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DarkTransient posted...

One thing I've been very strongly considering is doing away with levels altogether, to avoid any perception of "oh I need to grind more" - because with the difficulty as it is, the game can easily come across this way otherwise.

one thing you could do is give all enemies a "level" as well, and if you're above that level when you battle them they give no drops/exp. or maybe they just don't spawn at all, to streamline things even more.

Means you still have space for a certain number of random encounters and space for grinding to a certain extent but it cannot just be used to solve any issues the player runs into
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xkcd
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

What's the biggest lie they've told iyo

that the moon exists
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extremely big nay

forget going for more encounters than the standard amount, I specifically try to get fewer encounters than the standard amount
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pretty sure that counts as turn 2 not 3
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Sunhawk posted...

How can people just be okay with being casual gamers?

lol

how can you be ok with not being more of a hardcore gamer than you currently are?
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Balrog0 posted...

So what's a game that expects a player to have imagination and situational awareness, IYO? (combined with mastery of mechanics and progressive learning, I suppose)

celeste, dustforce, RTS played at high level... I've heard people I trust say this about copy kitty but I haven't played it myself. Probably a decent number of the high difficulty puzzle games like snakebird or stephen's sausage roll.

I'd even put some super metroid / SMW romhacks in there if you think of them as an extension/continuation of the original game
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hmm

well it teaches you walljumping, which is used for absolutely nothing, and it teaches you shinesparks whcih are used for maybe like 4-5 items (all optional). demo movie on title also has crystal flash (a neat way to restore all your health midfight) and infinite bomb jumps but none of those are really expected in any way either and the game gives you so much health you don't need to heal midfight anyways. Then there's a lot of non-tutorialized mechanics which also aren't used.

I guess they enable a fair bit of sequence breaking, which can be a reward of sorts, but I was talking less about what the player can do and more about what the game expects you do to. Which maybe could be the sequence breaks, I dunno for sure since I can't read the devs' minds, but I sorta doubt it
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Romulox28 posted...

my problem with games these days isnt difficulty, it's challenge. if that makes sense.

most games dont have a difficulty problem because you can usually just put the game on some kind of hard mode and it's obviously tougher. you die faster, enemies do more damage, you lose UI elements, whatever.

the problem is that most games i feel are not designed to make a challenge for the player. they dont expect you to learn some new mechanic and then master it, apply skills you learned during the game, learn from mistakes and use that knowledge going forward in encounters, etc.

big agreement here

many games do not really expand on the implications of their base mechanics. they don't push them anywhere. they don't expect mastery of mechanics and being able to combine them for benefit. And when they do, it's like the game pushes it all together instead of expecting the players to have imagination or awareness of the situation.. it gives you this sort of feeling that even when playing on a harder difficulty the game still thinks you're stupid

that said, I don't think this is necessarily a problem of games today but just the more mainstream end of gaming in general. Many of the most popular classic games fall into this as well: SMB3, super metroid, SMW, chrono trigger, mario 64, oot, and probably countless other games that are not coming to mind atm also do this
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giant siivagunner album released, it's like 440ish songs

https://files.catbox.moe/e6lt52.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/ubza4v.mp3

they've got some really good track names too
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Normally I would say no but the results of my previous attempts to finally quit this place once and for all say otherwise
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eggcorn posted...

What do you think about checkpoints?

frequent checkpoints with small stretches of high intensity/difficulty focused challenges is significantly better than spread out endurance checkpoints. and under no circumstances should you get sent back to a checkpoint earlier than the one you're previously at (well, short of something like a "return to earlier checkpoints" menu option but I'm mostly thinking like, megaman games here)

basically I think lives and non-permanent checkpoints are both essentially holdovers from making games arcade-y that don't really have much of a place in modern gaming
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hmm

I think this is actually one of the biggest flaws with a lot of older games so I'm not sure I want it to come back in modern game form. You know, things like smb1 or ninja gaiden or etc where if you lose all your lives you have to start the entire game over
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LinksLiege posted...

It might sound like I'm bashing the game, but I'm not. I adore it. This is the kind of shit that I love. This game is basically a massive test of your attention to detail - get one single thing wrong, and you're screwed until you go back to check it again. Not only that but the worldbuilding is spectacular; Riven is such an interesting place to be.

Have you heard of / played la-mulana? it's a 2D platforming(?) sort of game where you're an archeologist exploring this giant labyrinth of interconnected ruins. I have't played Riven so I dunno how apt the comparison is but these sentences really sound like something I'd say about la mulana too
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final fantasy and dragon quest were the first two extremely obvious ones I had in my mind without really thinking of the third, so now that they're in all options I'm kind of stuck <_<

I guess I'll say pokemon for third
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isn't a lot of the game locked though until you solve a few things? I only remember like 7-8 distinct screens

I dunno how I even played it for that long
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LinksLiege posted...

Myst

I played this game for a really long time when I was like 5 or 6 and looking back I'm not sure I ever even solved a single puzzle
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yeah but would you say they're better because they don't? most of the time that just makes me frustrated but here it felt so fitting for the atmosphere and concept of the game that it would almost be wrong to be any other way
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Cultist Simulator
Some weird newish game I playeda few weeks ago. It's clearly inspired by lovecraft and other "secrets man was not meant to know" type settings. You're just some guy who gets in a little too deep, founds a cult, and starts trying to unravel the mysteries of the arcane. Mostly sticks in my mind because of one really gutsy decision by the devs: it has no tutorial at all. You're dumped into this game full of bizarre and complex interactions between different pieces with basically no explanation to what anything does or how anything works. You'll inevitably die a few times trying to just figure out what is going on or what your goal even is. But I think it fits perfectly here, because as your playfield gets more and more cluttered with books and lore and accomplices, you're scrambling for a way to earn money just so you don't die, and you're lost in a big sea of information, you really do feel like that lone cultist guy who just got way in over his head with things too complex for any one person to comprehend.

Anyone else ever play games that did something like this where most people would consider it bad (like in this case, not explaining things), but were better off for it?
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Cheater87 posted...

Don't games have to be rated in the UK for release?

I don't think so? Generally ratings like this are enforced mostly by the distributors which means if you can find your own way to distribute it or find a distributor who doesn't care then you can do whatever
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save screen also appears when you die

or you can potentially unplug controller and plug to second slot? I dunno how NES classic works
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mostly just makes my mouth/tongue/throat really itchy for like 10-15 minutes. super uncomfortable but nothing too dangerous, I thought. but then when I got allergy tested, I was told I should avoid eating them because while it's usually not a bad reaction there's always a smallish chance it could be serious one time and it's not really worth risking. I already kinda didn't like eating them anymore because of the itching so I was reluctantly fine with that.

At least it's only raw ones, so I can still have them cooked or in jams or whatever
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I've done a decent amount of practice and a few runs of a game longer than that

I can't imagine it's the sort of thing you'd want to do all the time but if it can be broken down into pieces for practice it's easy to get a lot of playtime in smaller chunks even when you don't do full runs that often. And then clearing out your entire day for a nice solid run and just chilling on voice chat with a few people or something during it is kinda relaxing in a way
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Have you played (m)any of the other Wild Arms games? I was considering getting into the series somewhat but I dunno if I need to play them in order or skip some or just do whatever I feel like
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seeing bingo at a marathon setting like this is amazing to me. the concept is extremely cool and a nice way to potentially spice up a ton of non-linear games, but I always worry a little about its reception since it's about as arbitrary as arbitrary can get
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Schwarz posted...

Dang, what happened, they wipe the database or something?

I figure it's probably the opposite of this, the database is too full of things and now it starts getting inaccurate. Did you try adding the characters afterward to see if it already had them or not?

Basically, back when the database was smaller it had very good guess rate + quick guesses for the stuff that was in it, but was easier to completely stump with characters it had never heard of. The more characters you add, the less likely it is to come across a completely never-before-seen character but the more questions it will take to tell apart characters it does know from each other
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this topic makes me sad I recently developed an allergy to fresh peaches/plums/nectarines and shouldn't eat them anymore :(
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I can't help but feel like this is a hopeless list to ever try and build, the amount of interestin stuff that's lost so badly no one even realizes it's lost at all is way too high
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how does this game play, anyway? like, what's the general game flow?
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that run killed me :(
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Kerred posted...

FlyingForever posted...

Kids still play this wow

The last set Dominaria was one of the best selling of all time it looks like.

There is a probably not-true rumor of Hasbro trying to crank out as much money as possible because they are planning to sell and want to up the value as much as possible.

The few previous sets to dominaria were poorly recieved by both newer players and veterans, the standard environment was not very fun, and they were having serious issues with low quality cardstock causing warping of cards. I think it's more likely they just realized they were in a bad spot and needed to do something serious, since they pulled back richard garfield for design (he hadn't been on design teams in a long time) and went back to one of their big popular settings from the past. was an effort to save themselves and it worked out super well

Bad_Mojo posted...

Back in my day, when Magic was first coming out, you went to the store, bought some fucking cards, and everyone got to play if you had some. I had (I sold them for $2,400) so many cards that I loved to play with, but I couldn't play with any of them for the past 10/15 years because they're not apart of any Core Set or any of that.

the reason you're probably having trouble finding a chance to play with older cards like that is because people nowadays tend to play in specific formats. Most common two are probably Standard (rotating format of the most recent few sets) and Modern (all cards since 8th edition + a small banlist). There are other formats that are more of a "play with any cards" type thing, like Legacy and Vintage, but the reason these don't get played as often is basically:

1) Really strong combos+synergy. Turns out if you spend this many years printing cards and then let people use any ones they want, there's a lot of really broken stuff that comes out. Winning on turn 2 or even turn 1 is not entirely out of the question.
2) Massive financial barrier because many important cards are rare and out of print. A single deck can easily go into the thousands of dollars. And because of #1, if you can't afford this "entry fee" your deck is often pretty handicapped to the point where you may as well not be playing.

basically you're stuck in this awkward place where you probably don't have a deck that can compete at all in the actual format it's in, but you can't play it in other formats because it could be extremely unfair to everyone else. In which case I would say your best solution is to just play EDH
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it's clearly intended to be similar to dark souls, so yeah the comparisons are basically all on-point

I think it plays perfectly fine on PC, if you usually game on PC I would not fuss a ton over whether to do switch version or not since PC is good too
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16-BITTER posted...

they were either always good or always bad.

well I guess that's where our main point of disagreement lies, since I think of qualifying things as good/bad as an inherently comparison-based metric and a game that was at one point "good" can definitely become "not good" as the environment around it and the other available options change
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I guess I should add that I don't think "revolutionary/impactful" and "good" are necessarily the same thing. I'm definitely not faulting SMB1 for its massive impact on the industry and basically setting a ton of standards for games for a loooong time. But unfortunately those pieces of history don't make the game extra fun to play nowadays or anything unless you just want to see firsthand what started all this
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16-BITTER posted...

How is fair to compare Super Mario Bros. to Super Mario Odyssey without taking the former's age into context?

because nowadays, if I was going to play one of the two, my choices are not:

1) Play mario odyssey
2) Go into a time machine to 1985 and also erase all my memories of how gaming advanced and then play super mario bros

They're:

1) Play mario odyssey
2) Play super mario bros

Yes, one is older. Yes, the older one looks bad in comparison because things tend to get better over time as new advancements are made. Would you rather have a modern HD TV or a black and white CRT TV? Just because it's revolutionary for its time doesn't necessarily mean it's still good now.

plus, by being reluctant to compare like this it means you're also missing the stuff SMB might do better than odyssey, like having a higher difficulty, streamlined design instead of a ton of meandering side objectives, lower commitment due to shorter play time + fast startup -> play, and (for those who really hate motion controls) no motion controls
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creativeme posted...

for those that watched skyward sword is it worth watching?

https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticEncouragingRutabagaDxCat (skyward sword final boss, so spoilers obviously)
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this should already happen everywhere tbh
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I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with judging older games by modern standards. After all, things like the NES classic are still being released today. These games aren't existing entirely in just the memories of people back then; they are being officially rereleased in the same environment as all modern games we play now.

If anything it feels unfair not to compare them
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100 great NES games?

lol

maybe 100 "This was pretty good when all its competition was other even worse NES games" but there's probably like 10-20 NES games I'd consider actually good now
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become immense
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https://files.catbox.moe/sxgtqr.jpg

I wonder how much gel this takes
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Ys8 lol
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25 shows wat

how many are there total, even?
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poll is a bit weird without definitions since everyone will probably understand the options as meaning different things, but imo I'm hardcore I guess?
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I'm not even close to paranoid enough for that
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the NA release is cancelled too
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how much of the routing / how many tricks were specific to the 3ds version?
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toy stores are still full of minecraft merchandise I'm sure it's still generating plenty of money
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game selection doesn't seem to have gotten any worse to me. lots of the old classics are still around (super metroid even made a return here) and there's always a healthy dose of weird newer things too
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Raikuro posted...

They do tend to dislike things that are too "Westernized" I guess, but that falls into my main point that they think the only reason to enjoy anime is because it's Japanese (or whatever warped idea they have of what Japan is "supposed" to be like)

oh I meant more how if you put a bunch of anime fans in one place they're all just hating on each others tastes. not enough cute girls, too many cute girls; all fluff no plot, too edgy and no fun; overly forced drama, no relationship development; too much power level sillyness, not enough action scenes; etc etc
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