Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 121: A Tale Told By an Idiot, Full of Fire and Fury..

(+) Yeah! (+)

...Signifying Covfefe
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A Song of Fire and Fury
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Vince McMahon planning GREAT BALLS OF FIRE AND FURRIES next year.
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Goodness Gracious
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Trump on Twitter now boasting about approval ratings that have "rebounded to 45%."

How the mighty populist has fallen
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excuse you

did you forget that "almost 40%" (actually 36%) was "very good at this time"
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furry*
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Towards the end of the last topic it was asked what pretext was being given for reducing early voting sites in Democratic areas of Indiana (while also adding them in Republican ones)

The chairman of Marion County's GOP claims he's never gotten any message from the people in charge of the county that there's a desire to spend the money to do expand early voting.

despite the mayor of indianapolis saying he's for it

and democrats approving it multiple times only to be blocked each time by the sole GOP member on the election board (who has not replied to requests for comment on why)
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Power. Pure, raw, power.
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That's the text, not the pretext.
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xp1337 posted...

He is the president who wasn't promised, and his is the song of fury and fire.

FTFY.
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Incidentally, is there anything in the Constitution that would stop a state from bringing back the rule that you can only vote if you own land?
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dowolf posted...

xp1337 posted...

He is the president who wasn't promised, and his is the song of fury and fire.

FTFY.

i thought about using that line but got lazy

red sox 777 posted...

Incidentally, is there anything in the Constitution that would stop a state from bringing back the rule that you can only vote if you own land?

I don't believe so. The strongest challenge I can think of is the 24th amendment's prohibition to deny the vote based on a failure to pay any kind of tax.

Edit: To clarify, I mean I don't think so in theory. In practice you'd have to separate owning land from any and all taxes to pass such a challenge, I think. And it would fall apart still if they existed at the federal level.
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Tag
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/895970429734711298

Military solutions are now fully in place,locked and loaded,should North Korea act unwisely. Hopefully Kim Jong Un will find another path!

Sigh
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Nothing will happen. China had pledged to defend NK if they are attacked first and won't of NK attacks first. Australia has pledged to defend USA if NK attacks first.

Everything is hinged on USA attacking first which we will never do with that China vow.

So, this is a huge nothing burger. NK is going to skate to nukes and can't be touched due to China.
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xp1337 posted...

dowolf posted...

xp1337 posted...

He is the president who wasn't promised, and his is the song of fury and fire.

FTFY.

i thought about using that line but got lazy

red sox 777 posted...

Incidentally, is there anything in the Constitution that would stop a state from bringing back the rule that you can only vote if you own land?

I don't believe so. The strongest challenge I can think of is the 24th amendment's prohibition to deny the vote based on a failure to pay any kind of tax.

Edit: To clarify, I mean I don't think so in theory. In practice you'd have to separate owning land from any and all taxes to pass such a challenge, I think. And it would fall apart still if they existed at the federal level.

A federal land tax, that isn't apportioned among the states, is expressly prohibited by the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent. The decision holding Obamacare actually restated the ban on federal land taxes, too. So I guess states would just have to abolish property tax to be safe.
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Pretty sure that the 14th amendment would prevent them from denying people the right to vote if they don't own land.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Since this was (properly) applied to same sex marriage, I fail to see how it wouldn't be applied to voting as well.
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Since we're discussing hypotheticals, does owning an apartment satisfy owning land? It's a place you own, but at the same time you don't own the land the building is on.
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Ashethan posted...

Pretty sure that the 14th amendment would prevent them from denying people the right to vote if they don't own land.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Since this was (properly) applied to same sex marriage, I fail to see how it wouldn't be applied to voting as well.

Because precedent and law says that voting is not a privilege or immunity of US citizens, and courts basically never use the privileges and immunities clause anyway. As for the equal protection clause, non-landowners have never been recognized as a protected class.

You're right that they could probably shoehorn it in under equal protection if they wanted, but this Supreme Court might not choose to do so.
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charmander6000 posted...

Since we're discussing hypotheticals, does owning an apartment satisfy owning land? It's a place you own, but at the same time you don't own the land the building is on.

I think the answer is yes but I'm not sure. The old value test in England was that the property needed to be valuable enough to generate 40 shillings in rents per year. Not sure how much that is adjusted for inflation, but it would prevent someone from subdividing a piece of land into millions of tiny shares and giving each nonlandowner one so they could vote.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/346171-former-mueller-deputy-on-trump-government-is-going-to-kill-this-guy

Not my favorite choice of words for the point I think he's making (that Donald's getting caught), but this is pretty confident talk for an ongoing case.
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tbf you could quite possibly take that statement completely literally if he were actually trying to do the job well
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later on infowars

"deep state planning to assassinate the president"
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HaRRicH posted...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/346171-former-mueller-deputy-on-trump-government-is-going-to-kill-this-guy

Not my favorite choice of words for the point I think he's making (that Donald's getting caught), but this is pretty confident talk for an ongoing case.

I actually hate this line of attack. The fact that longstanding bureaucrats don't like you is not in and of itself evidence that you shouldn't be president. I feel like this is going to be used as ammunition by the deep-state conspirators, if it hasn't already (if any of our brave the_donald spelunkers want to confirm or refute that, by all means, please >_>).
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I mean these are the people that created propagated pizzagate. There's 0 chance they don't use this.
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dowolf posted...

HaRRicH posted...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/346171-former-mueller-deputy-on-trump-government-is-going-to-kill-this-guy

Not my favorite choice of words for the point I think he's making (that Donald's getting caught), but this is pretty confident talk for an ongoing case.

I actually hate this line of attack. The fact that longstanding bureaucrats don't like you is not in and of itself evidence that you shouldn't be president. I feel like this is going to be used as ammunition by the deep-state conspirators, if it hasn't already (if any of our brave the_donald spelunkers want to confirm or refute that, by all means, please >_>).

Not that it's a good plan or anything, but if they're at Langley/CIA, they're probably not bureaucrats, they're military and CIA.

Foggy Bottom and State (... these are actually the same thing, I thought) probably are, though.
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So I guess we're "locked and loaded" now
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dowolf posted...

HaRRicH posted...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/346171-former-mueller-deputy-on-trump-government-is-going-to-kill-this-guy

Not my favorite choice of words for the point I think he's making (that Donald's getting caught), but this is pretty confident talk for an ongoing case.

I actually hate this line of attack. The fact that longstanding bureaucrats don't like you is not in and of itself evidence that you shouldn't be president. I feel like this is going to be used as ammunition by the deep-state conspirators, if it hasn't already (if any of our brave the_donald spelunkers want to confirm or refute that, by all means, please >_>).

I think ulti and suprak are the only two who dabble there.
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dowolf posted...

I feel like this is going to be used as ammunition by the deep-state conspirators, if it hasn't already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nhs87aBbtw

the internet moves fast
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Speaking of the expelled diplomats

Think of how much it sucks to be one of them and have your president literally thank Putin for kicking you out (while at the same time attacking Congress for sanctioning Russia)

Utterly disrespectful
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dowolf posted...

HaRRicH posted...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/346171-former-mueller-deputy-on-trump-government-is-going-to-kill-this-guy

Not my favorite choice of words for the point I think he's making (that Donald's getting caught), but this is pretty confident talk for an ongoing case.

I actually hate this line of attack. The fact that longstanding bureaucrats don't like you is not in and of itself evidence that you shouldn't be president. I feel like this is going to be used as ammunition by the deep-state conspirators, if it hasn't already (if any of our brave the_donald spelunkers want to confirm or refute that, by all means, please >_>).

Literally the number two post at the moment!

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6t10ki/cnns_phil_mudd_calls_for_deep_state_to_kill_trump/
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man, and I thought I was joking with my infowars headline

how naive I was
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Some choice comments if people don't want to go see the crazy first hand:

Phil Mudd is ex-CIA, an ex-deputy director. This guy isn't just a tv person making things spicey, he has first hand knowledge, this is probably a serious threat against the president.

Exactly. That's what he says ..I was in govt and they are going to kill him. He gives credence and acts as he has inside knowledge. I'm so sick of this treasonous talk against our properly elected President!

CNN has gone from shitty FAKE NEWS to a Tabloid to an unhinged terrorist organization. In less than a year. What's the next move CNN? What's the next move?

If the CIA kills Trump, we make a pit stop in Atlanta on our way to D.C.

(Atlanta is where CNN is headquartered)

Trump better act on this shit or they will actually kill him. They feel like untouchable gods. Both, the deep state and its puppet arm called media.

Most of those have 200+ up votes and are the highest voted comments on the thread. The ones they are deleting (or getting BIGLY down voted) are ones saying he didn't actually mean kill and "we shouldn't feign outrage like the left". There is an entire thread badmouthing Ben Shapiro of all people for siding with liberals and pushing that line of thought.
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Frankly if the CIA was going to kill him I think we'd have already seen two or three failed attempts by now.
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Kenri posted...

Frankly if the CIA was going to kill him I think we'd have already seen two or three failed attempts by now.

Who says we haven't?
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Some choice comments if people don't want to go see the crazy first hand:

Phil Mudd is ex-CIA, an ex-deputy director. This guy isn't just a tv person making things spicey, he has first hand knowledge, this is probably a serious threat against the president.

Exactly. That's what he says ..I was in govt and they are going to kill him. He gives credence and acts as he has inside knowledge. I'm so sick of this treasonous talk against our properly elected President!

CNN has gone from shitty FAKE NEWS to a Tabloid to an unhinged terrorist organization. In less than a year. What's the next move CNN? What's the next move?

If the CIA kills Trump, we make a pit stop in Atlanta on our way to D.C.

(Atlanta is where CNN is headquartered)

Trump better act on this shit or they will actually kill him. They feel like untouchable gods. Both, the deep state and its puppet arm called media.

Most of those have 200+ up votes and are the highest voted comments on the thread. The ones they are deleting (or getting BIGLY down voted) are ones saying he didn't actually mean kill and "we shouldn't feign outrage like the left". There is an entire thread badmouthing Ben Shapiro of all people for siding with liberals and pushing that line of thought.

"YOU AREN'T SUFFICIENTLY OUTRAGED, DELETE!"
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Most of those have 200+ up votes and are the highest voted comments on the thread. The ones they are deleting (or getting BIGLY down voted) are ones saying he didn't actually mean kill and "we shouldn't feign outrage like the left".

Of course. This is how Trump supporters are.
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SupremeZero posted...

Kenri posted...

Frankly if the CIA was going to kill him I think we'd have already seen two or three failed attempts by now.

Who says we haven't?

Hello, I see the assassins I sent you have failed :^)
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SupremeZero posted...

Kenri posted...

Frankly if the CIA was going to kill him I think we'd have already seen two or three failed attempts by now.

Who says we haven't?

Uh, cuz we haven't seen it and I don't give the CIA credit to try to kill someone without making it obvious.
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I mean, that one guy who tried to bumrush Donald's stage might have been with the CIA.

You know the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9kZb9nDoE
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Some choice comments if people don't want to go see the crazy first hand:

Phil Mudd is ex-CIA, an ex-deputy director. This guy isn't just a tv person making things spicey, he has first hand knowledge, this is probably a serious threat against the president.

Exactly. That's what he says ..I was in govt and they are going to kill him. He gives credence and acts as he has inside knowledge. I'm so sick of this treasonous talk against our properly elected President!

CNN has gone from shitty FAKE NEWS to a Tabloid to an unhinged terrorist organization. In less than a year. What's the next move CNN? What's the next move?

If the CIA kills Trump, we make a pit stop in Atlanta on our way to D.C.

(Atlanta is where CNN is headquartered)

Trump better act on this shit or they will actually kill him. They feel like untouchable gods. Both, the deep state and its puppet arm called media.

Most of those have 200+ up votes and are the highest voted comments on the thread. The ones they are deleting (or getting BIGLY down voted) are ones saying he didn't actually mean kill and "we shouldn't feign outrage like the left". There is an entire thread badmouthing Ben Shapiro of all people for siding with liberals and pushing that line of thought.

Lol
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Kenri posted...

SupremeZero posted...

Kenri posted...

Frankly if the CIA was going to kill him I think we'd have already seen two or three failed attempts by now.

Who says we haven't?

Uh, cuz we haven't seen it and I don't give the CIA credit to try to kill someone without making it obvious.

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You don't give the CIA credit to kill someone without making it obvious.

The CIA.
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The CIA, the people who tried like 80 times to kill or overthrow Castro without it working, who brainstormed such great plans as "exploding cigar" and "if we can get rid of his beard somehow he'll lose all his popular support".

And we live in an era of much, much better communication and recording now.
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https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/11/16130812/trump-north-korea-tweet-us-military

“No,” Lt. Colonel Christopher B. Logan, a Pentagon spokesperson, told me over the phone. “No changes related to that [North Korea].”

So unless the defensive presence over Guam counts as "locked and loaded", Trump is using Twitter to bluff about world war level affairs.

What a world.
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Topic title should be "A tail told by an idiot, full of fire and furry"

Continue.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/11/16130812/trump-north-korea-tweet-us-military

“No,” Lt. Colonel Christopher B. Logan, a Pentagon spokesperson, told me over the phone. “No changes related to that [North Korea].”

So unless the defensive presence over Guam counts as "locked and loaded", Trump is using Twitter to bluff about world affairs.

What a world.

I mean, this was obvious. Military isn't going to be ready to deploy in like 15 hours.
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Been hearing about family members called upon from reserves from a couple of ppl I know. May have no relation.
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Also holy Christ.

That article says North Korea has over a million Active troops and almost 8 million Reserves.

We have technology, but War with them would be tremendously bloody.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Also holy Christ.

That article says North Korea has over a million Active troops and almost 8 million Reserves.

We have technology, but War with them would be tremendously bloody.

Every male Korean is forced to train for the military after HS in both South Korea and North Korea. They are all considered reserves.
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