Current Events > Whoa the Zimmerman murder happened 5 and a half years ago

(+) Yeah! (+)

What the hell it felt like just last year

The Matrix is old enough to drive most places.
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"murder"

DuranOfForcena posted...

murder? did i cross into an alternate universe? is this the one where the Berenstein Bears are?

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And he's somewhere acting smug and laughing at the fact he got away with it

Trayvon beat down Zimmerman with his own gun. Zimms grabbed the gun away from Tray and shot him thus defending himself.

This was no murder bruh
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Axiom posted...

And he's somewhere acting smug and laughing at the fact he got away with it

Good.
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murdered for buying a bag of skittles smh
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I wish.

our justice system isn't as good as it is in the dimension that charged him with murder.
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Can't simmer the zimmer
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Dark_SilverX posted...

Trayvon beat down Zimmerman with his own gun. Zimms grabbed the gun away from Tray and shot him thus defending himself.

This was no murder bruh

how do you know this? were you there?

Tine flies after watching people get away with murder!
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Dark_SilverX posted...

Trayvon beat down Zimmerman with his own gun. Zimms grabbed the gun away from Tray and shot him thus defending himself.

This was no murder bruh

Nobody knows what happened except that an armed man confronted a 17 year old teen walking home because he was "suspicious" and the teenager wound up dead.

If Zimmerman wasn't a limp dick with a gun fetish who thought he was John Wayne this never would of happened.
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I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

If Zimmerman wasn't a limp dick with a gun fetish who thought he was John Wayne this never would of happened.

I lol'd. What a great description of him

Axiom posted...

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

If Zimmerman wasn't a limp dick with a gun fetish who thought he was John Wayne this never would of happened.

I lol'd. What a great description of him

Funny enough that description can fit 90% of gun related deaths in Murca
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I'm impressed that you're taking this position Zikten.
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Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense

Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Dark_SilverX posted...

Trayvon beat down Zimmerman with his own gun. Zimms grabbed the gun away from Tray and shot him thus defending himself.

This was no murder bruh

Nobody knows what happened except that an armed man confronted a 17 year old teen walking home because he was "suspicious" and the teenager wound up dead.

If Zimmerman wasn't a limp dick with a gun fetish who thought he was John Wayne this never would of happened.

Except eyewitness accounts and forensic evidence prove that, at no point, did Zimmerman 'confront' Martin. Instead, Zimmerman lost Martin, and Martin jumped him from behind after Zimmerman started back to his truck.

Martin's girlfriend even testified to this.

If Martin wasn't a limp-dick with a gangbanger fetish, this never would have happened.
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Zimmerman topics are the most formulaic topics this board has ever had. Every single topic manages to have the same posts nearly word for word. It's impressive.
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Spidey5 posted...

Zimmerman topics are the most formulaic topics this board has ever had. Every single topic manages to have the same posts nearly word for word. It's impressive.

Maybe Microsoft/Amazon/Apple use Zimmerman topics to fine-tune their chatbots
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s0nicfan posted...

Spidey5 posted...

Zimmerman topics are the most formulaic topics this board has ever had. Every single topic manages to have the same posts nearly word for word. It's impressive.

Maybe Microsoft/Amazon/Apple use Zimmerman topics to fine-tune their chatbots

Brb, challenging cleverbot to a Zimmerman argument.
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except martin asked Zimmerfuck what he wanted (as in: why the FUCK ate you following me in the night) and Zimmertwit replied "nothin'" before he had an excuse to MURDER a blackboy.
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The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense

Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.

Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun.
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Yet here you are, still obsessed with it.
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@UnfairRepresent

Darklit_Minuet posted...

The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense

Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.

Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense

Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.

Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun.

Following someone isn't an act of aggression. Smashing their head into the sidewalk is.
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I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.
Zimmerman is like the textbook example of what gun owners should not do
For example:
Trying to be a wannabe cop
Ignoring requests from 911 operators
Following individuals

Yeah Martin was a sketchy individual, but Zimmerman was the one who instigated the situation. Of course Martin shouldn't have started beating Zimmerman's head into the concrete since that goes far beyond self-defense, but the fact is that if Zimmerman hadn't wanted to play cops & robbers then Martin would have never died.
The fact that Zimmerman milked the situation and even ended up trying to auction off the gun shows the kind of shit individual he is.

KarmaMuffin posted...

I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.

IIRC what bothered people at the time of actual trial was less that Zimmerman was without fault and more that the media coverage overwhelmingly painted Zimmerman as this crazed supremacist that shot and killed an innocent child. I remember all the drama surrounding news sites using a years-old photo of Martin because everything on his social media was thuggish as shit. I think most people know at some point when they're being lied to, and they flocked to defend the guy they were being told was the "bad guy" in response to that.
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Like when NBC edited the phone call?

s0nicfan posted...

KarmaMuffin posted...

I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.

IIRC what bothered people at the time of actual trial was less that Zimmerman was without fault and more that the media coverage overwhelmingly painted Zimmerman as this crazed supremacist that shot and killed an innocent child. I remember all the drama surrounding news sites using a years-old photo of Martin because everything on his social media was thuggish as shit. I think most people know at some point when they're being lied to, and they flocked to defend the guy they were being told was the "bad guy" in response to that.

And the lies are being repeated to this very day.

Some of them in this thread.
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Tryhaptaward posted...

Like when NBC edited the phone call?

Omg, people STILL quote that like it was legit!
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KarmaMuffin posted...

I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.

Probably because people tried to use him as a tool to ban guns.

Yeah Martin was a sketchy individual, but Zimmerman was the one who instigated the situation.

Claiming walking down a public street is instigating attempted murder is nonsense.

By that logic Zimmerman's mother instigated the situation because she gave birth to Zimmerman.

That's not how cause and effect works. Trayvon following, ambushed and attacking Zimmerman instigated the situation. The fact people claim to believe otherwise is immensely disturbing.

You cannot attack and attempt to murder someone because they walked down a public street

This should be common sense 101. Small children should have no difficulty comprehending that, why do you struggle?
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s0nicfan posted...

KarmaMuffin posted...

I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.

IIRC what bothered people at the time of actual trial was less that Zimmerman was without fault and more that the media coverage overwhelmingly painted Zimmerman as this crazed supremacist that shot and killed an innocent child. I remember all the drama surrounding news sites using a years-old photo of Martin because everything on his social media was thuggish as shit. I think most people know at some point when they're being lied to, and they flocked to defend the guy they were being told was the "bad guy" in response to that.

No doubt. CNN's early reports of this incident were "White-Hispanic man shoots black child dead; not even arrested"

Once they got record ratings by lazily race baiting gullible suckers, it paved the way for the way they also exaggerated Mike Brown and Freddie Gray.

One of the best things that's come about from a Trump presidency is that CNN has been completely delegitimized. And it's 100% deserved.
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Following someone can be threatening, especially at night. Zimmerman is not innocent in this.

He wrongly profiled the kid and that kid ended up dead.

Tryhaptaward posted...

Like when NBC edited the phone call?

OR when they claimed Zimmerman got off due to Stand Your Ground laws. Something millions still believe.

Or when they claimed that "Zimmerman only won because they tried to pin murder on him" which millions still believe.

The entire thing was a media shit-show that made a lot of people collectively stupider, more violent and put an innocent man into millions of dollars of debt, ruining his life and marriage.

It's absurd on every level. And the saddest part is the people don't want the truth. You will never hear someone say "Oh I didn't realize Stand Your Ground was irrelevant to the case, I was wrong. I need to reevaluate the case and my views" you get "Ugh fat dumb murderer racist conservative nazi poop!" degeneration when faced with reality.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

So I can start freely killing white teenage posers? which is about 50% of them.

Talking thug shit is not doing thug shit...ever heard of this thing called rap music?

So are you just playing dumb, or do you not actually understand that the legitimacy of whether Zimmerman "felt threatened" is highly dependent on the look and attitude of the person threatening him?
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Ammonitida posted...

Following someone can be threatening, especially at night. Zimmerman is not innocent in this.

What crime did he commit?

Lost_All_Senses posted...

So I can start freely killing white teenage posers?

No you can't.
Just like Trayvon can't freely kill fat Hispanic losers.

Why can you not connect 2 and 2 here?
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Ammonitida posted...

Following someone can be threatening, especially at night. Zimmerman is not innocent in this.

He wrongly profiled the kid and that kid ended up dead.

That kid ended up dead because he assaulted an armed man with no physical provocation whatsoever.

I doubt any state allows 'he was following me!' as a viable defense for battery.
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s0nicfan posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

So I can start freely killing white teenage posers? which is about 50% of them.

Talking thug shit is not doing thug shit...ever heard of this thing called rap music?

So are you just playing dumb, or do you not actually understand that the legitimacy of whether Zimmerman "felt threatened" is highly dependent on the look and attitude of the person threatening him?

Yes, Im saying people shouldn't get killed over what they look like....wtf. And stop acting like you were there and not just putting your own twist on what "attitude" was considered in this scenario
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The Admiral posted...

TommyG663513 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Zikten posted...

I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense

This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense

Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.

Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun.

Following someone isn't an act of aggression. Smashing their head into the sidewalk is.

No one argued or argues the latter, though there is only hearsay on what happened in between Zimmermann following him and Trayvon ending up dead. Regardless, it is fallacious to suggest that following someone is not threatening, another way of saying aggressive.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

KarmaMuffin posted...

I don't get why people who love guns jumped all over themselves to defend Zimmerman.

Probably because people tried to use him as a tool to ban guns.

Yeah Martin was a sketchy individual, but Zimmerman was the one who instigated the situation.

Claiming walking down a public street is instigating attempted murder is nonsense.

By that logic Zimmerman's mother instigated the situation because she gave birth to Zimmerman.

That's not how cause and effect works. Trayvon following, ambushed and attacking Zimmerman instigated the situation. The fact claim to believe otherwise is immensely disturbing.

You cannot attack and attempt to murder someone because they walked down a public street

This should be common sense 101. Small children should have no difficulty comprehending that, why do you struggle?

Zimmerman provoked the whole thing. He followed/stalked him after wrongly profiling him as a burglar.

We still don't know who struck first but given Zimmerman's demeanor at the time, I have no trouble believing that he attempted top grab the "criminal" only to end up getting his ass kicked.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Small children should have no difficulty comprehending that, why do you struggle?

Because you're ignoring facts that go against your beliefs.
Zimmerman was told to not follow him. Zimmerman had a history of issues involving violence with his wife. Zimmerman failed at becoming a cop.
If Zimmerman hadn't declared himself as the ever watchful protector of the neighborhood and decided that Martin was suspicious, there would have been no deaths.

The fact that you can't seem to grasp that Martin's death only happened because Zimmerman fancied himself a hero shows how much you struggle with simple logic.

darkjedilink posted...

I doubt any state allows 'he was following me!' as a viable defense for battery.

To put the cherry on that, even if we pretend walking down a public street was a viable defense of attempted murder. IT Still doesn't hold up as Trayvon got away from Zimmerman, got home, then turned round and went back after Zimmerman, ambushing him and attacking him

"He was following me." is actually a defense for Zimmerman. Because Trayvon got away, turned around and went after Zimmy.

It's just a bizarre claim on every level.

It makes no sense legally or logically, and if we accept it anyway, it destroys Trayvon....
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

So I can start freely killing white teenage posers? which is about 50% of them.

Talking thug shit is not doing thug shit...ever heard of this thing called rap music?

So are you just playing dumb, or do you not actually understand that the legitimacy of whether Zimmerman "felt threatened" is highly dependent on the look and attitude of the person threatening him?

Yes, Im saying people shouldn't get killed over what they look like....wtf. And stop acting like you were there and not just putting your own twist on what "attitude" was considered in this scenario

You realize the "you weren't there" argument also completely invalidates your ability to argue that Zimmerman was unjustified, right?
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Ammonitida posted...

Zimmerman provoked the whole thing. He followed/stalked him after wrongly profiling him as a burglar.

Factually he didn't stalk him and walking down a public street is not a crime.

We still don't know who struck first

Yes we do. Beyond any reasonable doubt

but given Zimmerman's demeanor at the time, I have no trouble believing that he attempted top grab the "criminal" only to end up getting his ass kicked.

That contradicts all evidence, logic and accounts and is supported by nothing. It's on par with saying Aliens teleported Zimmerman to their space-ship, beat him up, then teleported him back with an erased memory.

Well you can't prove it's not true! Therefore what actually do know doesn't matter.
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