Current Events > Kansas man falls victim to swatting prank, is killed by police

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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:34:49 PM
#151:


ChromaticAngel posted...
tremain07 posted...
Holy fuck. I still believe the asshole who gave out this address should face charges too, he may not be the one who called the police in the first place but giving out another person's address to use as a human shield makes him just as guilty

no.

no one is guilty here except the guy who made the fucking call and gave documented lies to the police.

anyone can post any shit they want on the internet. if that fucking prick wasn't a swatting asshole, then it would have stopped there.

There's plausible deniability in giving a bullshit address, by assuming it was a bullshit address.
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tremain07
12/29/17 10:42:51 PM
#152:


ChromaticAngel posted...
tremain07 posted...
Holy fuck. I still believe the asshole who gave out this address should face charges too, he may not be the one who called the police in the first place but giving out another person's address to use as a human shield makes him just as guilty

no.

no one is guilty here except the guy who made the fucking call and gave documented lies to the police.

anyone can post any shit they want on the internet. if that fucking prick wasn't a swatting asshole, then it would have stopped there.

If that piece of shit hadn't escalated their little slap fight a man wouldn't be fucking dead, both of them deserve the fucking chair for this.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/29/17 10:42:53 PM
#153:


JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop
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gmanthebest
12/29/17 10:44:05 PM
#154:


Tag for updates
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JebronLames
12/29/17 10:45:02 PM
#155:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop

Did you forget the judgment against that cop in nyc who fired blindly into a dark stairwell cause he was startled by a loud noise? But not surprisingly imo that cop was asian
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/29/17 10:46:08 PM
#156:


JebronLames posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop

Did you forget the judgment against that cop in nyc who fired blindly into a dark stairwell cause he was startled by a loud noise? But not surprisingly imo that cop was asian

Never heard of it really
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JebronLames
12/29/17 10:48:10 PM
#157:


Idk do a google search or something, it was like 1 or 2 years ago and even yahoo news brought up that is was unusual that he got convicted, citing national stats and how often so and so happens.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 10:51:22 PM
#158:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop

Did you forget the judgment against that cop in nyc who fired blindly into a dark stairwell cause he was startled by a loud noise? But not surprisingly imo that cop was asian

Never heard of it really

The video is fucked up.
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KingCrabCake
12/29/17 11:00:39 PM
#159:


Pow Pow Punishment posted...
Both gamers and the cop should be charged. One gave a false address that belonged to the victim, the other was the swatter, and the cop shot someone merely for coming to their front door.


Nope
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:01:57 PM
#160:


KingCrabCake posted...
Pow Pow Punishment posted...
Both gamers and the cop should be charged. One gave a false address that belonged to the victim, the other was the swatter, and the cop shot someone merely for coming to their front door.


Nope

The cop fucked up, but he's not the guilty party here.
If anything, this is murder-by-cop.
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Metua
12/29/17 11:06:15 PM
#161:


Reading through the swatter's Twitter, he sounds like a grade-A asshole and sociopath. Hope he rots in prison the rest of his life.

Also, he claims to have swatted other people in the past, and he claims he's the also the one who placed the bomb threat during the FCC meeting where they voted to kill NN. Not sure if that's true or if he's just posturing...
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Zikten
12/29/17 11:07:09 PM
#162:


Metua posted...
Reading through the swatter's Twitter, he sounds like a grade-A asshole and sociopath. Hope he rots in prison the rest of his life.

Also, he claims to have swatted other people in the past, and he claims he's the also the one who placed the bomb threat during the FCC meeting where they voted to kill NN. Not sure if that's true or if he's just posturing...

it's like ISIS. he may just be taking credit for stuff cause who's gonna say he's lying? I kinda doubt he has done that many as he claims
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:09:02 PM
#163:


Metua posted...
Reading through the swatter's Twitter, he sounds like a grade-A asshole and sociopath. Hope he rots in prison the rest of his life.

Also, he claims to have swatted other people in the past, and he claims he's the also the one who placed the bomb threat during the FCC meeting where they voted to kill NN. Not sure if that's true or if he's just posturing...

see also:
Questionmarktarius posted...
The dumbass is incriminating himself on the internet. That never ends well.
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KingCrabCake
12/29/17 11:13:31 PM
#164:


Does anyone know why the cop shot yet?
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Zikten
12/29/17 11:14:18 PM
#165:


KingCrabCake posted...
Does anyone know why the cop shot yet?

no. the cops are refusing to say, which probably means they shouldn';t have shot him
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ChromaticAngel
12/29/17 11:16:43 PM
#166:


Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Does anyone know why the cop shot yet?

no. the cops are refusing to say, which probably means they shouldn';t have shot him

aka the cops are much more educated in the law and know to not say anything that hasn't been looked over by 3 lawyers.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:19:30 PM
#167:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Zikten posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Does anyone know why the cop shot yet?

no. the cops are refusing to say, which probably means they shouldn';t have shot him

aka the cops are much more educated in the law and know to not say anything that hasn't been looked over by 3 lawyers.

Possible serial killer, combined with "ohshit I don't want to die today"
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/0/0d/Jame_Gumb.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120918160816

The cop clearly fucked up, but you would too.
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TheVipaGTS
12/29/17 11:27:05 PM
#168:


Questionmarktarius posted...
but you would too.

Thankfully Im not a cop. I don't think we should compare how a trained cop SHOULD act to how the average joe WOULD act.

People keep saying "they were told it was a hostage situation!"...then if they were so scared to the point that they'd shoot as soon as the door opened why did they approach it in that way? If you have concerns like that then maybe you should think of another way about it instead of just walking up to the door and waiting for what you believe to be an armed gunman to open it? Plenty of other cops deal with that situation just fine...
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KingCrabCake
12/29/17 11:33:13 PM
#169:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
but you would too.

Thankfully Im not a cop. I don't think we should compare how a trained cop SHOULD act to how the average joe WOULD act.

People keep saying "they were told it was a hostage situation!"...then if they were so scared to the point that they'd shoot as soon as the door opened why did they approach it in that way? If you have concerns like that then maybe you should think of another way about it instead of just walking up to the door and waiting for what you believe to be an armed gunman to open it? Plenty of other cops deal with that situation just fine...


Man stfu the cop will live with this for the rest of his life. He made a mistake and its terrible but he should not be put on trial for anything.
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:36:18 PM
#170:


TheVipaGTS posted...
People keep saying "they were told it was a hostage situation!"...then if they were so scared to the point that they'd shoot as soon as the door opened why did they approach it in that way?

That's actually fair, yes.
Shoulda bullhorned sieged or something.
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YodaCrackers
12/29/17 11:41:28 PM
#171:


voldothegr8 posted...
1 story today of cops who couldn't bother to get out of their car to help a woman about to get murdered, another story of cops who shoot first and ask later.

Thats the problem. You only hear the bad stories about cops, and you dont hear the hundreds of good stories everyday because theyre not newsworthy.
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Sexypwnstar
12/29/17 11:44:37 PM
#172:


JebronLames posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop

Did you forget the judgment against that cop in nyc who fired blindly into a dark stairwell cause he was startled by a loud noise? But not surprisingly imo that cop was asian


the fuck kind of low key racism is this?
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:45:13 PM
#173:


YodaCrackers posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
1 story today of cops who couldn't bother to get out of their car to help a woman about to get murdered, another story of cops who shoot first and ask later.

Thats the problem. You only hear the bad stories about cops, and you dont hear the hundreds of good stories everyday because theyre not newsworthy.

if it bleeds, it leads

Sexypwnstar posted...
the fuck kind of low key racism is this?

I have no idea where the "not surprisingly" part comes from. Is it racism?
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Tryhaptaward
12/29/17 11:47:32 PM
#174:


Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:49:11 PM
#176:


Tryhaptaward posted...
Do you guys even read the fucking article?

Source, please.
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Sphyx
12/29/17 11:51:41 PM
#177:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Second degree on the SWAT member and fist degree on the caller

fist degree

Bit harsh, but...
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Questionmarktarius
12/29/17 11:54:40 PM
#178:


Sphyx posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Second degree on the SWAT member and fist degree on the caller

fist degree

Bit harsh, but...

That's legally possible, but still a bit much.
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Lil_Bit83
12/29/17 11:54:43 PM
#179:


FightingGames posted...
the kid who admitted it on twitter must be shitting bricks right now. His life will be ruined for wasting federal resources and getting someone killed


Good. He deserves it for getting someone killed, ruining a stranger's family and being completely unrepentant.
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GiftedACIII
12/29/17 11:57:28 PM
#180:


Sexypwnstar posted...
JebronLames posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
JebronLames posted...
Of course the person who called it in, if found will face a much harsher penalty than the shooting cop. Imo the justice system is very heavily biased in favor of the shooting cops

After Daniel Shaver's execution I don't know if its possible to get a judgement on a cop

Did you forget the judgment against that cop in nyc who fired blindly into a dark stairwell cause he was startled by a loud noise? But not surprisingly imo that cop was asian


the fuck kind of low key racism is this?


He's saying the fact that he was a minority cop was the reason he got judgement because white cops don't get judgement
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MuayThai85
12/30/17 12:01:54 AM
#181:


The guy who called in the false report needs to be punished severely. His actions directly caused the death of a person, dude needs to be locked up for a long fucking time.

The cop needs to have something happen to him as well. If it is shown that he was unarmed and the cop was just trigger happy then he needs to be charged as well.

I normally defend cops but based on the information in the article this guy obviously really fucked up.
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KingCrabCake
12/30/17 12:08:26 AM
#182:


MuayThai85 posted...
The guy who called in the false report needs to be punished severely. His actions directly caused the death of a person, dude needs to be locked up for a long fucking time.

The cop needs to have something happen to him as well. If it is shown that he was unarmed and the cop was just trigger happy then he needs to be charged as well.

I normally defend cops but based on the information in the article this guy obviously really fucked up.


Nope cop shouldn't be charged
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Kineth
12/30/17 12:10:43 AM
#184:


ClunkerSlim posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?

What are the cops going to say? "He looked confused for a second so I shot him."


"I feared for my life!"
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KingCrabCake
12/30/17 12:12:08 AM
#185:


ClunkerSlim posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?

What are the cops going to say? "He looked confused for a second so I shot him."


Soooo cop did nothing wrong and basically took an innocent life by accident
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:16:07 AM
#186:


KingCrabCake posted...
Nope cop shouldn't be charged

I dunno.
It needs a very intensive investigation, but I don't expect much to come of it.

Cops are very trigger-happy nowadays, but I can't automatically condemn this cop, when the swatting was a double murder and hostage scenario.

KingCrabCake posted...
Soooo cop did nothing wrong and basically took an innocent life by accident

Murder-by-cop, and the swatter asshole has vastly more guilt than the actual cop.
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thanosibe
12/30/17 12:18:42 AM
#187:


Kineth posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?

What are the cops going to say? "He looked confused for a second so I shot him."


"I feared for my life!"
We bitch and moan about "every American has an arsenal; they're all gun lovers" and then when a policeman thinks someone might be reaching for a gun and shoots, we crusify him/her. I have customers at my job with open conceal that have guns on their hips like the wild fucking west when they pick their orders. I don't really know these people and they're walking in with guns. You can not bitch about too many guns in America and then cut someone down for reacting in fear. Cop or civilian. There's a person in this story that lied and called a swat team over to an innocent person's house saying they were mentally ill and were armed with hostages, over a fucking video game and CE is shit posting about the policeman.
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TheVipaGTS
12/30/17 12:31:25 AM
#190:


ClunkerSlim posted...
From the Keemstar interview.
Words from the victim...

"The cops didn't knock on the door. He heard something outside, opened the door, screamed, and the cops shot him."

The cops never issued a single command! This dude heard something, opened his door, screamed in surprise, and the cop fired.

if that's true its even scarier...I need to remember to make sure i walk outside with my hands up no matter what just in case....since if i get shot by a cop apparently it will be fully justified.
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DezDroppedFreak
12/30/17 12:33:32 AM
#191:


Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:34:42 AM
#192:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke

Someone had to actually die to get this point across.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/30/17 12:36:35 AM
#193:


Sending twitchy fuck heads with guns to someone's house should be attempted or in this case, murder.

Fuck the police, fuck swatters.
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TheVipaGTS
12/30/17 12:37:02 AM
#194:


Questionmarktarius posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke

Someone had to actually die to get this point across.

the sad thing is the point was already loud and clear to logical people...the dipshit no life trolls who do this stuff will keep doing it "for teh lulz"....
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DezDroppedFreak
12/30/17 12:38:29 AM
#195:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke

Someone had to actually die to get this point across.

the sad thing is the point was already loud and clear to logical people...the dipshit no life trolls who do this stuff will keep doing it "for teh lulz"....

And even then you still have to wonder if this was really enough to drive the point home to them, and if not, what will?
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ItsYourFault
12/30/17 12:38:42 AM
#196:


thanosibe posted...
Kineth posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?

What are the cops going to say? "He looked confused for a second so I shot him."


"I feared for my life!"
We bitch and moan about "every American has an arsenal; they're all gun lovers" and then when a policeman thinks someone might be reaching for a gun and shoots, we crusify him/her. I have customers at my job with open conceal that have guns on their hips like the wild fucking west when they pick their orders. I don't really know these people and they're walking in with guns. You can not bitch about too many guns in America and then cut someone down for reacting in fear. Cop or civilian. There's a person in this story that lied and called a swat team over to an innocent person's house saying they were mentally ill and were armed with hostages, over a fucking video game and CE is shit posting about the policeman.

he should know to threat assess a weapon or no weapon. any officer/soldier in that position should and if they cant they shouldnt do the fucking job. pretty god damn simple.

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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:40:07 AM
#197:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke

Someone had to actually die to get this point across.

the sad thing is the point was already loud and clear to logical people...the dipshit no life trolls who do this stuff will keep doing it "for teh lulz"....

And even then you still have to wonder if this was really enough to drive the point home to them, and if not, what will?

Some asshole being executed for swatting, and even then maybe not.
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DrizztLink
12/30/17 12:41:23 AM
#198:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Well. It was only a matter of time. Hope these fuckers understand now swatting isn't a joke

Someone had to actually die to get this point across.

the sad thing is the point was already loud and clear to logical people...the dipshit no life trolls who do this stuff will keep doing it "for teh lulz"....

And even then you still have to wonder if this was really enough to drive the point home to them, and if not, what will?

Nothing.

These people are complete idiots, you see.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 12:48:13 AM
#199:


DrizztLink posted...

Nothing.

These people are complete idiots, you see.

This is quite actually the reality here.
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LordRazziel
12/30/17 12:52:09 AM
#200:


pinky0926 posted...
Bluebomber182 posted...
it was only a matter of time. swatting aint funny and fuck people that do it


Also this

Fuck everyone who thinks this shit is funny

Yep.

What ever happened to ordering a bunch of pizzas?
You still get to fuck with someone and have others waste time and resources. Best of all, no body fucking dies!
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thanosibe
12/30/17 12:54:30 AM
#201:


ItsYourFault posted...
thanosibe posted...
Kineth posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
Tryhaptaward posted...
Officers screamed at Finch to put his hands in the air, but Livingston said the 28-year-old moved a hand toward his waistband. An officer, fearing Finch was reaching for a gun, fired a single shot. Finch died minutes later.

Do you guys even read the fucking article?

What are the cops going to say? "He looked confused for a second so I shot him."


"I feared for my life!"
We bitch and moan about "every American has an arsenal; they're all gun lovers" and then when a policeman thinks someone might be reaching for a gun and shoots, we crusify him/her. I have customers at my job with open conceal that have guns on their hips like the wild fucking west when they pick their orders. I don't really know these people and they're walking in with guns. You can not bitch about too many guns in America and then cut someone down for reacting in fear. Cop or civilian. There's a person in this story that lied and called a swat team over to an innocent person's house saying they were mentally ill and were armed with hostages, over a fucking video game and CE is shit posting about the policeman.

he should know to threat assess a weapon or no weapon. any officer/soldier in that position should and if they cant they shouldnt do the fucking job. pretty god damn simple.

death penalty
Yup. I'm on CE.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/30/17 12:55:43 AM
#202:


DrizztLink posted...
Nothing.

These people are complete idiots, you see.


Literally why we can't have nice things.
"Oh there's a mechanism in place for emergency situations? Lets abuse the fuck out of it until it's no longer viable."

I mean what's next ambulancing, no one gets shot but the price of health care skyrockets!

Seriously, these people should be killed.
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