Board 8 > FWA3 Topic 5: Jobbin' to the Purge

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I suppose this would be as good a time as any to have my annual reader survey- this way I can ignore your advice more efficiently with Lethal Lottery coming up! An annotated roster will be forthcoming.

1. Who do you want to see pushed?
2. Who do you want to see depushed or terminated?
3. Any hires you'd like me to try to get?
4. Any teamups, turns, gimmick changes, anything like that?
5. Any specific things you'd like to change about my booking?
6. My writing?
7. My formatting?
8. When I inevitably get fired about a year from now, do you want me to call it a game and move on? Try to take over somebody else? Convert it into a pure watcher game?
9. Any thoughts on what I should do for the next game?
10. Anything else?

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MAIN EVENT

Abyss
Apparently sneaked back into the ME, which is why I backed out of having him take the US title off Slater.

AJ Styles
Will probably be a major focal point for a long time if this loyalty thing keeps working out, although once he drops the belt he will probably fade into the background a bit like Eddie is currently doing.

Cody Rhodes
Is apparently pretty over. o_O Won't leapfrog Slater to get into The Five, but I've been quite impressed so far.

The Truth
I am pleased, but I need more credible challengers before I can put the belt on a heel.

Eddie Guerrero
Trying to elevate some of my other guys with him.

John Morrison
Hoping to get Matthews over this way...failing that, I have an excellent second-tier ME.

Robert Gibson
With Morton skipping Impact, Gibson looks to take on a singles "push" and the coveted jobber to the stars role.

Heath Slater
Refused to get over for a while, and now he's suddenly zipping up the ladder. Not officially in The Five, but might as well be.


UPPER MIDCARD

Rick Martel
Is gonna form Strike Force for a much needed credible face team, but also might get a singles push if my ME scene gets hit badly.

Colt Cabana
He was in the ME for a while, but seems to have fallen off a bit. He'll be back if I have anything to say about it, despite my having no idea how to right him.

Finlay
Might be too over to hang on to the title too long. Regrettably Slater shot past the tag division level, or they could have an awesome run.

Ricky Morton
Del Rio'D

Eddie Edwards
Keeps ping-ponging from the mid to near-ME. Might break up the Dire Wolves to push him on his own.

Ted Dibiase Jr.
KING OF THE RING INCOMING

Marcus Cor Von
At least he can promo.

Ron Simmons
Has been pretty disappointing.

MIDCARD

Scotty Riggs
Kinda sucks with Buff gone.

Yoshihiro Tajiri
Finally back to full midcard! Needs a push.

Jimmy Garvin and Terry Gordy
I owe Garvin a title of some sort, but he's getting toughness'd in a few months anyway.

Paul London
Is at an all-time low on the card. Gotta get him back in the mix.

Papa Shango
Has nothing to do now. Might switch him over to the Godfather.

Blackjacks Mulligan and Lanza
Was hoping that debut would go a bit better, but we shall carry on.

Tito Santana
Mainly intended as a tag partner for Martel, but might also double as a midcard anchor.

Afa and Sika (LMC)
I was...not expecting a debut match that good.

Meng and Barbarian (Opener)
Back to jobbin' now that I have a halfway decent tag division.

Sgt. Slaughter
Probably never doing anything of particular note, but a nice midcard workhorse to have.


LOWER MIDCARD

Mike Awesome
Is suddenly the most important part of Team ECW.

Billy Kidman
Refuses to get out of LMC, no matter how much I expose him and how well he does.

Bubba Ray Dudley
Probably not gonna get the singles push he did last time. :\

Taka Michinoku
I am up to my ears in talented undercard guys, but I am still optimistic.

D-Von Dudley
XFD demanding a main event title

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OPENERS

Jesse Barr- Not even a lackey push
Sabu- Del Rio'D and fail'D.
Joey Matthews- Get back over dammit

JOBBERS

Kenny Omega- Will get toughness'd before too long, or he'd be getting more screen time.
Frankie Kazarian- Another talented jobber.
Jay Swick- It's too bad I'm terrible at developing talent.

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From: Tom Bombadil | #101
2. Who do you want to see depushed or terminated?

tom

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I don't think you can get depushed farther than faceless dark match ref-in-training

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we can try

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Push your entire lower midcard, Sabu, The Model, Ted Dibiase, Finlay, Eddie, AJ (I realize the last two are already ME but fading them into the background is a bad idea)
Depush Robert Gibson, Cody Rhodes, Eddie Edwards, Ricky Morton, the Blackjacks, Garvin and Gordy, Riggs

imhhhho

I'll uh think on the rest.

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I thought people liked the wolves :\

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put the belt on slater

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1. Who do you want to see pushed?

Heathulhu, Tajiri, Cody Rhodes, Rick Martel, AJ

2. Who do you want to see depushed or terminated?

Scotty Riggs, Ron Simmons, Robert Gibson, Abyss

3. Any hires?

Just buy out Danta already and get Sheamus.

8. When I inevitably get fired about a year from now, do you want me to call it a game and move on? Try to take over somebody else? Convert it into a pure watcher game?

Try taking over or just watch for awhile. Your call.

9. Any thoughts on what I should do for the next game?

I kind of like what we did this time, but with a different roster. A good modern pack would be nice.

I liked the idea talked about doing one of those projects where we can all vote on what happens and run a show together.

Otherwise the same thing with a modern roster would be good, though I would have to brush up on some wrestlers.

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modern roster would be cool...though id be horribly tempted to go the dante route...

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You don't actually need to tell me to depush Gibson and Riggs. >_> Riggs is going to job indefinitely and probably be allowed to run out his contract unless Buff comes back or Riggs suddenly becomes competent or we just get raided that badly. Gibson's a bit more talented and useful both for developing younger guys and getting a cheap poI p by bringing in Morton for PPV's, but he's still unlikely to ever amount to more than a Snukatype jobber to the stars.

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1. Who do you want to see pushed?
Push Truth and Heath to the moon, dont neglect Eddie and AJ, promote AByss to jobber to the stars.

2. Who do you want to see depushed or terminated?
firethe DUDLEYZ(though you were anyway) depush Teddy

3. Any hires you'd like me to try to get?

I think your fed would do well to collect actual tag teams, they seem to be your strength. Maybe grab the bushwhackers or like pick up Curt hawkins and Zack Ryder or JTG and Shad or hell assemble Demoliton.

Demolition is the best of those ideas. Maybe team up Ron Simmons and Papa Shango as the nation of domination?

4. Any teamups, turns, gimmick changes, anything like that?


5. Any specific things you'd like to change about my booking?
6. My writing?
Solid.
7. My formatting?
Solid. I like to be kept informed of everyones title changes.
8. When I inevitably get fired about a year from now, do you want me to call it a game and move on? Try to take over somebody else? Convert it into a pure watcher game?
Take over someone else.
9. Any thoughts on what I should do for the next game?
Like this with a modern mod (orthe over 9000 mod)
10. Anything else?
Try notto go out of business.

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We ain't in danger of going under any time soon. I think we've about plateaued on popularity and our roster will probably continue slowly declining from raids, but we're still making about 250-450k every month :D

Demolition is surprisingly bad, but I might bring them in anyway. Cryme Tyme could probably work as a jobber team I suppose...I thought everybody hated the Bushwhackers when I had them. >_> Blackjacks/Strike Force/Priceless/Samoans were the best teams I could find, but I suppose it couldn't hurt to look again. And Ryder would be UMC by now if I had my way, but owner goals. :\

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Get The Nasty Boys + Public Enemy HARDCORE TAG DIVISION

Seriously though I think I'd prefer The Nasty boys to most of the tag teams you have now <_<. I think we just don't agree on Tag Teams in general though-- like I'd have hired at least 10 tag teams before getting to most of the ones you have.

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Well, I'm also looking hard at stats, and availability and tag experience is also pretty limiting. The only one of the new teams I particularly know is Priceless, and I could name a buuuunch of teams I like better, but they're all either off the board for contract/popularity/schedule/toughness reasons, have no tag experience set, are too unpopular to ever have a chance of being not jobbers, or friggin' suck. Usually a combination of the above. I'm going through a search of pretty much everybody I have any reasonable chance of hiring, and yup, I pretty much already got the cream of the tag crop.

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...with that said, "but he's not popular and will be a jobber for his entire run even if I try to push him" doesn't seem to hold much weight for me

couple more teams hopefully incoming >_>

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Nasty Boys don't even have terrible stats

C+ Brawl!

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i've noticed that in many wrestling sims lots of really bad tall/fat guys get passable brawling stats for basically no reason

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Nasties aren't really that bad. In their prime they had some passable matches.

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yeah I know

It just sort of sparked that thought is all

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like, Mason Ryan has 72 brawl in EWR

how can they begin to justify that

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FWA's big dudes usually have D+ Brawl everything else E or F

Which is actually fair I think. Most dudes who don't suck at something have C or better.

I just think the some of the guys who are actually kinda skilled in comparison to the fatties like MVP or Disco or Glacier got hosed by only having Ds.

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well in my game one's retired and the other has D+ brawl and worse stats elsewhere so

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EWR seems to be a bit less accurate in general I think, yeah. Like Austin is basically the same guy as Kevin Nash in it which is kinda dumb.

In this game though the good brawlers will have Bs or As, and guys like Kevin Nash have a D+, which is not totally awful but certainly not anything resembling good.

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i think the problems start when you try to quantify wrestling skill in terms of numbers

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Yeah we should use * ratings am I right

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D+ is maybe not AWFUL but it is pretty bad especially when it's one of your strong suits

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D+ can be carried to an A match which is good enough for me tbqh. It's only if your whole roster is loaded with those guys that it starts to matter.

Honestly the basics/performance skills probably matter more anyway but who knows.

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From: X_Dante_X | #050
Tim Times of Trouble gets C+
-ME: Fatu d. Slater, C+

tom how did we let tim get slater

and more importantly why did we let him job slater

XD

i'm not even playing and tom's world champ is still a jobber in my megafed

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still not world champ

Also I can barely get a B+ match with GOOD people so I can't envision it ever happening with crappy brawlers. Depends somewhat on the product though, I suppose- a fed like Boko's could thrive for years off something like Orton/Hogan while a fed like mine would tank pretty bad. See also: FWA:R Andre vs. FWA3 Andre.

That and my entire roster is indeed loaded with those guys as they're about all that's left

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Showcase gets A (ME/MotN: HBK d. Lesnar, A)

Boko signs Ray Stevens, Lethal

Boko Ring Warriors gets B (ME/MotN: Kane d. RVD to retain, B+)

Lineas de Batalla gets B+ (ME/MotN: Konnan/Canek d. Mexicools, B+)

SlamZone gets B+ (ME/MotN: Malenko d. Warrior, B+)

Maniac Wrestling gets B- (ME/MotN: Joe/Funaki d. Cabana/Animal, B)

Doane too loyal to go to Dante from CPU

Modern Day Warriors gets C+
-ME/MotN: Dibiase d. Morrison, B-
-Glacier d. Windham, Helms for the vacant Legends title

Lopen gets Dick Murdoch, Jacques Rougeau

Dante gets Buff

Flame Grilled TV gets A (ME/MotN: Storm d. Rock, A)

Rage gets B (ME/MotN: Midnight Express d. Finlay/Santana, B)

Tim FreeFall gets C+
-ME/MotN: Biff Wellington d. Jarrett for the triple crown, B-

High Velocity gets C+ (ME/MotN: Dibiase d. Matthews, C+)

Icon The Spanish Tickler gets C (ME/MotN: Nigel d. Alex Shane to retain, C)

go my horribly bloated roster

Guerra Extrema gets B (ME/MotN: Mascaras d. Perro, Mistico to retain, B)

Carnage gets B (ME/MotN: Liger d. Benoit, Marufuji, Nakajima to retain, B)

Coffee Wild West Wrangle gets B
-ME: Hawk/Matt d. Rikishi/Saturn, B-
-MotN: Gibson/Eaton d. Too Cool, B
-Reckless Youth/Yang (The Suffering) d. Ryder/Candido for the vacant tag titles

Zhang to turn Taker face

Lock Up T gets C+ (ME: Aries/E. Edwards/Ishimori d. Kidman/Evans/Stryker, C+; MotN: Moore d. Taylor, B- trololo)

Fight Club gets C+ (ME: Cody d. X-Pac, C+; MotN: Otunga d. Book, B+)

eddv Hagen's Vintage Brawl gets A (ME/MotN: Hogan d. HBK to retain, A)

Ken Ring Wars gets B+ (ME: Shelton d. Lashley, B+; MotN: Bockwinkel d. Tazz, A)

Demolition gets B+
-ME/MotN: Eaton d. Magnum, Danielson to retain, A
-Generation NEXT d. The Suffering for the tag titles

Dante Weekly gets C+
-ME/MotN: Ox d. Buff, B-
-State of Mind d. Lobsterheads for the tayble choir championship

Ken to turn Shelton heel

Decimation gets A* (ME/MotN: Hogan d. Piper, HBK, Hansen to retain, A)

eddv rises to Global

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EWR stat spreads suck, the earlier you go the more unreliable it gets, i mean christian with a 95/95/95/95 spread? like really? Even edge has a 96/80/80/80 spread. But my god Shelton benjamin in Developmental, he comes out of it with 80 charisma and 90s spread.

overall though, the most broken guy in EWR history is Kurt Angle, he should not have three 100 stats.

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The mod I played with usually (the "current" mode from the EWRBattleground forums) definitely didn't have those ridiculous stats.

Kurt had 78/53/85/94
Christian had 72/59/73/93
Edge had 82/44/68/96

... hell at least MVP got his cred here. 71/40/62/86

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On the other hand I kinda miss how EWR mods bork 80% of the wrestlers (and the other 20% can just dev) after playing this kinda harsh mod for a while.

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i feel like Chris hero is the weirdest guy from update to update, cos while his base technical skills are sound he's gone from 50 charisma to as high as 95, also i never get why some guys as they get older see a decrease in their charisma skills.

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ewr is really easy to get into, but really really shallow as far what you're able to do as far as booking and whatnot

tew is incredibly deep and offers mountains of customization, but is also really overwhelming and daunting

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So how many wrestlers over the recommended amount do you have, Tom? I'll be disappointed if it's less than 15.

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I just wish I could combine my TEW ability to watch stuff and have intricate statz and control with my EWR ability to not suck terribly

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Yup

Once you really break through that wall of OH GOD WHY IS THERE SO MUCH CRAP HERE though it's kinda hard to go back to EWR I think. I don't think I'll ever play it again.

TEW2010 helped a lot with that. Don't think I would've been able to get into TEW2005.

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what i really hate about EWR is the lack of 6 man match options and no way to have threeway angles/feuds or one man vs a stable.

TEW lacks an auto-booking function, like soccer sims let you auto-set tactics which you can the further edit, TEW with autobook a show and then you using storylines features to edit would make it easier.

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EDDV GLOBAL

TIme for you all to tremble in fear of my might.

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Yup

Once you really break through that wall of OH GOD WHY IS THERE SO MUCH CRAP HERE though it's kinda hard to go back to EWR I think. I don't think I'll ever play it again.

TEW2010 helped a lot with that. Don't think I would've been able to get into TEW2005.

Those are my thoughts exactly...heck, I even tried to get into '05 and failed. Sometimes I'm tempted to go back to EWR for a change of pace, but then I think about playing without being able to see results and champs and being able to get everybody and my fed over without even really trying and go ehhhhhhhhhhh

The mere mention of autobook on the GDS forums is enough to start a flame war. It's kinda great. I kinda agree that it'd be a nice option to have, whether or not I'd really use it, but the prevailing opinion is IT IS A BOOKING SIM WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO NOT BOOK

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Tom you're small time:



Now I just need to actually, you know, book a show or two <_<

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05 lacks a drag an drop, making booking everything such a chore, but apparently War manages to play it normally.

You know I like booking stuff, but all the time settings really screw me over.

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I am not worthy.

ibsemi

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you people and boated rosters

STC did just fine with a crew of like 12 in FWA2

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you have like 3 dudes on your roster right now!

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