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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/31/18 3:42:46 PM
#272
really, I just don't care enough about these ideologies to differentiate between them. they're all despicable s***heads regardless of the specifics of their ideology


seems like i'm wasting my time having this discussion then
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TopicOcasio-Cortez is the worst thing that could have happened to the Democrats.
TheMikh
12/30/18 3:27:58 PM
#31
Cortez is like Bernie in that I think she's a breath of fresh air that's more in touch with the issues than the Democratic Party Establishment even if her prescriptions for those issues can be insane.

Edit: Also she's really cute.
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TopicR.I.P. Paul Walker
TheMikh
12/29/18 9:23:44 PM
#15
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Someone laugh at my damn video!

he wasn't driving tho
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TopicWhy do SJWers stop when it comes to protecting the rights of Christians?
TheMikh
12/29/18 7:26:34 PM
#28
CommonStar posted...
Which rights are you talking about?

presumably homeschooling / school choice rights

i'm sure some religious folk wish to have the right to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation or gender with respect to employment and services as well - i wish they wouldn't
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TopicDid you have any of these discontinued McDonalds items?
TheMikh
12/29/18 5:10:09 PM
#57
removing hi-c orange from the menu was a crime against humanity
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 2:07:54 PM
#145
PowerfulSageIRL posted...
Rogan is absolutely right-wing

his advocacy of allowing immigrants from mexico on moral grounds speaks volumes

if there's so much overlap between "neoconservatism", "paleoconservatism", "typical conservatism", "trumpism", and "neolibertarianism", I don't see much point in differentiating between them

it's an important starting point if you want to understand why they're at odds with each other - why neocons hate paleocons and vice versa, why paleocons lost their **** when trump bombed syria, why the gop hates trump and trump supporters hate the gop establishment, and why some people have the nerve to call themselves "libertarians" while also supporting bombing foreign countries

there's a great deal of differentiation on organic citizenship and the role of government, even if the views of those claiming to be of one camp or another have overlaps here or there

hanson, for instance, is a democrat with paleocon social/political views and neocon foreign policy views

the "alt-right" and "trumpism" boxes should not be completely separate

there was a major realignment in the self-proclaimed alt-right after the election, and anyone who did not support ethnopluralism (see: people who did not support racial nationalism) abandoned the label, while the racial nationalists ditched trump as it became increasingly apparent he was not one of them

what differentiates "ethnic pluralism" from "ethnic cleansing"?

segregation vs genocide

Pinochet was a fascist

and he's on that dimension

calling Pinochet and Mussolini "Trumpists" is a bit like calling Jesus a socialist, or Shakespeare a feminist

some trump supporters are fascists, and pinochet and mussolini were not racial fascists, though mussolini was a cultural fascist

i'm not saying they're trumpists, but rather there's an overlap in that some trump supporters are civic or cultural fascists

jesus was very much a socialist, albeit of the anarcho-pacifistic variety, and shakespeare was very much a feminist, albeit not in the sense it's used today

right-wing ideologies are incompatible with populism since it they actively work against the better interests of the majority of people

the long-term game of populist ideologies is to build consensus among common folk - rather than politicians - towards a popular coalition in support of their views, even if their views do not reflect the present popular interests
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:43:05 PM
#114
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TheMikh posted...
he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation

lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason.

He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican.

honestly there's a powerful case to be made that the tremendous amount of economic and social gains regardless of race between the 1920s and 1960s was precisely because immigration - then primarily from europe - was closed so significantly, allowing for the melting pot to do its job and wages could rise proportional to real productivity gains in the economy
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:39:25 PM
#110
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TheMikh posted...
tulsi gabbard is another

She's an assad supporter. Thats not moderate in any way at all.

not to say he's not the latest in a dynasty of brutal strongmen

but perhaps she just doesn't want to exacerbate the geopolitical power vacuums we've created in the middle east, give islamist extremists any more leverage, or tip the scale further in the saudi-iranian proxy war seeing as saudi arabia is the greater of the two evils

also, assad seems to be pretty chill on the question of religious/ethnic tolerance compared to the alternatives

just a thought
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:35:36 PM
#107
Favorite posted...
TheMikh posted...
Favorite posted...
TheMikh posted...
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so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us.

including the president of the usa

https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD

I disagree with said chart

doesn't mean it's wrong

and doesnt mean its right either.

trump is fairly white ethnonationalist. maybe not full david duke, but close enough considering hes the potus

the hallmark of ethnonationalism is the support of racial segregation

he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation

also, being the only major politician to implicitly shed light on the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in socal is far from a white nationalist thing to do

also, white nationalists would be the last people to deport immigrants who were complicit in the actual german nazi party and holocaust back to where they came from - but guess what trump did
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:27:58 PM
#102
ThyCorndog posted...
TheMikh posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
the best is when their only response to being called out for being closet conservatives is something along the lines of "haha sjws just wanna label everyone right of them as conservative" and then never actually give us any of their moderate policy positions that make them moderate

a few years back when i still fell on the left-libertarian quadrant of the political compass, and a proponent of social justice within reason, someone on this very board called my black ass a nazi for suggesting that perhaps white folk were being a little unfairly demonized for social ills

i spoke to several democrats whose opinions i held in high esteem about my concerns with our wars of regime change in libya and syria and their responses were identical to neocon justification for the war in iraq

when moderates say their party left them behind, they are absolutely correct

that's a weird take imo cause "moderates" want democrats to keep being neoliberals and not go further left. moderates seem to like neoliberals more than social democrats/etc

there are both neoliberal and anti-neoliberal moderates

you are correct in that a lot of neoliberals and neocons are "moderates"

perhaps testament to the fact that the dimensions of mainstream american political ideology have grown far more complex than just democrats vs republicans, and those who lie at the intersection of both can still harbor extremist views on foreign policy and support tyranny of multinational corporations

it's possible, however, to be a moderate without being such - i like to cite dan carlin as an example of a sensible moderate; tulsi gabbard is another
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TopicNPC meme is so cringe
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:21:14 PM
#35
npc need not be an ideologically charged term

anyone who holds positions without thinking about or questioning them and simply reacts rather than thinking things through before they respond can be considered an npc

i spend time exploring ways my ideological leaning might be wrong, and actually struck some gold in the form a sound critique a couple days ago, and then proceeded to explore and research both counterpoints and reinforcement to the critique

i follow and engage with ideologues i do not completely agree with - left and right - to learn more about what they believe and identify where there are axiomatic bridges to be had

i am also very willing to criticize the candidates and party i voted for, and even faults/caveats within my beliefs

npcs, by definition, don't do any of this regardless of where they fall on the multidimensional ideological spectrum
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:02:31 PM
#93
Axiom posted...
They're really just conservatives that don't want to be identified as such so they claim to be "centrists" and "moderates". These same people hold a majority of opinions that are hard right

out of curiosity, what are hard right positions in your book
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:01:23 PM
#91
ThyCorndog posted...
the best is when their only response to being called out for being closet conservatives is something along the lines of "haha sjws just wanna label everyone right of them as conservative" and then never actually give us any of their moderate policy positions that make them moderate

a few years back when i still fell on the left-libertarian quadrant of the political compass, and a proponent of social justice within reason, someone on this very board called my black ass a nazi for suggesting that perhaps white folk were being a little unfairly demonized for social ills

i spoke to several democrats whose opinions i held in high esteem about my concerns with our wars of regime change in libya and syria and their responses were identical to neocon justification for the war in iraq

when moderates say their party left them behind, they are absolutely correct
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 12:49:08 PM
#88
PowerfulSageIRL posted...
TheMikh posted...
Favorite posted...
TheMikh posted...
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so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us.

including the president of the usa

https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD

I disagree with said chart

doesn't mean it's wrong

you are correct, it's not wrong because he disagrees with it. it is a bad chart no matter who disagrees with it

you're both absolutely welcome to critique it, but it reflects patterns derived from both my observation and engagement with the right over the past several years to gauge what they actually believe along the two dimensions, in opposition to erecting strawmen
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 12:41:08 PM
#83
ZeldaMutant posted...
Liberal: "Taxes should be more progressive"

Conservative: "Taxes should be less progressive"

Moderate: "Compromise! Abolish all taxes except a flat sales tax!"

liberals: a lot more taxes on the rich
moderates: a little more taxes on the rich
conservatives: less taxes on the rich
neolibertarians: abolish all taxes except a flat sales tax
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 12:38:45 PM
#82
Favorite posted...
TheMikh posted...
Favorite posted...
so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us.

including the president of the usa

https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD

I disagree with said chart

doesn't mean it's wrong
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 3:55:42 AM
#66
Favorite posted...
so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us.

including the president of the usa

https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 3:11:38 AM
#62
CrimsonRage posted...
there aren't that many actual communists. a lot of the people accused of being communists are people who have some socialist or socialist-lite ideas. and contrary to right-wing propaganda socialism is not the same as communism.

very few card carrying communists

far less ansyns, who in my book offer the only hypothetical path to some semblance of stateless communism and doesn't end in marxist-leninist ****ery

but there are a hell of a lot of totally not communist socialists that would like to see all wealth and capital redistributed by a government "by the people, for the people" and which silences dissension considered harmful to society

which sounds a hell of a lot like communism (edit: or state communism, anyway)

if i may offer a parallel: a lot of the alt-right might not claim to be nazis, but guess what they are
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 2:50:18 AM
#58
CrimsonRage posted...
my "favourite" moderate post:

>topic about some recent alt-right/nazis doing crap
"nazis suck but communists are bad too!

>topic about some antifa/communists doing crap
"man commies suck!" (no mention of nazis)

there are far more communists than nazis in this country

when nazis rallied in significant numbers and created trouble in '17, the next right-ish rally that was so little as misidentified as a nazi rally by the media had a counter-protest numbering in the tens of thousands

so it goes without saying that nobody likes nazis, and everyone is prepared to stamp them out at the drop of a hat - and rightfully so

but we're far too comfortable as a society with the prevalence of open communists, and the pervasiveness of communistic talking points in mainstream political discourse - they're not racist like nazis, but they're just as deadly when in power

mind you, we're probably not going to see a bolshevik-style revolution, but the creep of growing state power/reach and growing executive authority in conjunction with the leftward shift of the overton window should be just a little bit alarming
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Topic"Moderates" who attack liberals at every given opportunity but leave
TheMikh
12/29/18 2:36:42 AM
#53
ThyCorndog posted...
conservatives alone for the most part except they may do a hot take and say trump is stupid too

are they really moderates and why are there so many of them

[neo]liberals/democrats, despite being traditionally open-minded, grew so adamantly self-righteous that they refused to question or debate anything they believed or advocated

meanwhile, the massive leftward overton window shift of 2011-2016 has made moderates look conservative by comparison

following the bush era, neocons left conservatism in smoldering ruin, and during the obama years conservatives were really trying to figure themselves out again - which entailed an increasing amount of lowkey engagement with (and criticism by) moderates, rightist elements, and even some leftist elements

so basically, there's quite a bit of mutual understanding between all those groups - moderates, conservatives, leftists - and if you read their critiques of the [neo]liberal zeitgeist in the wake of the '16 election, they all had a far more intimate understanding of the state of affairs than [neo]liberals/democrats, whose broadsiding came as a total shock

unfortunately it seems many moderates have had a bit of a marriage of convenience with the younger neocons since they both hate trump - neocons because he's philosophically at odds with them, moderates because it's trendy i presume - meaning we run the risk of another bush-style republican in the future, which literally nobody outside the beltway ****ing wants

tl;dr: moderates spent years criticizing conservatives, but gave a blind eye to liberals, who they've more recently been taking on in the hopes of bringing them back to earth
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TopicI should have never moved in with my girlfriend.
TheMikh
12/29/18 2:07:38 AM
#16
MrDrMan posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
It's backwards because you don't get laid? Lol. Are you sure there aren't more graver problems?


Thats backwards to me. Its not realistic IMO to sustain a relationship without sex.

I honestly dont know. I feel like shes upset often and Im left confused like wtf did I do? I genuinely dont get it.

if she cannot communicate what is bothering her, it's probably not meant to be

also, if she tapers off the sex as the relationship progresses, but well after the honeymoon period where the decline is to be expected, that might be an overlooked red flag coming to fruition
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TopicI should have never moved in with my girlfriend.
TheMikh
12/29/18 2:05:50 AM
#15
MrDrMan posted...
However, at the same time shes the type to get jealous if I got a hobby and had new friends. Specifically female.

Its just kinda frustrating.

having one close female friend is a great way to keep your gf on her toes - but if her self esteem is low enough though, she may project fantasies of you together and act like she's not good enough in an attempt to guilt trip you or some stupid **** like that

with that said, gfs that get mad because you have hobbies or meaningful aspirations to focus on are perhaps the worst; last ex actually dumped me while i was in the middle of studying one evening like i didn't spend time with her multiple times each week
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TopicI should have never moved in with my girlfriend.
TheMikh
12/29/18 1:52:04 AM
#8
Turtlebread posted...
wow you got played
this is why you don't date anyone for longer than 6 months

correction: ninety days
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TopicStore employee has a screaming MELTDOWN over a Trump shirt.
TheMikh
12/28/18 8:59:46 PM
#101
Forgettable posted...
Let's say the store owner was a Trump supporter and the guy recording had a fuck Trump shirt on, and this exact exchange happened. Do you change who you side with?

the customer in both scenarios
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TopicI miss borders
TheMikh
12/28/18 6:20:05 PM
#12
not sure i ever went there, but watching footage of laurie z's concert(s) there back in the mid-90s, it looked comfy and chill af
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Topicsomeone just ordered $500 of SSD's on my amazon account... but using their card?
TheMikh
12/28/18 6:06:03 PM
#33
Serious Cat posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
if there's no way to know if the 3rd address is the fraudulent purchaser or not, there's nothing really else to do.

Amazon has access to IP information. They'll take care of it.


It's not implausible that these very orders are being placed through proxies or compromised machines, in addition to the compromised cards and billing addresses.
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TopicTIL The Gamecube is closer in time to the NES than Gamecube is to present day
TheMikh
12/28/18 4:11:15 PM
#8
We're closer to 2050 than 1985.
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TopicOk CE...should I lower my standard for girls, or keep getting rejected?
TheMikh
12/28/18 4:04:30 PM
#19
lower standards in looks

do not lower standards in personality
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Topicattn: CEers who have slept with their ex after breaking up, i need advice
TheMikh
12/28/18 10:41:28 AM
#13
supercrono posted...
Doesn't matter, had sex

ex sex is the grand exception
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Topicattn: CEers who have slept with their ex after breaking up, i need advice
TheMikh
12/28/18 10:21:20 AM
#7
never sleep with an ex; the breakup happened for a reason

those of us who have gotten back with an ex have inevitably learned this - for some, the hard way
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TopicThose mcdonalds workers who put your fries in the takeaway bag upside down
TheMikh
12/28/18 12:01:51 AM
#27
smoliske posted...
I can't even count on one hand the times I've been to McDonald's in the last few years

i virtually never went to mcdonalds for years, but then i moved from the city to the boondocks

my dining options are limited out here, especially at night
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TopicThose mcdonalds workers who put your fries in the takeaway bag upside down
TheMikh
12/27/18 11:55:03 PM
#24
this has never happened to me
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TopicIs Carlos Mencia dead?
TheMikh
12/27/18 9:02:04 PM
#8
i thought carlos mencia was okay
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Topic2020 Election: John Kerry vs. Mike Pence
TheMikh
12/27/18 8:19:00 PM
#4
neoliberal vs neocon

why the hell would you give me such terrible choices

i'd vote constitution probably
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TopicNationwide Internet Outage Today
TheMikh
12/27/18 8:05:35 PM
#28
i had an outage on christmas eve

today's been fine
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Topic500 million, but you have to move once a month, for the rest of your life
TheMikh
12/27/18 8:04:06 PM
#3
moving houses once a month is a hell of a hassle
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TopicWhy Mark Zuckerberg has an unattractive wife.
TheMikh
12/27/18 7:53:02 PM
#11
i'm not a fan of zuckerberg but there is nothing wrong with his wife
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TopicSo you can make fun of Trump's skin color and it's OK
TheMikh
12/27/18 7:52:01 PM
#28
monkmith posted...
LRodC posted...
But you cant ever make fun of Obamas skin color

Why is this?


regardless of how folks feel about the question posed by tc, this response was perfect
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TopicAmerica peaked in the year _____
TheMikh
12/27/18 7:49:35 PM
#37
KStateKing17 posted...
Nineteen Ninety Mutha Fuckin-One

but the chronic hadn't even dropped yet

legendary_zell posted...
Prolly 2015. Way too many people weren't included in the "golden age" of the 40s-60s. At least half the population in women and then every type of minority group you can imagine. That was an especially big problem up until the 2000s. The first decade had Bush, wars, and the great recession. The economy was basically at its current state in 2015 and reality hadn't yet fallen off a cliff.

reality was an illusion and still is

folks are just a little more cognizant of it now
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TopicMan fan died at the room shot up to 97 degrees
TheMikh
12/27/18 6:17:41 PM
#2
97 degrees during winter?
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TopicRap fans what's an album that would sway someone from all rap is crap?
TheMikh
12/27/18 5:09:11 PM
#48
Metaphorical Music
Deltron 3030
Modal Soul
Exmilitary
MBDTF
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TopicWhat's it like to bang a thick thigh, wide hips, big titty girl?
TheMikh
12/27/18 2:30:52 AM
#25
alimajor posted...
with bigger girls its a little....riskier.

gotta live a little
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TopicDo All Trump Supporters Think the Same?
TheMikh
12/26/18 11:59:16 PM
#16
i don't agree with everything she says
but good god joy villa is a babe
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TopicAmerica peaked in the year _____
TheMikh
12/26/18 2:37:44 PM
#10
Guide posted...
TheMikh posted...
as a share of global gdp, sometime between 1940 and 1950

at the intersection of economic prosperity and family cohesion, sometime in the 1950s or 1960s


This is actually really good bait.

how so
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TopicWould 72 virgins really be that great?
TheMikh
12/26/18 2:35:19 PM
#22
Space_Man posted...
It's actually grapes. 72 grapes.

maidservants

not explicitly virgins though

edit: and the number is not specified
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TopicAmerica peaked in the year _____
TheMikh
12/26/18 2:34:00 PM
#8
as a share of global gdp, sometime between 1940 and 1950

at the intersection of economic prosperity and family cohesion, sometime in the 1950s or 1960s
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TopicWhat's it like to bang a thick thigh, wide hips, big titty girl?
TheMikh
12/26/18 2:08:27 PM
#17
smo86 posted...
hot af

and thick hips means you can be tougher tbh

shelf hips are best hips
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TopicWhat's it like to bang a thick thigh, wide hips, big titty girl?
TheMikh
12/26/18 2:01:04 PM
#12
feels good man

tends to come with an awful personality though
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TopicImagine if X was alive this song would probably make him a RAP superstar.
TheMikh
12/26/18 11:27:43 AM
#7
50Blessings posted...
That's not DMX

Also X ain't dead.

this, dmx is the one and only x
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Topic*wishes female friend Merry Christmas*
TheMikh
12/26/18 7:36:24 AM
#21
sever contact, you're clearly into her and she's not into you
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