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darkjedilink
08/30/17 6:05:41 PM
#153:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
If you trip on your feet after throwing a punch and do not catch yourself with your already outstretched arm, the head wound will always be on the forehead, not the back of the head unless he had cat-like reflexes to spin himself around 180 degrees while falling and then threw a DawkinsNumber4 fit right after hitting the ground (not plausible).

Inertia. He tried to sucker punch hard enough that he turned himself around

Not plausible, considering the physical evidence.
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Darklit_Minuet
08/30/17 6:06:56 PM
#154:


darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
If you trip on your feet after throwing a punch and do not catch yourself with your already outstretched arm, the head wound will always be on the forehead, not the back of the head unless he had cat-like reflexes to spin himself around 180 degrees while falling and then threw a DawkinsNumber4 fit right after hitting the ground (not plausible).

Inertia. He tried to sucker punch hard enough that he turned himself around

Not plausible, considering the physical evidence.

The physical evidence was planted by Zimmerman after the kill
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Paragon21XX
08/30/17 6:31:54 PM
#155:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
If you trip on your feet after throwing a punch and do not catch yourself with your already outstretched arm, the head wound will always be on the forehead, not the back of the head unless he had cat-like reflexes to spin himself around 180 degrees while falling and then threw a DawkinsNumber4 fit right after hitting the ground (not plausible).

Inertia. He tried to sucker punch hard enough that he turned himself around

He was so heavy and wide (borderline obese) that his inertia would only likely manage a quarter-turn as inertia depends on the radius and weight of the rotating object to determine rotational velocity and that's only if he can punch like a pro boxer (using hips to build up force rather than just shoulder, chest, and arms). Otherwise, he would still fall largely straight forward with little rotation.
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anth0ny
08/30/17 6:34:44 PM
#156:


A 17 year old kid is dead because of a situation caused by a racist man with a gun.

It's pretty hard concept for you low level to wrap your head around, i know.
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Kaiganeer
08/30/17 6:40:24 PM
#157:


scrolled through the topic solely for the "can't _____ the _____" posts

eh
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darkjedilink
08/30/17 7:00:40 PM
#158:


anth0ny posted...
A 17 year old kid is dead because of a situation caused by a racist man with a gun.

It's pretty hard concept for you low level to wrap your head around, i know.

Literally scientifically proven to be untrue. Backed up by Attorney General Eric Holder's FBI, to boot.
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MagusKingOfZeal
08/30/17 7:03:02 PM
#159:


Zimmerman defended himself from a violent hoodlum
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Mist_Turnips
08/30/17 7:04:37 PM
#160:


anth0ny posted...
A 17 year old kid is dead because of a situation caused by a racist man with a gun.

It's pretty hard concept for you low level to wrap your head around, i know.

I love a happy ending.
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anth0ny
08/30/17 7:21:42 PM
#161:


a user said scientifically proven... that's fuckingadorable-

After a thorough and independent investigation into the facts surrounding the shooting, federal investigators determined that there is insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a violation of these statutes. Accordingly, the investigation into this incident has been closed. This decision is limited strictly to the department’s inability to meet the high legal standard required to prosecute the case under the federal civil rights statutes; it does not reflect an assessment of any other aspect of the shooting.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-officials-close-investigation-death-trayvon-martin

Like I said, it may be asking too much for some monkeys to wrap their heads around that Zimmertwit was the cause of all of a teenager's death.

A teenager bought skittles and arizona tea at night and died fir it.
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HolierThanMao
08/31/17 1:41:39 AM
#162:


anth0ny posted...
A teenager bought skittles and arizona tea at night and died fir it.

a young man with a criminal record bought everyday items with the intention of getting high and was shot late at night for attacking a righteous family man that was carrying a gun
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OleBillyBoy225
08/31/17 1:45:45 AM
#163:


I wouldn't call it a murder.
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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 5:39:14 AM
#164:


anth0ny posted...
A 17 year old kid is dead because of a situation caused by a racist man with a gun.

It's pretty hard concept for you low level to wrap your head around, i know.

Because that's not how cause and effect works.

By this logic the situation was "caused by" Trayvon and Zimmerman's grandparents having sex.

The events that caused the two people to be in that location are not the events that caused Trayvon to try to murder someone.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 7:02:58 AM
#165:


anth0ny posted...
a user said scientifically proven... that's fuckingadorable-

After a thorough and independent investigation into the facts surrounding the shooting, federal investigators determined that there is insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt a violation of these statutes. Accordingly, the investigation into this incident has been closed. This decision is limited strictly to the department’s inability to meet the high legal standard required to prosecute the case under the federal civil rights statutes; it does not reflect an assessment of any other aspect of the shooting.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-officials-close-investigation-death-trayvon-martin

Like I said, it may be asking too much for some monkeys to wrap their heads around that Zimmertwit was the cause of all of a teenager's death.

A teenager bought skittles and arizona tea at night and died fir it.

So, no evidence that Zimmerman was wrong.
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showtimelakers
08/31/17 8:17:48 AM
#166:


Unfair sounding like a straight female....i like to see you "simply walk down a public street" with a piece on you near me esp. at night. Id whoop your little a ss. Fact is Zimmerman killed a 17 year old for getting his ass beat.
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Mist_Turnips
08/31/17 10:00:48 AM
#167:


showtimelakers posted...

Tray Trays are an endless source of hilarity.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 10:24:36 AM
#169:


showtimelakers posted...
Unfair sounding like a straight female....i like to see you "simply walk down a public street" with a piece on you near me esp. at night. Id whoop your little a ss. Fact is Zimmerman killed a 17 year old for getting his ass beat.

Lol, internet tough guy.

Probably gets winded walking up the stairs from his mom's basement for more Doritos and orange soda, but he'll whoop your little ass, fo sho.
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ultimate reaver
08/31/17 10:35:07 AM
#171:


HolierThanMao posted...
anth0ny posted...
A teenager bought skittles and arizona tea at night and died fir it.

a young man with a criminal record bought everyday items with the intention of getting high and was shot late at night for attacking a righteous family man that was carrying a gun


It's always bugged the shit out of me that people bring up Martin's meager criminal record of smoking weed (!!!!) and skipping school when Zimmerman's included assaulting a cop and getting sent to anger management, and a history of domestic violence.

One of the two seems a little more pertinent to the stupid "HE WAS NO ANGEL" storyline dumb people like to tout than the other
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KStateKing17
08/31/17 10:38:34 AM
#172:


I swear y'all got played by tc with that topic title. Did they even post again?
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MangaFan462
08/31/17 11:03:33 AM
#173:


Mist_Turnips posted...
anth0ny posted...
A 17 year old kid is dead because of a situation caused by a racist man with a gun.

It's pretty hard concept for you low level to wrap your head around, i know.

I love a happy ending.


Indeed

Also ironic that Tmart was the only one to use racial slurs.

Zimmerman had two African adopted siblings and helped an African homeless man who was being harassed by cops.
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gdaddy
08/31/17 11:04:10 AM
#174:


DoomtheGrav posted...
can't flim flam the zim zam

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Kamiccolohan
08/31/17 11:45:55 AM
#175:


ultimate reaver posted...
HolierThanMao posted...
anth0ny posted...
A teenager bought skittles and arizona tea at night and died fir it.

a young man with a criminal record bought everyday items with the intention of getting high and was shot late at night for attacking a righteous family man that was carrying a gun


It's always bugged the shit out of me that people bring up Martin's meager criminal record of smoking weed (!!!!) and skipping school when Zimmerman's included assaulting a cop and getting sent to anger management, and a history of domestic violence.

One of the two seems a little more pertinent to the stupid "HE WAS NO ANGEL" storyline dumb people like to tout than the other

You forgot Tray Tray's penchant for getting into fights... it was a habit of his...

He was also caught with jewelery that was stolen. His mother kicked him out for getting into fights.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 12:19:52 PM
#176:


regardless of what you feel about the verdict, dead people can't give their side of the story and it turns how Zimmerman really is just another Florida asshole. hopefully he's not still abusing that chick.

last I heard about him, he was selling murder memorabilia on eBay/Amazon or some shit.
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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 12:23:51 PM
#177:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
regardless of what you feel about the verdict, dead people can't give their side of the story

People who refuse to look at the evidence, refuse to listen to the court case and just go "Oh it's only one side." have no idea how basic logic or investigation works.

Do you really think the legal system is one guy says one thing, one guy says the other and a judge/jury pick their favorite?

No thats just how you operate. And its dangerous.

Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

It's such a lazy and childish thing to say to the extent that I refuse to believe anyone is truly stupid enough to actually believe it and instead merely use it as a handwave to excuse them not bothering to face reality and instead just believe what they WANT to be true.
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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 12:26:40 PM
#178:


showtimelakers posted...
Unfair sounding like a straight female....i like to see you "simply walk down a public street" with a piece on you near me esp. at night. Id whoop your little a ss.


Threatening to attempt to murder people for walking down a public street.

Sigless user logic.

This is who you're throwing your lot in with. You're esstentially joining a religion. Violent, fact-ignoring and choosing beliefs that please you while vilifying people who challenge your beliefs even if they are right and you are harmful.

That's word for word, religion. Trayvon/Zimmerman even have historically inaccurate shrines:

https://revolutionaryfrontlines.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/trayvon-martine-mural.jpg

Truly scary stuff
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DyingPancake
08/31/17 12:28:54 PM
#179:


showtimelakers posted...
Unfair sounding like a straight female....i like to see you "simply walk down a public street" with a piece on you near me esp. at night. Id whoop your little a ss. Fact is Zimmerman killed a 17 year old for getting his ass beat.



Trying to sound tough on the internet automatically means you wouldn't do shit in real life

Why don't you actually debate him instead of throwing out silly threats?

No one person has been able to provide a counter to his arguments based on facts
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Darklit_Minuet
08/31/17 1:03:09 PM
#180:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun
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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 1:39:01 PM
#181:


Darklit_Minuet posted...

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Shooting someone who is literally attempting to murder you is 101 self-defense and completely legal.

No one has denied that Zimmerman shot Trayvon. Implying his testimony would make the court aware that he was shot is the stupidest thing posted in this topic and both Admiral and PEgasus have posted in it so that says a lot
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 3:15:07 PM
#182:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.
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Darklit_Minuet
08/31/17 3:23:58 PM
#183:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Shooting someone who is literally attempting to murder you is 101 self-defense and completely legal.

Except he wasn't attempting to murder him

darkjedilink posted...
Literally zero proof of racism.

He has a history of calling cops on black people, which is equivalent to wanting them dead in America
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_Goggalor_
08/31/17 3:25:05 PM
#184:


Self defense you mean. Zimmerman was attacked.
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KStateKing17
08/31/17 3:26:18 PM
#185:


darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.
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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 3:26:38 PM
#186:


Darklit_Minuet posted...


Except he wasn't attempting to murder him


There is zero evidence to support this and a mountain of evidence showing the exact opposite
Darklit_Minuet posted...

He has a history of calling cops on black people, which is equivalent to wanting them dead in America

wut
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DevsBro
08/31/17 3:33:31 PM
#187:



Emma : No. The memory capacity -- not to mention the life span -- of the
average individual is extremely limited. On the other hand,
digital information lasts virtually forever... it doesn't
deteriorate.

Raiden : So...?

Emma : The alphabet... twenty-six letters, right? It could've been
thirty letters. What if the 4 deleted letters were controlled by
a program?

Raiden : Impossible.

Emma : It's not. In fact, something similar is already underway. Do you
know how many genes exist in an individual?

Raiden : About 30 to 40 thousand?

Emma : Right. That's what was announced at the turn of the century. But
there's actually 100 thousand, according to the original theory
advanced by the scientific community. Information regarding the
remaining 60 thousand was suppressed by the Patriots.

Raiden : No...?

Emma : Why? How would you know? Do you know what a gene looks like? Did
you count them yourself?

Raiden : There are research organizations...

Emma : Of course... and their reports have already been subtly altered.
They're even beginning to believe the doctored reports. GW is a
system that allows the Patriots to decide what will be recorded
in tomorrow's history.

Raiden : So what we're talking about is one huge censorship system for
deleting information which might be inconvenient to the Patriots?

Emma : Exactly

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DevsBro
08/31/17 3:33:43 PM
#188:


Colonel : But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is
accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never
fading, always accessible.

Rose : Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander...

Colonel : All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at
an alarming rate.

Rose : It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of
evolution.

Colonel : Raiden, you seem to think that our plan is one of censorship.

Raiden : Are you telling me it's not!?

Rose : You're being silly! What we propose to do is not to control
content, but to create context.

Raiden : Create context?

Colonel : The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards
the development of convenient half-truths. Just look at the
strange juxtapositions of morality around you.

Rose : Billions spent on new weapons in order to humanely murder other
humans.

Colonel : Rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of
their victims.

Rose : Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations
are made to protect endangered species. Everyone grows up being
told the same thing.

Colonel : "Be nice to other people."

Rose : "But beat out the competition!"

Colonel : "You're special." "Believe in yourself and you will succeed."

Rose : But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed...

Colonel : You exercise your right to "freedom" and this is the result. All
rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The
untested truths spun by different interests continue to churn and
accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value
systems.

Rose : Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid
of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking
whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society
at large.

Colonel : The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is
invalidated, but nobody is right.

Rose : Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is
being engulfed in "truth."

Colonel : And this is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a
whimper.

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UnfairRepresent
08/31/17 3:35:41 PM
#189:


When you have to draw on Japanese Video Game Plots to attack Zimmerman you've reached the bullshit singularity
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Darklit_Minuet
08/31/17 3:40:58 PM
#190:


UnfairRepresent posted...
There is zero evidence to support this and a mountain of evidence showing the exact opposite

Wrong

UnfairRepresent posted...
wut

Cops in America have a habit of killing people. Especially black people. In fact, just yesterday, a police officer went on record saying "we only kill black people". Therefore, calling the cops on black people is equivalent to wishing death on them. Stop being ignorant.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 3:50:20 PM
#191:


KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.

Except the FBI determined, after a 6-month investigation into EXACTLY that possibility, which was completed before he even went to trial, that profiling had nothing to do with it.
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DevsBro
08/31/17 3:54:46 PM
#192:


When you have to draw on Japanese Video Game Plots to attack Zimmerman you've reached the bulls*** singularity

It's a comment on the topic, actually.
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Kamiccolohan
08/31/17 4:03:07 PM
#193:


You realize the Patriots are basically the... nevermind...
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KStateKing17
08/31/17 5:02:14 PM
#194:


darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.

Except the FBI determined, after a 6-month investigation into EXACTLY that possibility, which was completed before he even went to trial, that profiling had nothing to do with it.

Wasn't the initial call due to him seeing an unknown dude walking around looking strange that also happened to fit the loose description of the invaders of his neighbors home?
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 5:03:55 PM
#195:


KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.

Except the FBI determined, after a 6-month investigation into EXACTLY that possibility, which was completed before he even went to trial, that profiling had nothing to do with it.

Wasn't the initial call due to him seeing an unknown dude walking around looking strange that also happened to fit the loose description of the invaders of his neighbors home?


yep. and dispatch told him to not pursue.

can't stop a cowboy, eh? one gun can make a coward feel like he's got balls.
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Kamiccolohan
08/31/17 5:05:49 PM
#196:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.

Except the FBI determined, after a 6-month investigation into EXACTLY that possibility, which was completed before he even went to trial, that profiling had nothing to do with it.

Wasn't the initial call due to him seeing an unknown dude walking around looking strange that also happened to fit the loose description of the invaders of his neighbors home?


yep. and dispatch told him to not pursue.

can't stop a cowboy, eh? one gun can make a coward feel like he's got balls.

and what did he do after he dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that?" What was his response, and what can we surmise from the audio of the call at that moment?

Let's use the facts of the case only please...
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 5:18:13 PM
#197:


he gave his number to dispatch, requested a call from the officer whenever they would arrive, and he said he'd wait for them.

what happened in the time between him hanging up and the police finally arriving?
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Mist_Turnips
08/31/17 6:02:15 PM
#198:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
he gave his number to dispatch, requested a call from the officer whenever they would arrive, and he said he'd wait for them.

what happened in the time between him hanging up and the police finally arriving?

A thug got put down.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 6:03:44 PM
#199:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Due to sheer amount of evidene we have Trayvon's testimony is near irrelevant at this point. It's hard to imagine literally anything he could have said (with any evidence backing it up) that would have shown Zimmerman to not be innocent, let alone be guilty.

"This racist fuck shot me"

Bam. The proof would be the bullet and the fingerprints on the gun

Literally zero proof of racism.

Profiling could be used for the initial reason Zimmerman felt the need to alert the police in the first place.

Except the FBI determined, after a 6-month investigation into EXACTLY that possibility, which was completed before he even went to trial, that profiling had nothing to do with it.

Wasn't the initial call due to him seeing an unknown dude walking around looking strange that also happened to fit the loose description of the invaders of his neighbors home?


yep. and dispatch told him to not pursue.

can't stop a cowboy, eh? one gun can make a coward feel like he's got balls.

Dispatch did NOT tell him that. That is a bald-faced fuckin' LIE.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 6:05:12 PM
#200:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
he gave his number to dispatch, requested a call from the officer whenever they would arrive, and he said he'd wait for them.

what happened in the time between him hanging up and the police finally arriving?

He pursued Martin, lost him, and gave up. After turning around to return to his truck, Martin assaulted him without provocation.
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Darklit_Minuet
08/31/17 6:08:09 PM
#201:


Kamiccolohan posted...
and what did he do after he dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that?" What was his response, and what can we surmise from the audio of the call at that moment?

He took his gun and used it to put a hole in Trayvon
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Kamiccolohan
08/31/17 6:21:31 PM
#202:


You're all wrong. As soon as the dispatcher said we don't need you to do that, Trump said okay, and stopped running. You can literally hear his breathing return to normal in the fucking audio, and the wind distorting the sound also stops.

What happened after that, who knows if Zimmerman continued following. We know though that he did stop running. What we do know also is that Trayvon did in fact reach his house, and then he turned back around to go after Zimmerman. This is what Trayvon's own friend, Rachel Jeantel, testified during the trial. She was on the phone with him up until the moment the fight started.
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