Board 8 > Iwata: We didn't show more Wii U games because we didn't want Sony/MS copying us

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ninkendo
06/14/12 2:56:00 PM
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/13/iwata-on-wii-us-software-lineup

I believe it

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GuessMyUserName
06/14/12 2:57:00 PM
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heh

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CherryCokes
06/14/12 3:02:00 PM
#3:


Iwata is sounding more and more like a crazy person

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GuessMyUserName
06/14/12 3:03:00 PM
#4:


Sony's plan all along was to announce PSAll-Stars before E3 so that Nintendo wouldn't show any of their games and make the U look like it has nothing in the works

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JDTAY
06/14/12 3:05:00 PM
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Pssh, if you make the original good enough, there's no need to fear the copies. People will go to what's best.

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Meow1000
06/14/12 3:06:00 PM
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From: CherryCokes | #003
Iwata is sounding more and more like a crazy person


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JDTAY
06/14/12 3:07:00 PM
#7:


Also, we need Pokemon TCG 3DS. C'mon Nintendo, you may have lost E3, but you can still win life.

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Raka_Putra
06/14/12 3:08:00 PM
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Good move TBQH.

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Jeff Zero
06/14/12 3:09:00 PM
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From: JDTAY | #007
Also, we need Pokemon TCG 3DS. C'mon Nintendo, you may have lost E3, but you can still win life.

Goddamn that'd be heaven.

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mnkboy907
06/14/12 3:19:00 PM
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I'd prefer a new Pokemon Snap.

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Jeff Zero
06/14/12 3:22:00 PM
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Alright, Zeropinion alert.

I don't care about Pokemon Snap. It's 90 minutes of flash photography on rails.

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Meow1000
06/14/12 3:23:00 PM
#12:


Iwata holding Bananas still best

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mnkboy907
06/14/12 3:24:00 PM
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They could make it so much more amazing with the Wii U. The controller is pretty much perfect for it.

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Jeff Zero
06/14/12 3:24:00 PM
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From: mnkboy907 | #013
They could make it so much more amazing with the Wii U. The controller is pretty much perfect for it.

Yeah, alright. I can get behind this, come to think...

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KingButz
06/14/12 3:28:00 PM
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Iwata *laughs*

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Pram_the_Oracle
06/14/12 3:54:00 PM
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TCG > Snap

But I still want both.

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foolm0ron
06/14/12 3:58:00 PM
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From: mnkboy907 | #013
They could make it so much more amazing with the Wii U. The controller is pretty much perfect for it.

This is the same logic that people used to say the Wii would be "perfect" for Okami

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pjbasis
06/14/12 4:23:00 PM
#18:


I think Miyamoto said the same about Sunshine and the waterpack.


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pjbasis
06/14/12 4:25:00 PM
#19:


Pokemon TCG >>> Pokemon Snap

Though I do kind of have a problem with the way TCGs are run electronically after playing Magic 2012.

The Pokemon TCG has changed so much, anyone who liked the old game should be wary about how complex it is now.

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Helba QotD
06/14/12 4:28:00 PM
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How has it changed?

I bought a cheap YGO DS game last year and found they completely changed the way the decks are structured. I was not pleased.
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WhiteLens
06/14/12 4:47:00 PM
#21:


He just wanted to give more spotlight to Non-specific Action Figure.
What a bro.

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pjbasis
06/14/12 4:56:00 PM
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From: Helba QotD | #020
How has it changed?


I haven't spent enough time on it to really tell you details.
I just know because me and a friend got interested in the game again after playing MTG for a while, so we bought these championship decks to see.

The game was way faster, and involved a lot more "strategy" in the abilities and Trainer/Stadium cards.. Raw power and HP was really downplayed, as was the Energy/Color system. I think one of our decks had 4-6 Energy cards in it.
The first set had a feel of slowly "building" up your pokemon with evolution and stuff, while these decks were about abusing combos and stacking of abilities, drawing/playing lots of cards in a single turn.

Keep in mind these were top-tier styles of play, but it's enough to see all the cards from the old set would be absolutely terrible now.

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20three
06/14/12 4:59:00 PM
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And yet Nintendo copies and rehashes its old games 100's of times...

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KanzarisKelshen
06/14/12 5:00:00 PM
#24:


From: pjbasis | #022
From: Helba QotD | #020
How has it changed?


I haven't spent enough time on it to really tell you details.
I just know because me and a friend got interested in the game again after playing MTG for a while, so we bought these championship decks to see.

The game was way faster, and involved a lot more "strategy" in the abilities and Trainer/Stadium cards.. Raw power and HP was really downplayed, as was the Energy/Color system. I think one of our decks had 4-6 Energy cards in it.
The first set had a feel of slowly "building" up your pokemon with evolution and stuff, while these decks were about abusing combos and stacking of abilities, drawing/playing lots of cards in a single turn.

Keep in mind these were top-tier styles of play, but it's enough to see all the cards from the old set would be absolutely terrible now.


Amusingly, bunches of them are actually really broken. See Professor Oak for instance, or Super Energy Removal.

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SantaRPidgey
06/14/12 5:13:00 PM
#25:


From: Jeff Zero | #011
Alright, Zeropinion alert.

I don't care about Pokemon Snap. It's 90 minutes of flash photography on rails.

maybe you forgot abou how you can THROW APPLES
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pjbasis
06/14/12 5:20:00 PM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #024
Amusingly, bunches of them are actually really broken. See Professor Oak for instance, or Super Energy Removal.


I was referring mostly to Pokemon cards.

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StealThisSheen
06/14/12 5:25:00 PM
#27:


20three posted...
And yet Nintendo copies and rehashes its old games 100's of times...



I'm pretty sure they're called sequels.

Which, yes, will seem like copies and rehashes.

Because they're the same series.

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20three
06/14/12 5:42:00 PM
#28:


From: StealThisSheen | #027
20three posted...
And yet Nintendo copies and rehashes its old games 100's of times...



I'm pretty sure they're called sequels.

Which, yes, will seem like copies and rehashes.

Because they're the same series.


Right because Pokemon Blue and Black aren't damn well near the same game...

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GuessMyUserName
06/14/12 5:44:00 PM
#29:


From: 20three | Posted: 6/14/2012 8:42:37 PM | #028
From: StealThisSheen | #027
20three posted...
And yet Nintendo copies and rehashes its old games 100's of times...



I'm pretty sure they're called sequels.

Which, yes, will seem like copies and rehashes.

Because they're the same series.


Right because Pokemon Blue and Black aren't damn well near the same game...

so you understand? good.

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Wanglicious
06/14/12 5:46:00 PM
#30:


they both have 'pokemon' in the name and have a similar concept, yes.
like dragon quest, final fantasy, tales of, star ocean, devil may cry, assassin's creed, etc do.

you know, sequels.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/14/12 5:48:00 PM
#31:


From: pjbasis | #026
From: KanzarisKelshen | #024
Amusingly, bunches of them are actually really broken. See Professor Oak for instance, or Super Energy Removal.


I was referring mostly to Pokemon cards.


And what do you think I was talking about? Professor Oak let you draw seven cards, which is incredibly strong action advantage. Super Energy Removal took like two or three energies from your enemy, neutering them. That's really, really powerful.

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WhiteLens
06/14/12 5:50:00 PM
#32:


See Professor Oak for instance, or Super Energy Removal.

It's like he doesn't know how to pick up on context...

Man I would love to play an actual Pokemon game where Prof. Oak was broken tier!

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pjbasis
06/14/12 5:51:00 PM
#33:


I thought your sentence was pointing out a contradiction to my phrase that most old cards are probably useless.

So I said that I was mostly referring to old Pokemon cards being useless.

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GuessMyUserName
06/14/12 6:40:00 PM
#34:


I'm pretty sure it's impossible to complain about Nintendo rehashing when other than Mario they haven't made anything else more than twice this gen.

meanwhile Microsoft's got 4 Halos (5 counting Wars, but I wouldn't so long as you don't count Other M with Prime 3), 4 Forzas, and 3 Gears. And Sony's got 4 Ratchet, 3 Uncharted, 3 Resistance, 2.5 inFamous, and 2 LBPs, and 2 Killzones

not to mention 3rd parties (lol 7 CoD and 5 Assassin's)

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Ayuyu
06/14/12 6:46:00 PM
#35:


Yeah, it's pretty crazy that it's Nintendo who get called out for rehashing games when they do it much less than Sony and Miccrosoft.

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foolm0ron
06/14/12 8:18:00 PM
#36:


Nintendo doesn't rehash as much as Activision so they're immune from any criticism

Great logic

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LlednarTwem
06/14/12 8:23:00 PM
#37:


That's...not what he was saying, or at least not how I read it. I'm fairly sure he was just pointing out that it was odd for Nintendo to sometimes be singled out on the issue.

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GuessMyUserName
06/14/12 8:31:00 PM
#38:


From: foolm0ron | Posted: 6/14/2012 11:18:53 PM | #036
Nintendo doesn't rehash as much as Activision

you left out a ton of companies there

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Jeff Zero
06/14/12 8:34:00 PM
#39:


I did forget about the apple-throwing.

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