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JaKyL25
02/21/12 10:29:00 AM
#351:


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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:30:00 AM
#352:


From: muddersmilk | #349
No cool downs, let's do this just like we did at WM XIX, have all the ME right in a row. All 5, increasing in crowd support, only this time, the emotional finale needs to end it.

Big Show-Shaq
DB vs Sheamus (Orton maybe, don't know) WHC
Punk vs Jericho WWE
Rock vs Cena
Trips vs Taker HiaC


Now that will leave the crowd dead. They will be getting tired by the end of Rock vs Cena and will only have anything left for the big moments of Trips vs Taker.




Except it worked at XIX, all the way up to Lesnar Angle, and the only reason that died off some is because they were WAY more hot for Austin Rock.


If WM XIX went

Hogan Vince
Trips Booker
Jericho HBK
Lesnar Angle
Rock Austin

Instead of Jericho Angle
Trips Booker
Hogan Vince
Rock Austin
Angle Lesnar

Then there would have been no problem at all. Same this year, they will get up for Trips Taker, after Rock Cena, they just will, just like they still would have gone nuts for Rock Austin III, even if it followed Lesnar Angle.

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Lopen
02/21/12 10:31:00 AM
#353:


Hogan Vince was the cooldown match there though so you can't really say WMIX even had that formula

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X_Dante_X
02/21/12 10:31:00 AM
#354:


You know, none of this big show injury stuff would have happened if FUTURE KOFI came and warned us about it.

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neonreaper
02/21/12 10:32:00 AM
#355:


Thinking...

Punk v Jericho
HiaC
Sheamus v DB
Rock/Cena

in that order.

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SythaWarrior
02/21/12 10:35:00 AM
#356:


Thinking...

IC Title
Team Johnny vs. Team Teddy
MitB
Punk/Jericho
Beth/Khrama
Sheamus/Amdrag
HiaC
Show/Shaq
Cena/Rock

At least that's my guess on the card+order

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voltch
02/21/12 10:36:00 AM
#357:


thinking playboy match as a buffer.

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:37:00 AM
#358:


From: Lopen | #353
Hogan Vince was the cooldown match there though so you can't really say WMIX even had that formula




Except it was the second most billed match on that card, after only Rock Austin, and I have heard before they were contemplating it actually ME (which would have been insane, but it is Hogan, so sure i guess) You can't have a ME, especially one that built up to be a "cool down" match.

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:38:00 AM
#359:


From: voltch | #357
thinking playboy match as a buffer.




Yeah, if anything was a cool down, it was the Playboy Pillow Fight. But all 5 matches were billed as the ME, and they were right in a row.

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 10:38:00 AM
#360:


Hogan vs. Vince actually got the DVD cover for XIX. ALONE. NO OTHER PEOPLE.

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SythaWarrior
02/21/12 10:39:00 AM
#361:


Altho I also think Foley vs. Ziggler will be on the card too but after Wade going down I'm sure Ziggler is the MitB winner now.

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:39:00 AM
#362:


From: neonreaper | #355
Thinking...

Punk v Jericho
HiaC
Sheamus v DB
Rock/Cena

in that order.




THE HELL???


You have the WWE Title undercarding the World Title when BOTH competitors in the WWE Title match are on different planets compared to the 2 in the WHC match.

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Lopen
02/21/12 10:40:00 AM
#363:


It doesn't matter what billing is or what the idiot management was contemplating I see Vince McMahon vs Hogan that's a cooldown match simply because the in ring "action" is going to be... well, look at who's in the match. I really doubt it got a bigger reaction than Trips/Booker

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:41:00 AM
#364:


From: JaKyL25 | #360
Hogan vs. Vince actually got the DVD cover for XIX. ALONE. NO OTHER PEOPLE.




Yeah, that. It was also only like 15 seconds shorter than the actual Main Event (with much more fanfare before and after the match than Angle Lesnar) this was in no way, shape, or form a cool down.

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voltch
02/21/12 10:42:00 AM
#365:


thinking Rock Vs. Cena curtain jerker and Taker/HHH the dark match.

Then the WWE swerves us by having Jericho Vs. Tanahashi main event with BxB Hulk vs Ziggler on the undercard and Punk Vs. Bryan.

Oh and for tag, Omega/Ibushi vs Kassius/Cesare.

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DpObliVion
02/21/12 10:42:00 AM
#366:


Well they put the Raw EC before the Smackdown EC when the Smackdown EC had such superstars as Khali and Santino. Granted, it turned out that Santino stole the show and the Smackdown EC was much, much better than the Raw EC. But as long as it's not the main event, it isn't too big a deal.


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JaKyL25
02/21/12 10:44:00 AM
#367:


From: Lopen | #363
It doesn't matter what billing is or what the idiot management was contemplating I see Vince McMahon vs Hogan that's a cooldown match simply because the in ring "action" is going to be... well, look at who's in the match. I really doubt it got a bigger reaction than Trips/Booker


Oh it did. They put all their booking energy into that thing and actually pulled it off.

I wish they would put that much effort in for everyone else!

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neonreaper
02/21/12 10:45:00 AM
#368:


EmDubyaSee posted...
From: neonreaper | #355
Thinking...

Punk v Jericho
HiaC
Sheamus v DB
Rock/Cena

in that order.


THE HELL???


You have the WWE Title undercarding the World Title when BOTH competitors in the WWE Title match are on different planets compared to the 2 in the WHC match.


That's my intent! Punk/Jericho won't probably be able to follow the emotions of HiaC. Sheamus/DB doesn't have to. I could see Sheamus/DB being earlier and the Lauranitis/Teddy Long crap being the buffer but I prefer the top matches being at the top.

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:45:00 AM
#369:


From: Lopen | #363
It doesn't matter what billing is or what the idiot management was contemplating I see Vince McMahon vs Hogan that's a cooldown match simply because the in ring "action" is going to be... well, look at who's in the match. I really doubt it got a bigger reaction than Trips/Booker




WAY BIGGER actually. It's not even close.


I would rank the crowd reaction for the 5 MEs like this.


Trips Booker
Lesnar Angle
Jericho-HBK/Vince Hogan
Vince Hogan/Jericho HBK
Rock Austin

Part of that is probably because of how dead the crowd was at the end of Trips Booker, because no one expected Booker to go down from that pedigree after it took Trips like 30 seconds to pin him (Who booked that finish?)

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 10:49:00 AM
#370:


From: neonreaper | #368
EmDubyaSee posted...
From: neonreaper | #355
Thinking...

Punk v Jericho
HiaC
Sheamus v DB
Rock/Cena

in that order.


THE HELL???


You have the WWE Title undercarding the World Title when BOTH competitors in the WWE Title match are on different planets compared to the 2 in the WHC match.


That's my intent! Punk/Jericho won't probably be able to follow the emotions of HiaC. Sheamus/DB doesn't have to. I could see Sheamus/DB being earlier and the Lauranitis/Teddy Long crap being the buffer but I prefer the top matches being at the top.




But no one can follow HiaC. That's my whole point in this topic. There is no match on this card (or hardly any card ever for that matter) that can come after this match. You think people were dead for Orton Trips, that will be NOTHING compared to how dead they will be for any matches that follow 20-0 or 19-1....

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 10:56:00 AM
#371:


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Needs a more intense James Storm.

But MAN that match is gonna be great.

The problem is how do they now sell a PPV between now and then for the same price while flat out stating "it's not as important." <_<

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Lopen
02/21/12 10:58:00 AM
#372:


Wow James Storm looks like uncharismatic indie fed trash. That's really the best picture they could get huh.

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ShatteredElysium
02/21/12 10:58:00 AM
#373:


DpObliVion posted...
Well they put the Raw EC before the Smackdown EC when the Smackdown EC had such superstars as Khali and Santino. Granted, it turned out that Santino stole the show and the Smackdown EC was much, much better than the Raw EC. But as long as it's not the main event, it isn't too big a deal.

Yeah but in fairness that was probably due to the plan to have Show destroy a pod.

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 11:01:00 AM
#374:


From: Lopen | #372
Wow James Storm looks like uncharismatic indie fed trash. That's really the best picture they could get huh.


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voltch
02/21/12 11:02:00 AM
#375:


James Storm's fallen on hard times now that he hasn't got Roode's money.

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Lopen
02/21/12 11:03:00 AM
#376:


Well I'm not down on indie feds or even all their guys but indie fed trash is a real problem that we should all be aware of. Especially said trash.

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voltch
02/21/12 11:04:00 AM
#377:


Necro Butcher looks like he came from a garbage dump.

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 11:04:00 AM
#378:


Better PPV poster:

TNA Lockdown
https://p.twimg.com/AmMsp-oCIAEp4-A.jpg:large
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ROH 10th Anniversary Show
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voltch
02/21/12 11:07:00 AM
#379:


TNA....by far.

Though RoH will prolly be the better show by far.

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 11:09:00 AM
#380:


To be fair to ROH, Final Battle had a GREAT poster

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And the less said about TNA Victory Road's poster, the better. <_<
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neonreaper
02/21/12 11:10:00 AM
#381:


EmDubyaSee posted...
But no one can follow HiaC. That's my whole point in this topic. There is no match on this card (or hardly any card ever for that matter) that can come after this match. You think people were dead for Orton Trips, that will be NOTHING compared to how dead they will be for any matches that follow 20-0 or 19-1....

Rock/Cena is the one match that can because it's such a huge and different atmosphere. Not only that, there isn't much at stake in Rock/Cena.

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edwardsdv
02/21/12 11:11:00 AM
#382:


Storm does NOT have the look. Thats his whole problem. He's otherwise fairly solid.

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EmDubyaSee
02/21/12 11:13:00 AM
#383:


From: neonreaper | #381
EmDubyaSee posted...
But no one can follow HiaC. That's my whole point in this topic. There is no match on this card (or hardly any card ever for that matter) that can come after this match. You think people were dead for Orton Trips, that will be NOTHING compared to how dead they will be for any matches that follow 20-0 or 19-1....

Rock/Cena is the one match that can because it's such a huge and different atmosphere. Not only that, there isn't much at stake in Rock/Cena.




I don't see how that makes it more likely they won't be dead, as opposed to the inverse...


So, you think that after a match where EVERYTHING is on the line, they will get up for a match with NOTHING on the line. From a kayfabe standpoint, only Big Show Shaq has less on the line that night than Rock Cena.

Yeah, the atmosphere for that match will be huge. But sadly, the fans in Miami are only human. I'm not saying they won't want to get up for it, I'm simply saying they won't be able to.

Say Taker gets Tombstoned on the steel steps, and he kicks out..... how does the crowd come back from that, even for Rock-Cena?

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voltch
02/21/12 11:16:00 AM
#384:


Storm is pretty damn good at what he's good at.

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Viktor Vaughn
02/21/12 11:23:00 AM
#385:


From: JaKyL25 | #378
Better PPV poster:

TNA Lockdown
https://p.twimg.com/AmMsp-oCIAEp4-A.jpg:large
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ROH 10th Anniversary Show
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roh would be better if it weren't for cole and o'reilly

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JaKyL25
02/21/12 11:25:00 AM
#386:


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ScareChan
02/21/12 11:28:00 AM
#387:


Cena Rock will close easy. Trips and Taker is about the end of an era and Rock Cena is a torch passing thing. It's logical progress!



Also pretty happy they did go with the Trips can't beat Taker storyline that pushed him into doing it. But Cena really sold his match with Rock last night, even though he basically was 2005 Cena which was basically embracing the hate so....

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KJH
02/21/12 11:34:00 AM
#388:


Everything is on the line every single Wrestlemania Undertaker match. This is the third damn time he's faced HHH at wrestlemania, and the second time in a row. It's not THAT big.

Rock vs Cena is for sure a lot bigger based on name, buildup, and location (as in, The Rock's home state).

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voltch
02/21/12 11:35:00 AM
#389:


FSU fans buy all the tickets and boo dat dirty cane.

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Lopen
02/21/12 11:37:00 AM
#390:


Storm's got the look well enough if he keeps his shades on. The main problem is his eyes.

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voltch
02/21/12 11:38:00 AM
#391:


Needs the hat as well.

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Lopen
02/21/12 11:39:00 AM
#392:


I was about to say the hat since that's his main look the hat and the shades but I don't think the cowboy hat is strictly necessary. His hair is fine when he doesn't over curl it.

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edwardsdv
02/21/12 11:46:00 AM
#393:


From here: http://www.pwinsider.com/article/66058/cena-vs-rock-comments-raw-segment-runs-long-effect-on-rest-of-show.html?p=1

There were quite a few workers backstage popping for John Cena's comments about Dwayne Johnson on Raw, feeling they were a shoot as to how some on the roster feel about Johnson. One talent commented via text (with permission to be quoted under condition of anonymity), writing, "[Johnson] comes in to use WWE to get back the audience he lost doing Disney movies, which is fine but he's been back over a year and name one person he helped make a bigger star since then? No one. He's here for himself, he keeps to himself, and he keeps someone who's actually touring here all year from making a bigger payday at the bigger shows. It's all about making this the "biggest" Mania of all time. OK, then what do we do the rest of the year? Who's been made? You think he took ANY blame for Survivor [Series] not drawing? Of course not, but how do you feud with a guy on the Titantron? Cena nailed the guy dead on tonight. Say anything about HHH, Taker, etc. still being in the top spot but if they were needed to work the road, they would and they would still work their asses off as much as they needed to. Rock is out for Rock and the idea he's here to better anything but his own wallet is the biggest work of 2012."


I don't know bout anyone else but this sounds like Orton to me.

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Viktor Vaughn
02/21/12 11:47:00 AM
#394:


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ScareChan
02/21/12 11:50:00 AM
#395:


I don't think Orton would text that well. I see him using lots of lols and 'u f@g' s

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XIII_rocks
02/21/12 11:51:00 AM
#396:


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I don't think Orton would text that well. I see him using lots of lols and 'u f@g' s


Maybe it was and PWI just...un-text-speak'd it.

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ExThaNemesis
02/21/12 11:53:00 AM
#397:


'rocky is such a f@g lol'

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02/21/12 11:53:00 AM
#398:


JaKyL25 posted...
You Ghana Get Got

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jakyl wins

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DeathChicken
02/21/12 11:56:00 AM
#399:


I wouldn't think Orton would give a damn about remaining anonymous, given how he'll historically mouth off on any subject (like Kelly being a slut)

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Lopen
02/21/12 12:02:00 PM
#400:


It's probably Kevin Nash

He's known for mystery texts and all

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