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Final Voyage
Legacy

genesis and final showdown have definitely been favourites of mine in the past and i still think they're pretty good/great but yeah i didn't have much difficulty picking here (final voyage/final showdown might've been close at least)

Johnbobb posted...

Also now that Tekken xSF is officially cancelled, can we just get a real fighting game crossover with all the major franchises? Take like 4-6 characters each from Tekken, SC, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear, KoF, BlazBlue and maybe even a couple from stuff like Skullgirls

everyone knows the only way such crossovers are allowed is if they're actually srpgs

pyra mythra is complicated because i think people were glad it at least wasn't rex

ChainLTTP posted...

If the hierarchy of Smash characters is supposed to be homages to Nintendo games, then fighting games, then gaming at large, then I think this is an important addition. But it also begs the question of where the Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, and Soul Calibur entrants are...

i think tekken has a minor edge over mk and strongly in japan and clear superiority over vf and sc (popularity-wise). i half expect to see a doa rep before the others too, and i'm not even talking just ryu (even if it'd likely be him anyway)

shuffled my prior ranked ones slightly, not by that much though

02>07>04>16A>11>01>13>15>09>15

i get why others probably wouldn't like jfa's, but it's the one that sets the best mood to me

mids and others or cores next?

LeonhartFour posted...

well I'd like to get these done before the GAA games drop and that's like a month and a week away so I'd rather not wait

but I guess we'll just let this go another day now

that's fair. the 169tom guy's already posted a few new ones though so they'll probably all be up in a week or so at this rate

look i had the tab open since before there were any other responses

02 Mid>02 Core>07 Core>04 Mid>02 OP>04 OP>07 OP>09 OP>01 OP>01 Core

but all of these serve their purpose perfectly

i wonder if it would've been better to split these by opening/core/mid(and etc)

edit: oh i didn't even need to say it lol

I was surprised how much i liked blade strangers too. saw dev gameplay originally and it looked slow and not fun so i took a long time to pick it up but now the characters are super satisfying. especially love the broken-ass fishing of kawase and the goofy counter game of the 1001 spikes guy

Mac Arrowny posted...

A lot huh. Soaring seems like the likely pick there.

admittedly i'm mainly judging from comments before its first match

but also they posted the same scores so who knows

(i'm personally hoping for linkage obviously)

i wonder if we should wait for the new compilation videos before moving ahead

Living in the City
Hurry Up!
House of Sacred Remains

to be clear i was also trying to convey that i didn't think protecta/octopunch/sky were looking that strong either, just... meeting expectations. as the only ones that look like they're getting anywhere near retirement for now.

oh yeah just to get the obligatory psa out of the way

there's a good amount of dialogue in the rooms for examining some things a bunch of times
eg. the ladder in the starting cabin

i've never met him so

save for protecta and octopunch (which i don't know whether to count for much, being that blatantly a sff match) and maybe sky of twilight which has generally appeared to be sitting on retirement-level strength in its past appearances anyway, i feel like every other gust song has been underperforming a bit

sen losing to subuta also caught me by surprise, and i guess it'll be apparent what that really means next round

reminder exsphere got nearly doubled r1 in its first appearance

gust strength fluctuates a lot between years and this year's just not a good one for it

a few more games (that i also haven't tried yet and probably won't at this rate) that i also forgot to mention the first time

https://store.steampowered.com/app/662340 renaine
https://store.steampowered.com/app/726980 cyber warrior
https://store.steampowered.com/app/969760 omno
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118240 lake
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1124180 rail route
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1135690 unpacking
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1136370 bear and breakfast
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1161170 the rewinder
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1203710 unmetal
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1205170 super magbot
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1260520 patrick's parabox
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1333470 alex kidd in miracle world dx
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1389360 mech armada
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1395760 reshaping mars
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1399700 kapital
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1508000 venice 2089
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1511460 infraspace
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1588380 blaster master zero 3

anyway regarding stuff i have now tried so far
Great:
Norco

don't really need to talk about this one but i really liked norco. future point and click masterpiece, probably

Good:
Deadeye Deepfake Simulacrum

liked this a lot too, though it's also pretty difficult

Okay:
Sable
Sephonie
Labyrinth City
Project Beril
Endlight

sable seems pretty great but also there are a lot of bugs. there are many ways to softlock it and the text is broken are my two main takeaways from playing (and not yet finishing) the demo. Should be great by the time most of that is ironed out

sephonie is as hit or miss as one would probably expect of the anodyne dev in his most action-oriented game to date. the mechanics are poor, the art is poor (both intentionally and unintentionally) and the game is also rather poor...ly balanced with extreme difficulty spikes for some of the side content in the single room primarily showcased in the demo alone. on the other hand, the writing is brilliantly weird, the gameplay for interacting with... creatures is a step up from prior games (anodyne 2) and the optional side content is actually very satisfying to clear, even if i feel like it perhaps got too difficult with the controls in their current state

liked the charm of labyrinth city but not super big on the controls (it's also got mobile versions in development, and well, it shows). with the way the pathways wind, i suppose it was always going to be difficult to get the controls right but it still would've been nice to be able to use arrow keys. still interested in getting it on switch at least. also, narration isn't perfect and it would've been nice to be able to try other languages (there's at least a french one too but it can only be used with french subtitles...). also wish more things had more interesting interactions, like you can go and open a lot of windows and stuff but a lot of them don't really do anything... but there's so much happening in it anyway it's not a big deal

i get what they meant by project beril being like a strategy game now. the game's all about routing your cpu-controlled player so it is theoretically possible for them to survive what's being thrown at them. naturally, with the cpu being that good at dodging the patterns aren't exactly a walk in the park, which makes this pretty hard to get a hang of (thanks to the limited agency you have compared to the cpu). arguably a good educational tool, much like their actual danmaku tutorial game.

endlight is certainly an experience worth playing... once, and probably only once. unless it's $2 or less i doubt i'd buy it seeing as it's really that many minutes worth of content. it really is cool though.

Eh:
Wolfstride
The Owl and the Lighthouse

wolfstride would benefit from just having the story ripped out and just having like, a purely menu-based arcade battle system instead. the writing's pretty awful and there's pretty much no effort put into anything outside of the fights

i couldn't work out how to get all of the materials needed to make more wood carvings in the owl game which was a shame (since the game seems to be oriented around them...). also felt pretty mobile game-y. i peeked into the files and noticed there seems to be a lot of content and also english translated text planned so i might give it another shot eventually

Nah:
Sophia the Traveler
Golf Club Wasteland

sophia is less polished than most flash games. the lack of effort put into this really shows. most memorable part is a dancing... monkey, i think it was, that says "All the gay!" in a half-enthusiastic voice when you click on him. also i couldn't find the damn suitcase

i didn't realise golf club wasteland was port of an existing mobile game... also, the courses are awful, the "Radio from Mars" takes like 5 minutes before it loops and it's really bad in general, and sadly you don't get to control your golfer when moving to the next shot, even though you still have to wait for them to manually get there from off-screen

(also pretend i didn't accidentally copy the link below patrick's parabox before)

Town > Confinement > Shipshape > Bazaar > Robolab > Sanctum > Kurain > Chamber > Ninetails > Themis

jeez dd and soj area themes are forgettable. too atmospheric or just generic

whenever i hear solitary confinement i am vaguely reminded of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThJxtfTEMk and i can't really tell you why, my brain just associates them

Central Tower "Axis Pillar"
Subete no Yuri wa Chiri Hatete
Towards the Horizon

Gatewaterland>Hazakura>Drew>Berry Big>Lordly>Labyrinthia>Two Embassies>Tres Bien>Shady Workshop>Kurain

if lordly tailor was in a different series i think i'd like it a lot
speaking of hazakura almost fits in Shiren or PMD lol
drew studio is a great investigation theme for a rather unremarkable setting
gatewater land is hilarious and incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD6jycPuYKc

Title Theme
XaaaCi.
Sunjammer Midnight Special

it's unfortunate i have been too lazy to do rankings lately because today's got some ones at pretty noticeable extremes. hopefully once i'm not trying to play 50 videogames(demos) in a couple of days because of steam next fest (actually i've only got 15 downloaded but still)... for now i'll just say i'm mad match 2 happened and strange sunset is almost certainly comfortably in my top 20 for the contest, but i can't even consider voting for it

dang i didn't even notice that severed steel was there. digging the look of norco too

whops i forgot to include lightbringer and glyph (i was going to)
actually i could've sworn i even had a writeup for glyph before, no idea where that went. probably for the best that i wasn't the first to post it though since i remember i was going to say "what if metroid could fly? what if marble blast could platforms"

also accidentally didn't include these too
https://store.steampowered.com/app/651490/No_Longer_Home/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/777670/Okinawa_Rush/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/956140/Lifeslide/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1079830/Cris_Tales/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1311070/Greak_Memories_of_Azur/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1431170/Pepo/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1463780/Mohism_Battle_of_Words/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1537480/_/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1543030/_/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1574780/Skaramazuzu/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1594940/Little_Witch_in_the_Woods/

oops i was mistaken, tsugunohi was primarily a browser game before now (i played on smartphone though)

i noted down everything that caught my eye and wrote words with them for some reason so other people that aren't me can consider checking them out (there's a lot more than i can actually install right now lol)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/757310/Sable/ (i assume anyone that watched the sgf kickoff live remembers this one still anyway it seemed pretty cool)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/821880/Idol_Manager/ (idol trash. (mercifully, it's not just english voice acting now))
https://store.steampowered.com/app/941460/Death_Trash/ (gritty post-apocalyptic cyberpunk top-down action rpg. probably like fallout but more pixelated)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/986520/Ultra_Strangeness/ (latest surreal claymation game from Michael Rfdshir. Also very Hylics-esque.)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1035760/Glimmer_in_Mirror/ (quite a pretty metroidvania)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1094450/Spies__Soldiers/ (barebones but solid grand strategy game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1106830/Rainbow_Billy_The_Curse_of_the_Leviathan/ (paper mario color splash for gamers that refuse to try paper mario color splash)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1123050/GRIME/ (that game from one of the e3 conferences with an impossibly obtuse trailer with no meaning. apparently actually a metroidvania)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151050/Golf_Gang/ (okay it's basically just golf with your friends but it's still pretty cool. good soundtrack. golf gang represent)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1235450/Treasure_Drifter_Nian/ (pixel-based escort mission game. looks better than that description sounds)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1238450/Interference/ (reverse (hopefully) fnaf where you play as some security guard outside the building having to save people trapped inside... or just not. pretty sure i heard about this before at some point...)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1248840/Sephonie/ (3d platformer. latest game from the anodyne dev(s))
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1250900/Project_Beril/ (experimental shmup from the circle behind barrage musical with touch based movement and also AI-controlled movement)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1269710/Kainga/ ((apparently) challenging city building game where a lot of events can just ruin everything)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1281490/The_Night_is_Grey/ (survival dadgame. looks great)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1289990/Alans_Automaton_Workshop/ (programming with alan turing)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1299860/Endlight/ (aesthetically overwhelming rail non-shooter with a ton of custom-seeded procedurally generated levels)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1307580/TOEM/ (comfy top down adventure game BUT WITH PHOTO MODE)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1322300/Tsugunohi/ (a mobile-based horror game with a big legacy, now on pc and in english)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1331210/Wolfstride/ (1v1 turn-based mech battler. basically, front mission arena battles if they looked like teleroboxer in a megalobox art style)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1338030/_Entertainment_Simulator/ (be the media)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1351630/Ys_IX_Monstrum_Nox/ (it's ys ix, and it has a steam demo now)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1366200/Rog__Roll/ (solid-looking 2.5d pixel platformer. kirby-esque but has some nice mechanics of its own)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1366840/Moon_Farming/ (farming simulator 2121)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1368410/PSYCRON/ (metroidvania. clearly leans in hard on the metroid half. also seems to take additional cues from esa and axiom verge)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1410640/Syberia_The_World_Before/ (new syberia game. microids couldn't be trusted with the XIII remake but maybe this is more in their comfort zone)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1414400/Unnatural_Disaster/ (heck up cities)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1421790/Labyrinth_City_Pierre_the_Maze_Detective/ (adventure game in a hidden object world. based on a real series that isn't where's wally/waldo)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1439040/Squingle/ (super trippy vr game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1448760/The_Plane_Effect/ (a game about trying to return home, at all costs. trailer music hits hard)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1444980/Playhear__Square_Paper_City/ (artgame)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1451970/SATORI/ a (first-person) free running game in a zen world
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1466580/Tempus_Bound/ (pixel a r t)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1505310/Risu/ (ps1 clock tower-looking game, albeit less blocky and more atmospheric)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1523670/Eggy/ (a getting over it clone merged with bubsy)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1528030/Imagined_Leviathans/ (artsy survival game set in a very cold postapocalyptic britain)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1530800/Frank_and_Drake/ (rotoscoped adventure game with contemporary takes on frankenstein and dracula as roommates)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1532360/Joyspring/ (kind of like jump king but with more controls)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1538850/Grotto/ (deermen. cool art)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1543430/Terrain_of_Magical_Expertise/ (i'm extremely disappointed it doesn't actually have mmbn gameplay and also isn't an mmo)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1545990/Deadeye_Deepfake_Simulacrum/ (twin stick shooter where you hack everything to win.)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1556870/Golf_Club_Wasteland/ (someone seriously looked at golfing over it and thought "this is a good concept to make a seriou

Strange SoJ>Difficult>Cheerful>Stake>Russia>Enter>Suspicious DD>Elegant>Suspicious GAA>Capital>Naive>Lively GAA>Lively DD

i cannot be fair to duel destinies lively due to association with the scenes it plays in sorry

don't feel like checking on gaa2's ones this time after the overload of gaa1 here

also this set is way weaker than the first one and i'd pick aai2 strange over soj strange in a heartbeat

the rise in xbox sales might be because of indie live expo coverage come to think of it

i think they had stuff on xbox in it, maybe

Into Free -Dangan-
The Dark Messenger
Towards the Horizon

the funny thing is dangan reminds me of other gran turismo music. also i hate this match with a passion why would this be a r1 match. at least it gives me an excuse to not actually vote for blue line which i will probably never get over being here due to being a "popular twitch streamer" memesong

i don't care that strongly about vast poni canyon but still poor poni

atelier nekomellia

speaking of camellia nekomata (yes i used both jokes) i need to get around to his albums since uh... planet shaper and crystallized 5-6 years ago oops

also no respect for the "classics" like bassdrop freaks and edm jumpers in the poll smh

NFUN posted...

kiwi

they're called kiwiFRUIT ugh

but yes golden kiwifruit

sans undertale

Liber Ark
La Follia damore
Shop 'til You drop

last match is harsh. 2nd match is really rude (and sadly not as close).

Strange>Eccentric>Restless>Interesting>Happy>Noisy>Lamenting>Eccentric 07>>>Doubted>More Happy

strange people is a pretty cool song actually

well i was too late to contribute to the vote on this one really but

AJ>AAI2>JFA>AAI>AA>SOJ>T&T>GAA>LvW>DD>GAA2

i have no idea how to rank these ones really lmao. any gaps from 1st to 7th might as well not exist. ones below that are definitely a step below them but could also flip between them as well. unfortunate it's all more recent stuff, at least soj's is a return to form.

clearly the real reason he added kazuya is because he's rushing without thinking to fill the roster with more fighting game characters so he can get approval to upgrade akira to full character status now that virtua fighter is no longer a dead series

Battle! (Colress)
Bahram Attack -Nekomata Master Remix-
Wavetapper

my vote for who won e3 goes to the Indie Live Expo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTjzBJX5bI

Sim Broadway
Danger (ARM version)
444

i don't know whether i'd like 444 if it didn't have an identity crisis and accidentally become a paper mario song and then a fire emblem one

also holy shit danger arm

saveus.yooreka

it's laver, obviously

i recommend going back and watching the indie live expo if you wanna see indie game content it had this guy in it he owns

https://twitter.com/FallGuysGame/status/1401933219667267587

yeah there was. it was like 4 games and only one even looked indie. it was also nowhere near half an hour. so, yeah, as expected it sucked ass

yeah e3's actual "indie" showcases often tend to barely qualify as such lol

which is why it's a good thing there were so many actual ones this year like indie live expo (350ish mostly actual indie games), guerilla collective (35 also generally indie games) and wholesome direct (75 casual games for pc or switch). oh, and of course devolver/freedom games/eastasiasoft/limited run/yooreka/the uploadvr one which i didn't realise was happening until it happened

https://youtu.be/2LJdLhmZiPs the indie showcase (real thing) can be watched by going back about an hour and a half from right now

oh i had a look and it actually was a separate thing like i mentioned you're just an idiot

LusterSoldier posted...

I blame you for incorrectly reporting that there was an Indie Showcase happening today in the following post you made:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79491024/954897065

it literally just said indie showcase on the e3 site blatantly at this separate time from the wholesome one, and that has historically been a separate thing that is not from this Wholesome Games group that just started doing stuff like this last year in the absence of e3. i assumed it was, you know. their own one, especially since the wholesome direct was a whole hour long the other day and this only had a half hour timeslot before freedom games (and it again made absolutely no mention of wholesome games on it). also i told you i thought the guerilla collective day 2+wholesome direct would be a much more noteworthy event than this one and you ignored me so lmao

but yeah the wholesome direct was incredibly good. perfectly complemented guerilla collective day 2 as well

(i'm several days behind since i've been trying to watch all of it with a friend)