evil. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894331384] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>I'm not defending it. It's just very difficult to compel doctors or anyone to perform a service. I guarantee that there are physicians who would find it morally objectionable to treat a conservative or someone they view as evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 01/18/18 8:46:34 PM #142:	Those people are awful too then --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:894331467] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Those people are awful too then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:46:39 PM #143:	And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894331473] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:47:08 PM #144:	Jakyl25 posted... Those people are awful too then Agreed! --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894331513] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Those people are awful too then</quote> Agreed!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 01/18/18 8:47:45 PM #145:	Which is why this new shit is awful --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:894331554] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>Which is why this new shit is awful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 01/18/18 8:48:31 PM #146:	The party of small government creates another division of government to regulate people being assholes for religious reasons? Say whaatt?? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:894331613] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote>The party of small government creates another division of government to regulate people being assholes for religious reasons? Say whaatt??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 01/18/18 8:49:45 PM #147:	Nelson_Mandela posted... And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable. One of these things already happens regularly --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:894331682] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable.</quote> One of these things already happens regularly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 01/18/18 8:49:47 PM #148:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I guarantee that there are physicians who would find it morally objectionable to treat a conservative or someone they view as evil. No fucking shit. How many are currently lobbying the government for "Right to Refuse Treatment of the President" divisions? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:894331684] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I guarantee that there are physicians who would find it morally objectionable to treat a conservative or someone they view as evil.</quote> No fucking shit. How many are currently lobbying the government for "Right to Refuse Treatment of the President" divisions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:50:32 PM #149:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Jakyl25 posted... http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?! That are actual doctors? Zero. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894331737] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-announce-conscience-religious-freedom-division-hhs/story?id=52434480 Fuck this, fuck Trump, and fuck anyone who ever chooses to refuse to treat people based on sexual orientation or because they are transgender. Hopefully no one actually does and this division is irrelevant</quote> How many progressives would refuse to treat Trump because of their conscience objections?!</quote> That are actual doctors? Zero.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 01/18/18 8:51:52 PM #150:	pxlated posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable. One of these things already happens regularly Are you defining "denying treatment" as "refusing to mutilate someone's genitals for a risky cosmetic/elective procedure"? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:894331829] in Politics C... [t:76212910]...</cite> <quote><cite>pxlated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>And everyone's immediate counter of "no way a progressive would refuse to treat Trump!" followed by "of course some conservatives refuse to treat trans" is laughable.</quote> One of these things already happens regularly</quote> Are you defining "denying treatment" as "refusing to mutilate someone's genitals for a risky cosmetic/elective procedure"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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