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Topic	Whoa the Zimmerman murder happened 5 and a half years ago
Kineth 08/28/17 4:23:39 PM #46:	The Admiral posted... TommyG663513 posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... The Admiral posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Zikten posted... I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case. Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun. Following someone isn't an act of aggression. Smashing their head into the sidewalk is. No one argued or argues the latter, though there is only hearsay on what happened in between Zimmermann following him and Trayvon ending up dead. Regardless, it is fallacious to suggest that following someone is not threatening, another way of saying aggressive. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:885607534] in Whoa the Z... [t:75717309]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, even if Trayvon struck first, i can kinda sympathize with him. a strange guy was following him in the night it was preemptive self defense </quote> This. But of course only the winner can claim self defense</quote> Because there is no such thing as pre-emptive self-defense. Trayvon was the aggressor and smashed Zimmerman's head into the pavement because he wanted to seem "hard" and not back down after talking to his girlfriend. That took away any claim he had as the victim in this case.</quote> Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed a kid with a gun.</quote></quote> Following someone isn't an act of aggression. Smashing their head into the sidewalk is.</quote> No one argued or argues the latter, though there is only hearsay on what happened in between Zimmermann following him and Trayvon ending up dead. Regardless, it is fallacious to suggest that following someone is not threatening, another way of saying aggressive. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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