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KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:43:26 PM #303:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche. Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246744] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation</quote> This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche.</quote> Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:43:30 PM #304:	KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime. Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason At this point I'm not arguing whether or not the cop "murdered" the person but I also feel like the guy here is receiving blame for his "action" of lowering his hand. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893246748] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime.</quote> Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason</quote> At this point I'm not arguing whether or not the cop "murdered" the person but I also feel like the guy here is receiving blame for his "action" of lowering his hand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:45:44 PM #305:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche. Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic It is logical to assume untrained civilians will not immediately act logical in such a situation. There's a chance of confusion, fear, uneasiness, etc. You'd think police would have figured this out 6000+ years into human civilization. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893246856] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation</quote> This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche.</quote> Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic</quote> It is logical to assume untrained civilians will not immediately act logical in such a situation. There's a chance of confusion, fear, uneasiness, etc. You'd think police would have figured this out 6000+ years into human civilization.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:46:49 PM #307:	Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime. Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason At this point I'm not arguing whether or not the cop "murdered" the person but I also feel like the guy here is receiving blame for his "action" of lowering his hand. Its not so much blame...but more so a consequence of his actions. Which is down right unfortunate but ya --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246915] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime.</quote> Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason</quote> At this point I'm not arguing whether or not the cop "murdered" the person but I also feel like the guy here is receiving blame for his "action" of lowering his hand.</quote> Its not so much blame...but more so a consequence of his actions. Which is down right unfortunate but ya</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:47:56 PM #308:	Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893246965] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:48:12 PM #309:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche. Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic It is logical to assume untrained civilians will not immediately act logical in such a situation. There's a chance of confusion, fear, uneasiness, etc. You'd think police would have figured this out 6000+ years into human civilization. Lmfao hahahahaha you dont need to be trained to be like oh cops are telling me to keep my hands up..ill do that. Like youre acting like the cop said solve this sudoku puzzle --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246979] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation</quote> This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche.</quote> Oh stfu trained police officers know that guns are kept around the waistband so when u respond to an active shooter and hostage situation and you see the suspect not follow simple orders and reach for his waistband ...chances are theyre getting shot. I know hating cops is cool and all but use logic</quote> It is logical to assume untrained civilians will not immediately act logical in such a situation. There's a chance of confusion, fear, uneasiness, etc. You'd think police would have figured this out 6000+ years into human civilization.</quote> Lmfao hahahahaha you dont need to be trained to be like oh cops are telling me to keep my hands up..ill do that. Like youre acting like the cop said solve this sudoku puzzle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:49:15 PM #310:	hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. Youre comparing (probably a made up) a trAffic stop to a fucking active shooter who had hostages..... Bro stop playing hockey i dont think you can take anymore checks --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247041] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> Youre comparing (probably a made up) a trAffic stop to a fucking active shooter who had hostages..... Bro stop playing hockey i dont think you can take anymore checks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:51:44 PM #311:	That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893247163] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:52:17 PM #312:	More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893247187] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/01/18 5:53:09 PM #313:	hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:893247227] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:54:22 PM #314:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. Youre comparing (probably a made up) a trAffic stop to a fucking active shooter who had hostages..... Bro stop playing hockey i dont think you can take anymore checks It was a real stop and this guy wasn't an active shooter. Now tell me is that cop bad and is it wrong that I wasn't shot or at least dragged away in cuffs? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893247285] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> Youre comparing (probably a made up) a trAffic stop to a fucking active shooter who had hostages..... Bro stop playing hockey i dont think you can take anymore checks</quote> It was a real stop and this guy wasn't an active shooter. Now tell me is that cop bad and is it wrong that I wasn't shot or at least dragged away in cuffs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:55:12 PM #315:	Hexenherz posted... That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality. Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247341] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality.</quote> Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:56:07 PM #316:	hockeybub89 posted... More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse. Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247388] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse.</quote> Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:57:22 PM #317:	KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality. Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do It actually has nothing to do with hindsight. Do you even know what that term means? --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893247442] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality.</quote> Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do</quote> It actually has nothing to do with hindsight. Do you even know what that term means?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:57:56 PM #318:	marc55 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? Obviously a human being is going to get emotional when suddenly being treated as a crazed murderer because a troll got mad at him on Call of Duty and obviously cops have to fire at even a hint of non-compliance, so nothing could have prevented this. I guess that means the Swatter really should be charged with first-degree murder. Are you also trying to suggest that no one who has been swatted before has ever even shown a hint of emotional reaction before this guy? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893247474] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? Obviously a human being is going to get emotional when suddenly being treated as a crazed murderer because a troll got mad at him on Call of Duty and obviously cops have to fire at even a hint of non-compliance, so nothing could have prevented this. I guess that means the Swatter really should be charged with first-degree murder. Are you also trying to suggest that no one who has been swatted before has ever even shown a hint of emotional reaction before this guy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:00:00 PM #319:	Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality. Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do It actually has nothing to do with hindsight. Do you even know what that term means? It literally has everything to do with it. Cops didnt know he wasnt an active shooter til afterwards and you're only speaking on the fact that you knew he wasnt an active shooter. Now the only reason why you know he wasnt an active shooter is.....hindsight. You lack the capability to put yourself in the officers shoes before knowing the victim was innocent. Then again you also said a cop should shoot someone in a nonlethal area which is just dumb fucking movie logic --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247598] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>That's the problem though. He wasn't an active shooter with hostages -_-. So from his perspective it's not a clear cut case of "just follow the cop instructions", because from his perspective he had done nothing wrong and had given (in his mind) no reason for the cops to open fire on him. I know it's a really terrible misunderstanding, but I don't get this "the guy was dumb for not following orders" mentality.</quote> Thats called hindsight. Cops were unaware. And it doesnt matter if you done nothing wrong. When an officer gives you a simple command you just follow it. Its like the easiest thing to do. So yeah not following the police officers orders wasnt the smartest thing to do</quote> It actually has nothing to do with hindsight. Do you even know what that term means?</quote> It literally has everything to do with it. Cops didnt know he wasnt an active shooter til afterwards and you're only speaking on the fact that you knew he wasnt an active shooter. Now the only reason why you know he wasnt an active shooter is.....hindsight. You lack the capability to put yourself in the officers shoes before knowing the victim was innocent. Then again you also said a cop should shoot someone in a nonlethal area which is just dumb fucking movie logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:00:47 PM #320:	hockeybub89 posted... marc55 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ? No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247634] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ?</quote> No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 6:01:27 PM #321:	I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893247673] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 6:02:06 PM #322:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse. Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here Not everyone is a sociopath like you. Some of us have emotions in stressful situations. And this poor individual was thrown into an incredibly far more stressful situation where he was falsely accused. Again, I guess I now must tread very lightly online because I will assuredly be killed if I am swatted. Guess It's time to get that life insurance. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893247703] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse.</quote> Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here</quote> Not everyone is a sociopath like you. Some of us have emotions in stressful situations. And this poor individual was thrown into an incredibly far more stressful situation where he was falsely accused. Again, I guess I now must tread very lightly online because I will assuredly be killed if I am swatted. Guess It's time to get that life insurance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 6:02:25 PM #323:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... marc55 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ? No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged? --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893247718] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ?</quote> No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks</quote> lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:02:58 PM #324:	Hexenherz posted... I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances. No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh" --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247739] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances.</quote> No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:04:22 PM #325:	Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... marc55 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ? No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged? A traffic stop isnt going to be treated the same way an active shooter with hostages is going to be treated...like does this need to be spelled out in crayons nd pictures --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247801] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ?</quote> No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks</quote> lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged?</quote> A traffic stop isnt going to be treated the same way an active shooter with hostages is going to be treated...like does this need to be spelled out in crayons nd pictures</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:05:09 PM #326:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse. Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here Not everyone is a sociopath like you. Some of us have emotions in stressful situations. And this poor individual was thrown into an incredibly far more stressful situation where he was falsely accused. Again, I guess I now must tread very lightly online because I will assuredly be killed if I am swatted. Guess It's time to get that life insurance. Okay dude im a sociopath because i understand how logic works. Cool. Enjoy your new years buddy --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893247838] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>More people can probably solve a sudoku than react calmly to having the SWAT team suddenly up their ass. I know you haven't been on our planet long, but us Earthlings are emotional creatures prone to impulse.</quote> Dude you compared a traffic stop to a hostage situation. Take your fake intelligent elitist ass out of here</quote> Not everyone is a sociopath like you. Some of us have emotions in stressful situations. And this poor individual was thrown into an incredibly far more stressful situation where he was falsely accused. Again, I guess I now must tread very lightly online because I will assuredly be killed if I am swatted. Guess It's time to get that life insurance.</quote> Okay dude im a sociopath because i understand how logic works. Cool. Enjoy your new years buddy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 6:08:11 PM #327:	KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances. No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh" I did that for all of about two posts today. I even clearly delineated the point at which I stopped trying to argue anything about the cop's rationale. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893247990] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances.</quote> No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh"</quote> I did that for all of about two posts today. I even clearly delineated the point at which I stopped trying to argue anything about the cop's rationale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 6:08:46 PM #328:	KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... marc55 posted... hockeybub89 posted... Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law. did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage . So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ? No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged? A traffic stop isnt going to be treated the same way an active shooter with hostages is going to be treated...like does this need to be spelled out in crayons nd pictures I didn't say it did. I asked why the traffic stop is "bs" based on details provided about it. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893248017] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, I have taken my hands away from where a cop can see them when pulled over and not gotten shot, so maybe I should be worried that I am still alive. Means an incompetent police officer is walking free. I didn't even get a ticket and I was breaking the law.</quote> did that cop pulled you over a 911 call stating something close to this ? <quote> Finch was gunned down on Thursday night after cops believe Barriss told a 911 dispatcher that he had shot his father and was holding his mother and younger brother hostage</quote>.</quote> So what you're saying is the guy was just fucked? ?</quote> No we are saying dont compare your bs traffic stop to an active shooter with hostages You're comparing apples to bricks</quote> lol what makes it a "bs traffic stop"? Because the cop didn't shoot him for letting his hands out of sight for a moment or because he wasn't ticketed or charged?</quote> A traffic stop isnt going to be treated the same way an active shooter with hostages is going to be treated...like does this need to be spelled out in crayons nd pictures</quote> I didn't say it did. I asked why the traffic stop is "bs" based on details provided about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:09:24 PM #329:	Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances. No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh" I did that for all of about two posts today. I even clearly delineated the point at which I stopped trying to argue anything about the cop's rationale. So you fully understand why the cop shot and why the cop should receive no hate and punishment --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893248048] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not approaching this from the officer's perspective at all, I'm trying to explain why we need to stop trying to blame the victim in these circumstances.</quote> No one is blaming the victim. The blame goes to the prank caller. People are explaining why the cop acted the way he did and you're stomping your feet going "nah-uh"</quote> I did that for all of about two posts today. I even clearly delineated the point at which I stopped trying to argue anything about the cop's rationale.</quote> So you fully understand why the cop shot and why the cop should receive no hate and punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow Don 01/01/18 6:10:11 PM #330:	So basically our police force can easily be manipulated into becoming a literal murder weapon and some people are still pretending there isn't a problem with this. --- sigless user <cite>Shadow Don posted [p:893248083] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>So basically our police force can easily be manipulated into becoming a literal murder weapon and some people are still pretending there isn't a problem with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 01/01/18 6:12:09 PM #332:	Th3Truth posted... Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right? I did not know this. Would not surprise me. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893248199] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right?</quote> I did not know this. Would not surprise me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:15:23 PM #334:	Hexenherz posted... Th3Truth posted... Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right? I did not know this. Would not surprise me. Notice how theres not engaging just bullshit smear tactics. Only time accounts got banned are when i account suicide due to lost bets. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893248364] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right?</quote> I did not know this. Would not surprise me.</quote> Notice how theres not engaging just bullshit smear tactics. Only time accounts got banned are when i account suicide due to lost bets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:16:24 PM #335:	Th3Truth posted... Hexenherz posted... Th3Truth posted... Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right? I did not know this. Would not surprise me. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75455856 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75296173?page=1 Also refers to himself in the third person to hide that he's him. Guy's a nutcase. Damn i havent posted in months and you still troll, stalk, & fantasize about me. I see 2018 will be fun for you --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893248423] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right?</quote> I did not know this. Would not surprise me.</quote> https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75455856 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75296173?page=1 Also refers to himself in the third person to hide that he's him. Guy's a nutcase.</quote> Damn i havent posted in months and you still troll, stalk, & fantasize about me. I see 2018 will be fun for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 01/01/18 6:21:49 PM #337:	Th3Truth posted... KingCrabCake posted... Th3Truth posted... Hexenherz posted... Th3Truth posted... Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right? I did not know this. Would not surprise me. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75455856 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75296173?page=1 Also refers to himself in the third person to hide that he's him. Guy's a nutcase. Damn i havent posted in months and you still troll, stalk, & fantasize about me. I see 2018 will be fun for you Yeah, you've been in months long purgatory. And then you come back at news years to shitpost, already garnering over 130 active posts lol. Keep projecting, champ. No i wasnt. Lmfao now youre lying? Ive been posting in ps4 forums. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893248706] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Th3Truth posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone knows KingClownCake is Jerseyproud, the known shitposter who gets constantly suspended and has 3+ accounts banned for being a garbage person right?</quote> I did not know this. Would not surprise me.</quote> https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75455856 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/573081-hellhole/75296173?page=1 Also refers to himself in the third person to hide that he's him. Guy's a nutcase.</quote> Damn i havent posted in months and you still troll, stalk, & fantasize about me. I see 2018 will be fun for you</quote> Yeah, you've been in months long purgatory. And then you come back at news years to shitpost, already garnering over 130 active posts lol. Keep projecting, champ.</quote> No i wasnt. Lmfao now youre lying? Ive been posting in ps4 forums.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frosted_Midna 01/01/18 6:55:43 PM #338:	Tag --- It's more than good, it's alive! Warning: May contain stone hat pieces http://i.imgur.com/N6v5qZx.jpg <cite>Frosted_Midna posted [p:893250326] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/01/18 7:15:38 PM #339:	KingCrabCake posted... No one is blaming the victim You have been this entire topic <cite>Zikten posted [p:893251319] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>No one is blaming the victim</quote> You have been this entire topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 7:29:18 PM #340:	Zikten posted... KingCrabCake posted... No one is blaming the victim You have been this entire topic No i havent. I have been explaining why the cop shouldnt be blamed and why the victim was shot. Please keep up @Zikten --- Waaaah. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893252029] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>No one is blaming the victim</quote> You have been this entire topic</quote> No i havent. I have been explaining why the cop shouldnt be blamed and why the victim was shot. Please keep up @Zikten</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 01/01/18 7:34:41 PM #341:	Let's put this scenario out there. Let's say this was a legit hostage situation and the unfortunate victim really shot and killed his dad. If he was shot by the cop, the cop is a hero. No one complains about his action. Unfortunately this wasn't the case, BUT it's the case the entire squad believed they were in. They had zero idea this was a horrible prank that went too far. You cannot possibly blame the cop for doing what he did given the circumstances. The usual suspects are out in full force using hindsight to crucify someone who has zero fault. 100% of the blame goes to the shit stain swatter. And yes, the cop is absolutely a victim as well. He has to live with shooting and killing an innocent man for the rest of his life. While you other shit stains try to paint it like he woke up that morning looking to shoot someone. Non of you clowns ever stop to put yourself into those shoes or wait for more information. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:893252316] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Let's put this scenario out there. Let's say this was a legit hostage situation and the unfortunate victim really shot and killed his dad. If he was shot by the cop, the cop is a hero. No one complains about his action. Unfortunately this wasn't the case, BUT it's the case the entire squad believed they were in. They had zero idea this was a horrible prank that went too far. You cannot possibly blame the cop for doing what he did given the circumstances. The usual suspects are out in full force using hindsight to crucify someone who has zero fault. 100% of the blame goes to the shit stain swatter. And yes, the cop is absolutely a victim as well. He has to live with shooting and killing an innocent man for the rest of his life. While you other shit stains try to paint it like he woke up that morning looking to shoot someone. Non of you clowns ever stop to put yourself into those shoes or wait for more information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XXHornDogXX 01/01/18 8:47:16 PM #342:	Its easy for everyone behind their computers to say what the cops and victim should have ideally done. 99% of people here have never and will never be put into life-threatening extreme stress situations like this. Most people have never had a gun pointed at them, or even held a gun before. Of course, the cop shouldn't have shot but the victim also shouldn't have let down his hands. IMO neither is to blame tho. Its very unfortunate, but casualties like this do happen in these sorta situations just like friendly fire in war. Cops aren't superheroes, they're just people like us. And stress in these sorta situations affects them the same way it affects us and the victim. You can point the finger at the cop, saying he's a murderer. you can say what the victim should or shouldn't have done. but regardless, at the end of the day, there will always be one party who will always be 100% at fault and thats the "Swatter" <cite>XXHornDogXX posted [p:893256573] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Its easy for everyone behind their computers to say what the cops and victim should have ideally done. 99% of people here have never and will never be put into life-threatening extreme stress situations like this. Most people have never had a gun pointed at them, or even held a gun before. Of course, the cop shouldn't have shot but the victim also shouldn't have let down his hands. IMO neither is to blame tho. Its very unfortunate, but casualties like this do happen in these sorta situations just like friendly fire in war. Cops aren't superheroes, they're just people like us. And stress in these sorta situations affects them the same way it affects us and the victim. You can point the finger at the cop, saying he's a murderer. you can say what the victim should or shouldn't have done. but regardless, at the end of the day, there will always be one party who will always be 100% at fault and thats the "Swatter"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 01/02/18 6:07:15 AM #343:	XXHornDogXX posted... Its easy for everyone behind their computers to say what the cops and victim should have ideally done. 99% of people here have never and will never be put into life-threatening extreme stress situations like this. Most people have never had a gun pointed at them, or even held a gun before. Of course, the cop shouldn't have shot but the victim also shouldn't have let down his hands. IMO neither is to blame tho. Its very unfortunate, but casualties like this do happen in these sorta situations just like friendly fire in war. Cops aren't superheroes, they're just people like us. And stress in these sorta situations affects them the same way it affects us and the victim. You can point the finger at the cop, saying he's a murderer. you can say what the victim should or shouldn't have done. but regardless, at the end of the day, there will always be one party who will always be 100% at fault and thats the "Swatter" You're doing that "making sense" thing. Stahp it. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:893276952] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>Its easy for everyone behind their computers to say what the cops and victim should have ideally done. 99% of people here have never and will never be put into life-threatening extreme stress situations like this. Most people have never had a gun pointed at them, or even held a gun before. Of course, the cop shouldn't have shot but the victim also shouldn't have let down his hands. IMO neither is to blame tho. Its very unfortunate, but casualties like this do happen in these sorta situations just like friendly fire in war. Cops aren't superheroes, they're just people like us. And stress in these sorta situations affects them the same way it affects us and the victim. You can point the finger at the cop, saying he's a murderer. you can say what the victim should or shouldn't have done. but regardless, at the end of the day, there will always be one party who will always be 100% at fault and thats the "Swatter"</quote> You're doing that "making sense" thing. Stahp it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 01/02/18 7:58:51 PM #344:	Imagine ruining your life over a $1.50 bet he's going away for life In the interview, the man claims that he had also called in bomb threats to the Federal Communications Commission and an events center in Dallas. He also said he did not feel entirely responsible for Finchs death because he did not pull the trigger. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:893314854] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Imagine ruining your life over a $1.50 bet he's going away for life In the interview, the man claims that he had also called in bomb threats to the Federal Communications Commission and an events center in Dallas. He also said he did not feel entirely responsible for Finchs death because he did not pull the trigger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 01/02/18 8:15:06 PM #345:	Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile. --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:893315817] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
k darkfire 01/02/18 11:11:33 PM #346:	You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault? <cite>k darkfire posted [p:893325692] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/03/18 12:09:50 AM #347:	k darkfire posted... You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault? you make it sound like he chose to disobey consciously. he didn't. he was confused and didn't understand what was happening. the fact they were police didn't process in his brain and he wasn't hearing what they were saying cause when like 10 guns are aimed at you, I think you go deaf kindof, out of shock. it's easy to victim blame. let's see how well you perform when your in your home and then go to answer the door and 3 seconds later you see armed men screaming at you. everyone expects the victim to perform perfectly and give them death when they make a mistake. but the cops? oh no. the poor cops can make all the mistakes they want.... that's what you sound like <cite>Zikten posted [p:893328490] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault?</quote> you make it sound like he chose to disobey consciously. he didn't. he was confused and didn't understand what was happening. the fact they were police didn't process in his brain and he wasn't hearing what they were saying cause when like 10 guns are aimed at you, I think you go deaf kindof, out of shock. it's easy to victim blame. let's see how well you perform when your in your home and then go to answer the door and 3 seconds later you see armed men screaming at you. everyone expects the victim to perform perfectly and give them death when they make a mistake. but the cops? oh no. the poor cops can make all the mistakes they want.... that's what you sound like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/03/18 4:43:00 AM #348:	chrono625 posted... Let's put this scenario out there. Let's say this was a legit hostage situation and the unfortunate victim really shot and killed his dad. If he was shot by the cop, the cop is a hero. No one complains about his action. I mean people keep saying this, but if there was a hostage situation, and that guy was a dude who managed to escape and run out the door, he literally just killed a hostage. The officer's reaction to this is completely unwarranted. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893336434] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>chrono625 posted...</cite> <quote>Let's put this scenario out there. Let's say this was a legit hostage situation and the unfortunate victim really shot and killed his dad. If he was shot by the cop, the cop is a hero. No one complains about his action.</quote> I mean people keep saying this, but if there was a hostage situation, and that guy was a dude who managed to escape and run out the door, he literally just killed a hostage. The officer's reaction to this is completely unwarranted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 01/03/18 10:55:01 AM #349:	k darkfire posted... You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault? They shouldn't be so trigger happy. Dude was like 20 meters away with no visible weapons. Unless you're a scrub and thus shouldn't be a policeman, he can't reach, grab his weapon, and fire before you do. Cops need to be less trigger happy. They signed up to uphold peace and protect. Not to kill. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:893345857] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>You people literally can not judge them. As far as they knew they were facing an armed and very dangerous person. This man walks out and suddenly puts his hand towards his waist and you expect them to be ok with this? Idiot didn't follow basics fucking instructions. DO. NOT.MOVE. Any sudden movements and they're gunna shoot you. How is this in anyway their fault?</quote> They shouldn't be so trigger happy. Dude was like 20 meters away with no visible weapons. Unless you're a scrub and thus shouldn't be a policeman, he can't reach, grab his weapon, and fire before you do. Cops need to be less trigger happy. They signed up to uphold peace and protect. Not to kill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DELFON 01/03/18 11:33:39 AM #350:	Hexenherz posted... DELFON posted... Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat. Sorry, I didn't mean "joke" in a "haha" way. I meant that "if your premise were true" (and your logic makes sense) ... that just makes cop's actions all the more heinous. --- Just my two cents. <cite>DELFON posted [p:893347523] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DELFON posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat.</quote> Sorry, I didn't mean "joke" in a "haha" way. I meant that "if your premise were true" (and your logic makes sense) ... that just makes cop's actions all the more heinous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 01/04/18 9:54:52 AM #351:	Sphyx posted... Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile. they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:893404098] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile.</quote> they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/04/18 10:01:53 AM #352:	marc55 posted... Sphyx posted... Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile. they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it So what if it was a real call, and the person he shot was a hostage --- The artist formerly known as ShadowStarEdge <cite>Reis posted [p:893404359] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile.</quote> they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it</quote> So what if it was a real call, and the person he shot was a hostage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 01/04/18 5:04:10 PM #353:	Reis posted... marc55 posted... Sphyx posted... Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile. they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it So what if it was a real call, and the person he shot was a hostage You and others have a vendetta against cops and law enforcement. That's cool. But stop moving goal posts to vilify someone who wouldn't have been in this position had the shit head not made a prank call to police and claimed they had hostages and had already killed someone. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:893427032] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sphyx posted...</cite> <quote>Being sent out on a false call doesn't absolve a police officer of their part in shooting an innocent man. If you think that it does, you're a child or an imbecile.</quote> they didnt know it was a false call ....dont know why people here love to pretend cops are psychics and know everything we do now after reading the articles about it</quote> So what if it was a real call, and the person he shot was a hostage</quote> You and others have a vendetta against cops and law enforcement. That's cool. But stop moving goal posts to vilify someone who wouldn't have been in this position had the shit head not made a prank call to police and claimed they had hostages and had already killed someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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