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NFUN
09/19/17 2:27:42 PM
#427:


HaRRicH posted...
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what about the alt left though


Yeah! With their copies at home of Harry Potter! Did you know some of these people keep multiple copies together in a row?!

Terrible people tbh
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Corrik
09/19/17 2:30:32 PM
#428:


You just fail to see the parallels and apply them to modern times. You no longer have to invade countries and take them over to get countries to capitulate.
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EmanResuymsSeug
09/19/17 2:31:02 PM
#429:


Corrik posted...
You just fail to see the parallels and apply them to modern times. You no longer have to invade countries and take them over to get countries to capitulate.

what
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trdl23
09/19/17 2:33:57 PM
#430:


BowserCuffs posted...
I'm having a difficult time seeing how anything anybody in this thread is doing is anything like what the Right is doing to cannibalize itself.

It seems like we're calling two completely different scenarios identical.

"At the end of the day, Republicans fall in line; Democrats fall apart."
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 2:34:17 PM
#431:


He's saying Trump just needs to challenge Kim to a dance contest
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Corrik
09/19/17 2:36:47 PM
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 2:37:26 PM
#433:


Corrik posted...
You just fail to see the parallels and apply them to modern times. You no longer have to invade countries and take them over to get countries to capitulate.

You truly are an imbecile of which there are limited comparisons.
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Corrik
09/19/17 2:37:55 PM
#434:


Peace___Frog posted...
Corrik posted...
You just fail to see the parallels and apply them to modern times. You no longer have to invade countries and take them over to get countries to capitulate.

You truly are an imbecile of which there are limited comparisons.

Sure. Keep living in your fantasy.
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gmun-kun
09/19/17 2:38:06 PM
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Kenri
09/19/17 2:45:14 PM
#436:


they should be forced to warn parents in advance when reading about cisgender people too
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scarletspeed7
09/19/17 2:47:51 PM
#437:


Probably should warn parents when the cafeteria is serving chicken nuggets too.
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 2:49:53 PM
#438:


trdl23 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
I'm having a difficult time seeing how anything anybody in this thread is doing is anything like what the Right is doing to cannibalize itself.

It seems like we're calling two completely different scenarios identical.

"At the end of the day, Republicans fall in line; Democrats fall apart."



The difference is that, ideally, left-leaning people are mature enough to be able to criticize each other and still work together in the end against a common enemy agenda. Democrats and those farther left may disagree on HOW socialist the country needs to be, but we all agree that regulations and some level of wealth redistribution is good.

We just squabble over whether incrementalism is the best way.

Granted that didn't pan out so well in 2016. But I can take some solace in the knowledge that even if Colbert gets dragged through the mud for one (perceived) misstep, he's not suddenly going to turn around and actually campaign Trump 2020. He's not Tomi Lahren.
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 2:50:00 PM
#439:


if we're going to trust military men who actually know things instead of a raving clown acting as president, well...

https://twitter.com/Kyle_Feldscher/status/910200900341387264

John Kelly apparently went through some sort of existential crisis during Trump's UN speech. https://t.co/v0JUz21klN

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Jakyl25
09/19/17 2:51:09 PM
#440:


And I hope "Fuck Bernie Bros" goes without saying
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 2:54:03 PM
#441:


Peace___Frog posted...
if we're going to trust military men who actually know things instead of a raving clown acting as president, well...

https://twitter.com/Kyle_Feldscher/status/910200900341387264

John Kelly apparently went through some sort of existential crisis during Trump's UN speech. https://t.co/v0JUz21klN


Love it
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Corrik
09/19/17 2:58:17 PM
#442:


gmun-kun posted...
Corrik posted...
http://www.wtae.com/article/parents-angry-after-book-about-transgender-girl-read-to-kindergarten-class/12272685

those parents are pretty fucked up

People are taking their children out of school over it and the school is taken a hammering on this particular facebook news article (local pittsburgh news post).

I agree that has zero place anywhere in schooling. And I also believe there is absolutely no way a kindergartner should be having decisions made about their gender.

Why do the parents have to be fucked up because they do not want their 5 year old exposed to that unnatural lifestyle at such a young age?

You can be of the opinion that they have the right to make such a decision on their gender, but is an opinion that such a decision should not have to affect those parents children also be a viable opinion?

That parent had the right to have their child have a gender transformation prior to being 5 years old but another parent cannot have the right to not have their five year old to not be exposed to that?

Seems like an unweighted balancing of fairness there.
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Suprak the Stud
09/19/17 2:59:19 PM
#443:


Peace___Frog posted...
if we're going to trust military men who actually know things instead of a raving clown acting as president, well...

https://twitter.com/Kyle_Feldscher/status/910200900341387264

John Kelly apparently went through some sort of existential crisis during Trump's UN speech. https://t.co/v0JUz21klN


John Kelly is one of the other people in this administration I respect and trust.

But whenever I see him it looks like he is a guy that has been tasked with keeping these plates spinning on top of these poles, and Trump is peering around the corner with another one to put in front of him.
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:00:14 PM
#444:


Corrik posted...
that unnatural lifestyle

And this is why exposure to different types of people is important. Children are impressionable. If we teach them that it's ok to be different and to treat others humanely, then it's a good thing in my book.
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Not_an_Owl
09/19/17 3:00:32 PM
#445:


Corrik posted...
stuff

Trans people exist. Why does this bother you so much?
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 3:02:29 PM
#446:


LOL "unnatural lifestyle"
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:03:05 PM
#447:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Corrik posted...
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Trans people exist. Why does this bother you so much?

Trans people existing and forcing it into a 5 year olds schooling are two completely different things.
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:03:44 PM
#448:


Jakyl25 posted...
LOL "unnatural lifestyle"

It is literally by definition an unnatural lifestyle.

Does it happen naturally? Nope. Okay then. Common sense.
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GuessMyUserName
09/19/17 3:03:51 PM
#449:


trans people existing doesn't affect you god fucking damn
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MoogleKupo141
09/19/17 3:05:01 PM
#450:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
LOL "unnatural lifestyle"

It is literally by definition an unnatural lifestyle.

Does it happen naturally? Nope. Okay then. Common sense.


how else do you think gender dysphoria is happening if not naturally?
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scarletspeed7
09/19/17 3:05:13 PM
#451:


I mean, humanity is a part of nature, so if humanity develops a system of gender change, it's natural.
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:05:48 PM
#452:


Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?
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GuessMyUserName
09/19/17 3:05:51 PM
#453:


Corrik posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
Corrik posted...
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Trans people exist. Why does this bother you so much?

Trans people existing and forcing it into a 5 year olds schooling are two completely different things.

nobody is forcing your child to be trans god fucking damn

do you take the same issue with us "forcing" math onto your kids? "forcing" geography or any other form of education?
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 3:05:53 PM
#454:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
LOL "unnatural lifestyle"

It is literally by definition an unnatural lifestyle.

Does it happen naturally? Nope. Okay then. Common sense.


LOL
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Mr Lasastryke
09/19/17 3:05:59 PM
#455:


yeah what's next, are they going to force gay people into a 5 year old's schooling?
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:06:22 PM
#456:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
LOL "unnatural lifestyle"

It is literally by definition an unnatural lifestyle.

Does it happen naturally? Nope. Okay then. Common sense.

Wait until corrik learns about fish that change their genders on the reg
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 3:06:49 PM
#457:


Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.
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HashtagSEP
09/19/17 3:08:01 PM
#458:


Jakyl25 posted...
trdl23 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
I'm having a difficult time seeing how anything anybody in this thread is doing is anything like what the Right is doing to cannibalize itself.

It seems like we're calling two completely different scenarios identical.

"At the end of the day, Republicans fall in line; Democrats fall apart."



The difference is that, ideally, left-leaning people are mature enough to be able to criticize each other and still work together in the end against a common enemy agenda. Democrats and those farther left may disagree on HOW socialist the country needs to be, but we all agree that regulations and some level of wealth redistribution is good.

We just squabble over whether incrementalism is the best way.

Granted that didn't pan out so well in 2016. But I can take some solace in the knowledge that even if Colbert gets dragged through the mud for one (perceived) misstep, he's not suddenly going to turn around and actually campaign Trump 2020. He's not Tomi Lahren.


I think this is true. I disagree with Jakyl and the other's stance on what we were discussing, but I'm not gonna suddenly stop disagreeing with the overarching sentiment/views/etc.
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:08:08 PM
#459:


scarletspeed7 posted...
I mean, humanity is a part of nature, so if humanity develops a system of gender change, it's natural.

Incorrect.

Until dna changes from xx to xy and dicks fall off and grow vaginas that can bear children on their own then it is unnatural.

No more unnatural than getting botox or a chin lift.

Natural is by defintion something that occurs in nature.
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:08:39 PM
#460:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.
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Suprak the Stud
09/19/17 3:09:13 PM
#461:


Jakyl25 posted...

The difference is that, ideally, left-leaning people are mature enough to be able to criticize each other and still work together in the end against a common enemy agenda. Democrats and those farther left may disagree on HOW socialist the country needs to be, but we all agree that regulations and some level of wealth redistribution is good.

We just squabble over whether incrementalism is the best way.


The twitter post quoted earlier isn't that at all. There is a difference between criticizing ideas and criticizing them as people.

I get this impression that some in the left think people can't just be wrong any more. They're either dumb, if you're feeling charitable, or they're evil, if you're not.

(That sentiment is definitely true on the right as well, it just annoys me more coming from the left because we could win more elections if we weren't spending so much time ousting the heretics.)
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GuessMyUserName
09/19/17 3:09:17 PM
#462:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

... no? nobody is telling us to stop teaching kids about straight people

make some fucking sense please
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:09:48 PM
#463:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

Your understanding of words would make the Trump administration proud.
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Mr Lasastryke
09/19/17 3:10:00 PM
#464:


Corrik posted...
You are being bigoted against straight parents.


your argument is literally "allowing blacks on the bus is bigoted against racist people."
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:10:32 PM
#465:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

... no? nobody is telling us to stop teaching kids about straight people

make some fucking sense please

You are saying they do not have the right for their children to not learn about something clearly not in the curriculum.
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:10:44 PM
#466:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

Again, we're saying that trans people have the right to exist.
You're arguing that they don't.

Only one of these positions is bigoted in any manner.
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:11:05 PM
#467:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
You are being bigoted against straight parents.


your argument is literally "allowing blacks on the bus is bigoted against racist people."

No idea what that means but nice try on being clever. Sure that was a real hoot.
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:11:14 PM
#468:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
You are being bigoted against straight parents.


your argument is literally "allowing blacks on the bus is bigoted against racist people."

Lasa said it far better than i could.

Edit - go figure the analogy is over floorik's head.
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Suprak the Stud
09/19/17 3:11:25 PM
#469:


Well I posted at a fun time it looks like.
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MoogleKupo141
09/19/17 3:12:12 PM
#470:


Corrik posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

... no? nobody is telling us to stop teaching kids about straight people

make some fucking sense please

You are saying they do not have the right for their children to not learn about something clearly not in the curriculum.


how is it clearly not in the curriculum

if it's being taught doesn't that make it part of the curriculum?

also that has nothing to do with being straight parents. Straight parents can be ok with the book being taught too.
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HaRRicH
09/19/17 3:12:22 PM
#471:


I can't tell if you are for or against teachers with cosmetic surgery.
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GuessMyUserName
09/19/17 3:12:50 PM
#472:


Corrik posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Board 8 again can't just accept any opinion but their own and just looks to try and shape anyone as a bigot who disagrees.

Again. What does existing have to do with force feeding it into a 5 year olds schooling?


You are literally being bigoted against trans people though.

You are being bigoted against straight parents.

This is how stupid your argument is.

... no? nobody is telling us to stop teaching kids about straight people

make some fucking sense please

You are saying they do not have the right for their children to not learn about something clearly not in the curriculum.

because they have no god damn reason not to LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE THAT EXIST IN THE WORLD
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 3:13:08 PM
#473:


Corrik posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
I mean, humanity is a part of nature, so if humanity develops a system of gender change, it's natural.

Incorrect.

Until dna changes from xx to xy and dicks fall off and grow vaginas that can bear children on their own then it is unnatural.

No more unnatural than getting botox or a chin lift.

Natural is by defintion something that occurs in nature.


You really, REALLY don't understand what it means to be transgender.

You needed this book at age 5
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Corrik
09/19/17 3:13:54 PM
#474:


Peace___Frog posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
You are being bigoted against straight parents.


your argument is literally "allowing blacks on the bus is bigoted against racist people."

Lasa said it far better than i could.

Of course because you are liberal and your arguments all are tantamount to bigotry and racism. Who couldn't have seen racism being brought up from a mile away?

You have no other way to argue anything. Your arguments are always just "lol I am morally superior in my mind so you are wrong".

In actuality, you aren't superior to anything. It is just created to feed your own righteousness and nothing else.
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Peace___Frog
09/19/17 3:14:15 PM
#475:


Jakyl25 posted...
You really, REALLY don't understand what it means to be transgender.

You needed this book at age 5

Qft
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 3:14:30 PM
#476:


Like, dude, this may shock and amaze you, but people have been transgender since gender began to exist as a concept
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