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Thelema
12/17/17 8:22:11 PM
#302:


MuayThai85 posted...
Thelema posted...

Dogs are total slaves. Humans love to say things like, the dog is a humans best friend and shit. Humans are vain creatures, and a lot of us like dogs because of how mindless loyal they are to us I dont.

You can train a dog to do anything you want it to do. If you say sit, it will sit. A dog has a slave mindset, and is happy to devote their life to you.


Go visit any place with lots of stray dogs. Here in Thailand, stray dogs are everywhere and a lot of Thais let their dogs roam the neighbourhood.

Now look at the average street dog and a "slave" as you put it. Which dog do you think is happier? What about healthier? I guarantee you it isn't the street dogs.


Im not saying dogs should be stray dogs. I think dogs should live happy lives. I actually like all animals. All dogs, or the vast majority of dogs have this slave-ish nature - it is what makes them happy. Serving humans/living for humans is what makes dogs happy, so Im not against dogs living this type of life.

Other mammals however dont have this same instinct. This is what Im saying. Most animals dont have this instinct. Even dolphins tend to be friendly, but they arent devoted to people like dogs are. This is why calling someone a dog is generally an insult. Nobody wants to be associated with this passive behavior.
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marc55
12/17/17 8:57:27 PM
#303:


Thelema posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Thelema posted...
See, this is one of the reasons why I prefer cats, thank you. My cat respects me, and knows I can kick her ass.


my cat likes to bite me sometimes for no reason. she probably means no harm by it but shes broke skin before. I wanted to bitch smack her across the room but I do have some self control.


Yes, some cats will bite/scratch you, but thats the thing: they cant kill you. A domestic cat has never killed a human being. A cat cant even kill a human baby. I feel actually safe around a cat. I never feel 100% safe around a dog, doesnt matter the breed. My friend used to have this Golden Retriever and kept her at the apartment. This dog would always bark at me and look me in the eyes as if it wanted to bite my ass. Sorry, I dont want to own anything that could eat my guts for breakfast.

Plus, dogs are slaves. I dont want a slave. Doesnt matter if it is a happy/loyal slave.


are you sure you dont have a phobia to dogs?
many dogs are aggressive to people or animals who fear them
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0AbsoluteZero0
12/17/17 8:57:46 PM
#304:


@ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
It's pretty dumb to own a dog with such vicious killing instincts.

If you just want a pet, get a dog that doesn't kill people.

If you want a guard dog, get a strong but less vicious breed, like a G shep. A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.


Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals.

What an ignorant remark. Domestic animals still have killing instincts. Even if they aren't as great as their wild cousins' instincts, they're still there


Uh no. Not anymore than a human does.

Uh, yeah. Domestic house cats kill lots of things such as mice, rats, and birds even when they're well fed. Just because they're domesticated doesn't mean they've lost all of their killing instincts from the wild.

It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes


@0AbsoluteZero0
We're talking about humans you nit. Not flies, humans. Are you this clueless?

Are you this clueless? You said "Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals." This laughable statement is demonstrably false, and I called you on it.

Next, you tried to backpedal and claim that okay, they do have killing instincts, but no more than a human. Once again, you're way off the mark, as I showed with my example with house cats, who clearly have a much more pronounced instinct to kill than humans despite their domesticated status. And after all this, you have the nerve to act like I'm in the wrong?

You have no leg to stand on here. Once again, It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes.
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Thelema
12/17/17 9:06:19 PM
#305:


marc55 posted...
Thelema posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Thelema posted...
See, this is one of the reasons why I prefer cats, thank you. My cat respects me, and knows I can kick her ass.


my cat likes to bite me sometimes for no reason. she probably means no harm by it but shes broke skin before. I wanted to bitch smack her across the room but I do have some self control.


Yes, some cats will bite/scratch you, but thats the thing: they cant kill you. A domestic cat has never killed a human being. A cat cant even kill a human baby. I feel actually safe around a cat. I never feel 100% safe around a dog, doesnt matter the breed. My friend used to have this Golden Retriever and kept her at the apartment. This dog would always bark at me and look me in the eyes as if it wanted to bite my ass. Sorry, I dont want to own anything that could eat my guts for breakfast.

Plus, dogs are slaves. I dont want a slave. Doesnt matter if it is a happy/loyal slave.


are you sure you dont have a phobia to dogs?
many dogs are aggressive to people or animals who fear them


How am I supposed to be calm around a big ass animal which will be aggressive to me if I have fear of it? lol
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twitterfriends
12/17/17 9:26:15 PM
#306:


This is why I have zero respect for dog owners theyre some the most irresponsible people.
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Crazyman93
12/17/17 9:56:35 PM
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Fun Fact: Pit Bulls were originally bred to hunt bears. So they're dumb enough to charge a bear, have a haw that won't let up, and are vicious enough use it.
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REMercsChamp
12/17/17 9:57:41 PM
#308:


twitterfriends posted...
This is why I have zero respect for dog owners theyre some the most irresponsible people.

Dog owners are fucking annoying
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3khc
12/17/17 10:11:10 PM
#309:


Steve Nick posted...
A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.

Nope. Seen German Shepard attack for no reason. Was supposedly a trained guard dog, too.
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kronos96
12/17/17 10:18:37 PM
#310:


Primitive morons who think it's badass or territorial to own one of those dogs. The USA is filled with these idiots.

It's very attractive to people with gang mentality.
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mooreandrew58
12/17/17 10:21:24 PM
#311:


kronos96 posted...
Primitive morons who think it's badass or territorial to own one of those dogs. The USA is filled with these idiots.

It's very attractive to people with gang mentality.


I didn't get mine because I found it to be badass. both of them where abandoned by their original owners and long story short I ended up with them. one was thrown over the fence into some old woman's backyard. and by old I mean too old to be dealing with a dog bigger than a small breed. and the other was tossed over the fence of the local animal shelter (they where closed when the person apparently did it)

though I get where you are coming from. though as I said earlier. the type of dog changes with the times. it will move on to another breed eventually.
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Window_Starer
12/17/17 10:24:47 PM
#312:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
@ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
It's pretty dumb to own a dog with such vicious killing instincts.

If you just want a pet, get a dog that doesn't kill people.

If you want a guard dog, get a strong but less vicious breed, like a G shep. A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.


Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals.

What an ignorant remark. Domestic animals still have killing instincts. Even if they aren't as great as their wild cousins' instincts, they're still there


Uh no. Not anymore than a human does.

Uh, yeah. Domestic house cats kill lots of things such as mice, rats, and birds even when they're well fed. Just because they're domesticated doesn't mean they've lost all of their killing instincts from the wild.

It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes


@0AbsoluteZero0
We're talking about humans you nit. Not flies, humans. Are you this clueless?

Are you this clueless? You said "Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals." This laughable statement is demonstrably false, and I called you on it.

Next, you tried to backpedal and claim that okay, they do have killing instincts, but no more than a human. Once again, you're way off the mark, as I showed with my example with house cats, who clearly have a much more pronounced instinct to kill than humans despite their domesticated status. And after all this, you have the nerve to act like I'm in the wrong?

You have no leg to stand on here. Once again, It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes.

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marc55
12/17/17 10:24:55 PM
#313:


3khc posted...
Steve Nick posted...
A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.

Nope. Seen German Shepard attack for no reason. Was supposedly a trained guard dog, too.


yep i was almost bit by one before one of the owner neighbors warned me about the dog biting anyone who walks by close enough to the fence
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Benjamin_Sisko
12/17/17 10:28:02 PM
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SnakePlisken94
12/17/17 10:41:57 PM
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We used to have a pit bull(well it was mix to be fair )
We found it on the street and kept it until it died of old age.
It was the sweetest dog I've ever seen.
She almost never barked,never caused any issues either.She preferred humans and didn't really enjoy being around other dogs.
It was a great companion but a poor watchdog.
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Thelema
12/17/17 10:50:38 PM
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I think having a pitbull like this should be against the law actually. As someone said before, if you think carefully, it is not that different from raising a tiger or having a pet crocodile. It is a deadly animal. It is a threat not only to yourself, but to others as well. If not against the law, it should be regulated in a more strict way. It is like having a gun. You need to have more responsibility than the average person to take care of it.
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DezCaughtIt
12/17/17 10:51:12 PM
#318:


cnekans posted...
No but seriously Ive never met a pit bull owner who didnt go on at length about their pit with very little prodding.

So conflicted because if I say I have a pit I'll be doing said thing but also I never talk about my dog unless we talking good boys
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mooreandrew58
12/17/17 10:54:05 PM
#319:


DezCaughtIt posted...
cnekans posted...
No but seriously Ive never met a pit bull owner who didnt go on at length about their pit with very little prodding.

So conflicted because if I say I have a pit I'll be doing said thing but also I never talk about my dog unless we talking good boys


the topic is literally about pitbulls so I figure it would be ok in this case. I mean that line of thinking is kind of stupid just like with vegans. yeah lots of vegans seem to love telling you even when you didn't ask. but if you came across one that didn't say anything how would you even know.
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Leanaunfurled
12/17/17 11:51:42 PM
#320:


Thelema posted...
I think having a pitbull like this should be against the law actually. As someone said before, if you think carefully, it is not that different from raising a tiger or having a pet crocodile. It is a deadly animal. It is a threat not only to yourself, but to others as well. If not against the law, it should be regulated in a more strict way. It is like having a gun. You need to have more responsibility than the average person to take care of it.

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Thelema
12/17/17 11:58:44 PM
#321:


Leanaunfurled posted...
Thelema posted...
I think having a pitbull like this should be against the law actually. As someone said before, if you think carefully, it is not that different from raising a tiger or having a pet crocodile. It is a deadly animal. It is a threat not only to yourself, but to others as well. If not against the law, it should be regulated in a more strict way. It is like having a gun. You need to have more responsibility than the average person to take care of it.

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Whats funny? Having a pet Pitbull isnt something which should be taken so lightly. It carries risks. People who raise those animals should be very aware of this.
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ChromaticAngel
12/18/17 12:09:36 AM
#322:


Taharqa_ posted...
Wow that comment really upped the crazy in this topic. I thought the "A lone Pit Bull can take down a horse comment" was the craziest one.


list of articles in which a horse was attacked or killed by a pit bull. No summary or anything there, just links to the news articles. Several of them killed by a single pit bull.

https://www.dogsbite.org/blog-posts-dog-attacks-horses.php
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A_Good_Boy
12/18/17 12:17:26 AM
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Ooh boy, blog posts. Cause when I want a source that goes through more rigorous fact checking than news articles (which suck spectacularly at identifying dog breeds), I'm going to use blogs instead lol.
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Tryhaptaward
12/18/17 12:18:59 AM
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I'm only like 1/3rd of the way through this topic, but fucking vegans man
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ChainedRedone
12/18/17 12:24:39 AM
#325:


Window_Starer posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
@ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...

ChainedRedone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
It's pretty dumb to own a dog with such vicious killing instincts.

If you just want a pet, get a dog that doesn't kill people.

If you want a guard dog, get a strong but less vicious breed, like a G shep. A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.


Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals.

What an ignorant remark. Domestic animals still have killing instincts. Even if they aren't as great as their wild cousins' instincts, they're still there


Uh no. Not anymore than a human does.

Uh, yeah. Domestic house cats kill lots of things such as mice, rats, and birds even when they're well fed. Just because they're domesticated doesn't mean they've lost all of their killing instincts from the wild.

It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistake/blockquote>

@0AbsoluteZero0
We're talking about humans you nit. Not flies, humans. Are you this clueless?

Are you this clueless? You said "Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals." This laughable statement is demonstrably false, and I called you on it.

Next, you tried to backpedal and claim that okay, they do have killing instincts, but no more than a human. Once again, you're way off the mark, as I showed with my example with house cats, who clearly have a much more pronounced instinct to kill than humans despite their domesticated status. And after all this, you have the nerve to act like I'm in the wrong?

You have no leg to stand on here. Once again, It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes.

lol

@0AbsoluteZero0
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Thelema
12/18/17 12:28:07 AM
#326:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Ooh boy, blog posts. Cause when I want a source that goes through more rigorous fact checking than news articles (which suck spectacularly at identifying dog breeds), I'm going to use blogs instead lol.


Because obviously all those links are false/mistaken.

No. If you have a neuron, it is easy to see that most of them are probably true.
I dont know why you doubt a Pitbull could take down a horse. Not every horse is extremely strong. If you have such strong doubts, youve probably never seen a horse, or a Pitbull.
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mooreandrew58
12/18/17 12:31:03 AM
#327:


Thelema posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Ooh boy, blog posts. Cause when I want a source that goes through more rigorous fact checking than news articles (which suck spectacularly at identifying dog breeds), I'm going to use blogs instead lol.


Because obviously all those links are false/mistaken.

No. If you have a neuron, it is easy to see that most of them are probably true.
I dont know why you doubt a Pitbull could take down a horse. Not every horse is extremely strong. If you have such strong doubts, youve probably never seen a horse, or a Pitbull.


having worked some stables, i'll just say this. only reason a dog would be able to take on a horse is because they tend to be timid creatures. they are however far stronger than the dog. but at least the horses I worked with would be quicker to try and flee rather than defend themselves.

the horses I worked with though where either the pets of rich people, or people who used them for shows. idk how much that affects their temperament
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A_Good_Boy
12/18/17 12:50:27 AM
#328:


Thelema posted...
No. If you have a neuron, it is easy to see that most of them are probably true.

Lmao man this topic

If pitbull lovers are like vegans then you pitbull lovers are obviously like religious fundies, just jumping at shadows based off of hearsey and bullshit.

Ooohhhh the big old mean scary pitbull is gonna come for you after it wets its whistle from eating that bear and horse it just took down on its lonesome rofl
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ManBearFoxIII
12/18/17 1:14:04 AM
#329:


I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.
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Taharqa_
12/18/17 1:17:47 AM
#330:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Wow that comment really upped the crazy in this topic. I thought the "A lone Pit Bull can take down a horse comment" was the craziest one.


list of articles in which a horse was attacked or killed by a pit bull. No summary or anything there, just links to the news articles. Several of them killed by a single pit bull.

https://www.dogsbite.org/blog-posts-dog-attacks-horses.php


The David Wolfe of dog websites strikes again!

Dogsbite.org is not run by a canine behaviorist or expert and considers American Bulldogs to be Pit Bulls, nuff said.
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mooreandrew58
12/18/17 1:18:27 AM
#331:


ManBearFoxIII posted...
I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.


maybe because in my experience i've never seen it happen but i've seen plenty of other breeds bite people. I have a scar on my wrist from a rat terrier. knew a dachshund that would become aggressive if food was involved at all and she got the slightest impression you were going to try and take it from her. and several others. usually small breeds too, not as likely to cause major damage but from all i've seen they are quicker to attack for less reason.
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The_Scarecrow
12/18/17 2:19:17 AM
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Now this is a CE topic.
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A_Good_Boy
12/18/17 2:41:15 AM
#333:


ManBearFoxIII posted...
I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.

Mr "no reason" is literally the last one to be speaking on the subject lol
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ManBearFoxIII
12/18/17 3:55:53 AM
#334:


A_Good_Boy posted...
ManBearFoxIII posted...
I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.

Mr "no reason" is literally the last one to be speaking on the subject lol


Dude, get. The. Fuck. Out of here. I'm choosing not to get as offended as I should because I know I wasn't a terrible owner. Did I neglect my dog at times? Sure. But you making me out to be some devil that beat my starving dog every night after work is way extreme.

We (my roommates and I) treated our pit very well, then shit got real, and we had to start treating him like, guess what, A DOG. As I stated earlier, times were rough for everyone and we didn't have the luxury of feeding him steak and eggs every day. Did he eat? Yes. Did he have shelter? Yes. Did things eventually get better? Thankfully, yes. I suppose I'm saying all this in my defense, but also in addition to halt this train of thought ITT that anything below spoiling your dog rotten is neglect/abuse.

My dog was treated, for a few months, like a regular dog, as opposed to royalty, and some of you are acting like I've committed bloody murder by having him sleep outside. This is even more irritating seeing as my first post was not even against all pit bulls and I even admitted that my specific situation may have contributed to the negative stigma. The fact that you'll keep running away with the small instance of temporary neglect while ignoring everything else stated in this topic regarding their hot-headed natures is quite pathetic, tbh.

Sure, even if I was a terrible dog owner, could you please explain why the other dog, a lab/boxer mix, suffering the exact same conditions did not become overly aggressive? Or will you continue to ignore that pit bulls (or pit bull lookalikes, whatever) have perhaps earned this reputation all by themselves?

I am certainly not one to blindly accept a mass population's opinion as fact, mind you, but I do believe if enough people are saying it, it may be worth looking into. Maybe you pit bull supporters could benefit from doing the same.
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kingdrake2
12/18/17 4:19:10 AM
#335:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgtn6DPBlz4


skip down about :7 seconds in.
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mooreandrew58
12/18/17 4:21:45 AM
#336:


kingdrake2 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgtn6DPBlz4


skip down about :7 seconds in.


wish mine liked baths that much. they don't fight me exactly. they just become dead weight I have to physically carry them in and put them in the tub. then they just stand there looking sad the entire time.
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Kim Kusanagi
12/18/17 5:13:30 AM
#337:


Steve Nick posted...
My sister had a chihuahua that was f***ing vicious and would try to fight anything.


Your sister isn't a good pet keeper
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Kim Kusanagi
12/18/17 5:15:04 AM
#338:


ManBearFoxIII posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ManBearFoxIII posted...
I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.

Mr "no reason" is literally the last one to be speaking on the subject lol


Dude, get. The. Fuck. Out of here. I'm choosing not to get as offended as I should because I know I wasn't a terrible owner. Did I neglect my dog at times? Sure. But you making me out to be some devil that beat my starving dog every night after work is way extreme.

We (my roommates and I) treated our pit very well, then shit got real, and we had to start treating him like, guess what, A DOG. As I stated earlier, times were rough for everyone and we didn't have the luxury of feeding him steak and eggs every day. Did he eat? Yes. Did he have shelter? Yes. Did things eventually get better? Thankfully, yes. I suppose I'm saying all this in my defense, but also in addition to halt this train of thought ITT that anything below spoiling your dog rotten is neglect/abuse.

My dog was treated, for a few months, like a regular dog, as opposed to royalty, and some of you are acting like I've committed bloody murder by having him sleep outside. This is even more irritating seeing as my first post was not even against all pit bulls and I even admitted that my specific situation may have contributed to the negative stigma. The fact that you'll keep running away with the small instance of temporary neglect while ignoring everything else stated in this topic regarding their hot-headed natures is quite pathetic, tbh.

Sure, even if I was a terrible dog owner, could you please explain why the other dog, a lab/boxer mix, suffering the exact same conditions did not become overly aggressive? Or will you continue to ignore that pit bulls (or pit bull lookalikes, whatever) have perhaps earned this reputation all by themselves?

I am certainly not one to blindly accept a mass population's opinion as fact, mind you, but I do believe if enough people are saying it, it may be worth looking into. Maybe you pit bull supporters could benefit from doing the same.


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EverDownward
12/18/17 5:20:07 AM
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Need context. My family's bred and kept pits for close to two decades now, and all the ones we personally raised are good dogs.
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mooreandrew58
12/18/17 5:22:59 AM
#340:


EverDownward posted...
Need context. My family's bred and kept pits for close to two decades now, and all the ones we personally raised are good dogs.


yeah its pretty much up to how they are raised. though even then i'm sure you can still come across one thats simply broke in the head or requires less hardship to get to that point. not all dogs are alike mentally just like not all humans are alike mentally.
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Kim Kusanagi
12/18/17 6:05:29 AM
#341:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
@ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
Steve Nick posted...
It's pretty dumb to own a dog with such vicious killing instincts.

If you just want a pet, get a dog that doesn't kill people.

If you want a guard dog, get a strong but less vicious breed, like a G shep. A g shep will protect but ain't gonna mangle someone up for little/no reason.


Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals.

What an ignorant remark. Domestic animals still have killing instincts. Even if they aren't as great as their wild cousins' instincts, they're still there


Uh no. Not anymore than a human does.

Uh, yeah. Domestic house cats kill lots of things such as mice, rats, and birds even when they're well fed. Just because they're domesticated doesn't mean they've lost all of their killing instincts from the wild.

It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes


@0AbsoluteZero0
We're talking about humans you nit. Not flies, humans. Are you this clueless?

Are you this clueless? You said "Pitbulls don't have killing instincts. They're domesticated animals." This laughable statement is demonstrably false, and I called you on it.

Next, you tried to backpedal and claim that okay, they do have killing instincts, but no more than a human. Once again, you're way off the mark, as I showed with my example with house cats, who clearly have a much more pronounced instinct to kill than humans despite their domesticated status. And after all this, you have the nerve to act like I'm in the wrong?

You have no leg to stand on here. Once again, It's okay to admit you're wrong. We all make mistakes.


Lol
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ManBearFoxIII
12/18/17 8:09:30 AM
#342:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
ManBearFoxIII posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ManBearFoxIII posted...
I'm not understanding why it's so hard to admit why owning a pit bull may have more risk than a more timid dog such as a lab or retriever. Like, I get the whole, 'take one side and stand strong," mentality, but come on guys. There have been enough instances to suggest, if not outright prove, that pits are at least more likely to bite than other breeds.

Personally, I don't care if it's my fault or the dog's vault that I or someone got mauled to death. I'm not chancing that ever again.

Mr "no reason" is literally the last one to be speaking on the subject lol


Dude, get. The. Fuck. Out of here. I'm choosing not to get as offended as I should because I know I wasn't a terrible owner. Did I neglect my dog at times? Sure. But you making me out to be some devil that beat my starving dog every night after work is way extreme.

We (my roommates and I) treated our pit very well, then shit got real, and we had to start treating him like, guess what, A DOG. As I stated earlier, times were rough for everyone and we didn't have the luxury of feeding him steak and eggs every day. Did he eat? Yes. Did he have shelter? Yes. Did things eventually get better? Thankfully, yes. I suppose I'm saying all this in my defense, but also in addition to halt this train of thought ITT that anything below spoiling your dog rotten is neglect/abuse.

My dog was treated, for a few months, like a regular dog, as opposed to royalty, and some of you are acting like I've committed bloody murder by having him sleep outside. This is even more irritating seeing as my first post was not even against all pit bulls and I even admitted that my specific situation may have contributed to the negative stigma. The fact that you'll keep running away with the small instance of temporary neglect while ignoring everything else stated in this topic regarding their hot-headed natures is quite pathetic, tbh.

Sure, even if I was a terrible dog owner, could you please explain why the other dog, a lab/boxer mix, suffering the exact same conditions did not become overly aggressive? Or will you continue to ignore that pit bulls (or pit bull lookalikes, whatever) have perhaps earned this reputation all by themselves?

I am certainly not one to blindly accept a mass population's opinion as fact, mind you, but I do believe if enough people are saying it, it may be worth looking into. Maybe you pit bull supporters could benefit from doing the same.


Shitty owner spotted there


Shitty poster spotted here.
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Kim Kusanagi
12/18/17 8:17:40 AM
#343:


ManBearFoxIII posted...
s***ty poster spotted here.


Whatever dude I know how to handle dogs and don't compare their behavior to that of a fucking fully grown adult person.
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CEs_EFG
12/18/17 9:49:36 AM
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thelovefist
12/18/17 9:50:56 AM
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I am happy that Pitbulls are outlawed where I live.
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Balrog0
12/18/17 10:20:15 AM
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CEs_EFG posted...
GrAyFoX312k posted...
http://dogtime.com/dog-health/general/1220-american-pit-bull-terrier-temperament-dog-bites


>dog doesn't maul someone during testing means they must be safe and comparable to Golden retrievers

https://www.livescience.com/27145-are-pit-bulls-dangerous.html

A five-year review of dog-bite injuries from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, published in 2009 in the journal Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, found that almost 51 percent of the attacks were from pit bulls, almost 9 percent were from Rottweilers and 6 percent were from mixes of those two breeds.


also

https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php?gclid=CjwKCAiA693RBRAwEiwALCc3u3Dd0HI0cf7kksT65CHj8hhSL9B6mCchMnBWSrag7DmxERtoVVdYIRoCVxEQAvD_BwE

31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.3
Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 12-year period of 2005 to 2016.


on average its still about as dangerous as like smoking in the house with your kids or something though
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Leanaunfurled
12/18/17 12:26:19 PM
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I like how everyone ITT is still ignoring the fact that the dogs in the OP aren't pit bulls.

But whatever, deeemmmoonnnnss. rofl
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Taharqa_
12/18/17 12:28:10 PM
#351:


ClunkerSlim posted...
One of the comments in the article proposed the theory that the two dogs started fighting with each other and then they turned on her when she tried to break them up.

Thats what I would expect from pit bull behavior. Theyre great, but then some small thing sets them off and all hell breaks loose. Its like they blank out and killer instinct takes over. Maybe these two dogs started fighting over some piece of food or something in the road. She got in the way and then thats all it took. Dead.


Just to note that there is no such thing as 125 lb "Pit Bulls" like the ones in this article. I have to reiterate that once again.

If we can call 125 lb dogs Pit Bulls then a harlequin Great Dane is a Dalmatian.
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