Board 8 > Leonhart plays lots of Final Fantasy games! [spoilers] [nostalgia] [squall]

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LeonhartFour
12/28/11 12:14:00 PM
#51:


Commander Shepard is such a jerk.

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Lopen
12/28/11 2:49:00 PM
#52:


You should limit all your Squall/Rinoa relationship hints exposition to stuff that doesn't happen in dialogue choice areas. Or pick all the bad ones. Not that I think that would give you an "organic" view on how a normal player would interpret Squall/Rinoa's relationship or lack thereof but it would at least give you less "look hints" fodder. Because I certainly don't recall Squall's thoughts in those areas acting contrary to what you have him say, really. You have him say buzz off and then he whines about her being pushy in his mind. I wouldn't say Squall's thoughts are contrary to his actions very often-- there are times when his thoughts will give you more insight because he's stonewalling in dialogue, but it very rarely contradicts as I recall.

And for the record (I'm pretty sure you know, Leonhart, but other people like Tsunami) I don't think Squall dying is a particularly likely theory to be correct... I just think the story of FFVIII is a lot more interesting and better if you interpret it that way. Also makes a lot of the stupid plot twists more forgivable if you think of them as delusions of a dying man rather than actual stuff happening.

And of course I mention it to annoy Leonhart but that goes without saying.

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LeonhartFour
12/28/11 2:52:00 PM
#53:


I've read a complete script of FFVIII with all dialogue branches before, so I know the gist of what Squall says in any dialogue tree. I just think the "Being nice to Rinoa" scenes are more interesting.

Being mean to Zell is usually hilarious though.

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Lopen
12/28/11 2:59:00 PM
#54:


Yeah but the point is I think you're overestimating how many of your hints are found in the bad choices there. I recall very few. I think the most favorable thought I recall from Squall in those scenes is something along the lines of "fine I'll do this just so she stops bugging me."

My second point is that someone who is fishing around for the relationship to happen (someone who by nature picks the good choices) is going to interpret things more favorably than someone who isn't. Which is what I mean by the view being less "organic." For instance someone looking for hints in the above thought could say Squall cares about what Rinoa thinks and doesn't want her to get sad/annoyed over something trivial but the more realistic interpretation is he just wants her to stop bothering him.

But yeah I guess I'll hold off on going into more till you actually play!

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LeonhartFour
12/28/11 3:03:00 PM
#55:


Well, I'm not saying Squall never gets annoyed with Rinoa because he clearly does, especially at the beginning. He even says as much toward the end of the game. I'm just saying his pushing Rinoa away isn't always because he's annoyed with her and wants her to go away.

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pjbasis
12/28/11 5:32:00 PM
#56:


Play the damn game!

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LeonhartFour
12/29/11 6:06:00 PM
#57:


Okay, we're gonna start this thing tonight.

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most_games_r_ok
12/30/11 12:28:00 PM
#58:


So I thought you were playing this thing Leon, or are you going Haguille on us...

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LeonhartFour
12/30/11 1:14:00 PM
#59:


Sorry, friends! Got caught up with other things last night, including an exciting football game!

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pjbasis
12/30/11 1:15:00 PM
#60:


Leon is going to Haguile us.

The irony.

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Lopen
12/30/11 2:30:00 PM
#61:


Leon pulling the plug on this for FFVIII would be too delicious for me to be disappointed.

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LeonhartFour
12/30/11 3:06:00 PM
#62:


I'm pretty sure I've taken off a couple weeks after every game I've beaten so far!

And with new video games for Christmas, it makes things a bit more complicated! I'm one of those people who doesn't like to play two story heavy games at the same time.

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most_games_r_ok
12/30/11 3:38:00 PM
#63:


Indeed, but new games or not, you should have had plenty of time to at least make a start >_>. And I don't remember you taking this long.

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LeonhartFour
12/31/11 8:22:00 PM
#64:


ME2 is really good.

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Eeeevil Overlord
01/02/12 3:49:00 AM
#65:


Up

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Eeeevil Overlord
01/03/12 5:25:00 PM
#66:


God damnit LeonhartFour!

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LeonhartFour
01/03/12 5:30:00 PM
#67:


I told you! I don't play two story-heavy games at the same time!

Once ME2 is done, FFVIII will commence!

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Eeeevil Overlord
01/03/12 5:49:00 PM
#68:


You should rush through ME2 in an unsatisfying manner to get to a game you've played countless times already, solely for our benefit! Isn't it obvious?

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LeonhartFour
01/03/12 5:50:00 PM
#69:


I'm playing ME2 as fast as I can!

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LeonhartFour
01/05/12 12:42:00 AM
#70:


I guess I should bump this.

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most_games_r_ok
01/05/12 7:15:00 AM
#71:


You should only be bumping this if you have updates!

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catastrophy15
01/05/12 8:15:00 AM
#72:


Oh no Leon's become a Haguile copycat and even worse he hasn't posted anything for FFVIII yet unlike Haguile.

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RyokIes
01/05/12 8:22:00 AM
#73:


you're playing ME2 and didn't even tell me?

how could you!

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LeonhartFour
01/05/12 8:39:00 AM
#74:


From: most_games_r_ok | #071
You should only be bumping this if you have updates!


uhhhh then this topic would purge and I don't want that!

From: RyokIes | #073
you're playing ME2 and didn't even tell me?

how could you!


That's your fault for not reading this topic sooner!

And for missing my "Commander Shepard is a Jerk" topic, too, I guess!

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RyokIes
01/05/12 8:51:00 AM
#75:


aw maaan, i love commander shepard is a jerk topics. I am super upset right now

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LeonhartFour
01/06/12 11:55:00 PM
#76:


Should be finished with ME2 by the end of the weekend, so...!

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RyokIes
01/07/12 12:56:00 PM
#77:


that reminds me that I need to start preparing for a new playthrough of 1 and 2 so I can be all ready for 3!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 3:48:00 PM
#78:


Whoo, ME2 beated!

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most_games_r_ok
01/07/12 5:28:00 PM
#79:


so how long till FFVIII leon

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:28:00 PM
#80:


Should be able to start tomorrow or Monday hopefully!

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:30:00 PM
#81:


I'll write your playthrough summary for you, don't worry

Cool intro video, played some cards, held down X, some annoying people kept saying stuff, I won

There, weeks of effort condensed into one post!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:31:00 PM
#82:


I'm not playing FFIX yet!

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:32:00 PM
#83:


Well duh, if it was FFIX you wouldn't have put that time into cards

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:33:00 PM
#84:


You have to play at least SOME cards in FFIX, whether you like it or not!

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most_games_r_ok
01/07/12 5:39:00 PM
#85:


Psshhh, only 3 matches worth.

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:46:00 PM
#86:


Yeah, but you can't tell me any sane person doesn't play way more than that in FFVIII! I even like the FFIX card game and I still do!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:47:00 PM
#87:


The amount of card playing was not specified!

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:49:00 PM
#88:


It was

A) Substantial enough to merit mention ahead of things like "walked around the world map" and "talked to NPCs", implying it must be fairly large

B) Before "held down X", and which game is it where the card game makes blind auto-attacking win you a good 70%+ of the battles?

My logic is invincible!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:50:00 PM
#89:


From: Panthera | #088
which game is it where the card game makes blind auto-attacking win you a good 70%+ of the battles?


That was never said.

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:51:00 PM
#90:


From: LeonhartFour | #089
That was never said.


From: Panthera | #081
played some cards, held down X,


Yo!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:52:00 PM
#91:


Yeah, I'm still not seeing

From: Panthera | #088
the card game makes blind auto-attacking win you a good 70%+ of the battles?


That

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:52:00 PM
#92:


Because you do realize that listing those two things side by side =/= Logical progression of thoughts or a connection

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:54:00 PM
#93:


From: LeonhartFour | #092
Because you do realize that listing those two things side by side =/= Logical progression of thoughts or a connection


When it's in the sequence of your summary of a playthrough, with the intro coming first, the "I won" part coming last, the annoying dialogue coming in discs 2-4, and the card games preceding the combat, there's definitely a sense of the overall progressing of when you'd be encountering each of these things!

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:56:00 PM
#94:


Except the connection between cards and battles was never established.

You can play cards before you ever have a random battle in FFIX!

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Panthera
01/07/12 5:58:00 PM
#95:


From: LeonhartFour | #094
Except the connection between cards and battles was never established.

You can play cards before you ever have a random battle in FFIX!


Yeah, but you won't because I'm the only person in the universe who doesn't think that game is total ass!

We're putting WAY too much thought into establishing the logic of this <_<

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 5:59:00 PM
#96:


Leebo likes the game and defends it passionately whenever someone bashes it, for whatever the reason.

The point is there was no logic! I've never held down X for prolonged periods of time playing FFVIII!

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most_games_r_ok
01/07/12 5:59:00 PM
#97:


Confession time:

I never play Triple Triad, in fact I despise it.

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Panthera
01/07/12 6:01:00 PM
#98:


From: LeonhartFour | #096
The point is there was no logic! I've never held down X for prolonged periods of time playing FFVIII!


Oh, you're one of those people who just uses Enc-None for the whole game. I tend to do that too, in fairness

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LeonhartFour
01/07/12 6:01:00 PM
#99:


Nope, don't do that either!

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most_games_r_ok
01/07/12 6:02:00 PM
#100:


From: Panthera | Posted: 1/8/2012 2:01:20 AM | #098
Oh, you're one of those people who just uses Enc-None for the whole game. I tend to do that too, in fairness




Great stuff that Diablos.

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