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Topici love how brainwashed most of CE is into thinking guys should pay on dates
That_Happened
09/15/17 3:53:01 PM
#43
LittleRoyal posted...
That_Happened posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
Don't say you want to take me on a date if you want me to pay

Then it's really just hanging out since I don't have a relationship with you yet


In a relationship then, where the guy is paying for everything, you're obligated to have sex with him any time he wishes, correct?


Eww and no.
First date
He asked me out
He should pay


I'm not understanding why your time is so valuable that you should be paid for it.
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Topici love how brainwashed most of CE is into thinking guys should pay on dates
That_Happened
09/15/17 3:34:31 PM
#33
LittleRoyal posted...
Don't say you want to take me on a date if you want me to pay

Then it's really just hanging out since I don't have a relationship with you yet


In a relationship then, where the guy is paying for everything, you're obligated to have sex with him any time he wishes, correct?
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Topici love how brainwashed most of CE is into thinking guys should pay on dates
That_Happened
09/15/17 2:54:46 PM
#27
LittleRoyal posted...
For real if he asks me out then yeah he should at least offer. He is the one who invited me to go


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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/15/17 10:51:09 AM
#189
Vindris_SNH posted...
On changing opinions; same here. A wise person will always have an open mind. They'll always be looking for someone to prove them wrong, and willing to accept when they're wrong.


...?

You've repeatedly said that you were clearly right, stating scientific facts, and that you would never change your opinion on this issue. You called anyone who opposed you the scum of the Earth!
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TopicCop that shot/killed suspect then planted evidence found not guilty.
That_Happened
09/15/17 10:18:23 AM
#11
_OujiDoza_ posted...
"Going to kill this motherfucker, don't you know it." His attorney, Neil Bruntrager, challenged the quotation, claiming there was too much static to hear exactly what was said. Stockley, however, testified he had listened to the recording and conceded he said the line or something very close to it. He said he didn't remember saying it but was sure he didn't mean it literally.

_OujiDoza_ posted...
An analysis of the Taurus showed only Stockley's DNA on the handgun, but even that was inconclusive. Stockley was wearing gloves throughout most of the incident but took them off to search the Buick, leaving open the possibility that he transferred DNA to the gun when he retrieved it from the car.

...
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TopicPerson A calls person B the N word and person B starts punching them, whos wrong
That_Happened
09/15/17 1:02:55 AM
#134
muchdran posted...
That_Happened posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Kineth posted...
And it amazes me that people think fighting words are protected speech.


What's amazing is that you think unprotected speech is deserving of violent repercussions.

I believe that "fighting words" are considered to immediately breach the peace. So (if true) if you don't want violence, don't breach the peace.

So I could beat the shit out of you, if I don't agree with what you're saying?

I'm not sure exactly, wrt racial slurs. But we need to stop with the "If I don't agree with what you're saying" garbage. If you call somebody a racial slur it's not like that's a debate where one person simply "disagrees with the other"--you're trying to incite the other person to violence, and in lots of cases that's not allowed.
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TopicPerson A calls person B the N word and person B starts punching them, whos wrong
That_Happened
09/14/17 11:24:08 PM
#127
PtlessAgmnts posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
You can tell who in this topic gets a few too many of their social cues from message boards

Not being a hooligan is standard adult behavior.

More importantly than that, not fucking with people or calling them names or instigating fights with them is standard adult behavior. Frisbee is right--too many social outcasts on this board who think that their internet trolling should be just as accepted in real life.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 5:50:17 PM
#146
Vindris_SNH posted...
I wasn't trying to use that statement as a logical argument. I wasn't trying to appeal to anyone's prejudices. I was expressing my opinion.

"I was appealing to emotion, but in that moment I'll claim I wasn't using it as a logical argument so it doesn't count."

"When have I appealed to emotion? Oh but don't use any of the countless other times I've argued about this. You can only use statements from this topic, and only when I tell you I'm making actual arguments."

"My opinion on abortion has nothing to do with my religion. Except I've said in the past that it totally does, but I realize that kills my argument so I'll pretend as if my belief is totally secular now."

"This isn't scientific proof so it's inadmissible. But Christianity is truth."

You're a walking contradiction.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 5:15:10 PM
#121
Vindris_SNH posted...
That_Happened posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Feel free to cite and explain a single emotional appeal I've made in this thread.


Your very first post was an emotional appeal!

Vindris_SNH posted...
Calling abortions "unprofessional" is a profound understatement.


You do not understand what an emotional appeal is.


An emotional appeal is when you bring something that is dishonest as a logical argument that appeals to the prejudices of the listener/reader, rather than a sober assessment of the situation. Trying to equate the legal definition of a doctor "behaving unprofessionally" to your moral position on legal abortion is absolutely an emotional appeal.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 5:13:01 PM
#117
Vindris_SNH posted...
Maybe try and consider what I've posted in this thread, and not just things I've said in other threads. What you're doing is called deflecting.


Actually I've tackled your fallacious positions head-on, *and* I've brought in further information from previous discussions to build my argument about your motives and emotional appeals.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 5:10:01 PM
#110
Vindris_SNH posted...
Feel free to cite and explain a single emotional appeal I've made in this thread.


Your very first post was an emotional appeal!

Vindris_SNH posted...
Calling abortions "unprofessional" is a profound understatement.

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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 5:01:24 PM
#99
Tmaster148 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I also like "scientific fact" and "isn't exactly scientific"


anti-science people aren't well known for understanding science.


Also consider the fact that we're talking to someone who has literally made the following two statements:

Vindris_SNH posted...
The definition of personhood isn't exactly scientific, so I wonder why our laws on abortion now revolve around some imaginary concept.


Vindris_SNH also posted...
Nah it just made me think of how the Bible says Christians will be hated.

It makes sense. When you have the truth, and people don't like the truth, they live in denial of that truth and hate those who believe it. No other religion is unfairly hated more than Christianity.

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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 4:56:36 PM
#92
Asherlee10 posted...
Banning abortion strips rights away from the mother (who has personhood) and transfers it to a fetus that does not have personhood. Rights are assigned to persons.

You tried this before with him. He does not care about personhood:

Vindris_SNH posted...
I already stated that I understand that, but that I think the debate over "personhood" is ridiculous.

The definition of personhood isn't exactly scientific, so I wonder why our laws on abortion now revolve around some imaginary concept.

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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 4:47:38 PM
#88
Vindris_SNH posted...
Feel free to cite and explain a single emotional appeal I've made in this thread.


"Protecting our own kind is a basic human instinct we all possess."
"Killing humans because they inconvenience you is evil."
"I care about human life, especially when it has never done anything wrong to anyone, and is helpless."
"HEY YOU DIDN'T USE A CONDOM SO NOW YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO KILL A BABY! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!"
"I still don't understand why in 2017 people want to murder babies."
"It's sad that so few pro-lifers have had the balls to stand up for what's right in this thread. I'm sure you guys are reading. Shame on you."
"No I don't. I don't "calm down" over you supporting the execution of humans because they don't possess a philosophical quality that you believe in. This is something worth getting fired up over."

and my favorite:

"Well, I just lost my job and my wife died in a plane crash. I have no family or help and I'm forced to live in an alley. My 1 year old son is going to have a shitty life now so I might as well kill him."

^Is there something wrong with this?


These are all from just a month ago.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 4:37:44 PM
#84
Vindris_SNH posted...
Never once said that.

That is what your argument says.

Vindris_SNH posted...
Emotional appeal.

No, your argument is the emotional appeal. What I am talking about is what actually happens when people are refused the right to abortion. What you are talking about is entirely speculative, and completely based on your emotions--remember, you are the one who says anyone who is pro-choice is reprehensible scum of the Earth. So don't kid yourself about which side is based in emotion.

Vindris_SNH posted...
Again, my concern for the living is exactly why I am pro-life.

No, your lack of care for legal human beings because you think they're reprehensible if they consider abortion, and your romanticized beliefs on what pregnancy actually is, is why you're pro-life.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 4:20:49 PM
#71
Vindris_SNH posted...
Here's a great piece, written by a secular pro-lifer. It more eloquently explains my stance on abortion than I could.

http://www.prolifehumanists.org/secular-case-against-abortion/


This piece is not "great." What is says is what you've always said: "The potentially existing matter more than the already existing." And I disagree with that. "Secure the mask to your own face before applying it to others."

I cannot in good faith tell parents of 2 that they have to be parents of 3 because of an accident that they tried their best to prevent. I cannot tell a pregnant 16 year old to all but doom her and her child to a life of poverty because of a mistake she made. I cannot imagine telling a woman who was raped "hey, put your trauma aside and think of the child you could be raising that reminds you of your attacker on a daily basis for the rest of your life." The rights of the living will (and should) always come before the rights of potential life. To suggest otherwise, because of Jesus or because of some romanticized version of how pregnancy would be in a utopia, is dangerous and it shows a complete lack of care for the living.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 3:54:14 PM
#50
Vindris_SNH posted...
That_Happened posted...
Bullshit. Your whole stance is two pronged:

1. Anyone who is pro-choice is a despicable human
2. "Life begins at conception, look it up."


You clearly don't understand my "whole stance".


Well you're right, in that I forgot point #3: "Jesus Jesus Jesus."

But we've seen you go through this a thousand times before. You admit that abortion is the thing that triggers you most. You have no stance beyond "Life begins at conception because I (and my Christian-based sources) say so," and you know it's not a defensible position, so you regularly refuse to engage in level-headed discussion about the topic. You think (and have said plenty of times before) that people who get abortions or are pro-choice are literally the scum of the Earth. So why engage you in debate, and more, why do you even enter these topics? If you think we're all morally reprehensible, and you don't want to actually discuss the issue, and you think we can't be reasoned with, why are you here?
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TopicPerson A calls person B the N word and person B starts punching them, whos wrong
That_Happened
09/14/17 2:46:26 PM
#111
Deadpool_18 posted...
Kineth posted...
And it amazes me that people think fighting words are protected speech.


What's amazing is that you think unprotected speech is deserving of violent repercussions.

I believe that "fighting words" are considered to immediately breach the peace. So (if true) if you don't want violence, don't breach the peace.
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TopicPerson A calls person B the N word and person B starts punching them, whos wrong
That_Happened
09/14/17 2:04:34 PM
#103
thanosibe posted...
Two white guys in same scenario would been off the front page before it even got one post.


I agree, but only because if it was two white guys people would say "Why would you go up and aggressively be a dick to someone and NOT expect retaliation?"
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 12:04:01 PM
#13
Vindris_SNH posted...
My stance on abortion has nothing to do with the Bible.

Bullshit. Your whole stance is two pronged:

1. Anyone who is pro-choice is a despicable human
2. "Life begins at conception, look it up."

The first one is your moral code dictated to you by the Bible. With the second statement, you linked to the Charlotte Lozier Institute as "proof," which is a morality compass trying to pass itself off as scientific research (their reputation for reporting facts is notoriously terrible) and it's literally run by a staunch Catholic man who has for years tried to find ways to defund Planned Parenthood based on his religious beliefs.
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TopicWhether you are for or against abortion
That_Happened
09/14/17 11:50:32 AM
#6
Vindris_SNH posted...
Calling abortions "unprofessional" is a profound understatement.


Fortunately our country's laws and regulations aren't restricted to the moral code of Bible thumpers.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 7:13:47 PM
#82
Funkydog posted...
But short people can reach things lower down more easily, where tall people have to bend over and have back problems.

The first post continues, saying that the best items are on the top shelf.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 7:10:58 PM
#80
NINExATExSEVEN posted...

My recent ex was black and she had people treat her much better in everyday social interactions because she was black AND a female.

...Isn't it kind of strange that you would take her word over literally millions of black people who have had the opposite experience?
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 6:39:55 PM
#73
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Little everyday interactions I understand. Help minorities being bullied. Don't say racist things etc.

But how are whites supposed to pick minorities up and help them reach the higher shelf?

I think the idea is that if we strive for parity then over time all will right itself.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 2:23:36 PM
#64
darkjedilink posted...
'If you have a house, white people, give it to a minority.'

"Jews will not replace us."

Both are equally representative of those who say "white privilege" and those who say "white privilege doesn't exist."
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 1:57:51 PM
#58
Balrog0 posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
If you or anyone else thinks that there isn't some legit and widespread anti-white sentiment going around (especially towards lower class ones), to the extent that there are other people literally wishing suffering and death on me to my face because of my race, then you're either fucking dense, or you're secretly a supporter of that mindset (so of course you're going to downplay/ignore it).


I've never seen this happen once in my entire life. I live in little rock, arkansas


I haven't seen this in real life either. Only on the internet, and mostly only when I actively go looking for it, or when I'm on CE (which is full of posters who actively look for it). I'm not saying it never exists, but to call it "widespread" seems very wrong to me.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 1:07:22 PM
#53
Balrog0 posted...
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Quite the contrary actually, I have been quite often told that I deserve to suffer and get nothing because somehow that's "payback" or "justice" for me being born white.


who says this to you quite often?

I'm also interested in the answer to this question, @Inferno_Dive_Dragoon
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TopicSum up "What Happened" in one or two words
That_Happened
09/13/17 1:06:42 PM
#2
Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 12:13:09 PM
#48
josifrees posted...
Also can we have some examples of how white privilege advantages can be used to help the disadvantaged?


I can think of a couple of times when I was in school when a black kid was being treated unfairly by an authority figure and no matter how much he pleaded his case it took me or one of my white friends speaking up for him before anyone would even begin to listen.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 12:11:33 PM
#46
FLUFFYGERM posted...
And I've already shared an example of a BLM leader demanding much more than white people just calling out injustice when they see it. You're trying to present a moderate approach even though the trend I see doesn't seem moderate.


That's because you're incorrectly defining isolated incidents of crazy people getting an article in a small-time local tabloid as "trends." Darkman124 is being reasonable and looking at the big picture. You're being insane and trying to take a narrow focus and make it mean more.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 12:01:47 PM
#37
FLUFFYGERM posted...
the problem is that the left is being more and more radicalized into those insane points of view. you don't have to look far to find more people espousing the same ideology.


I have to look very far to find anyone suggesting anything like the contents of that shit article you posted.

Here's reality: YOU don't have to look far because you regularly scour the internet for that kind of garbage to raise your rage levels so you can post your fake outrage here. But for normal people who have normal interactions with other normal people, you're not seeing much of that in actual everyday life.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 11:58:32 AM
#32
FLUFFYGERM posted...
anyone pretending that "white privilege" isn't a precursor to being asked and expected to do things if you're white is outright lying

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/


Anyone pretending conservativism isn't a mental illness is outright lying

*links to infowars*

Seriously, taking an extreme position and applying it to everyone within a subset is always a stupid fucking argument.
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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 11:24:18 AM
#18
ForestLogic posted...
That post is nice and all, though the takeaway I get from it is there's no real reason in pointing out white privilege then.

Based on that train of thought, there's black privilege, Asian privilege, Latino privilege, etc etc... all with their own drawbacks and benefits. But labeling each as such serves absolutely no purpose but to draw lines between human beings, which is honestly really fucking backwards IMO.


Recognizing that certain groups have certain privileges is how we know who can help in which situations.

Darkman124 posted...
i think one of the easiest ways for white women to relate to the idea is in turning to the issue of women needing men to help them deal with harassment by other, toxic men

fundamentally harassment/assault of women happens behind the backs of men. i've almost never seen a guy be a shit to a woman when i was directly interacting with her. it happens the second we turn our backs.

when men recognize their privilege (to not be victims of sexual assault or sexual harassment) and make that behavior unacceptable by increasing their vigilance and standing up to the victimizers, women benefit. it doesn't mean that men would then have to get harassed or feel unsafe.

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Topicinteresting post about white privilege i found on FB
That_Happened
09/13/17 10:48:33 AM
#5
Asherlee10 posted...
Wouldn't you say that most of us have advantages over others in some form or fashion?

A short person might have an easier time buying clothes that fit, for example.


Yes. The hard part is getting people (who naturally think almost everything is balanced) to realize when their advantages are so much more valuable and higher in number than most other groups.
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TopicWhite House wont commit to signing joint congressional resolution condemning
That_Happened
09/13/17 10:33:03 AM
#15
He denounced the white supremacists very quickly after Charlottesville. He should have no problem signing this.
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TopicI feel the N word is a massive disappointment and failure of freedom of speech.
That_Happened
09/12/17 4:56:43 PM
#36
VandorLee posted...
Yeah, man, im just the worst ugly stupid person ever with no friends or anything and fail at everything. I dont see the relevancy to the topic but yeah, I just suck at everything.


The relevancy to the topic is, you aren't ever leaving the house so you're fine. You can swear as much as you want in the privacy of your bedroom. Even if you streamed it, no one would watch your channel in the first place. You're all set to use any slur you want. You're free!
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TopicI feel the N word is a massive disappointment and failure of freedom of speech.
That_Happened
09/12/17 4:48:28 PM
#20
VandorLee posted...
Nowadays i feel i can go on an absolute vulgar/curse word tirade and no one bats an eye but literally saying the n-word under ANY circumstance is like a news story

You're not important enough to do a news story about.

VandorLee posted...
Oh well, the simple fix is i simply dont hang around anyone

You could have stopped here. Because this is likely your life.
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TopicBlack Couple sit during anthem, Citizen calls them racial slur
That_Happened
09/12/17 4:39:25 PM
#22
Terra-enforcer posted...
AlimNassor posted...
I went too far. I apologize for supporting America.

I'd love to see your ass say some shit like that to someone irl. I have the moral constraint not to lay a hand on you, but not many are the same. I know you sure as hell wouldn't say shit like that if you couldn't hide behind the computer in your mother's basement.


Easy there, lol. He's a gimmick account who is pretending to be a giant racist. That's like 20% of the accounts here. He's not a real human being. In all likelihood, life has already kicked the shit out of him. Try to laugh at the stupidity of someone wasting their time to create an account for that purpose.
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TopicBlack Couple sit during anthem, Citizen calls them racial slur
That_Happened
09/12/17 4:35:43 PM
#16
smoke_break posted...
is this a real post. my goodness.


In another topic he also said the racial slur for blacks is something he and most other white people have decided is ok to say, so "tough" if you don't like it, but the racial slur against white people was "vile and repulsive, and he dare not even say it."

Basically he won't last long.
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TopicBlack Couple sit during anthem, Citizen calls them racial slur
That_Happened
09/12/17 4:32:01 PM
#10
That's a great picture of the guy who said it. He looks like a caricature of the type of person who would.
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TopicHow badly would CE freakout if a major black streamer said racist things about..
That_Happened
09/12/17 1:06:36 PM
#25
omega cookie posted...
So, I don't give a single half of a whole fuck about racism. What I do care about, however, is laughing at stupid people.


But a moment ago you said you had "your own shit to deal with." If focusing on yourself is your priority and you "don't care about shitbags on the internet saying dirty words," you probably shouldn't care about shitbags on the internet saying incorrect things either.
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TopicHow badly would CE freakout if a major black streamer said racist things about..
That_Happened
09/12/17 12:41:49 PM
#21
omega cookie posted...
Continue to not give a shit about race relations, same as now. I have my own shit to deal with, I can't imagine anything I care less about than some shitbags on the internet saying dirty words.


...According to your posting history, you've been regularly posting in about 7 or 8 race topics over the last couple days. Let's be honest with ourselves: constantly talking about something doesn't really suggest you "don't give a shit about race relations."
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TopicHow badly would CE freakout if a major black streamer said racist things about..
That_Happened
09/12/17 12:39:09 PM
#19
--kresnik-- posted...
When you have an active president (obama) basically take sides in a race battle and tell you that you're solely at fault for every problem in the world


Never happened. But people like you *are* solely at fault for every problem in the world. People who make shit up and fake outrage. You're the worst.
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TopicWhat does "crunchatize me cap'n" mean?
That_Happened
09/12/17 11:40:56 AM
#7
I wondered that the other day when I saw it in the grocery store. Is it a form of "hypnotize?"
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