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XIII_rocks
06/14/12 3:03:00 PM
#101:


http://www.twitvid.com/HMNQH

CODY RHODES, ladies and gentlemen. CODY F***ING RHODES.

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edwardsdv
06/14/12 3:14:00 PM
#102:


I think more than anything i like that he drives around listening to Percy Watsons theme song.

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 3:16:00 PM
#103:


That's the O'Neil/Young theme.

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XIII_rocks
06/14/12 3:20:00 PM
#104:


PRIME TIME PLAYERS

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Masato_Tanaka
06/14/12 3:33:00 PM
#105:


that kane article is pretty awesome

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ninkendo
06/14/12 4:09:00 PM
#106:


http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article10025697.shtml

Does Vince care about storyline consistency?: "It would always be brought up. Logic would always be brought up, but sometimes it'd just be thrown right out the window. He'd sometimes say he couldn't even remember what happened three weeks ago, so how is the audience going to remember it? I think sometimes that was his thought…"

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 4:51:00 PM
#107:


AIM: B8watchesImpact

A show that remembers what happened 3 weeks ago, though maybe not what happened 3 years ago.

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voltch
06/14/12 7:03:00 PM
#108:


NINJAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!!!!!!1

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 7:07:00 PM
#109:


Yes, I called it within 10 seconds so I want credit if it's right:

Those are the Ninjas that kidnapped Samoa Joe 2 years ago finally enacting their plan!

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GTM
06/14/12 7:10:00 PM
#110:


led by muhammad hassan

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edwardsdv
06/14/12 7:21:00 PM
#111:


From: Jakyl25 | #107
AIM: B8watchesImpact

A show that remembers what happened 3 weeks ago, though maybe not what happened 3 years ago.

How wrong you were Jakyl.

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Lopen
06/14/12 7:24:00 PM
#112:


NINJAAAAAASSS!!!!1

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/14/12 7:27:00 PM
#113:


Mother f***er did I miss ninjas?

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 7:40:00 PM
#114:


edwardsdv posted...

How wrong you were Jakyl.


Hey that Ninja attack was only 2 years ago!

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 10:36:00 PM
#115:


Trying to compare Punk and Roode's reigns. Have I forgotten any televised defenses?

Roode
d. Storm on Impact
d. Styles at Turning Point
draws Styles at Final Resolution
d. Styles on Impact
draws Hardy at Genesis
d. Hardy, Storm, Ray at Against All Odds
d. Storm at Lockdown
d. Van Dam at Sacrifice
d. Styles on Impact
d. Sting at Slammiversary
d. Anderson on Impact
11 title defenses thus far

Punk
d. Del Rio on Raw
d. Del Rio and Miz at TLC
retains via CO loss vs. Ziggler on Raw
d. Ziggler at Royal Rumble
d. Ziggler, Miz, Jericho, Kingston, Truth at Elimination Chamber
d. Jericho at Wrestlemania
retains via CO loss vs. Henry on Raw
retains via DQ loss vs. Henry on Raw
d. Henry on Raw
d. Jericho at Extreme Rules
d. Bryan at Over the Limit
draws Kane on SmackDown
12 defense thus far

Despite fewer defenses in a longer reign, Roode's reign seems a bit more credible. <_<

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JaKyL25
06/14/12 10:41:00 PM
#116:


For completionism's sake, I believe Sheamus has only had 2 defenses thus far, vs. Bryan at Extreme Rules and vs. Orton, Jericho, and Del Rio at Over the Limit.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/14/12 10:52:00 PM
#117:


An interview with Big Dick Johnson about working with Vince with writing shows. ...It's pretty depressing.

DeJoseph on what it's like behind the scenes when Vince McMahon decides to appear on TV after an absence: "I think there were numerous times where that could be brought up in totally different ways," DeJoseph, also known on air as Big Dick Johnson, says. "Sometimes it could be a request from the writing team. For the most part Vince didn't like to be on TV if he didn't have to be. I'm just using my own judgment here; I think this might have something to do with - usually it's like the McMahon Million Dollar Mania, or now the three hour Raws - I'm wondering if it's some kind of play to make some kind crazy announcement to get ratings."

Did the writing team usually collaborate with him or did he just say "this is what I'm doing"? "There were lots of time where it was, 'We have this idea, we'd like to do it.' And he would be, like, 'Okay, that's great.' There were other times, for instance the Million Dollar thing, where he came to us with the idea and [that meant] we were doing it. (laughs)"

Does Vince care about storyline consistency?: "It would always be brought up. Logic would always be brought up, but sometimes it'd just be thrown right out the window. He'd sometimes say he couldn't even remember what happened three weeks ago, so how is the audience going to remember it? I think sometimes that was his thought…"

DeJoseph says the blame should be on Vince himself, and not the writing team, for the big gaps in logic, dropped storylines, and stream of aggravating contradictions. "I'm sure they're going to try or at least they've been pitching all week or they're going to try to explain something. I'm sure they have something in mind to explain it logically. If they don't that'll be interesting, too... It's a big promotional thing that's going to get eyeballs on this TV show and I think that's what he thinks [matters]."

Does it chip away at fans investing in the product? "Yeah, it sucks. [Fans have to be thinking,] 'Why should I invest my time and everything into this storyline when they're just going to sh-- on it without explanation.' I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they will on Monday. I don't know what they're going to do on Monday."

DeJoseph says the writing team cares even when Vince doesn't: "At least when I was there, and I'm sure it's still the same way, we would try to present every logical thing. We'd say we need to explain that, and whether it was ignored or we were told 'No, we f---in' don't,' that's the way it was... If not for Vince, the writers such as Michael Hayes, Ed Koskie, and Brian Gewirtz would try to make sense of their ideas, but with Vince "you're constantly dealing with switching and changing things.

"Sometimes it's even hard for yourself to keep up on everything. I think they would try for sure. I'm sure when they knew that Vince was coming back, it was probably one of the first things that came up - how in the hell are we going to explain why he's back. And then it was probably, like, 'Don't f---in' worry about it.' And they go, 'Okay.' I think the writing team wants what most fans want because, for the most part, they're all fans."

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Lopen
06/14/12 11:56:00 PM
#118:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #117
Does it chip away at fans investing in the product? "Yeah, it sucks. [Fans have to be thinking,] 'Why should I invest my time and everything into this storyline when they're just going to sh-- on it without explanation.' I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they will on Monday. I don't know what they're going to do on Monday."


So wait is this "maybe they will on Monday" referring to something in particular?

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 12:02:00 AM
#119:


By context I assume he was referring to this past Monday about potential continuity errors regarding Vince having the power to fire someone.

It's frustrating knowing that it doesn't HAVE to be a plothole and can be easily remedied with like 2 sentences but that Vince doesn't care to do it.

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Lopen
06/15/12 1:23:00 AM
#120:


Yeah that makes sense. I didn't watch Monday so I was just sorta wondering if it was that or something stronger or just a general thought or what.

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XIII_rocks
06/15/12 3:34:00 AM
#121:


So I watched Gabriel/Hunico on Superstars

what an entertaining match and an awesome finish, I don't think I've ever seen that before.

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MartinFF7
06/15/12 5:24:00 AM
#122:


You've convinced me to watch that Superstars match... at least I'll get the delightfulness of Hunico's intro theme + low rider bike.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/15/12 6:28:00 AM
#123:


Hunico > Sin Cara

...God damn, I wouldn't have ever said that when he was in FCW.

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DeathChicken
06/15/12 6:35:00 AM
#124:


The fact they aren't pushing Hunico is one of the weirder "We hate money" things WWE has done. He's everything Sin Cara is, minus botches and plus speaking English

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SmartMuffin
06/15/12 6:38:00 AM
#125:


No mask that sells a crapload to kiddies. No crazy flippy-dos. No wrestling in the dark.

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DeathChicken
06/15/12 7:16:00 AM
#126:


He technically had all of those things, until they made him stop <_<

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 10:30:00 AM
#127:


http://www.wwe.com/inside/polls/which-superstar-has-impressed-you-the-most-in-the-first-part-of-2012

I can't say I expected the current leader to be winning this poll!

Lots of great great choices. AJ, Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, the Prime Time Players...but I voted for Damien Sandow.

You're welcome.

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ninkendo
06/15/12 10:33:00 AM
#128:


I would hope everyone votes Sandow!

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ninkendo
06/15/12 10:39:00 AM
#129:


http://www.wwe.com/classics/15-most-outrageous-superstars

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XIII_rocks
06/15/12 10:41:00 AM
#130:




Pretty funny story from when Punk/Kofi travelled together.

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 10:58:00 AM
#131:


So Chris Sabin tore his ACL in his good leg.

This guy is just cursed.

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FFDragon
06/15/12 11:07:00 AM
#132:


I was wondering why that Ultimate X match seemed rushed at the end.

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 12:07:00 PM
#133:


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8056213/john-cena-big-show-how-century-pretend-fighting-led-wwe-reality-era

Not one of the Masked Man's best efforts but as always, worth a read.

Most enlightening to me was the realization that Cena vs. Show really is in a sense WWE trying to recapture Hogan vs. Andre.

Also it amuses me to read all those stories about 50 years of reporters trying to "expose" wrestling when the fanbase already understood what it was, and then to contrast that with modern wrestling media so desperately trying to find reality in what happens, to the point where in some way people are more easily worked now than ever before.

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ScareChan
06/15/12 3:19:00 PM
#134:


so impact was great last night. love the stories and booking. keep it up can't wait for next week.

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voltch
06/15/12 3:25:00 PM
#135:


No more Sabin?

Might as well retire now :/

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voltch
06/15/12 3:26:00 PM
#136:


Also since when does FFD watch Impact?

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TheRock1525
06/15/12 3:31:00 PM
#137:


MartinFF7 posted...
You've convinced me to watch that Superstars match... at least I'll get the delightfulness of Hunico's intro theme + low rider bike.

holy s*** that was an awesome finish and a great match. Thanks, wouldn't have watched it if you hadn't posted!


I love Hunico's entrance theme and the low-rider bike.

Someday I'm going to get around to doing that "Top 20 current and past WWE themes."

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 3:37:00 PM
#138:


According to loldirtsheets, Triple H is really bitter and resentful towards Foley due to the general sentiment that Foley made him a star, which conflicts with Hunter's self-created ideal that no one ever helped him in this industry and he did it all himself.

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XIII_rocks
06/15/12 3:42:00 PM
#139:


Yeah I saw that. Kind of sad if it's true.

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TheKnightOfNee
06/15/12 4:04:00 PM
#140:


I gained a ton of respect for HHH after his duels with Foley!

Granted, there was stuff HHH did along the way and after for himself that added to that, but those few main events really got him over the step.

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PrivateBiscuit1
06/15/12 4:45:00 PM
#141:


Former WWE talent Kenn Doane (a/k/a Kenny Dykstra) posted a message on his Twitter account this week alleging that some of John Cena’s marital problems stem from adultery on the part of the WWE Superstar.

Doane said on the micro-blogging website earlier that he believes Cena is among those within the sports entertainment organization lobbying for Randy Orton’s dismissal following his second violation of the Talent Wellness Program. A Twitter user chastised Doane for spreading rumors about Cena. He responded, “Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I’m sure his [adultery] in his marriage is a rumor by me too? Or is it truth being told?”

Doane also recalled a negative backstage encounter he had with Cena at a WWE show last November. After being asked whether the multi-time champion was good or bad to him during his time with the organization, he responded, “We were cool until last time I was there he hated me. Didn’t even want to talk or shake hands. Everyone else was cool though.”

Doane then posted a message Thursday in response to Cena fans agitated by his remarks: “Before I get hate tweets from Cena fans, just know I’m not lying. Have no reason too. His issue is his issue. Sure he has bigger problems #RafoolLaw.”

Doane continued, “[Cena] will never respond cuz 1 its the truth everything I said and 2 he has bigger problems #RafoolLaw “#BigShow” “#Johnny” b4 #KD’struth.”

Doane added, “I say things others are afraid they will get “heat” for. I don’t care. Truth is truth.”

He is also not upset with wrestling news outlets reporting his Twitter remarks. “They covered everything I said. If it wasn’t true I wouldn’t of wrote it,” Doane said.

Doane, who at one point was engaged to fellow wrestler Mickie James, says he split with the then-WWE Diva after discovering that she was cheating on him with Cena.

“Oh hell no,” Doane wrote Friday to an uninformed follower asking whether he was still engaged to James. “Broke up with her once I found out she was cheating with John. #Rat.”

James’ relationship with Cena briefly turned into a WWE storyline in mid-2008, but ceased once the two broke up. They, however, remained friends as late as May 2009, with James proclaiming then during an interview with GoErie.com that Cena was ‘one of her road pals.’

“I hang out with John. He’s a sweetheart, and he’s very personable,” James said.

Cena married his high school sweetheart, Liz Huberdeau, two months later. Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer later implied in a thread on the F4WOnline.com message board concerning Cena and James’ relationship that James was transferred from Raw to SmackDown in the fall of 2009 because she didn’t professionally handle breaking up from Cena, thus forcing organization officials to separate the two from each other at work.

Nodq.com


So, who believes this? I recall Mickie James being sent to Smackdown for reasons of having relationship drama around that time.

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 5:45:00 PM
#142:


Remember that brief period where Cena and Mickie were an on-screen couple?

I remember it leaking out back around that time that it was a total rib on them for hooking up with each other in real life.

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FFDragon
06/15/12 5:48:00 PM
#143:


voltch posted...
Also since when does FFD watch Impact?


I don't so much watch Impact as watch Aries and then leave the channel on Spike if there's nothing better on.

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SmartMuffin
06/15/12 6:00:00 PM
#144:


So, not that I think those things are certainly untrue, but if they were true, wouldn't we have a better source than Kenny Dykstra?

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 6:10:00 PM
#145:


Neat article on WWE.com about the longest gap between two reigns with the same title for various championships, given Kane's opportunity this Sunday to win the WWE Title 14 years after the last time he did.

WWE Championship: Bob Backlund (11 years)
Intercontinental: Christian (8 1/2 years)
World Tag Team: Legion of Doom (5 1/2 years)
World Heavyweight Championship: Randy Orton (7 years)
ECW Championship: Tommy Dreamer (9 years)
WCW Championship: Lex Luger (5 1/2 years)
Women's Championship: The Fabulous Moolah (12 years)
US Championship: Terry Funk (24 1/2 years)

Really puts Kane's opportunity in perspective given that he could top all of those records except Funk's!

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SmartMuffin
06/15/12 6:12:00 PM
#146:


I found it weird that Cole kept mentioning that Kane won the title "in a first blood match" but never mentioned that it was against STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN.

Have we ever really settled the debate as to whether that finish was botched or not?

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 6:14:00 PM
#147:


Anyone who thinks it was botched probably also still thinks CM Punk's promo was a shoot.

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XIII_rocks
06/15/12 6:16:00 PM
#148:


Any theories as to why they're finally mentioning the shady circumstances behind which Ziggler won the World title? They mentioned it twice in a week.

Is it perhaps because he is primed to win a world title "properly" soon and they want to make out like it would be his first?

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JaKyL25
06/15/12 6:26:00 PM
#149:


With Vince off prepping and performing his own on-screen segments, I have to imagine it was Trips feeding the announcers their lines on Raw, and maybe he actually gives a damn about that sort of thing. <_<

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XIII_rocks
06/15/12 6:26:00 PM
#150:


But they said it on Smackdown, too. >_>

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