Current Events > 5 Black Kids held at gunpoint by police because they fit ''the description.''

(+) Yeah! (+)

The problem was that the information they had was too damned vague. The description fits more black males than you can fit on the Great Wall of China. So at that point you're basically shooting in the dark(pun not intended).
---

The Admiral posted...

Yeah, this is the typical rhetoric from the users here who hate police and authority figures. The police made a mistake, but there was no malice here and none of the kids were hurt. If they had just cooperated, this would have been even less dramatic. Overall, this is a non-issue.

Yes those kids were hurt, being held up at gun point hurts. And then they cops even gives contradictory orders and you are bitching about the kids level of compliance.
---

usual suspects
---

The Admiral posted...

ModLogic posted...

oh noes the police made it inconveniet for suspects that fit the description.

no its not the fault of the thugs that the police were actually after. its not like they contributed to the kids being held up.

Yeah, this is the typical rhetoric from the users here who hate police and authority figures. The police made a mistake, but there was no malice here and none of the kids were hurt. If they had just cooperated, this would have been even less dramatic. Overall, this is a non-issue.

The ignorance in this post is astounding but then again, you'll always look for a way to racebait won't you? It's pathetic.
---

here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v=_ONict5F3w4

cjsdowg posted...

The Admiral posted...

Yeah, this is the typical rhetoric from the users here who hate police and authority figures. The police made a mistake, but there was no malice here and none of the kids were hurt. If they had just cooperated, this would have been even less dramatic. Overall, this is a non-issue.

Yes those kids were hurt, being held up at gun point hurts. And then they cops even gives contradictory orders and you are bitching about the kids level of compliance.

What physical injuries did they sustain?
---

Blue_Inigo posted...

The ignorance in this post is astounding but then again, you'll always look for a way to racebait won't you? It's pathetic.

Show me the part of the post where race was mentioned.
---

I had a more mild version of this happen to me when I was 16. It's fucking ridiculous how cops in the US will act like your rights suddenly disappear the moment they get some kind of call about someone who fits a description.
---

Racism iz ova tho
---

The Admiral posted...

ShinigamiSoul posted...

The Admiral posted...

ModLogic posted...

oh noes the police made it inconveniet for suspects that fit the description.

no its not the fault of the thugs that the police were actually after. its not like they contributed to the kids being held up.

Yeah, this is the typical rhetoric from the users here who hate police and authority figures. The police made a mistake, but there was no malice here and none of the kids were hurt. If they had just cooperated, this would have been even less dramatic. Overall, this is a non-issue.

Compliance doesn't always guarantee a good outcome, because not all police and authority figures are in their right mind.

True, but compliance is still a better tactic in 100% of situations than resistance and disobedience. If you're really that cynical about police, it's an even stronger reason to comply.

KIDS dude

They're KIDS

Can you honestly blame them for being scared/nervous of a crazed cop pointing a gun at them?? That may lead to a delay in compliance

fuck outta here with that BS
---

That's a bit murky, honestly.

There wasn't much to go on, just a reported sighting of a black guy with a gun.

I wouldn't chalk that up to racism, just really bad and irrational judgment. The officer should have sought clarification before jumping to the conclusion of drawing their weapon. Be judicious and thorough if you're going to wear a badge. Yeah someone wandering around with a weapon is dangerous but it's not just cause to draw on anyone who might look the part.
---

StealthRock posted...

KIDS dude

They're KIDS

Can you honestly blame them for being scared/nervous of a crazed cop pointing a gun at them?? That may lead to a delay in compliance

fuck outta here with that BS

Not really an argument against anything I said. Kids that age commit gang violence and can certainly be dangerous. As for compliance, their parents should be teaching them the proper way to interact with cops. Expecting kids thst age to obey authority figures is not at all unreasonable.
---

The Admiral posted...

StealthRock posted...

KIDS dude

They're KIDS

Can you honestly blame them for being scared/nervous of a crazed cop pointing a gun at them?? That may lead to a delay in compliance

fuck outta here with that BS

Not really an argument against anything I said. Kids that age commit gang violence and can certainly be dangerous. As for compliance, their parents should be teaching them the proper way to interact with cops. Expecting kids thst age to obey authority figures is not at all unreasonable.

so they should be tried and treated as adults

despite them not actually having a weapon

gotcha

Not to mention what did they do other than be scared??
---

I love who there is no excuse for little black kids to err.

Had this been a video of little white kids, I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune
---

Honestly what seems most indefensible is telling the mother to get back in the house. They had no right there.

Pulling a gun on a potentially armed suspect, happens, but this fascist shit where they think they have supreme authority over everything and everyone in their view, during an incident is unacceptable.
---

The Admiral posted...

ModLogic posted...

oh noes the police made it inconveniet for suspects that fit the description.

no its not the fault of the thugs that the police were actually after. its not like they contributed to the kids being held up.

Yeah, this is the typical rhetoric from the users here who hate police and authority figures. The police made a mistake, but there was no malice here and none of the kids were hurt. If they had just cooperated, this would have been even less dramatic. Overall, this is a non-issue.

Admiral at his peak.
---

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Pulling a gun on a potentially armed suspect, happens, but this fascist shit where they think they have supreme authority over everything and everyone in their view, during an incident is unacceptable.

This lol. It's a huge problem in this country.
---

If you don't find this horrible, you're racist. Case closed. There's no argument.

It doesn't matter that you disagree. Society gets to determine who's racist, and who's not, and the verdict is in.
---

Twinmold posted...

If you don't find this horrible, you're racist. Case closed. There's no argument.

It doesn't matter that you disagree. Society gets to determine who's racist, and who's not, and the verdict is in.

Why can't "overzealous cop" count? Doesn't have to be race-related.

I think it's absolutely wrong but maybe not for the same reasons as everyone else.
---

Solid Sonic posted...

Twinmold posted...

If you don't find this horrible, you're racist. Case closed. There's no argument.

It doesn't matter that you disagree. Society gets to determine who's racist, and who's not, and the verdict is in.

Why can't "overzealous cop" count? Doesn't have to be race-related.

I think it's absolutely wrong but maybe not for the same reasons as everyone else.

Show us the white kids who get held up like that and then told that they should've behaved better than a fuckin supposedly trained cop in a tense situation??
Go on

Show us

Haldol posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

Twinmold posted...

If you don't find this horrible, you're racist. Case closed. There's no argument.

It doesn't matter that you disagree. Society gets to determine who's racist, and who's not, and the verdict is in.

Why can't "overzealous cop" count? Doesn't have to be race-related.

I think it's absolutely wrong but maybe not for the same reasons as everyone else.

Show us the white kids who get held up like that and then told that they should've behaved better than a fuckin supposedly trained cop in a tense situation??
Go on

Show us

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.
---

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.
---

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

The kids did what the cops said in this case and were completely unharmed, no?
---

thronedfire2 posted...

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

The kids did what the cops said in this case and were completely unharmed, no?

Physically yes. It may very well cause some issues with them mentally.
---

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

I've been stopped by the cops before when I've done nothing wrong and it's not the end of the world. I've told this story before here. For my highschool graduation, a friend's dad let us take his Porsche out. A cop pulled us over because he saw some teenagers driving around in a very expensive car and it looked suspicious to him. He pulled us over, talked to us for a few minutes, verified our story and then sent us on our way. None of our parents or anyone else started crying police abuse and making it into a big deal.
---

DifferentialEquation posted...

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

I've been stopped by the cops before when I've done nothing wrong and it's not the end of the world. I've told this story before here. For my highschool graduation, a friend's dad let us take his Porsche out. A cop pulled us over because he saw some teenagers driving around in a very expensive car and it looked suspicious to him. He pulled us over, talked to us for a few minutes, verified our story and then sent us on our way. None of our parents or anyone else started crying police abuse and making it into a big deal.

That's a hell of a lot tamer than the situation described in this topic though. Can you imagine walking down a sidewalk and suddenly police officers are screaming at you get on the ground with their guns out? My first reaction would be like "wait wtf, are they talking to ME?"
---

known2FAIL posted...

“Can you please put the gun down?” one of the boys asked.

This makes me smile. Even in stressful situations like this, he kept it classy.

The children really are our future.
---

Sativa_Rose posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

I've been stopped by the cops before when I've done nothing wrong and it's not the end of the world. I've told this story before here. For my highschool graduation, a friend's dad let us take his Porsche out. A cop pulled us over because he saw some teenagers driving around in a very expensive car and it looked suspicious to him. He pulled us over, talked to us for a few minutes, verified our story and then sent us on our way. None of our parents or anyone else started crying police abuse and making it into a big deal.

That's a hell of a lot tamer than the situation described in this topic though. Can you imagine walking down a sidewalk and suddenly police officers are screaming at you get on the ground with their guns out? My first reaction would be like "wait wtf, are they talking to ME?"

If it was a uniformed police officer it wouldn't be a big deal at all. They're not going pull the trigger unless you're posing an actual danger to someone. If you're a law abiding citizen and you don't try to attack the cop, then his pistol may as well be a water pistol because neither one will cause any harm to you.
---

DifferentialEquation posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

I've been stopped by the cops before when I've done nothing wrong and it's not the end of the world. I've told this story before here. For my highschool graduation, a friend's dad let us take his Porsche out. A cop pulled us over because he saw some teenagers driving around in a very expensive car and it looked suspicious to him. He pulled us over, talked to us for a few minutes, verified our story and then sent us on our way. None of our parents or anyone else started crying police abuse and making it into a big deal.

That's a hell of a lot tamer than the situation described in this topic though. Can you imagine walking down a sidewalk and suddenly police officers are screaming at you get on the ground with their guns out? My first reaction would be like "wait wtf, are they talking to ME?"

If it was a uniformed police officer it wouldn't be a big deal at all. They're not going pull the trigger unless you're posing an actual danger to someone. If you're a law abiding citizen and you don't try to attack the cop, then his pistol may as well be a water pistol because neither one will cause any harm to you.

Wow what a stupid thing to say.
---

These kids are now going to grow up hating cops because they were held at gunpoint for literally no reason besides their race.

This is how BLM supporters are born

DifferentialEquation posted...

Twinmold posted...

I personally don't care about the race of the kids. I always side with reason and common sense, which 99.9% of the time (including this case) is the side of the police.

I'm sure you tell yourself that you're not a bad person because you're just trolling for laughs, but the fact that you think this sort of thing is funny, means you're a bad person.

I've been stopped by the cops before when I've done nothing wrong and it's not the end of the world. I've told this story before here. For my highschool graduation, a friend's dad let us take his Porsche out. A cop pulled us over because he saw some teenagers driving around in a very expensive car and it looked suspicious to him. He pulled us over, talked to us for a few minutes, verified our story and then sent us on our way. None of our parents or anyone else started crying police abuse and making it into a big deal.

. . .

Did you really compare being stopped while in a Porsche, to being held up at gunpoint?
I mean, I'm sure as fuck not one to prat on about privilege but, god damn white boy. Check yourself.

And even if you aren't directly comparing, even bringing this up, as if it's relevant to the topic at hand, that's deranged.
---

DifferentialEquation posted...

They're not going pull the trigger unless you're posing an actual danger to someone.

Been modded for posting it before so instead just pretend I linked the video of the cop shooting the laying down suspect in the head, thinking she had her taser out, plus that caretaker of the handicap person, why did you shoot me, "I don't know"
Plus dozens on other horrible videos.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Fucking troll. Oh right, you already admitted that.
---

Guilty until proven innocent all up ITT
---

So were the cops looking for some kids that had done something wrong and thought this bunch might be them? Or was this just a random act?

Either way, in 2017, when something like this happens and the media runs the story, they're leaving details out that make the cops look bad/racist. That's how they spark controversy, get views, and make money.
---

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Guilty until proven innocent all up ITT

You understand that they have to arrest people before they're ever proven guilty right? This is the case literally every time, sans a prison break. An arrest or a stop isn't a punishment.
---

Vindris_SNH posted...

So were the cops looking for some kids that had done something wrong and thought this bunch might be them? Or was this just a random act?

Either way, in 2017, when something like this happens and the media runs the story, they're leaving details out that make the cops look bad/racist. That's how they spark controversy, get views, and make money.

American cops don't need help to look bad/racist.

If they'd simply not hold children at gunpoint, not shoot people, not rob people, and not ruin people's lives over petty drug charges, nobody would consider cops bad or racist.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Guilty until proven innocent all up ITT

It's the MO of the usual suspects
---

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Guilty until proven innocent all up ITT

You understand that they have to arrest people before they're ever proven guilty right? This is the case literally every time, sans a prison break. An arrest or a stop isn't a punishment.

I'd definitely say being treated like a criminal before you've even done anything counts, though.


There's a difference between detaining somebody and straight up pointing a gun at them out of nowhere.
---

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

So were the cops looking for some kids that had done something wrong and thought this bunch might be them? Or was this just a random act?

Either way, in 2017, when something like this happens and the media runs the story, they're leaving details out that make the cops look bad/racist. That's how they spark controversy, get views, and make money.

American cops don't need help to look bad/racist.

If they'd simply not hold children at gunpoint, not shoot people, not rob people, and not ruin people's lives over petty drug charges, nobody would consider cops bad or racist.

Except 99% of the time, cops are doing their job properly. But of course every day, effective police work doesn't make the news. So you don't see it. And it goes unappreciated.

But most people don't take a second to think about that. They just go on making generalizations like you have.
---

I'd definitely say being treated like a criminal

They were being treated like potentially armed suspects, because they were.
---

"Do you have a description of them?"
"Well let's see...they were black and..."
"Got it that's all we need. Let's roll guys".

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

They were being treated like potentially armed suspects, because they were.

In that case, every black kid in the area might as well have been a potentially armed suspect.


Do you see the problem here?
---

If we got rid of law enforcement, how long would it take before people started begging for them to come back?
---

Vindris_SNH posted...

If we got rid of law enforcement, how long would it take before people started begging for them to come back?

Less than 24 hours.
---

Vindris_SNH posted...

If we got rid of law enforcement, how long would it take before people started begging for them to come back?

Holy Strawman, Batman!


It's funny that you don't see this with other jobs when workers are rightfully criticized.
---

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Do you see the problem here?

In your logic, yes. So I'm done trying to reason with you.
---

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

In your logic, yes.

lol what the fuck is this even supposed to mean?


Saying "Oh, they're black, they're probably the suspects!" is stupid.

They're legit lucky they didn't get shot because we've seen plenty of times before what happens when you don't "comply" immediately after an order, due to being shocked and scared shitless.
---

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Vindris_SNH posted...

If we got rid of law enforcement, how long would it take before people started begging for them to come back?

Holy Strawman, Batman!


It's funny that you don't see this with other jobs when workers are rightfully criticized.

It's not a strawman. I'm making a point. The point being, cops usually do a great job, and people shouldn't make generalizations about them being awful.
---

Vindris_SNH posted...

It's not a strawman.

Yeah, it kinda is.

Vindris_SNH posted...

I'm making a point.

Doesn't mean it's a good point.

Vindris_SNH posted...

The point being, cops usually do a great job,

The level at which a police officer does there job is not really a consensus; therefore it varies from person to person.

Vindris_SNH posted...

and people shouldn't make generalizations about them being awful.

Just like you made one about them being great?
---