Poll of the Day > Help me not be angry that my friend on SSI just got a brand new car.

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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 3:21:47 PM
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He lives with his parents and has zero living expenses. He's basically ICOYAR but not an asshole. And he has autism, but he's high functioning enough to hold a sort-of part-time job taking pictures at high school sporting events. He gets SSI and apparently just bought a 2017 car with it. It kinda pisses me off.
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UT1999
09/02/17 3:23:40 PM
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i get ssi what kind of car was it?
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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 3:24:00 PM
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2017 Ford Focus
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UT1999
09/02/17 3:26:22 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
2017 Ford Focus

at least it wasn't a mustang or something or you might have completely lost it
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Kyuubi4269
09/02/17 3:30:29 PM
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If you are both disabled (according to the SSA definition) and can demonstrate your financial need (insufficient or no income and less than $2,000 in assets), you may qualify for SSI.


A 2017 car is a $2,000+ asset.
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chaosbowser
09/02/17 3:33:01 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
2017 Ford Focus


He got new pretty cheap car big whoop
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NameNotKnown
09/02/17 5:05:08 PM
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Focus RS.
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helIy
09/02/17 5:05:56 PM
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fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza
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DrBoneCrusher
09/02/17 5:11:00 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
If you are both disabled (according to the SSA definition) and can demonstrate your financial need (insufficient or no income and less than $2,000 in assets), you may qualify for SSI.


A 2017 car is a $2,000+ asset.

He's probably leasing the car so the payments shouldn't be that bad but he doesn't really own the car.
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Kyuubi4269
09/02/17 5:13:43 PM
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DrBoneCrusher posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
If you are both disabled (according to the SSA definition) and can demonstrate your financial need (insufficient or no income and less than $2,000 in assets), you may qualify for SSI.


A 2017 car is a $2,000+ asset.

He's probably leasing the car so the payments shouldn't be that bad but he doesn't really own the car.

Then he didn't "get" a car and TC has no place bitching.
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mastermix3000
09/02/17 5:14:01 PM
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Why are you angry? Worry about your own life
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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 5:32:36 PM
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Nope, he bought it.
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UT1999
09/02/17 5:34:15 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Nope, he bought it.

report him to the ssi people then dude
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wolfy42
09/02/17 5:41:51 PM
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I'm not an SSI expert but I know some things can't be counted as an asset, and I think it might include your home and 1 car or something. That is at least true if you need the car for medical reasons or possibly for work etc.

Someone I'm sure knows alot more about that then me, but it's possible he could have a car and still qualify (as long as he only has one).
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SmokeMassTree
09/02/17 5:44:40 PM
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Shouldn't you be happy for your friend?

You sound like a garbage friend
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Kyuubi4269
09/02/17 5:54:34 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
If you are both disabled (according to the SSA definition) and can demonstrate your financial need (insufficient or no income and less than $2,000 in assets), you may qualify for SSI.


A 2017 car is a $2,000+ asset.


Certain things don't count against that $2000 limit. Including a single car, regardless of its value.

You need more than $2k liquid assets to buy a car.
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wolfy42
09/02/17 5:58:52 PM
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See I was like totally right. I rock.
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OhhhJa
09/02/17 6:12:39 PM
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You just have to go through life without letting that stuff annoy you. There's always gonna be people getting nice shit they didn't earn and then acting like they earned it or are entitled to it. I know several people like this. It's still better, at least to me, having to earn stuff yourself though. I would never feel a sense of accomplishment otherwise
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Lightning Bolt
09/02/17 6:29:37 PM
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I mean if he's autistic maybe he's really into cars and he saved up to get the one he wanted.
There's a lot of possible nuances to these things. Honestly, I just try not to judge people until I have the whole story, and "autism + nice car" is hardly detailed.
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wwinterj25
09/02/17 6:52:57 PM
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Good for him! Sucks you're jealous though.
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MICHALECOLE
09/02/17 7:07:48 PM
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Go buy a better car to show that bitch up
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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 7:18:27 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Go buy a better car to show that bitch up

But I've paid off my car. I don't want a car payment again.
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MICHALECOLE
09/02/17 7:19:51 PM
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Then quit crying
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helIy
09/02/17 7:20:24 PM
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helIy posted...
fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza

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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 7:22:34 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Then quit crying

You're right. I'll get a fucking Ferrari.

helIy posted...
helIy posted...
fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza

I'm going to text him "buy helly a pizza" with no context and then refuse to explain what I mean. Will post results.
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Zeus
09/02/17 7:23:19 PM
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helIy posted...
helIy posted...
fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza

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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 7:24:55 PM
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Zeus posted...
helIy posted...
helIy posted...
fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza

Get in line, Zeus.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/02/17 7:26:42 PM
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I think I confused him. I hope he doesn't actually order a pizza.
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helIy
09/02/17 7:29:03 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
MICHALECOLE posted...
Then quit crying

You're right. I'll get a fucking Ferrari.

helIy posted...
helIy posted...
fuck, tell him to buy me a pizza

I'm going to text him "buy helly a pizza" with no context and then refuse to explain what I mean. Will post results.

lmao
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Golden Road
09/02/17 7:50:34 PM
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A lot of people need cars. Not everyone lives in an area with good public transportation.
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helIy
09/03/17 1:02:04 AM
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well what happened
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BeerOnTap
09/03/17 1:10:44 AM
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As a staunch Libertarian, social security should not exist.
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MICHALECOLE
09/03/17 2:00:28 AM
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As a person with a heart, social security should exist
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FatalAccident
09/03/17 3:09:52 AM
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TC is just jealous, no question. Nothing to see here.

Maybe get yourself a car you won't feel so bad
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MICHALECOLE
09/03/17 3:10:44 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
TC is just jealous, no question. Nothing to see here.

Maybe get yourself a car you won't feel so bad

No he said he has a car but can't accept his disabled friend has a better one
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FatalAccident
09/03/17 3:12:38 AM
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ooh haha

sounds like a bad friend to me though
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MICHALECOLE
09/03/17 3:21:59 AM
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Zangulus posted...
MICHALECOLE posted...
FatalAccident posted...
TC is just jealous, no question. Nothing to see here.

Maybe get yourself a car you won't feel so bad

No he said he has a car but can't accept his disabled friend has a better one


I'm pretty sure a 1972 Pinto is a better car than a 2017 Fiesta.

I know this is supposed to be an exaggeration, but car snobs are annoying
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SkynyrdRocker
09/03/17 9:01:47 AM
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Why do you guys keep calling it a Fiesta? I literally said it's a Focus in this topic.

And I'm jealous that he gets brand new car for free from the government, while I had to pay for mine.

helly, it was hugely disappointing. I said "buy helly a pizza," he said "pizza for what," I said "eating," and then he just talked about his car some more.
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Blightzkrieg
09/03/17 10:12:17 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
As a staunch Libertarian

Lmao
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BeerOnTap
09/03/17 11:24:37 AM
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Zangulus posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
As a staunch Libertarian, social security should not exist.


Can't make your own way in the world? Well, fuck you. Go to hell dickweed.


And see, this right here really illustrates the main problem with the way our society has been conditioned to become unable to imagine a world without government involvement in so many aspects of our lives. Such a binary way of thinking, that because I said a particular government program shouldn't exist, that I must also have the opinion that people shouldn't be helped (I don't).

What if I told you that you can believe in helping people, but also hold the opinion that that help should not come by way of government stealing other people's money by force and redistributing it? Helping people in need is the role of private charities, churches, and communities. And if people were allowed to keep more of their hard-earned money (and that includes large corporations) then they could afford to be incredibly more charitable.

A perfect example of this is the food industry. When compared to government programs such as food stamps, wic, etc... private charities, food banks, and corporations provide more for people in need, at well over a 3 to 1 ratio. This is for a number of reasons, but mainly because the food industry is, for the most part, pretty unregulated. And also because, surprise surprise, the government programs designed to provide said services are wildly inefficient.

But hey, government should be blindly entrusted to take care of every aspects of our lives, right? I mean, after all, they're such great stewards of our hard earned money. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Hirokey123
09/03/17 11:36:06 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Why do you guys keep calling it a Fiesta? I literally said it's a Focus in this topic.

And I'm jealous that he gets brand new car for free from the government, while I had to pay for mine.

helly, it was hugely disappointing. I said "buy helly a pizza," he said "pizza for what," I said "eating," and then he just talked about his car some more.


And as pretty much said your jealousy is pathetic and based in a poor understanding on how this all works. Seriously I doubt you're actually this person's friend from the way you're talking you sound more like a disgruntled acquaintance. Jealousy is human we can't expect people not feel it, but if you're not a crappy person then you don't give into it and post something as absolutely pathetic as this. Keep your green-eyed monster under control.
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SkynyrdRocker
09/03/17 11:47:59 AM
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Hirokey123 posted...
And as pretty much said your jealousy is pathetic and based in a poor understanding on how this all works. Seriously I doubt you're actually this person's friend from the way you're talking you sound more like a disgruntled acquaintance. Jealousy is human we can't expect people not feel it, but if you're not a crappy person then you don't give into it and post something as absolutely pathetic as this. Keep your green-eyed monster under control.

A poor understanding? Why do people that don't work and have no bills deserve free cars?
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darkknight109
09/03/17 12:18:20 PM
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So, just to see if I have this straight, you're jealous of a high-functioning autist with limited job prospects who's stuck living at home with his parents?

Because that's kind of sad.

BeerOnTap posted...
Helping people in need is the role of private charities, churches, and communities

If they'd succeeded in fulfilling that role, government would never have needed to step in. The fact that they didn't kind of shoots a whole bunch of holes in this viewpoint.

BeerOnTap posted...
And if people were allowed to keep more of their hard-earned money (and that includes large corporations) then they could afford to be incredibly more charitable.

Again, history does not bear this out.

Prior to the 20th century, social security programs were rare-to-non-existent in most countries and their functions were handled by charitable organizations. And they were fucking terrible at it.
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