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Accrovideogames posted...

Her lawyers are exploiting her for money. They know her lawsuit is frivolous but they file it anyway. They're evil bastards.

Most lawyers won't file a lawsuit they know they can't win, unless they know their client has enough money to pay their bills without a settlement; otherwise, they're just throwing away cash. I'm not convinced someone as dumb as this Karen has enough money to meet that requirement.

I think these guys are hoping that Starbucks decides to settle out of court. A lot of big companies are willing to do that, because a settlement is cheaper than paying their own lawyers to fight the case all the way to a trial's conclusion. That being said, I think it's a poor gambit in this case, because there's a solid chance that this case would get dismissed long before a judgement was rendered.

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agesboy posted...

demonbane is omnipotent too

Literally not possible.

You cannot have two omnipotent entities at the same time. It's like having an immovable object and an unstoppable force; the existence of one precludes the existence of the other.

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Zeus posted...

lolwut?

He said that she wants to wait until Trump is out of office. What's confusing about that?

Zeus posted...

If they regain control of the senate, they could.

There are zero scenarios where the Democrats lose the presidency, but somehow take back the senate. They either lose both, win both, or take the presidency but fail to take the senate.

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Zeus posted...

Democrats can stall voting on a replacement until the next president takes office?

Democrats couldn't stall on voting on a replacement - they're the minority party in the senate and Moscow Mitch did away with the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees in order to steal the Garland seat and give it to Gorsuch.

I note you also didn't mention that Roberts was also hospitalized last month. Odd for you to omit that and just focus on Ginsburg.

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"We have lockdown at home! Besides, you already got a lockdown and you didn't even finish that one."

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Depends entirely on the situation. I moved out at 18 to attend university, moved back after I graduated, then moved out for good in my mid-20s after I bought a house for myself. I could have rented in those interim years, but the folks were willing to have me and that let me save up for the house faster, so why wouldn't I take advantage?

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Yes, because there is a competent government where I live and, not coincidentally, there hasn't been a new Coronavirus case in nearly a month here.

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For a non-documentary? Fellowship of the Ring is the first one I can recall. The bass rumble on the balrog's roar was something you felt, rather than heard.

Earliest IMAX movie of any kind I can remember is "Fires of Kuwait", although I'm quite certain that wasn't actually my first.

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Unbridled9 posted...

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense.

I didn't say it made sense, I'm just saying it's the truth.

I don't understand it either. The protests seemed like they should be an excellent event for spreading the virus, yet all indications so far are that no such spread occurred.

Unbridled9 posted...

Either way, that's the sort of thing that results in people refusing to listen to health experts and disregarding their advise entirely.

Well, what are you expecting them to do? Lie about the results and pretend that there actually is a huge spike in protest areas (or that there isn't one in red states right now)? You're getting upset at them for accurately reporting the current state of the virus.

It's worth noting that while the experts remain our best source of information about the virus, they too are flying somewhat blind on this. They are still learning about the virus as it goes along - for instance, they're now thinking there's a good possibility that it's airborne, which substantially changes our understanding of how the disease spreads (the entire two metre distancing rule is based on the idea that the virus *isn't* airborne and therefore we only need to worry about the virus being spread from things like sneezing or yelling or singing spreading moisture droplets). They're not going to be 100% right about this virus from the get-go. That doesn't mean their advice is worthless, but it also means it's understandable that they're occasionally going to get things wrong and we shouldn't necessarily be getting super-upset about that.

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Zeus posted...

Considering that the investigation was the combination of a partisan witch hunt and fishing expedition

A partisan witch hunt by the Republicans who called it, the Republican-controlled congress that approved it, the Republican who served as special prosecutor, or the Republican justice department that oversaw it?

chlc3d posted...

Where does the constitution say abuse of power is grounds for impeachment?

The part where it says that the president can be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanours". Which is anything that congress says it is.

The exact phrase "high crimes and misdemeanours" actually dates back several hundred years into English common law, and in the era where it was written "misdemeanours" didn't refer to "minor crimes" the way it does today, it refers to conduct that was legal but still "bad".

Something does not have to be illegal for it to be impeachable. This is why several Supreme Court justices have been impeached and removed for things like "drunkenness", which was not illegal but was seen to be bringing the court into disrepute.

Some things are illegal but not impeachable - if Trump stole a candy bar, jaywalked across the street, then got a speeding ticket on his way home, he's committed three crimes, but no one would reasonably say it was impeachable conduct.

By the same token, some things are impeachable, but not illegal. For instance, if Trump started giving out pardons on request to anyone who donated at least a million dollars to his re-election campaign, including pardoning murderers and rapists if their family was well-enough off, he would be completely within his legal authority as president (there are almost no restrictions on who the president can pardon and under what circumstances, so long as they were convicted of a crime in federal court), but it would be such a gross and blatant abuse of the powers he has been invested with it would almost certainly lead to impeachment and removal.

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BeerOnTap posted...

Super Spreaders

If this were the case, we would see a spike in areas where the protests took place.

That hasn't happened. For whatever reason, those protests do not seem to have caused an uptick in virus cases.

And, even as someone who supported the protesters and recognizes their cause as extremely important, I find that astounding. At the time, I was certain there would be a huge spike afterwards... but there hasn't been. At least, not in those areas.

The areas that are out of control now are mostly right-wing states that opened up way too early. States like New York, the site of massive protests, have had no noticeable increase in their caseload since the protests happened.

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Only fools rush in
Where angels fear to tread

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chlc3d posted...

Am i not supposed to use it because it's two decades old? or because a conservative made it? Or is it the combination of both that makes it bad? I'm not trying to be obstinate, I just have a very hard time understanding this.

No, you're not supposed to use it because:

darkknight109 posted...

That was first coined by the late conservative columnist and notable Trump critic Charles Krauthammer a few years into George W. Bush's first term as "Bush Derangement Syndrome" (something that's aged like milk given how the rest of Bush's years in office went) and that was pretty much the last time it was in any way creative or meaningful. Worth noting that Krauthammer's column on Bush Derangement Syndrome was heavily sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek, not a serious statement on the anti-Bush mindset.

Unsurprisingly, conservatives completely missed the nuance in Krauthammer's column and thought it was the most brilliant thing ever and have since recycled it for every single conservative politician in existence when they need to defend them against legitimate criticism. Canada got "Harper Derangement Syndrome", the UK got "Boris Derangement Syndrome" and even retroactively applied it to get "Thatcher Derangement Syndrome", and now it's been updated to "Trump Derangement Syndrome" by redhats who think they're parroting a new and bitingly clever jab at the libs and, much like yourself, don't realize that they're using an ancient conservative meme that's older than fucking MySpace.

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darkknight109 posted...

No, it's an ad hominem way of attempting to shut down a discussion when you realize you can't actually challenge the substance of the other person's views, so you're trying to figure out a way to disengage and avoid addressing the topic at hand while still claiming victory.

This is precisely why the "Derangement Syndrome" hack is such a tired schtick - it's not witty or clever, it's not actually saying anything of substance, it's just calling the other side names in an attempt to make yourself feel better. It should have died out 15 years ago, but conservatives just can't seem to come up with any new material to use so they keep recycling old shit and just updating the names and hoping no one notices (and, to be fair, most of their own followers don't, as you've already proved).

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OhhhJa posted...

I mean... people routinely co-opt phrases in that manner. Democrats co-opted "fake news." Originally they used it ironically to ridicule trump then it slowly entered their vocabulary and is now used to regularly by them to describe right wing media

If you want to be technical, Trump co-opted the term first.

If you'll recall, "fake news" in 2015/2016 described an actual, real problem: Facebook "news sites", frequently fronts for Russia-based propaganda that were disseminated by bot farms, peddling bullshit stories and objectively false information, targeting American voters (mostly conservatives but some were aimed at liberals as well). When it started getting lots of press and people pointed out that Trump was benefiting, he started using the phrase extensively, except in his parlance it changed from "factually wrong targeted bullshit being peddled by malign state actors" to "any news story/organization I don't like". And fuck him, he was so successful at redefining the phrase that most people have forgotten that it actually used to be an important term used to describe a real and substantial problem.

Also, perhaps I'm just not running in the right circles, but I haven't seen leftists using "fake news" unironically, at least not with any regularity. Any time I see it used it's still done as a mockery of Trump's use of the phrase (or used to point out legitimately fake news).

chlc3d posted...

I don't really understand the relevance of the etymology here though.

What's not to understand? You're using a two-decade-old conservative meme. If you can't understand the relevance after I just laid out the history of the term, you're beyond my help.

chlc3d posted...

Why would I stop saying a phrase because it has older roots? It is a useful and fun way to describe a particular case of partisan bias.

No, it's an ad hominem way of attempting to shut down a discussion when you realize you can't actually challenge the substance of the other person's views, so you're trying to figure out a way to disengage and avoid addressing the topic at hand while still claiming victory.

This is precisely why the "Derangement Syndrome" hack is such a tired schtick - it's not witty or clever, it's not actually saying anything of substance, it's just calling the other side names in an attempt to make yourself feel better. It should have died out 15 years ago, but conservatives just can't seem to come up with any new material to use so they keep recycling old shit and just updating the names and hoping no one notices (and, to be fair, most of their own followers don't, as you've already proved).

chlc3d posted...

It seems like you have a pretty fundamental problem with the basic way that languages evolve.

Gazizza, my dillsnoofus.

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chlc3d posted...

what 20-year old conservative trope am I relying on

*insert conservative politician's name here* Derangement Syndrome.

That was first coined by the late conservative columnist and notable Trump critic Charles Krauthammer a few years into George W. Bush's first term as "Bush Derangement Syndrome" (something that's aged like milk given how the rest of Bush's years in office went) and that was pretty much the last time it was in any way creative or meaningful. Worth noting that Krauthammer's column on Bush Derangement Syndrome was heavily sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek, not a serious statement on the anti-Bush mindset.

Unsurprisingly, conservatives completely missed the nuance in Krauthammer's column and thought it was the most brilliant thing ever and have since recycled it for every single conservative politician in existence when they need to defend them against legitimate criticism. Canada got "Harper Derangement Syndrome", the UK got "Boris Derangement Syndrome" and even retroactively applied it to get "Thatcher Derangement Syndrome", and now it's been updated to "Trump Derangement Syndrome" by redhats who think they're parroting a new and bitingly clever jab at the libs and, much like yourself, don't realize that they're using an ancient conservative meme that's older than fucking MySpace.

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chlc3d posted...

you seem to have trump derangement syndrome

You seem to have a questionable grasp of the English language, as well as relying on 20-year-old conservative tropes created by a Never Trump conservative.

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chlc3d posted...

Yes it did. I'm sorry you didn't understand it lol.

I understood it perfectly well; you're the one who seems to be struggling with understanding that a question about the future should not have an answer that is past-tense.

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chlc3d posted...

wait whats supposed to be wrong with this one lol

Typically when someone asks you, "What's a top priority item for a second term?", your answer should include something you want to do in your second term.

chlc3d posted...

seemed like his answer was "don't hire warmongers" seems like a good start to me

That was not his answer; he literally did not say that.

He said he made mistakes in his first term and he emphasized that was past-tense; by his own answer, all of the people in his administration right now are great (a sentiment that will probably last for another couple weeks until we're due for another high-profile firing/resignation).

His answer did not even tangentially address the question asked, which makes me believe he couldn't understand it. And when the question is that simple, that makes me think he has some significant issues with cognitive decline.

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ninja_lootz posted...

Dementia World Cup 2020

Biden : 1000
Trump : 1

We closin' the gap, boys!

Conversation 1 (December 2019):

"I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. Theyre noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. Youll see more birds than youve ever seen in your life. [...] Theyre made in China and Germany mostly. But theyre manufactured tremendous, if youre into this, tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right? Spewing. Whether its in China, Germany, its going into the air. Its our air, their air, everything, right?" - Donald Trump

"Ive seen the most beautiful fields, farms, fields most gorgeous things youve ever seen, and then you have these ugly things going up. And sometimes theyre made by different companies. You know, Im like a perfectionist; I really built good stuff. And so youll see like a few windmills made by one company: General Electric. And then youll see a few made by Siemens, and youll see a few made by some other guy that doesnt have 10 cents, so it looks like a so you see all these windows, theyre all different shades of colour. Theyre like sort of white, but one is like an orange-white. Its my favourite colour: orange." - Donald Trump

Conversation 2 (April 2019):

"I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges, the oranges of the investigation, the beginnings of that investigation. [...] The Mueller report I wished covered the oranges, how it started, the beginnings of the investigation, how it started. It didnt cover that, and for some reason none of that was discussed." - Donald Trump

My father is German, right? Was German, and born in a very wonderful place in Germany, so I have a great feeling for Germany." - Donald Trump, whose father, Fred Trump, was born in the US and lived there his entire life.

"If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 per cent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, OK?" - Donald Trump

Conversation 3 (June 2020):

In response to a question of "what is one of your top priority items for your second term?" from Sean Hannity.

Well, one of the things that will be really great, you know, the word experience is still good. I always say talent is more important than experience. Ive always said that. But the word experience is a very important word. Its an, a very important meaning. I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington, I think, 17 times. All of a sudden, Im president of the United States. You know the story. Im riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say, This is great'. But I didnt know very many people in Washington, it wasnt my thing. I was from Manhattan, from New York. Now, I know everybody, and I have great people in the administration. You make some mistakes. Like, you know, an idiot like Bolton. The only thing he wanted to do was drop bombs on everybody. You dont have to drop bombs on everybody. You dont have to kill people. - Donald Trump

Conversation 4 (July 2016):

"Look, having nuclear my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart you know, if youre a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say Im one of the smartest people anywhere in the world its true! but when youre a conservative Republican they try oh, do they do a number thats why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because were a little disadvantaged but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me it would have been so easy, and its not as important as these lives are nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of whats going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? but when you look at whats going on with the four prisoners now it used to be three, now its four but when it was three and even now, I would have said its all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they dont, they havent figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, its gonna take them about another 150 years but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible. - Donald Trump

Donald Trump is plainly unwell, even compared to just a few years ago. He frequently loses track of his train of thought, he's displaying signs of aphasia (substituting similar-sounding or similar-meaning words to the words he's actually trying to use - like when he was going off about the "oranges" of the Mueller report, something he misstated multiple times at different points in his speech), and his inability to process complex ideas or focus for extended lengths of time has been reported on so often we've almost stopped recognizing that a president who is unable to read through basic briefings and has to have them orally presented and simplified isn't normal. This is without even touching on his physical health, like his infamous ramp-walk or his sudden, unexplained visit to the Walter Reed Medical Center late last year.

Trump can't focus, can't speak coherently (something that is getting worse as time progresses), and is displaying all the signs of a senior in cognitive decline. His verbal diarrhea reads like a textbook case of Wernicke's Aphasia. Anybody who has watched a grandparent mentally fade will recognize a lot in Trump's behaviour. I don't know if he had a mild stroke last year, if it's the onset of Alzheimer's, or if it's something else altogether, but Trump is plainly mentally unwell (beyond his lifelong struggles with NPD).

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I always love how morons on the internet think that the world's elite are engaged in an Illuminati-style mastermind plot, complete with secret codes and passphrases to hide their criminal misdeeds, while simultaneously being dumb enough that said morons can figure out their entire plot with no insider knowledge.

News flash: if the world's elite really were engaged in a human trafficking and pedophilia ring, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be the one to crack the case, Sherlock.

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ninja_lootz posted...

Pizzagate is a broad discussion about pedophilia, child trafficking and satanism amidst the elites. This is generally centered around the Podesta brothers. It has little to do with pizzerias.

I don't really see a reason to stifle discussion of these topics unless you are complicit in them yourself.

Pizzagate is a broad discussion about pedophilia, child trafficking, and satanism in the same way that birtherism is a broad discussion about immigration and Sandy Hook trutherism is a broad discussion about CIA practices and acting talent, and should be treated the exact same way by anyone with more than two brain cells to bang together.

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Holy shit, are there actually still people in 2020 that think Pizzagate is real?

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Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

Citation: Trump's love affairs with Vladmir Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong Un, Rodrigo Duterte, Jair Bolsonaro, and Viktor Orban, coupled with the way he acts like a pissant to everyone else.

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Zeus posted...

If you thought DK's political ignorance had bounds, he just claimed that Osama bin Laden was a dictator. What country did ObL rule again?

None - that was my point. Congratulations on missing the joke.

Don't you have some bitch-post to make about the government not opening things up fast enough so more people can die or something?

streamofthesky posted...

Uh...isn't Osama bin Laden Asian?

Was referring to ethnicity.

Bin Laden would be right up Trump's alley if his skin was a little lighter.

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streamofthesky posted...

https://i.imgur.com/JrGpOct.jpg

Come on, man, that's a low blow even for Trump.

He only likes white and Asian autocratic dictators.

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Yes. Okinawa, Tokyo, and a jaunt through parts of Tohoku. I want to visit the western part of the country next time I visit.

I may go to Okinawa again late this year or early next, depending on how the whole Covid situation looks at that time.

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I actually ran into her at a local play (A Christmas Carol) about five-ish years ago in our hometown (which both of us had moved away from, but come back to during the holidays to visit family). Since the last time I'd seen her (university - we actually lived across the hall from one another in the dorms for a year), she'd gotten her doctorate, moved to Australia, and started working for one of the universities (can't honestly recall if she was a professor or was employed in some other capacity).

No regrets there. I asked her out when we were in uni together, but she wasn't into me, so she turned me down. With the benefit of hindsight, I think it probably wouldn't have worked out anyways. I do still occasionally wonder "what could have been", though...

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Yeah, they're all great. Except for the prequels. And Rise of Skywalker is pretty borderline as well.

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I don't particularly care one way or another. Whether they change it or not has no impact on my life.

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Zeus posted...

Canada is the same

No, it's not, we're not barbarians. I've literally never been in a house anywhere in Canada where shoes were left on. America is pretty much the only place that does this in the developed world.

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Zeus posted...

Reminder that a NY grocery store test extrapolated that a substantial number of people have had COVID and got over it without even noticing, which -- on top of protests -- basically shows that the shutdowns which have done so much damage to America were basically unnecessary.

Ah, yes - 120,000 dead and counting shows that efforts to contain and mitigate the virus are wholly unnecessary. Brilliant deduction.

May I suggest that you contact your lawyer and give them the name of whatever institution gave you your medical instruction? I think you got conned.

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Reminder that Coronavirus has now killed more Americans than World War I and shows no signs of slowing down.

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...but I do think that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the best entry in the Mario Kart series.

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Zeus posted...

Your video doesn't play, but even the quote without the context of vocal intonation sounds facetious.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/06/23/i-dont-kid-trump-says-he-wasnt-joking-about-slowing-testing/#3a2957c15b69

I Dont Kid: Trump Says He Wasnt Joking About Slowing Testing

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FatalAccident posted...

Can an officer tell you youre under arrest for literally anything and you have to comply whether you feel youre doing it or not, otherwise you can be charged with resisting arrest?

Like if he said Im under arrest for doing whatever is not allowed, even though Im adamant Im not doing whatever he says Im doing - do I just have to comply otherwise Im charged with resisting?

Short answer is yes.

If a cop says you're under arrest, you don't have a mechanism to argue it there in the street. You ultimately have to comply with the arrest, even if you think the arrest is unlawful (which is fucked up, I know, but them's the breaks). Your mechanism to fight bogus arrests/charges is court, so you'll have to lawyer up at that point and/or hope the prosecutor just tosses the charges because s/he doesn't think s/he'll be able to get a conviction with the info available.

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Depends how far you want to trace it back.

I think garden-variety racism has a lot more to do with inequality in the US than lingering after-effects of slavery, but there's a credible argument to be made that the latter is tied to the former.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

If your land keeps going up, you probably want to move - you might be living on a faultline.

Or just on a tectonic plate that's being pushed up - you don't necessarily have to be near the fault line.

That's happening where I live. It's actually partially-countering the effects of global warming in the area, because our coastline is rising at a slightly faster rate than the sea level.

blu posted...

Im amazed by how much a 10-15 year generational gap influences a core personality feature.

I've never bought into that, honestly. Where we draw lines in terms of who belongs to what generation is entirely arbitrary, yet we expect everyone in those generational blocs to behave similarly, when logic would dictate that's not the case. The oldest millennials, for instance, were born around 1981; logically speaking, they should have a lot more in common with the younger members of Gen X (born in the late 70s, a few years earlier) than with the younger members of the Millennials (born in the late 90s, almost two decades later). Hell, in an extreme case you could have a teenage millennial born in the 80s giving birth to another millennial in the late 90s, yet you're expecting that parent and child will still have more similar life experiences to each other than to those born just before or after them.

Even within each generation, the groupings don't make sense. The youngest millennials came of age just before the year 2000, when the economy was roaring (and had been for a while), the internet was just on the cusp of breaching mainstream consciousness, and September 11 was still a couple of years away from rewriting the entire geopolitical outlook for the western world. The mid-range millennials came of age just before or after the Great Recession struck, with a historically-bad economy and dismal job outlooks, while on the tech side smart phones and social media were in their infancy. Finally, the tail-end of the Millennials came of age five-to-eight-ish years ago, once again with the economy roaring and the tech outlook now looking a lot more like modern day.

Why do we think those three groups would have broadly similar life experiences or outlooks? It's overgeneralization to the point of ridiculousness, which is why you still see news articles complaining about "those damn millennial college kids partying on the beach during spring break", despite the fact that all but the youngest millennials are well past their post-secondary years (and even the youngest would be doing grad school now), while the oldest are about to turn 40.

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blu posted...

Million dollar homes are gated mini-mansions...but I guess towards center city theyre closer to normal sized homes.

My home is "normal-sized" (i.e., not a mansion), but it is oceanfront property, which does tend to spike the value.

Location, far more than house type/size, determines the value of your home.

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blu posted...

How do people have over a million of dollars of things.

what physical things do you guys have that add up to that

My house alone is worth nearly a million (technically some of that is land value, so if I get to keep the title then I guess that changes the calculus a bit, but you're still asking me to, essentially, wipe out everything I've bought for what would amount to a fairly paltry gain). Between my vehicles, my computers, a pretty extensive retro gaming collection, and all the other odds and ends in my home, it would cost me at least a million to replace everything, and that's not counting the time involved (one of the things you increasingly grow to respect as you get older is that your time isn't free and should be treated as though it has monetary value).

Not to mention, some stuff just isn't replaceable. I have a few extremely rare collectibles and even a few one-of-a-kinds that I would most likely not be able to replace, and that's not even counting things that have sentimental value (I have a clock that's been in the family for over 120 years and has survived two fires). Some of my possessions are things I have put a great deal of time into making and crafting and a million bucks isn't going to give me that time back.

So yeah, hard no on that one.

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No. If my house is included, I'd actually lose money on that deal.

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OhhhJa posted...

The virus quite obviously originated in China and when he proposed the travel ban that was before anybody really knew what the fuck was going on honestly.

Dude, the travel ban happened on February 2nd - people absolutely knew what was going on by that point. Chuck Schumer had already urged Trump to declare an emergency and the Democrat senators had sent their letter to Alex Azar requesting information and action a week earlier. The virus had been in the news for weeks at that point and the US had already seen its first case 12 days earlier. By that point, the travel ban was of questionable value because the virus had already spread far beyond China's borders, including into the US, and that fact was well known.

Hell, Trump wasn't even the first world leader to ban travel from China, not by a long shot (contrary to his claims on the subject). Six countries announced travel restrictions prior to January 30 when the WHO declared a global health emergency; six more announced travel restrictions the same day as the announcement, followed by 11 countries announcing their own bans the same day that Trump did (Jan. 31), except unlike Trump's ban, most of those restrictions were effective immediately; by the time Trump's ban actually took effect, 15 more countries had implemented similar or tougher bans, making 38 countries that implemented travel bans before or simultaneous to Trump's.

Even on the one thing that Trump claims to have been proactive on, he was - at best - riding the curve.

OhhhJa posted...

Hell, nobody really still seems to know what's going on. The CDC and WHO keep flip flopping on numerous details about the virus.

Yes, that's what happens when you have a brand new, very deadly virus spreading rapidly across the globe. The CDC, the WHO, and every other health organization on the planet are acting on the best data they have, which is incomplete and rapidly evolving. They're not going to get everything correct immediately and they don't have time to wait until they're 100% sure of the facts; they have to go with their best guess at the time, then update as better data becomes available.

emagdnE posted...

Biden only does well in polls now because people don't actually know anything about him.

I'm curious how long you're going to keep insisting this. I fully expect that on November 1, with Biden still leading in the polls, you'll still be barking about how his numbers are going to drop "any day now" once Trump and the Republicans *really* start attacking him.

emagdnE posted...

(And as noted, 2016 proved polls are super unreliable.)

The polls in 2016 were accurate within their margin of error. There was nothing unreliable about them.

A reminder that Trump *barely* scraped out a win against the least popular Democrat candidate of all time. His margin of victory was less than 100k voters spread across three states. If you filled a single football stadium with Trump voters and convinced them to switch their votes to Hillary, she'd be running for re-election right now and Trump would have spent the last four years golfing (so not much change there, really...).

The 2016 election was the closest election in the last 50 years that didn't feature someone named "George W. Bush". That's pretty much exactly what the polls said it would be.

emagdnE posted...

Bernie was the right choice. Both in 2016 and 2020.

Pretty pathetic that he couldn't beat Hillary or Biden then. Doesn't speak much for his ability to win the national vote if he can't even convince a majority of his own party that he's a good candidate.

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I think it's telling that Trump is trying to pain Biden as being addled with dementia.

One of Trump's hallmarks is that he constantly projects his own flaws onto other people. Trump sees he's getting accused of hiding in a basement? He amps up the attacks on Biden for hiding in his basement. He's getting accused of being an idiot? Watch as he calls his target of the day "low-IQ". This is a classic narcissist trait - they lack the ability to empathize with other people, so their best means of attack is to turn their internal criticisms of themselves outwards onto others.

So when he harps on Biden for being "sleepy" and dementia-addled... what does that say about where Trump's mind's at and what he's hearing behind closed doors?

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OhhhJa posted...

Because they traveled to China. It's like a people can't connect simple dots

Multiple virology teams have confirmed that the US outbreak largely came from Europe, not China.

https://nationalpost.com/news/covid-19-u-s-coronavirus-outbreak-came-from-europe-flights-not-china-say-researchers

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OhhhJa posted...

Lol a lot of dems were saying this wasn't a big deal initially.

Then those dems were objectively wrong. Much like Trump.

That said, I don't know how many you're suggesting constitute "a lot", but I'll point out that a full 31 democratic senators - aka about two thirds of their entire caucus - sent a letter to Alex Azar on January 27, urging action on the coronavirus and asking if any congressional support was needed to help fight the virus.

THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...

I honestly refuse to believe that anyone thinks this guy can beat Donald Trump.

Up 13 points in the latest poll.

If we're talking about senior moments, can we also bring up gems like this:

I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. But theyre manufactured tremendous if youre into this tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint fumes are spewing into the air. Right? Spewing. Whether its in China, Germany, its going into the air. Its our air, their air, everything right? - Donald Trump

Biden still knows what planet he's on; I can't say the same for the current occupant of the White House.

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The_tall_midget posted...

Do you not enjoy always being wrong in the end? Does it not get old to always seeing your ideologies fail miserably?

Are you asking yourself that question? Because if not, you should be.

Let's take a look at the US, for instance. The top 15 states by murder rate are, in order, Louisiana, Missouri, Nevada, Maryland, Arkansas, Alaska, Alabama, Mississippi, Illinois, South Carolina, Tennessee, New Mexico, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Ohio. That's three blue states, two swing states (and that's being generous given that one of them is Ohio, which has been trending red lately), and a full ten Republican states, including some of the reddest states in the country.

By contrast, the 15 lowest are New Hampshire, North Dakota, Maine, Idaho, Rhode Island, Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Utah, Massachusetts, Oregon, Wyoming, Hawaii, Connecticut, and New York - five red states, three swing (all blue-leaning), and seven Democrat.

Left-wing states are simply safer than their right-wing peers. Seems to be a point in favour of more leftist policies.

Well, maybe that right-wing ideology pays better? I mean, that's supposed to be what conservatives are all about, right?

Except no, of the 10 wealthiest US states by median income, all but two are strongly Democratic (in order: Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Alaska, California, Virginia, and Washington). The exceptions are republican Alaska (most of which comes from a combination of a small population and the presence of large amounts of easily accessible oil) and swing-state New Hampshire.

By contrast, the 10 poorest states are (with just one exception in blue New Mexico) all strongly Republican: West Virginia, Mississippi, Arkansas, New Mexico, Lousiana, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee.

Not looking good for conservatism so far.

Let's take a look at the world as a whole. The US has a soaring murder rate of 5.35 per 100k - clocking in just ahead of powerhouses like Ecuador, Ukraine, and Afghanistan, but not quite matching such safety heavyweights as Pakistan, Lebanon, or Cuba in terms of safety. Meanwhile, the socialist and democratic-socialist European states manage to do pretty well for themselves - Finland (not coincidentally the most gun-friendly socialist country) is the closest to the US, with roughly a quarter of the murder rate (1.35 per 100k), but not quite matching Sweden (1.08), Denmark (0.98), Greece (0.75), the Netherlands (0.55), Norway (0.51), or Iceland (0.3).

Meanwhile, the World Happiness Report's top 10 of happiest countries is dominated by European socialist countries (top 10 2019 countries are, in order, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada, and Austria). Most have comparable GDP per capita (Norway actually beats out the US, which is #10 overall, while the Netherlands, Iceland, Sweden, and Denmark are all in the top 20). Norway, Sweden, and Denmark all have higher median household incomes than the US (and the Netherlands and Finland aren't far behind) and virtually all the socialist nations enjoy much lower levels of income inequality than the US. Norway is the highest ranked country on the Human Development Index, with Iceland, Sweden and the Netherlands also in the top 10. All of those, plus Denmark, are higher than the US (which ranks 13th).

All these "leftist wastelands" honestly sound vastly more pleasant to live in than America, to be quite honest...

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OhhhJa posted...

OK just to satisfy your bs. No threats were made that I know of unless there were isolated ones. I don't think any group made any explicit threats and it was pretty clear they were just there to exercise their rights one of them being there 2nd amendment. In short, it was an obvious show of expressing their rights and not being about violence

So why bring guns then?

Guns have precisely one use - violence. That violence can be for good aims or for ill, but there is no secondary function of a gun other than effecting violence.

So why did these protesters - at a protest that had nothing to with weapons or their availability - feel the need to bring along weapons if not as an implicit threat to those they were protesting against?

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papercup posted...

Don't even bother, DPs is physically incapable of understanding basic facts.

I know, but sometimes it's kind of fun dunking on a six-foot net.

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DPsx7 posted...

Businesses don't just switch over to making different products.

They wouldn't need to - you need to put orders in at the companies that already make those products so they can ramp up production and make use of that lead time.

As an example, Prestige America contacted the federal government in January with an offer to re-open four dormant manufacturing lines and start producing 1.7 million N95 masks a week. The government turned him down, then wound up with mask shortage two months later.

DPsx7 posted...

Since the other viruses didn't make a huge impact here who knew this would do anything?

The Democrats, along with literally anyone else who was paying attention. So, unsurprisingly, not you or Trump.

DPsx7 posted...

The pres's first job is not to incite a state of panic.

Correct, it's to look after the country - which he objectively failed to do.

DPsx7 posted...

Obviously some places were hit harder. NY tried to ask for WAY more supplies than necessary.

The juxtaposition of these two sentences is hilarious. NY had - and still has, though that will likely soon change - the biggest outbreak in the entire country by a longshot, and many of the deaths there were eminently preventable if the federal government had, y'know, done their fucking jobs and actually provided badly needed medical supplies.

DPsx7 posted...

Stop acting like the good guys knew better.

The Democrats literally sent letters to Trump and the rest of his band of merry idiots warning him of the coming catastrophe and practically begging him to do something intelligent for once. He responded by calling it a hoax to make him look bad.

That "hoax" has killed 110,000 Americans and counting.

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DPsx7 posted...

How is this a Trump problem?

Because Trump managed to be worse than useless in reacting to the virus and instead actively sabotaged his administration's own response.

When he was first briefed on the virus, did he start ramping up PPE and ventilator production to meet demand? No. Did he start putting together a contact-tracing program to help limit the spread and a testing program to identify the infected? No. Did he warn the populace of the coming disaster and encourage practices like good hygiene, social distancing, and other measures that could've helped contain the disease when it was still in its infancy? No.

Instead, he did nothing. Actually, nothing would have been an improvement, because that wouldn't have been actively making things worse. Trump spent the 10 weeks in between his first briefing on COVID and the point where the disease grew too big for him to ignore constantly downplaying the virus, insisting it was no big deal and it was under control and it was just a couple guys from China and it would never appear in the US and it was all just a big Democrat hoax to make him look bad. Hell, even now we're seeing the effects of this, as the states that followed his urging to open up their economies early are seeing surging case numbers that are overloading hospitals and may necessitate a second shutdown.

Donald Trump - the man in charge of the federal executive, tasked with responding to crises like this and mitigating their impact - responded almost as badly as he possibly could have to this disaster. Short of actively trying to get more people infected, I can't think of too many ways he could have responded worse.

DPsx7 posted...

It's easy to act like you know what's best now but at the time there was no indication.

Bullshit there wasn't - if you think that's true, it's because you were sitting around with your thumb up your ass instead of paying attention (much like Donnie has been doing since he got into office).

Know who was? The Democrats. As early as January, they were telling Trump to declare COVID-19 a national health emergency, while Democratic Senators were pushing Trump's health secretary on whether additional congressional resources were needed to combat the pandemic.

They knew what was up; Trump refused to acknowledge it until a stock market meltdown forced his hand, by which point it was too late. Had he actually been on the ball, the US could have had similar infection and death rates to South Korea, meaning we would be looking at tens of thousands of cases and less than a thousand dead, as opposed to millions of cases and 110,000 dead and counting.

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