Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 121: A Tale Told By an Idiot, Full of Fire and Fury..

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Corrik posted...

Corrik posted...

Nothing will happen. China had pledged to defend NK if they are attacked first and won't of NK attacks first. Australia has pledged to defend USA if NK attacks first.

Everything is hinged on USA attacking first which we will never do with that China vow.

So, this is a huge nothing burger. NK is going to skate to nukes and can't be touched due to China.

If only Obummer started war with China
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TheRock1525 posted...

Also fear of Nuclear Annihilation tends to make sizable portions of the population rally around the president for safety.

Even when he's he one bringing us to that precipice, for basically no reason?
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MrGreenonion posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Also fear of Nuclear Annihilation tends to make sizable portions of the population rally around the president for safety.

Even when he's he one bringing us to that precipice, for basically no reason?

Most people are smart enough to know that a country threatening to attack you shouldn't be allowed to attain nukes. I am sure they attribute blame to the right parties. North Korea in this case.

If Bill Clinton had bombed their nuclear reactors during his term like Israel did Irans in the past, then this wouldn't be at this point qt this point in time.
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"If only bill Clinton had been willing to go to war with China"
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Eddv posted...

"If only bill Clinton had been willing to go to war with China"

Consequences? For America's actions? No such thing.
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Wow, major major props to those counter-protestors at the Charlottesville white supremacy rally, standing their ground even as dozens of angry people with torches encircled them.
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(wrong link posted a minute ago, sorry)

Nothing quite like some light-hearted political commentary by Randy Newman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ya-FGHdBso
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In case anyone needs some comfort right now regarding our foreign relationships...


https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/895286357215543296

A President w no diplomatic experience chose a Sec of State w no diplomatic experience who chose not to hire anyone w diplomatic experience.


...you won't find it here.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Wow, major major props to those counter-protestors at the Charlottesville white supremacy rally, standing their ground even as dozens of angry people with torches encircled them.

It's insane. Those pictures were unbeleivable.

People saying the ralliers are "not America" and "don't represent us" need to grow up and admit what they've fostered in this climate.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Wow, major major props to those counter-protestors at the Charlottesville white supremacy rally, standing their ground even as dozens of angry people with torches encircled them.

It's insane. Those pictures were unbeleivable.

People saying the ralliers are "not America" and "don't represent us" need to grow up and admit what they've fostered in this climate.

Agreed to the first half. As for the second... America has had a long history of one wave of immigrants pushing back against the next. It is the price we pay for the twin goals of a diverse society in terms of culture and race, and a diverse society in terms of thought, ideas, and lifestyles. I think it's important to remember that, and to realize that this, too, will pass.
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There's already been more violence at the rally planned for noon today.

Police have declared a state of emergency
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https://twitter.com/_craigstanley/status/896365259258200068

Look at these fucking losers and their fucking pretend riot gear
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When I met my father back in December 2015, we ran a test to confirm the connection. Today, he posted to Facebook that the white nationalists here look more like Nazi cosplayers with a low budget threshold.

I didn't need the test, it seems.
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I mean, that's basically what they actually are

But they are still dangerous
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https://twitter.com/coldwarcocaine/status/896375037846007808

<3
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https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/896404492895309824

Fuck off Paul Ryan
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Jakyl25 posted...

I mean, that's basically what they actually are

But they are still dangerous

Yeah. For sure, unfortunately.
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But remember, this is okay because Antifa did it first!
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Jeff Zero posted...

When I met my father back in December 2015, we ran a test to confirm the connection. Today, he posted to Facebook that the white nationalists here look more like Nazi cosplayers with a low budget threshold.

I didn't need the test, it seems.

Give me LARPerty or give me death.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/coldwarcocaine/status/896375037846007808

<3

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/_craigstanley/status/896365259258200068

Look at these fucking losers and their fucking pretend riot gear

lol @ the random-ass Red Wings logos.

Nothing says white pride like a hockey team based in a predominantly black city!
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Well we are known for a significant race riot
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And then the city was healed a year later by a magical Tigers run.

Happy ending!
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My sister lives in Charlottesville and is flying back there today.

Hopefully nothing crazy happens.
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Implying a 1000+ White Nationalist march isn't crazy
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I'm sure "to her" is the implication there.
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https://twitter.com/tomperriello/status/896407771696033793

IF ONLY someone caught this on camera
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every gif or image or post I see about the Charlottesville stuff makes my stomach turn
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My biggest question is how no one in Charlottesville has to work on a Saturday.
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Twitter is wild this past 24 hours
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I don't really understand why this is allowed

Like yeah, I get that even white nationalists have the right to assemble

But why do we allow them the right to assemble AND spread hate speech?

Why are they allowed to chant "Fuck You F*****s?" Doesn't that fly in the face of public obscenity laws?
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It shouldnt be allowed and they should all be dispersed.
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They should be dispersed simply because they were allowed to assemble in one park and they've marched to another one. They've broken the rules of their permit.
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https://twitter.com/adamserwer/status/896412512480104449

This is the double standard
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hate speech isn't a thing, jakyl.
though being in violation of obscenity is possible depending where it is, i guess.

(not a defense of them, just that they can say it outside certain situations that will usually involve children.)
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Hate speech certainly is a fucking thing we just dont have hate speech laws in this country because we're stupid
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That rally is a bigger sausagefest than EVO
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Nah, plenty of women counter-protestors
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nah, our laws there are fairly correct. gotta allow as much as possible, especially that which you don't like and is offensive. if you commit a crime while using that, the punishment does get worse. that's fair. but commit a crime first is all.

Jakyl25 posted...

This is the double standard

jakyl, c'mon man. it's as a result of Ferguson that you had police so limp wristed shortly after for Baltimore and is likely the reason why they're incredibly ineffective these days against any protest or riot. these days it's usually "back off, hold the line, and let them tire themselves out" or do literally nothing. they've only started to really use a bit more force to disperse crowds again.
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So it's your belief that there is no police double standard depending on who is protesting?
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Wanglicious posted...

nah, our laws there are fairly correct. gotta allow as much as possible

No you don't.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nah, plenty of women counter-protestors

True, but I meant just the alt-right side.
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At least, if nothing else, this should expedite the removal of the Confederate monuments
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so far? no, not yet. protests that devolve into riots and involve police telling them to disperse for hours until they a) start forcing them, or b) still do nothing has been the trend in the aftermath of Ferguson. ironically i think the only instance that a crowd did disperse when told to was Spencer's. but this? right now i'd consider this to still be sub-Milo-at-Berkeley. have to go beyond that still for the even more violent ones but it has a good chance of getting there.

biggest concern i've got isn't in cops but in the fact that we've now got two opposing sides that have been having skirmishes with each other and one got a very clear victory last night. this entire thing was bait, that's the frustrating part. any and every opposition should've just let them do their thing; you let them rally and and let them hang themselves with their own rope. if you do the whole "let me counterprotest!" gig you're just giving them a win because it'll be framed as either ineffective or worse, beat down commie scum. them chanting "FUCK YOU F******" has a higher chance of damaging them than any number of people there. you already know this is going to have a lot of the worst elements, all you have to do is present them, not physically engage them (not including things like undercover interviews or something, that could work too).
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ah. catching up it seems some things are dispersing but it's more of guerrilla warfare more than anything else. seems the latest is cars running over people. not sure who to who but i doubt it's going to stay to any one side. that place is gonna be a hellhole tonight.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896431205549318144

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.jpg
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Yeah it was alt right driving into the counter protest marchers.
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'k, saw the vid.

affiliation of driver: unknown
people run over: anti protesters

they were busy chanting "who's streets? our streets!" for minutes in the middle of the road, blocking traffic. a car comes out at one point, partially crashing into another and running some over.
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/896433618595270656/video/1

Some Kind Of Content Warning: Involved Cars Hitting People

I am being sarcastic because the tweet itself has a content warning, just read that.
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