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foolm0ron
05/24/12 4:39:00 PM
#401:


KamikazePotato posted...
Or should I play some of Normal solo before queuing up with people?


Whatever you want. I definitely enjoyed playing with random people on my friends list when I saw they were on the same quest as me, but avoid public games.

Or if you're one of those "durr single player game" people then avoid it all.
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MeteorExF
05/24/12 6:00:00 PM
#402:


Skeleton King on Inferno beat. Even on Inferno he is still a joke, just has 3 million health to burn through.

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ninkendo
05/24/12 6:04:00 PM
#403:


Almost to the end of Normal

looking forward to finally being able to play with people!

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Achromatic
05/24/12 6:19:00 PM
#404:


Achromatic posted...
I used my one time code to change it to simply Chris, or Chris#12106

Because why not <_<


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KamikazePotato
05/24/12 6:21:00 PM
#405:


Yeah I'll probably just play through on Normal solo, then start queuing up once I tackle higher difficulties.

I'm having fun but Normal is ridiculously easy so far. Looking forward to playing the other difficulty levels.

Added Shoe and azuarc as friends, WHAT'S UP

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Ayuyu
05/24/12 6:31:00 PM
#406:


More people should play Witch Doctor, they're so fun, throwing frogs everywhere and stuff.

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foolm0ron
05/24/12 6:33:00 PM
#407:


Witch Doctor keeps making me think enemy dogs are coming at me

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ninkendo
05/24/12 7:50:00 PM
#408:


Just got to Act IV. I hear it's short so I'll probably have it done sometime tomorrow.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/24/12 8:02:00 PM
#409:


From: foolm0ron | #407
Witch Doctor keeps making me think enemy dogs are coming at me

Witch Doctor is the most problematic in this way, but people complain about my Monk minions too.

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Ayuyu
05/24/12 8:03:00 PM
#410:


I never had this problem with my zombie dogs! probably because they're total bros.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/24/12 8:09:00 PM
#411:



Added Shoe and azuarc as friends, WHAT'S UP


What up

came on a bad time, as I needed to break!
My bro is currently on

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foolm0ron
05/24/12 8:11:00 PM
#412:


People complain about my Hydras, also... but who could ever think those cute little heads are enemies?
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KamikazePotato
05/24/12 8:16:00 PM
#413:


Damnit, lost the connection. was fun playing with you while it lasted, azuarc.

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GANON1025
05/24/12 9:33:00 PM
#414:


Ugh, I can't believe I'm having this much trouble against Nightmare Diablo..

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KamikazePotato
05/24/12 9:36:00 PM
#415:


This game is crack

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/24/12 10:02:00 PM
#416:


From: KamikazePotato | #415
This game is crack

Welcome to Diablo

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MarvelousGerbil
05/24/12 10:03:00 PM
#417:


lol had a friend take me into the secret level and got the Spectrum sword legendary.

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Lockes Ragnarok
05/24/12 10:16:00 PM
#418:


Still can't even touch Inferno Act II. If you finish Act I thinking you're gonna be able to do s*** in Act II, then you're in for a wakeup call. You won't progress for a long time.

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Achromatic
05/24/12 10:17:00 PM
#419:


Lockes Ragnarok posted...
Still can't even touch Inferno Act II. If you finish Act I thinking you're gonna be able to do s*** in Act II, then you're in for a wakeup call. You won't progress for a long time.


Did you post your tag? I want more people who are relatively on my gear level so I can check them out.

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Achromatic
05/24/12 10:41:00 PM
#420:


Waiting for Red so I can duo it with him.

I am at uh 42k health, 15k dps, and 260 resists across the board. I feel naked resist wise.

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Achromatic
05/24/12 10:47:00 PM
#421:


Yeah I don't play Diablo for the overbearing challenge of kiting mobs all day.

I will do hell runs until I am comfortable with doing work.

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ZoraSushis
05/24/12 10:47:00 PM
#422:


shortansweet#1320

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Lockes Ragnarok
05/24/12 10:49:00 PM
#423:


I was at 38k health, 13k dps before I nerfed myself. Now I'm at 35k health, slightly under 10k dps, 516 physical res, and 360ish elemental res. Not sure it was worth it - I still can't get 2 minutes into Act II. I could, but that would involve way too much effort on my part. There just has to be an easier way.

And by I could, I mean I really don't think I could. Just wishful thinking.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/24/12 10:51:00 PM
#424:


Real men can beat Inferno Diablo on Hardcore. So... really good hackers are real men, I guess..

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Phase
05/24/12 10:51:00 PM
#425:


I was 60 yesterday. I'm just soloing with that character, so I'm not putting my tag out in public. Inferno was the first time I felt forced to buy something from AH.

Literally doubled my DPS for 10k, which basically made act 1 inferno quite managable.

Also, by challenging my assumptions, I have currently arrived at a fairly unrefined but workable run-and-gun build.

Smoke screen, marked for death (hatred proc), hatred gen pet, preparation (discipline over time), tentacle elemental arrow, vault. Sharpshooter, archery (Crossbow), tactical advantage.

After many attempts to get a run and gun build working, I cut my hate gen skill for the pet and everything fell into place. Basically, there's a lot of synergy with running. Similar to before, some sort of chakram might be better but they're awkward as **** to use.

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Lockes Ragnarok
05/24/12 10:52:00 PM
#426:


Farming Act I Inferno has been alright, I can survive good enough there. I wouldn't resort to Hell, though. The drops aren't near as good from what I've noticed.

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Lockes Ragnarok
05/24/12 10:52:00 PM
#427:


I dumped all of my dps gear for resistance gear in hopes that I could survive Act II decently, but I'm still failing. How are you progressing through Inferno, Chris? It's going to be a long, tough, grind finishing it off.

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Achromatic
05/24/12 11:04:00 PM
#428:


Monks and Inferno don't get along too well atm.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/24/12 11:05:00 PM
#429:


tell me about it

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Forceful_Dragon
05/25/12 5:29:00 AM
#430:


Awesome thread that clears up some stuff about Wizard DPS

http://d3db.com/blue/thread/3424908246/us


It covers things like whether or not you should use a 2H or a 1H + Offhand.

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GANON1025
05/25/12 6:51:00 AM
#431:


If you get to level 60, do you have to still beat Hell yourself to go into other people's inferno games?

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/25/12 8:52:00 AM
#432:


yes

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Ayuyu
05/25/12 12:22:00 PM
#433:


Oh man that was intense.

Fighting Diablo for the first time without really knowing what he can do with gear I wasn't sure was good and that I couldn't upgrade because no AH, and on Hardcore!?

I almost died in the Realm of Terror but in the end I won, Normal hardcore bested woohoo!

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ninkendo
05/25/12 12:26:00 PM
#434:


yay normal beated

but not on hardcore even though I was keeping track of his journey as I was doing it.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/25/12 1:22:00 PM
#435:


*learns WD is possibly a cannibal*

I can say I am not surrprised

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MarvelousGerbil
05/25/12 1:24:00 PM
#436:


From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #435
*learns WD is possibly a cannibal*

I can say I am not surrprised

Makes sense.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/25/12 2:28:00 PM
#437:


Is there a comprehensive list of where to find conversations? I can't figure out where Haedrig's "The Final Goal" and Tyrael's "Guilt"conversations.

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foolm0ron
05/25/12 2:42:00 PM
#438:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Awesome thread that clears up some stuff about Wizard DPS

http://d3db.com/blue/thread/3424908246/us


It covers things like whether or not you should use a 2H or a 1H + Offhand.


Yeah, on lower difficulties, 2Hand works really well because you can just sit there and spam high-AP skills at a slower rate, and since AP regenerates at a constant rate, you get higher DPS. In Normal and Nightmare right now, AP is definitely my DPS bottleneck. That's why my build focuses on reducing AP cost, so I can spam more. In this case, a 2Hand works the best. But I can imagine in Hell/Inferno, you can't just sit there and blow everything up, even with Diamond Skin, so AP management won't be your biggest issue.

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ninkendo
05/25/12 2:43:00 PM
#439:


and now to wait until it's safe to play public games because I wanted my Nightmare playthrough to be completely co-op

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foolm0ron
05/25/12 3:12:00 PM
#440:


I'll play nightmare with you

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Achromatic
05/25/12 3:47:00 PM
#441:


I got on my big boy horse and beat the SK on Inferno.

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Black_Hydras
05/25/12 4:00:00 PM
#442:


****ing lag. Just lost a 17 DH to a 30 second lag spike, to a single enemy. Gotta love it.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/25/12 4:29:00 PM
#443:


From: foolm0ron | #438
Yeah, on lower difficulties, 2Hand works really well because you can just sit there and spam high-AP skills at a slower rate, and since AP regenerates at a constant rate, you get higher DPS. In Normal and Nightmare right now, AP is definitely my DPS bottleneck. That's why my build focuses on reducing AP cost, so I can spam more. In this case, a 2Hand works the best. But I can imagine in Hell/Inferno, you can't just sit there and blow everything up, even with Diamond Skin, so AP management won't be your biggest issue.




Right I'm starting to feel like teleport and Hydra are going to be a necessary party of a high end Wizard's kit.

But I'm not sure if which Hydra to go with and if I want to drop a passive spot to enhance the hydra. (Give it a chance to stun w/ electricity, slow with arcane, or increased DPS with fire).


I basically got through Nightmare using Disitintgrate + Decreased AP Use on Lightning Shield + Decreased AP Use on Diamond Skin, but I don't think that's going to fly anymore.

Although I did fun stuff vs Diablo.

Arcane Hydra (+ Slow on Arcane damage passive) on right click.
Frost Beam (with reduced cost)

Teleport (with the 2 illusions rune)
AoE Knockback (with stun)
Diamond Skin (increased duration)
Frost Armor (with chill aura)


My DPS was very slow since it relied on frost beam for most of it, but diablo was incredibly easy to kite to death on nightmare. But using the passive that gives you 20 max AP and 2 AP/second means that you can afford to make frost beam your Left click without ever running dry effectively.

But yeah he would run up to me and get slowed by the arcane hydra and beam and chill aura.
Or he would get near me and get pushback/stunned.
Or he would get closer to me and I could TP away.
Or he would actually hit me and usually get frozen.

Also I learned that you can reflect Diablo's scream back with the pushback. I wasn't sure it was a projectile ^_^


But I'm definitely going to be doing a lot more tinkering during my Hell runs to figure out what I think is actually most practical/best.

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foolm0ron
05/25/12 4:48:00 PM
#444:


You can only have 1 Hydra out at a time, so there's no reason to put it on RMB unless you have no other major active skills. And I guess using a passive to boost it would work well, but I just use Arcane Hydra for the AOE and it is godlike. I guess Fire + damage boost passive would be great too.

But yeah I'm thinking Wave of Force will be a major skill for higher difficulties. It is good both offensively and defensively, but it doesn't really add anything to my build right now so I'm not using it.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/25/12 4:51:00 PM
#445:


Hydra makes the act bossfights Trivial.

Well cept maybe Belial. You still need to DODGE the splosions.

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Lopen
05/25/12 5:00:00 PM
#446:


Venom Hydra is easily the best of the first 5 for raw damage. The pools it leaves behind really add up. If you're using the arcane mastery though arcane hydra is probably better overall.

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ninkendo
05/25/12 5:12:00 PM
#447:


well starting Nightmare now and gonna play while Smackdown is on so I'll be on for 2 hours!

if you wanna join up with me please do so

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foolm0ron
05/25/12 5:18:00 PM
#448:


Alright I'm coming

Also does anyone know a good place to see patch notes? I'm spoiled by Valve's wikis for their games

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MarvelousGerbil
05/25/12 5:19:00 PM
#449:


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GANON1025
05/25/12 5:23:00 PM
#450:


You know Kulle was probably the smartest character in the game

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