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(+) Yeah! (+)

The company that has worked the most for gamers' interest deserves this win.

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Sony has pushed the "always online" thing and wants to kill used games/rentals.

That sure sounds like having the gamers' interests in mind!

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xfd

Allow reasonable people to judge based on facts instead of rumours.

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Then I await your facts.

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Wait, people chose not the last option?

o.o

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sony has consistently been the most abusive of it's own customers by far, the only reason they shouldn't be in last is that nintendo has no third party support and their first party games have largely been disappointing since 2004

Deserves this win? What are you talking about? This is just asking who you think will be ahead in 2 generations/next generation.

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PS3 online - free. If you choose to pay - PS Plus gives you a load of free games and discounts.

PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries - easily the greatest number of hardcore games, games developed with the gamer in mind.

Why do you think PS3 went from clear bottom to decisively on top even on this site?

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Vlado posted...

PS3 online - free. If you choose to pay - PS Plus gives you a load of free games and discounts.

PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries - easily the greatest number of hardcore games, games developed with the gamer in mind.

Why do you think PS3 went from clear bottom to decisively on top even on this site?

So, basically... Free online is all you have, since the PS Plus thing is basically them offering people games most of them either already have, don't want, or would otherwise buy used in an attempt to use their paid online.

And then opinion.

The same Sony that had to take their free online down for longer than acceptable because they didn't care to give it any competent protection.

The only answer in this poll is the last one.

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Worked for the gamer's interest? Yeah, no, not with them refusing to honor my PS1's warranty and charging me money for not even attempting to fix my problem regarding a DRE. True, that's an individual case, but the class action about DREs with PS2s was not an individual case.

I'm not going to deny that Sony has done a lot for gaming when it comes to developing hardware and software, but they're terrible when it comes to customer support and customer relations. Which, in my opinion, would be a part of "working for the gamer's interest."

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StealThisSheen posted...

Vlado posted...

PS3 online - free. If you choose to pay - PS Plus gives you a load of free games and discounts.

PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries - easily the greatest number of hardcore games, games developed with the gamer in mind.

Why do you think PS3 went from clear bottom to decisively on top even on this site?

So, basically... Free online is all you have, since the PS Plus thing is basically them offering people games most of them either already have, don't want, or would otherwise buy used in an attempt to use their paid online.

That's baseless assumption. And even if it were true (for 0.001% of the PS3 owners it might be!), PS Plus is still an option - it's not like they force you to sign up and go "hey, have these free games," it's just an offer and you can decide whether it's good enough for you.

Xbox Live Gold? Pay up or forget about playing online.

Wii? lol.

StealThisSheen posted...

And then opinion.

And then fact. No matter how you try to slice it. I mean, what is the competition? N64? Mega limited with most genres heavily underrepresented aside from 2-3. Gamecube? Xbox? Joke libraries in comparison to PS2. Wii? lol. Xbox 360? Fine, I'll give you that comes close to PS3, but that's one out of 5.

StealThisSheen posted...

The same Sony that had to take their free online down for longer than acceptable because they didn't care to give it any competent protection.

... and then offered people 4 free games in compensation (you could choose them among 10 choices), and a month of PS Plus.

No denying that the mess-up with the lack of protection was huge, but at least they compensated people relatively well.

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Zachnorn posted...

Worked for the gamer's interest? Yeah, no, not with them refusing to honor my PS1's warranty and charging me money for not even attempting to fix my problem regarding a DRE. True, that's an individual case, but the class action about DREs with PS2s was not an individual case.

I'm not going to deny that Sony has done a lot for gaming when it comes to developing hardware and software, but they're terrible when it comes to customer support and customer relations. Which, in my opinion, would be a part of "working for the gamer's interest."

No company is perfect. I bashed them quite a bit for removing Linux and for the hacking mess-up. Their PRs were also completely inadequate before Kevin Butler came in the spotlight.

But when you outclass the competition so much, you deserve the praise.

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the same sony that tried to subpoena people for merely having viewed a youtube video

working for the gamers indeed

From: Vlado | #008

PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries - easily the greatest number of hardcore games, games developed with the gamer in mind.

For some reason you are adding 3 consoles together. I'll just do SNES, DS, Wii and that beats those 3 no problem. Also how many of those games did sony actually have a part in developing?

From: Vlado | #011

And then fact. No matter how you try to slice it. I mean, what is the competition? N64? Mega limited with most genres heavily underrepresented aside from 2-3. Gamecube? Xbox? Joke libraries in comparison to PS2. Wii? lol. Xbox 360? Fine, I'll give you that comes close to PS3, but that's one out of 5.

DS and SNES are very close to PS2 though I admit I consider PS2 the best console. PC blows any console away.

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I voted for Sony in this poll, so I'm on board with Vlado here.


Today's poll seems fairly similar to this poll from about 4 months ago:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4646

The only difference between that poll and today's poll is the extra option for "None of the above". Using the current results right now, if you removed "None of the above" from today's poll, the results would look like this:

Apple 6.35% 712
Google 5.14% 576
Microsoft 27.02% 3028
Nintendo 28.33% 3175
Sony 33.16% 3716
TOTAL VOTES 11207

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Liquid Wind posted...

the same sony that tried to subpoena people for merely having viewed a youtube video

working for the gamers indeed

Dude, please. Even if that happened, who cares? Nothing even came out of it. And the scales are quite different. I'm not saying Sony are saints - obviously that's not the case. As I said, they've pissed me off with their bulls*** sometimes, too. It's just that they're the best out of the alternatives.

JJH777 posted...

From: Vlado | #008

PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries - easily the greatest number of hardcore games, games developed with the gamer in mind.

For some reason you are adding 3 consoles together. I'll just do SNES, DS, Wii and that beats those 3 no problem. Also how many of those games did sony actually have a part in developing?

From: Vlado | #011

And then fact. No matter how you try to slice it. I mean, what is the competition? N64? Mega limited with most genres heavily underrepresented aside from 2-3. Gamecube? Xbox? Joke libraries in comparison to PS2. Wii? lol. Xbox 360? Fine, I'll give you that comes close to PS3, but that's one out of 5.

DS and SNES are very close to PS2 though I admit I consider PS2 the best console. PC blows any console away.

I added them together because they're Sony's consoles. If we added handhelds, PSP and DS have very comparable library quality (people will try to convince you otherwise, of course, but don't buy it - the difference is not nearly as vast as, say, PS2 vs. Gamecube).

As for DS and SNES being close to PS2 - I can agree about the latter, but DS? No. Anyway, PC is the best, that I can agree 100% with. :)

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Unfortunately even though I agree with you Vlado Sony will probably not be dominating at all.

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-LusterSoldier- posted...

I voted for Sony in this poll, so I'm on board with Vlado here.


Today's poll seems fairly similar to this poll from about 4 months ago:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4646

The only difference between that poll and today's poll is the extra option for "None of the above". Using the current results right now, if you removed "None of the above" from today's poll, the results would look like this:

Apple 6.35% 712
Google 5.14% 576
Microsoft 27.02% 3028
Nintendo 28.33% 3175
Sony 33.16% 3716
TOTAL VOTES 11207

Luster makes an interesting point - Google is much closer to Apple than in the previous poll. Glad to see people are realising Android's much better for gaming than Apple's closed bs. But with so few votes for them in total, one has to wonder how a 1-on-1 poll would look like.

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Oh, come on. You can't even begin to count something like "Hey, they gave the people effected by the downtime free games!" as "thinking of the gamers' best interest." It's more thinking about the backlash if they didn't do anything. Free online or not, the bad press if they did nothing to make up for it would have been terrible.

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XBL > PSN anyway. I'll pay $60 a year (less if I find deals) if it means that the online is actually in top form when I want it. I mean PSN is a reasonable service considering you pay nothing but I don't consider XBL a waste of money and I'm glad I have an alternative when I want a higher quality online play than PSN.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Oh, come on. You can't even begin to count something like "Hey, they gave the people effected by the downtime free games!" as "thinking of the gamers' best interest." It's more thinking about the backlash if they didn't do anything. Free online or not, the bad press if they did nothing to make up for it would have been terrible.

You could spin anything that way. Great library? Oh, they were just trying to prevent people getting mad at the lack of good games!

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From: Vlado | #023

StealThisSheen posted...

Oh, come on. You can't even begin to count something like "Hey, they gave the people effected by the downtime free games!" as "thinking of the gamers' best interest." It's more thinking about the backlash if they didn't do anything. Free online or not, the bad press if they did nothing to make up for it would have been terrible.

You could spin anything that way. Great library? Oh, they were just trying to prevent people getting mad at the lack of good games!

Ummm, they're always trying to prevent that.

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YetAnothrShadow posted...

From: Vlado | #023

StealThisSheen posted...

Oh, come on. You can't even begin to count something like "Hey, they gave the people effected by the downtime free games!" as "thinking of the gamers' best interest." It's more thinking about the backlash if they didn't do anything. Free online or not, the bad press if they did nothing to make up for it would have been terrible.

You could spin anything that way. Great library? Oh, they were just trying to prevent people getting mad at the lack of good games!

Ummm, they're always trying to prevent that.

It would seem you missed the point.

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Point or not. It wasn't a very good comparison.

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How does anyone answer this seriously? Sega's proven it's a total crapshoot who wins and loses.

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The winner of this poll would've made sense if the question was '' Which company is the most likely to not be part of the video game industry 10 years ''.

I mean let's not kid ourselves, Sony's in trouble financially and they pretty much only make profit off their video game division, if this fails they're boned. And the Vita sure doesn't make me hopeful!

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From: Vlado | #017

I added them together because they're Sony's consoles. If we added handhelds, PSP and DS have very comparable library quality (people will try to convince you otherwise, of course, but don't buy it - the difference is not nearly as vast as, say, PS2 vs. Gamecube).

As for DS and SNES being close to PS2 - I can agree about the latter, but DS? No. Anyway, PC is the best, that I can agree 100% with. :)

Are you serious? The PSP library is no where near the DS library. The DS has a ridiculous amount of amazing games. The PSP has like a few final fantasy games and monster hunter. The only reason I like my PSP is because of the PSClassics and all the ports it has.

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The PSP is the worst thing I ever purchased.

Buyer's remorse through the roof.

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Silver_Ermine posted...

Wait, people chose not the last option?

o.o

Agreed. if you don't think one company will dominate the industry the last option is the choice to pick. Doesn't mean none of those companies will be on top, just that not one would necessarily dominate. Which makes the most sense I'd say.

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None of the above is probably the best choice. It's unlikely any company will dominate the industry, but Microsoft is in the best position right now.

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Yep.

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JJH777 posted...

From: Vlado | #017

I added them together because they're Sony's consoles. If we added handhelds, PSP and DS have very comparable library quality (people will try to convince you otherwise, of course, but don't buy it - the difference is not nearly as vast as, say, PS2 vs. Gamecube).

As for DS and SNES being close to PS2 - I can agree about the latter, but DS? No. Anyway, PC is the best, that I can agree 100% with. :)

Are you serious? The PSP library is no where near the DS library. The DS has a ridiculous amount of amazing games. The PSP has like a few final fantasy games and monster hunter. The only reason I like my PSP is because of the PSClassics and all the ports it has.

What are the so-called "amazing" DS games? Phoenix Wright games are pretty cool, but what else?

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Yep.

*high fives 16.69% of GameFAQs*

*high fives back*

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Ayuyu posted...

The PSP is the worst thing I ever purchased.

Buyer's remorse through the roof.

xfd

It's pretty much the most useful gaming machine existing.

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SantaRPG posted...

From: Vlado | #003
xfd

Allow reasonable people to judge based on facts instead of rumours.
ok how about the fact that they took away backwards compatibility just because too many people were buying ps2 games? or the fact that they removed linux after advertising it as a linux machine? Or what about the lawsuits against people who did nothing wrong? OR WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THEY THEY POURED MONEY INTO THE SOPA/PIPA agenda, which is nothing less than an active act of terrorism?

We should all treat sony and everyone who works for them the same way MWC treats boston.

The first is a plain lie.

The second is a joke, agreed. Far from enough to outweigh all the good they've done for us, though.

The third is baseless assumption.

The fourth is another plain lie.

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I couldn't pick Sony because they make so many bad decisions with their consoles and hand helds. They had to know a $600 PS3 launch and the PSP Go wouldn't go so well with the public.

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They had to know a $600 PS3 launch and the PSP Go wouldn't go so well with the public.
They didn't know.

They thought they could charge a ridiculous price for the PS3 from the get-go and people would buy it because the PS2 dominated. Took their success for granted.

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JJH777 posted...

From: Vlado | #017

I added them together because they're Sony's consoles. If we added handhelds, PSP and DS have very comparable library quality (people will try to convince you otherwise, of course, but don't buy it - the difference is not nearly as vast as, say, PS2 vs. Gamecube).

As for DS and SNES being close to PS2 - I can agree about the latter, but DS? No. Anyway, PC is the best, that I can agree 100% with. :)

Are you serious? The PSP library is no where near the DS library. The DS has a ridiculous amount of amazing games. The PSP has like a few final fantasy games and monster hunter. The only reason I like my PSP is because of the PSClassics and all the ports it has.

What are the so-called "amazing" DS games? Phoenix Wright games are pretty cool, but what else?

Pokemon series, DQ series, Professor Layton series, Elite Beat Agents + sequels, Meteos, TWEWY, Radiant Historia, Etrian Odyssey series, Rune Factory series, Advance Wars series, Mario and Luigi, and still a lot more.

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JJH777 posted...

From: Vlado | #037

JJH777 posted...

From: Vlado | #017

I added them together because they're Sony's consoles. If we added handhelds, PSP and DS have very comparable library quality (people will try to convince you otherwise, of course, but don't buy it - the difference is not nearly as vast as, say, PS2 vs. Gamecube).

As for DS and SNES being close to PS2 - I can agree about the latter, but DS? No. Anyway, PC is the best, that I can agree 100% with. :)

Are you serious? The PSP library is no where near the DS library. The DS has a ridiculous amount of amazing games. The PSP has like a few final fantasy games and monster hunter. The only reason I like my PSP is because of the PSClassics and all the ports it has.

What are the so-called "amazing" DS games? Phoenix Wright games are pretty cool, but what else?

Pokemon series, DQ series, Professor Layton series, Elite Beat Agents + sequels, Meteos, TWEWY, Radiant Historia, Etrian Odyssey series, Rune Factory series, Advance Wars series, Mario and Luigi, and still a lot more.

xfd... Are you even serious? All of these can be called "good," but nothing is even close to amazing.

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Been awhile since I've seen you Vlado.

The world needs Sony fanboys around.

Your presence is always appreciated.

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