Board 8 > Game of Thrones Season 7 - Send a raven North... (SPOILER)

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i think certain japanese proper nouns were also whitelisted for 'shit' back in the day
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Euron a 28/10 character
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hm I specifically remember not being able to say Miyashita before
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looks like I can now
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well we can say shit now anyway

it's just the ULTRA DIRTY WORDS that are still banned

like the hound's go-to vagina word
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if any more words coming pouring out of your vagina mouth then i'm going to eat every last fucking chicken in this room
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SeabassDebeste posted...

in the books it directly is referenced by tyrion as he strangles shae.

I know, but obviously in this universe it doesn't reference that. I don't think they would put it in randomly if it wasn't to make a point. Could've made a "Dornishman's Wife" reference then.
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i do think that's likely. in the map floor, someone noted that jaime stands on the fingers while cersei stands on the neck. too much coincidence.

and in fairness, dornishman's wife has already been sung!
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Since this topic is slow outside of Sunday nights through, like, Tuesday mornings, I figured I'd copy over one of my posts in NeoGAF's Thrones topic. We we're discussing what might happen with Sam for the rest of the season.

Even if the wildest unconfirmed runtime hypotheses for Season 8 hold true (namely, HBO Programming Chief Casey Bloys saying "it hasn't been decided how long each episode will be, but feature-length isn't impossible" or whatever) we still don't have a lot of time left on the clock. Sam and Gilly are with Jorah now, but they're all hundreds of leagues away from the real action. I imagine the writers will want to bring them to either Dragonstone or Winterfell before the end of the current, penultimate season.

Doing so means truncating Sam's Citadel plot, which is perfectly fine. It means less richness than in the books, but a far more direct route to wherever he's going with this. It could even be possible -- very possible -- that he's already done everything he was meant to do here. He's (ostensibly) cured Jorah and he's sent word to Jon that Dragonstone needs to be mined, which has bolstered Jon's thinking and pushed him to meet Daenerys. These are both big things. Maybe he gets kicked out in 7x03 for all we know. Some fans would be disappointed, some would undoubtedly call it a worthless plot, but me, I'd be fine.

That said, I suspect there will be at least one more event before he leaves. Not sure what it will be, though.

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the knowledge part of the citadel has been an absolute fucking joke so far. we need either a discovery, or sam to get greyscale, for the citadel to pay off.

OTOH, we haven't wasted much screen time here, which is nice, so even if it doesn't pay off i'm fine.
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I basically don't give a shit what the show does with the citadel, because it's already obvious they aren't going to do anything remotely similar to the books. which is fine, I guess. I mean we reached the point several seasons ago where I basically decided to just consider everything the show does non-canon; this is the main reason I'm able to keep watching because I know even if something happens it's not a spoiler per se. the show runners have proven they're willing to fundamentally and completely change entire plot threads which means anything can happen on the show regardless of what GRRMs outline says.
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Why would Sam go to Dragonstone? What purpose does that serve? I can maybe see it happening if they kick him out but otherwise, he's training to become a maester for the Wall. There's nothing for him in either Dragonstone or Winterfell. If he gets kicked maybe Jorah needs extra attention or he goes to figure out how Dany cannot be hurt by fire or something but other than that...Sam's only scene last season was him arriving at Oldtown wasn't it? (and a couple of scenes with dad). Maybe they'll just leave him in Oldtown for the rest of the show.
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Randall Tarly will backstab Cersei and steal the throne (this is after Dany fails spectacularly against the White Walkers and dies), only him and Dickon will die and they'll turn to Sam to be king, but he'll turn down the throne in the same way Maester Aemon did.
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I'd be surprised if Sam stayed in Oldtown until the end of the season, let alone the remainder of the show.
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He serves little plot relevance. Ever since returning from the Wall, his scenes have basically been doting on his baby and Gilly or the journey to Oldtown. I can see no purpose for him anywhere else in Westeros that would be greater than studying how to become a maester of the Night's Watch.
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he wouldn't serve a plot purpose if he stayed in oldtown, it would be like writing him off. grrm loves sam. he's going to be important.
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idk why you guys like Euron so much in the show

He kind of sucks. He is basically just a brute and doesn't have the sort of charisma you would expect.

a lot of the show characters have become very dour over the last few seasons. euron is basically the only character who seems to be enjoying himself. this is a pretty good explanation for why some fans have taken to him pretty quickly.
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I've turned around on Euron from not liking him that much last season. Even if pulls that dumb horn out of nowhere now I won't mind it as much
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velocycloraptor posted...

idk why you guys like Euron so much in the show

He kind of sucks. He is basically just a brute and doesn't have the sort of charisma you would expect.

I like how he's been four slightly different people for the different environments he finds himself in

Plus just straight-up cool. Walks into the throne room dressed like he fell head over heels through a hot topic and doesn't give a shit and rides his ship onto another ship to murder everything

Awesome
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MariaTaylor posted...

a lot of the show characters have become very dour over the last few seasons. euron is basically the only character who seems to be enjoying himself. this is a pretty good explanation for why some fans have taken to him pretty quickly.

lol
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MariaTaylor posted...

a lot of the show characters have become very dour over the last few seasons. euron is basically the only character who seems to be enjoying himself. this is a pretty good explanation for why some fans have taken to him pretty quickly.

That's what I don't like tbqh he's super like cartoony. Combining Victarian and Euron seems like a mistake to begin with though. You can't effectively combine brutish dumbass soldier with intelligent charismatic sociopath pirate. It doesn't really work.

seems like it did work for a lot of casual show watchers
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i was a giant euron hater in S6 after the kingsmoot, but everything he's done in S7 has resonated with me. it might not resonate with you, but it's shocking that you don't get why he's so beloved! just like most of us here aren't thrilled with dany, but her appeal is obvious - she's a hot dragon princess who kicks a lot of ass and stands up to men
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That infographic from the last topic point out that Sam is the most consistent character in the show. Every season, he has had plenty of scenes that usually match each other for worth based on where they are in the season.


I'm a little mad that the Grey Worm/Missandei scene was five times longer than it needed to be.
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The silly length of that sequence was probably my one real issue with last week's episode, yeah.
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I don't think Grey Worm/Missandei was five times longer than it needed to be when it needed to be nothing at all. They're both extremely attractive, though, even for TV.

Though I heard that there was a scene with Ghost - already produced - that they cut in post-production.
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It was propaganda to make sure you keep supporting team Dany. Sure whatever, show them confess, don't give me two minutes of her dragging it out of him, two minutes of kissing and disrobing, then the move to the bed. Hell, save that cunnilingus for the boat scene.

Euron is alright. He's just a villain though, which is pretty lame for a character in the show. The only reason Cersei hasn't completely dropped into that hole is because of Jaime and the amount of time they've invested in her. Hopefully Euron doesn't stick around as long as Ramsey though.
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euron literally cannot stick around as long as ramsay. ramsay was around from about 3x03 to 6x09 and was a very consistent presence. euron was barely in S6 and will only be in 13 episodes between S7/8 even if he makes it to the end.
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I'd rather kill myself than have to sit through another 3 seasons of the writers going "hey guys this bad guy is a really bad guy!!!! like really bad!!! a real meanie!!!! look at all the bad things he does!!!! he's such a bad boy!!!!"
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better do it now then he ain't dying til the finale lol
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The season or the series?
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Euron is a bad guy!!!
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Euron is the best guy
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Yeah Euron feels a lot like Ramsay so far. Too villainous and over the top. But most importantly, he came totally out of nowhere. There's no build up at all to make you believe him.

His interaction with Cersei is definitely the best part so far, and gives him potential. But the rest of him feels forced.
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I can appreciate the out-of-nowhere complaint.

But mostly I'm with Maria here. Euron is fun. And he does it without being unfun like Ramsay with Theon and Sansa.
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Ramsay? Not a fan. Now his twenty good men, those guys know how to get stuff done
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speaking of fun characters


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in my fantasy league, hot pie came in 3rd place for his performance

1st was euron obviously, with 2nd being nymeria the wolf
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this euron love is still totally weird to me
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"What a t***."

45/10 character
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Look at this hero of the people
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.....Euron

88/10
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People learning things we already know is never as satisfying on the show as when it happens in the book.
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Fuuuuuck
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kirbypikachuhat posted...

People learning things we already know is never as satisfying on the show as when it happens in the book.

Couldn't remember if it was known in the show or not
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It was.
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Best line
"I read the book and uh followed the instructions"
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that episode was off the charts, damn
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