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DundiesAward posted...

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1284871846995910656

My fear is that governor Ducey and the general public will declare victory again too early. We need to keep the mask mandates in place for at least another couple months (or ideally until there's a vaccine).

CobraGT posted...

Do hospitals wait for the tests to come back before admitting?

I know at least many of the hospitals are doing rapid tests on every patient that gets admitted

soulunison2 posted...

i hear that's because testing can't keep up with cases

Hospitalizations seem to have plateaued too which wouldn't be explained by the inability to keep up with testing. So that gives me a little bit of hope. Mask wearing has increased a ton since they were mandated a few weeks back, so that may have helped.

Cases and hospitalizations in Arizona seem to have plateaued, but still very high. Hopefully things will start to get better in the coming weeks.

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Remember the barista who refused to serve a lady at Starbucks for not wearing a mask, and then had $100,000 raised for him on the internet? Well, here's the lady's response:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/507498-woman-wants-half-the-100k-raised-for-starbucks-barista-after

In an interview with local outlet Fox 4 News, Gilles said she wants to sue for half of the funds donated to Guiterrez.

It was discrimination and everybody is OK with it and enabling and rewarding that behavior, said Gilles.

I feel like I need the apology. Ive been discriminated against, Im the one whos sick, she said.
Gilles said she was experiencing symptoms that prevented her from wearing a mask.

One of them I get shortness of breath, dizziness and it messes with the heartbeat. And I do have asthma as well, and I do get mask-acne, she said. So theres several things going on and not only that but it doesnt even work.

She provided the outlet with two documents she said proves her medical exemption from the face covering mandate.
One document was the results from a 2016 pelvic exam which listed probable exophytic fibroid arising from the anterior wall of the uterus measuring 2.9 cm size, and simple 2.5 cm left ovarian cyst.
The other paper was a handwritten note from the letterhead of a local chiropractor who she asked not to be named, according to the outlet.
The note reportedly reads, Amber has underlying breath conditions that prevent her from wearing a mask or any type of facial covering whatsoever. Please contact me if have any questions.
The chiropractor told Fox 4 that they would not discuss the situation.

LMAO at her trying to use a fibroid and a simple ovarian cyst as reasons not to wear a mask (both of those things are harmless). And then using a note from a chiropractor.

DarkRoast posted...

But weirdly only in states like Florida and Texas, with highly publicized reopening and zero mask requirements.

Not to mention places like New York and Chicago that saw some of the largest protests didn't get big spikes. The argument that the protests are the main reason for the spikes is f***ing stupid and has been proved wrong.

Da f*** kinda weird fetish s*** is this TC?

Yes, multiple. Tbh I'm way more worried about getting the virus from my job (I work at a hospital) than getting it from a hair salon. My hair gets really messy after a few weeks so I've just been getting it cut.

Still way better than Trump

Like it sounds weird af when someone says it in real life

Fact of the matter is the biggest spikes are occuring in the states that opened up early, not the states that had the biggest protests. That should tell you something.

kingdrake2 posted...

it's getting bad: 375 cases in oregon. 1 death

I wish my state only had 375 cases

ThunderTrain posted...

Imagine thinking Trump and Biden are the same. That's fucking laughable. Even if Biden isn't all there he is still ten thousand times better than Trump.

This. A cardboard box would be a better president than Trump. Even if Biden doesn't implement a super progressive agenda, he's not going to actively make things worse on a daily basis like Trump does. Getting him out of office should be the biggest priority.

lurk posted...

and even then...

it wont be 100 percent effective. Nor will everyone take it.

fauci is worried about it

This is true. The antivaxxers and people who are skeptical of such a quickly made vaccine may prevent us from reaching herd immunity. However, if the vaccine is effective in the majority of people, then at least those of us who get vaccinated will (probably) be protected.

MuayThai85 posted...

We might never find one. No coronavirus has ever had a successful vaccine made for it.

The Moderna, Pfifer, and Oxford vaccines have shown pretty good results in the early trials in terms of antibody production and safety. I'm cautiously optimistic that one or more of them will be approved by the end of 2020 or early 2021. When the vaccine will be widely available though is a whole different question, producing hundreds of millions to billions of a vaccine won't happen overnight.

Dr. Fauci's statements are the worst case scenario. He's not saying it's likely, just that we can't rule it out. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

I've been pulled over 4 times and gotten 0 tickets.

1) Cop tried to give me a speeding ticket, but couldn't get his ticket printer to work
2) Cop noticed I was holding my phone (I was talking on speaker), let me off with a warning
3) Cop pulled me over for speeding, let me off with a warning
4) Cop pulled me over for suspected DUI (I was tired and driving on a pretty scary road that I wasn't familiar with, so I was going extra slow). I passed the field sobriety tests and he let me go

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20477724.2020.1785782

Apparently the mortality rate of COVID has gone way down at this hospital in Italy. Of course it's just one hospital in Italy so it may or may not actually mean anything to those of us in the US. But comparing the number of new cases in the US to the number of deaths over time I do think the mortality rate has gone down here as well. We'll probably see some sort of spike in deaths due to the huge increase in cases, but if the mortality rate really has gone down it might not be as bad as people expect.

Still, it's very important to continue wearing masks and social distancing. Hospitals reaching capacity = more people dying.

Takuya Lee posted...

Has Arizona dine anything to slow it down? Texas and Florida have barely done anything but something is better than nothing.

The more populated areas mandated masks about a week ago. Other than that no. Hoping that will slow down the spread some, we'll see in the next few weeks.

MT_TRAEH posted...

i thought we reached the peak weeks ago, multiple times too

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Just look at the "new cases" graph. We hit a peak in mid/late April, then cases started to decline, and now we're back up again to where we were before. Former hotspots like New York, New Jersey, and Illinois have seen numbers go way down while states like California, Texas, Arizona, and Florida have had huge spikes driving this peak.

Takuya Lee posted...

Maybe? I can't see states like Florida or Texas doing it, but I can see more requiring them.

Maricopa County (most populous county in Arizona where Phoenix and Scottsdale are) is currently requiring masks as of about a week ago. Will be interesting to see if that slows down the numbers in AZ.

AlephZero posted...

Just wait two weeks, we'll be at 3000 deaths a day by the end of June.

That's in 5 days. I HIGHLY doubt this. We've been under 1000 daily deaths for the last few weeks.

That being said, cases are rising and we should continue to take the virus seriously.

REMercsChamp posted...

Nah man. Hospitals are reaching capacity in some places. Texas, Florida is shitting their pants right now begging people not to act like dumb fucks.

Anyway, I'm In Canada where the cases are much lower, so I'm not scared to go outside but I'm still not flaunting social distancing rules etc and still being responsible with distancing, not crowding in groups, hand washing, social circles, wearing a mask where you can't distance indoors etc.

Compare this to the states where the cases are growing exponentially, hospitals are being overrun and people still aren't following public health advice.

This. I work at a hospital in a state with higher numbers right now, and I can tell you for a fact it's getting worse.

PatrickMahomes posted...

The cases increasing shouldn't really be a surprise; George Floyd was murdered on 5/25, with protests heating up shortly thereafter. Those following 2-3 weekends were jam packed with people all across the country standing shoulder to shoulder ignoring all the distancing. Combine that with the fact that a vast majority of those protesting were in the younger age ranges, it makes sense that the death rate hasn't increased in parallel to the new case rate.

Why are people blaming the protests? The largest protests occurred in blue states like New York and Illinois but the spikes are occurring in primarily red states (California being the only exception) where there was less protesting. It has less to do with that and much more to do with the reopenings.

MabusIncarnate posted...

No, absolutely not. Don't even consider it.

It never, ever works out going back to what failed before. There's nothing to salvage. Cut contact and move forward. You won't see what's ahead if you keep looking behind your back. That part of your life is over, there's no need to revisit.

The problem last time was that it was looking like several years of long distance. Whereas now it would just be 2, which seems much more manageable to me. But I do get your point. I guess part of the reason I'm having these thoughts is because I've been dating quite a bit since then and haven't been able to develop as strong of a connection with other girls as I had with her.

_Sazando_ posted...

this is probably a dumb question is there a site that can exclude specific places when looking at covid 19 data over the last few months? people say that the cases in the u.s. are going down but isn't that mainly because the cases in the tristate area are going down but everywhere else is going up?

The reason total US cases has remained fairly steady is because cases have dropped quite a bit in former hotspots like the Northeast and Illinois. At the same time they're increasing in several states (most notably California, Arizona, North Carolina, Texas, and Florida).

DundiesAward posted...

United States had its lowest daily death total since March 26th

Reported deaths are always lowest on Sundays. So I'm not reading into that too much. However, it does seem like deaths have decreased at a greater proportion compared to number of cases. Is it possible that the virus really has weakened a bit as some have speculated? Maybe just wishful thinking but that would be great if it were the case.

boxington posted...

on one hand, I want to say no, especially since she has a boyfriend. and even if things did work out, you might put the burden of guilt on her for leaving him for you.

Yeah, the main reason I'm hesitant is that if she were to date me again and it didn't work out, I'd feel terrible for ruining her other relationship. And the guy she's dating probably doesn't deserve that. On the other hand, it doesn't sound like their relationship is the healthiest if she's still calling me for support.

Basically I ended things with her a couple years back because long distance became a factor. Now I find myself missing her and thinking that maybe I shouldn't have ended things. If I were to date her again, distance would still be a factor, probably for 2 years.

Here's the kicker: She has a boyfriend who she's been dating for about a year and a half. However, she still talks to me and every now and then she'll show signs that she still has feelings. She also calls me for comfort when she gets into a fight with her boyfriend and contemplates breaking up with him when this happens. I feel like if I told her my feelings, I'd have a pretty decent shot of getting her back eventually. Would that be a s***ty thing to do?

IMO the way Game of Thrones ends is actually pretty good. But the final season definitely feels rushed. Still an amazing show overall.

Tired-Insomniac posted...

I know it lists deaths and recoveries, but are those part of that 2,000,000 figure? Or is it 2,000,000+ active cases?

It's total cases. Active cases is a little over a million.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

US is hitting 2 million cases tomorrow.

Already happened
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Wii_Shaker posted...

Second peak?

Techincally more accurate. Although several parts of the country never even reached a first peak.

The first wave never ended.

NeonOctopus posted...

s***ty

yes

It's a constant cycle. I'll go on multiple dates with a girl, but then I'll start to really question whether she's the one. Eventually my uncertainty will lead to me breaking things off because I don't want to continue leading her on. Idk if it's because my standards for a relationship are too high, or if I'm just too afraid of commitment and don't want to give up the single life. I'm guessing it's probably a little bit of both. But I know that I eventaully want to get married and start a family. Ughhh

Awesome posted...

1,500 reported today already, illinois up also, cal, texas, florida and mass are leading growth, this is extremely bad.

Where are you getting those statistics from? Illinois and Mass are doing pretty well and numbers are going down in those states.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/illinois/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/massachusetts/
https://www.axios.com/state-by-state-coronavirus-hospitalizations-may-964d0dd3-ced6-4df2-8a80-03764355b291.html

Awesome posted...

Cases going up in some states, very bad.

Cases are going up scary fast in Arizona, two weeks after the state reopened

Curious what people think

I barely notice the taste difference tbh. Might as well go for the healthier one, even if the difference is only very slight.

Huge conflict? Yes. Second Civil War? No.

SuperMariano3 posted...

Just do it. It takes 5 seconds and your friends/family won't think you are racist. It doesn't really do anything but I hadn't said anything about George Floyd all week now Im covered.

F*** it, I just sold out and did it. Oh well, I guess this is (very very verrrry slightly) better than doing nothing.

Most of the protesters were outdoors and wearing masks. I don't think any spikes from this will be as bad as spikes from reopening in general.

Normally I don't participate in social media trends like this, where you post something to show support without actually helping in a tangible way. But it seems like EVERYONE is doing this, to the point where I feel like it looks weird that I didn't.

Nice to see people on both sides coming together for once on an isuse. It's pretty much just the alt-righters and racists who continue to oppose BLM.

Awesome posted...

Cases up in texas, mass and cal

They're not actually up in Massachusetts. Yesterday MA retrospectively added in several "likely" cases, including people with symptoms consistent with COVID and people with positive antibody tests. That's why it looks like there was a massive spike yesterday when there really wasn't. But yeah, numbers in Texas have been gradually increasing while in CA they've remained pretty steady. Arizona looks like it may be spiking quite a bit.

CreepySmile posted...

Taken together with prior research showing that extreme protest actions can be effective for applying pressure to institutions

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The thing is, there's no specific, tangible thing the riots are trying to get the government to do. It's not as simple as getting the government to pass a law, give a group the right to vote, etc. This is a really deep-rooted problem in our system that the government can't instantly make go away, no matter how much pressure there is. Racist piece of s*** cops will continue to be racist piece of s*** cops despite the riots, and incidents like this will most likely continue to happen, unfortunately. So I'm not sure rioting will accomplish much other than increase animosity.

I'd love to be wrong and see things actually change because of these riots. I just don't know how that would happen.

Blue_School posted...

Riots = Change

Doubtful. The riots will end and these incidents will continue to happen, unfortunately. It's such a deep systemic problem in our country. Racist cops will continue to be racist.

Pretty sure the # recovered is always underreported. So many people are probably lost to follow up and are never recorded as recovered. Still, we need the # of new cases to go down more before we can say there's meaningful progress.