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Xiahou Shake
10/06/17 3:10:08 PM
#302:


Is AA that different from arena? I've seen people talking like it is, but from what little I've messed with it, it just seems to be seven arena matches in a row, right? Are people just talking about it differently because you're forced to use more than your usual core team?
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Yankees
10/06/17 3:14:12 PM
#303:


Yeah, the key thing is that you're forced to use more than your core team, and you can see the opposing team before entering. So you could put breakers on characters of your choice and only bring them in when you know they will do their job
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Xuxon
10/06/17 3:16:21 PM
#304:


the difference is, in AA you can see their team and the map and then pick your team. that glacies build might not be so great for Sonya in regular arena, where you're not gonna face Reinhardt every time, and when you don't you might waste her dark aura effect.
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Lopen
10/06/17 3:34:13 PM
#305:


... wait you can see their team and the map? What?
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MrSmartGuy
10/06/17 3:40:00 PM
#306:


There's a Check Map button at the bottom while you set up your team, yeah.
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Yankees
10/06/17 3:40:02 PM
#307:


Check map on the bottom of the team selection page. It's a lot more manageable once you figure that out. I don't think it was widely advertised (or at all) when arena assault was released.

TT and CC allows you the same luxury if you haven't noticed.
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Xiahou Shake
10/06/17 3:51:41 PM
#308:


MrSmartGuy posted...
There's a Check Map button at the bottom while you set up your team, yeah.

Game changer, holy shit
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KamikazePotato
10/06/17 3:52:29 PM
#309:


Wait you people didn't know about that? It's the entire point of Arena Assault!
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Lopen
10/06/17 4:21:51 PM
#310:


I thought the point of arena assault was "have the largest number of vaguely arena viable teams possible"

Checking the map, man, this is gonna be easy mode!
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barreldragon88
10/06/17 4:24:24 PM
#311:


KamikazePotato posted...
Expand your barracks.

I probably have the biggest barracks size here.
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KamikazePotato
10/06/17 4:24:49 PM
#312:


Expand them more. Gotta catch em all.
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KamikazePotato
10/06/17 4:25:43 PM
#313:


Also, my Oscar currently has Rally Spd/Def, Hone Attack in C Slot, and Fortify Res as his Seal. He's ready to be Gronnblade Soren's battle buddy.
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Xuxon
10/06/17 11:49:00 PM
#314:


barreldragon88 posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Expand your barracks.

I probably have the biggest barracks size here.

not a chance. mine is at 420.
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barreldragon88
10/07/17 12:03:56 AM
#315:


Dude, I have 500.

JK, you take the cake!

Must be fun to manage that many units
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theawesomestevr
10/07/17 12:43:00 AM
#316:


Have been trying to play as little of this game as possible while still completing quests and whatnot. I'm now at 455 due to just avoiding managing my superflulous units for as long as I can.
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Terastodon
10/07/17 1:02:49 AM
#317:


I have 200 barracks capacity.
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Dark Young Link
10/07/17 1:10:39 AM
#318:


Getting past the top 10k in TT requires over 123k points just FYI for anyone thinking about doing some last minute grinding.

Of course that'll likely change in two hours.
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Lopen
10/07/17 1:43:14 AM
#319:


Wait are you saying you need that to get into the tier beyond top 10k, or into the top 10k?
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KamikazePotato
10/07/17 1:46:15 AM
#320:


I have 125k points and I'm Rank 9133.
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Lopen
10/07/17 1:48:28 AM
#321:


Damn. Separation really ramps up huh. I'm at 110k and am rank 15k or so. 100k was really close to 50000 even.

Well guess I'll stop-- at least I've no risk of being bopped into the next tier down.
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Lopen
10/07/17 3:16:59 AM
#322:


Related news currently at 5.25% pity pull. New record yeahhh.

If I knew I was gonna have to spend over 200 orbs to get a 5* on this dancer banner I wouldn't have bothered but at this point it's sunk cost man.
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WhiteLens
10/07/17 1:48:11 PM
#323:


And here I am pulling a 5* from the free pull on the Blood of Dragons Block B banner.

It's Sophia. \_()_/
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barreldragon88
10/08/17 11:49:17 AM
#324:


Lopen posted...
Related news currently at 5.25% pity pull. New record yeahhh.

If I knew I was gonna have to spend over 200 orbs to get a 5* on this dancer banner I wouldn't have bothered but at this point it's sunk cost man.

Don't you have a lot of orbs saved up? Splurge a little!
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Lopen
10/08/17 2:53:52 PM
#325:


I had orbs saved up. Before I was at around 4.75% pity pull.

Now I'm just trickling in draws as I earn em. I do have a decent amount of story stages on the board but yeah.
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Lopen
10/08/17 4:27:28 PM
#326:


Well got an Inigo. Would've rather got Azura or Olivia but oh well at least he's from the banner. +ATK -DEF seems like a good combo with him if I wanna do the antihorse build.

Also got a 5* Chrom on the final pull. Would've been exciting if he wasn't -Atk but if I ever get one with good nature I'll instantly have +1 at least.
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Dark Young Link
10/08/17 11:58:19 PM
#327:


New update is available.

You can now tell at a glance what content

QQL Voting Gauntlet highlights your first unit in the party.

Oh and there was a datamine...

We're getting a BHB soon, and Chapter 14?

There's something called a Sacred Seal Forge

Oh and apparently they finally revealed what Sacred Coins are going to be used for.
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Dark Young Link
10/09/17 12:13:10 AM
#328:


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Very nice, if true. I guess we'll see in 3 hours.
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Xuxon
10/09/17 12:40:22 AM
#329:


i really hope that's in addition to orbs and not instead of them
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Dark Young Link
10/09/17 1:00:21 AM
#330:


Same.

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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:23:55 AM
#331:


Apparently the new seals crap on the OHKO meta

Example:

MSID_H_1: If unit receives consecutive attacks from\na foe using magic, damage from\nsecond attack onward reduced by 30%.
MSID_H_2: If unit receives consecutive attacks from\na foe using magic, damage from\nsecond attack onward reduced by 50%.
MSID_H_3: If unit receives consecutive attacks from\na foe using magic, damage from\nsecond attack onward reduced by 80%.
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Lopen
10/09/17 1:29:25 AM
#332:


More like craps on Reinhardt

Unless you're saying there are equivalent ones for physicals too

I'd be much happier if there weren't-- let's just crap on Reinhardt exclusively
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:30:04 AM
#333:


Lopen posted...
Unless you're saying there are equivalent ones for physicals too

There are. One each for magic, melee, and ranged physical.
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Lopen
10/09/17 1:35:00 AM
#334:


Seems like it wouldn't exactly crap on it then. It'd just give you more options to exploit the AI I think. But as the player you can play around them by mixing and matching your OHKO options to the right seals

I'm glad they at least realize there's a problem, though. That gives hope that the game might one day have something resembling balance to it.
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:40:30 AM
#335:


Considering 90% of the OHKO meta involves explosive magic (with 10% Bridelia and Brave BowLyn), I think it neuters it pretty effectively. Every team is going to run one unit with the reduce-magic seal that can counter Brave users, and that's really all that's needed.

I don't think anyone is going to use the reduce melee seal at all. I can't remember the last time I saw a brave melee user.

Blade tome users focused on killing with one big attack are going to come back into vogue, I think. Be on the lookout for lots of Ninos! Luckily the AI isn't going to be able to utilize those kinds of units nearly as well as Brave weapon users.
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Lopen
10/09/17 1:44:26 AM
#336:


Like I said I think it helps you as the player because you can bait the AI with your appropriate seal

But like, if I see all 3 of those seals on the enemy team, if I'm running Brave Bow + Reinhardt or whatever I can mix and match them to the appropriate foe.

Not that I use Reinhardt cause screw that guy but you know what I mean. They should still be pretty potent options on the player end because of the one seal restriction. If you could seal up whole teams then yeah it'd be a bit more killer for Reinhardt.
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:46:01 AM
#337:


That's true, but I don't use Reinhardt so all I really care about is the Arena Defense aspect of this change.
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Lopen
10/09/17 1:47:41 AM
#338:


Yeah it'll probably make people use him less on their defense teams because it'll be more trivial to neuter him, which is always good.

What I really want is like, a fortify special exclusive to staff users that gives that buff or something. That'd be killer.
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:51:18 AM
#339:


The real buff that staff users need is for them to somehow not drag down on your Arena score. I actually think my standard setup of Pain+Rehabilitate+Live to Serve makes for a damn effective healer that I wouldn't mind bringing into Arena, but it's hard to when they tank your score so badly.
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Lopen
10/09/17 1:54:24 AM
#340:


Real talk, stat totals shouldn't even matter for Arena score. It's kinda clownish that they do. Should entirely be merges + rarity + skill inheritance, with the latter not being about raw points but just slots used.
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 1:56:58 AM
#341:


Yeah I've never liked it. Actually makes high-ranking Arena stuff super boring too. All I'm facing are Armor units.
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Dark Young Link
10/09/17 3:31:13 AM
#342:


Xuxon posted...
i really hope that's in addition to orbs and not instead of them


They are indeed in addition to our regular orbs.

So it looks like we can create seals(Including any you may have missed. I'm seeing the Phantom Spd 1 seal available), and we can also upgrade the seals!

Panic Ploy and Distant Defense Seals are both very tempting to upgrade. Fully upgraded it's basically like getting a free skill slot. That's crazy.

Looks like we can't upgrade Quickened Pulse though :P

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Grimmer
10/09/17 3:45:58 AM
#343:


Lopen posted...
Real talk, stat totals shouldn't even matter for Arena score. It's kinda clownish that they do. Should entirely be merges + rarity + skill inheritance, with the latter not being about raw points but just slots used.

This is what I've always thought should be the case. There would be greater variety in the teams you fight as well.
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Xuxon
10/09/17 4:20:29 AM
#344:


oh wow. Ninian has more votes than all 3 of FCorrin, Nowi and ATiki combined. YTiki is actually in second by a hair over Nowi. i greatly underestimated oldFE.
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Dark Young Link
10/09/17 4:36:15 AM
#345:


Dear Naga, did I misjudge how popular Ninian was going to be in this.

Also Y.Tiki with more votes than F.Corrin. Heh.
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Xuxon
10/09/17 10:20:09 AM
#346:


dang, even though i used the same AA team as last week i got 15 less points and i'm just outside top 5k. don't really feel like redoing it.
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Grimmer
10/09/17 10:32:57 AM
#347:


My team got the exact same 4870 score but it is looking sketchy for top 5k. Rank 4717 now. Competition is getting higher and I'm not going to try for maybe better
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barreldragon88
10/09/17 10:34:55 AM
#348:


Fuck, I've been affected by this stupid update bug that when I go to the App Store to update, there is no option to do so. People said try to reboot phone, but that didn't solve anything. I was in the middle of finishing the AA quests and now who knows when this shit will be fixed.
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greengravy294
10/09/17 10:51:20 AM
#349:


i feel like alot of casuals would like ninian. probably got a bump from hero fest 2, for instance (this is more or less why my girlfriend picked ninian, since she got her on that banner)

but who knows
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HashtagSEP
10/09/17 10:53:25 AM
#350:


barreldragon88 posted...
Fuck, I've been affected by this stupid update bug that when I go to the App Store to update, there is no option to do so. People said try to reboot phone, but that didn't solve anything. I was in the middle of finishing the AA quests and now who knows when this shit will be fixed.


I had the same issue

I turned off my phone, turned it back on, then went to Fire Emblem in the store, selected "Open," and then when it said it needed an update and sent me back, it finally said "Update."

EDIT: Actually, ignore that. Despite downloading the update, the game is still telling me to update.
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KamikazePotato
10/09/17 2:14:46 PM
#351:


Looking at the new Seals, I think that Panic Ploy is going to be more anti-meta than anything else. Being able to put the Level 3 version of that on anyone is reeeeally good.
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