Lurker > SwayM

They werent kidding when they said Loki would be the show most crucial to the MCU going forward.

This sets up everything for years to come. So happy they actually went with Kang and didnt cop out in the end. Thanos wouldnt have had the weight that he did if he wasnt teased so many times before Infinity War.

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SwayM posted...

My point was about sex and dating. I just boiled it down to reproduction terms to make a general point of what organisms are trying to do as the end result of being alive in the first place what dating and sex leads to

The fact that I literally just explained what I said twice and you still didnt understand it. And are still arguing against a point I didnt make. Also doubling down with your shitty points of view for no reason is a choice look.

Chalk another yikes in the books. This is what happens when I try to talk you seriously. You end up spinning your wheels and making yourself look ridiculous. Fun to watch if nothing else.

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ROOTFayth posted...

are you an incel or something? because you're not looking at the whole picture, you're just cherry picking what makes you sad

Are you able to not respond with hyperbole?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


You wanna talk about yikes. Theres a few things in this post to point out. My point was about sex and dating. I just boiled it down to reproduction terms to make a general point of what organisms are trying to do as the end result of being alive in the first place what dating and sex leads to

The fact you saw that and thought I was trying say having babies itself is an advantage

Also maybe the biggest yikes of all is just the general fact that you thought of the miracle of childbirth and the first thing that came to your mind was pregnancies go terribly wrong, sometimes are you always like this? Do you tell your friends the horrors of pregnancy when they excitingly tell you theyre trying, or expecting?

Also, I feel the irony that needs to be stated here. Users like you who argue the man, and not the point and dont have shit for a moral compass end up showing your hand. You brought up pregnancies going wrong out of thin air. You also had nothing to do but troll when I made a topic about a year ago on how tasteless memes making fun of miscarriages are.

Big fuckin yikes from me my dude.

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Umbreon posted...

And the vast majority of women who aren't on OF but still have to put up with daily harassment?

Likely also have an endless stream of actual wholesome compliments from men and women.

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Proto_Spark posted...

People tend to only go on relationship subs when they have relationship issues.

Which would be Okay, except all the other people on the sub are there for the same reason, or even worse - they have relationship issues and think that its a good one.

this sums it up well also.

The people in the comments arent there to help. Theyre there to judge play god.

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Heres the thing about relationship advice on the internet. Reddit especially

Reddit literally believes theyre the front page of the internet. Thats their actual slogan.

Reddit has this toxic ego to it that is most easily seen on any kind of relationship advice subreddit. People come to them with real world problems and people with no real world experience, just LOVE to ply judge, jury and executioner.

Just remember these people are nobodies. They want to make villains out of anyone and theyre trolls. They dont care about advice or anything healthy. Its all just trying to feed this ego of judging people and acting like theyre not just another group of idiots on the internet


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Nintendo half-assing shit for decades and getting away with it because legions of fanboys who never question them and casuals who dont know any better.

Im sure Nintendo appreciates your loyalty as much as I appreciate having you around to prove my points.

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Sorry to interrupt your meltdown with logic. The last thing I want is to see Nintendo go away. I want to see what a Nintendo that tried as hard as everyone else is capable of. Everyone should want that.

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Good example of women having their cake and eating it too

while complaining that all men do is sexualize them and how Its absolutely disgusting, men are pigs etc.

Also easily make 6 figures on OFs
and empowering the whole thing go off girl. Get your bag

Playing all sides my dudes.

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TyVulpine posted...

^Thank you for proving my point, TC. I would bet my account if you were of saying one nice thing about Nintendo, but I know you are incapable of such a thing, you drink the MS and Sony kool-aid too much.

Youre doing a fantastic job of showcasing the maturity of Nintendo fans while also proving my point on how they get away with not trying.

Nintendo is extremely good at attracting blind followers. Was that nice enough for you to close your account and go away?

I dont really care either way.

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TyVulpine posted...

And yet, Nintendo is still around, so they are doing stuff that people still like. Smash Bros, Metroid, Pokemon, Mario, Donkey Kong Country, etc.

Meanwhile on Nintendo, oh look, another Mario game or another Smash game or another Pokemon game. I swear, Pokemon games are becoming the next Madden. Just add a few uninspired creatures, and boom two "new" games.

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Conflict posted...

Both men and women have their own their difficulties and struggles... neither are "easy mode"

Sad_Faces post above highlights a lot of the discrepancy between men and women in dating and how that affects your life as whole.

Its all about narrative though. While you probably just reply to that like you have, very reductionist and that.

Conflict posted...

You'd have to be a real close-minded idiot to think being a girl is easy just because they can get dates easier, but I sometimes forget what board I'm posting on.

Reproducing is literally what organisms are put on this earth to do. Is it the most important absolute in our reality and society? No, but its also not something to be dismissed either.

Its not the only advantage of being female either in my eyes. And in no way does having advantages doesnt mean there arent struggles either.

ROOTFayth posted...

if youre a man you get generally paid more for a job and given more credit for anything you say than women in general

This for example. If we want to push narratives. People say things like this and its accepted. As a man people give me more credit?

In what way? No single person is pushing Another man in STEM. Whoopie narrative but the opposite is absolutely pushed. Am I saying women shouldnt get credit for going into fields that they statistically havent previous? Of course not. Am I simply highlighting how society now cares what one does more than another? Yes.

Its not a perfect easy life just because youre a woman. But you absolutely have advantages men can never have, while still getting free reign to complain about any and all inequality and people will listen. Whether it actually exists or not. I think its only a matter of time before society realizes that instead of going from a male dominated society to an equal one. Weve subtly gone to one that favours females.



In so many words.


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Conflict posted...

You're dismissive of women's struggles because it's easier for them to date and easier for them to get support from randoms on the internet.

Like youre doing right now?


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Conflict posted...

Yikes

https://youtu.be/el0IR0YbBC4

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Women have it pretty good right now and anyone that says otherwise got some serious blinders on.

You get to take full advantage of the societal whiplash of becoming woke. People care what you have to say, any discrimination isnt tolerated. The whole world of dating and attracting a mate runs to your tune. Anything you do is celebrated as progress. And if ANYTHING doesnt go your way? You still get to complain about anything you like.

In first world countries that is.

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ultimate reaver posted...

Most Nintendo fans grade stuff on a curve because of their childhood. Its just the truth. There are some weird exceptions but far and apart its people that played Mario world or Pokmon ruby or whatever when the were eight and justify getting treated like shit for the next couple decades because of it

And see Im the opposite. I grew up with Nintendo same as anyone else. Theyve always been around in the 30 years or so Ive been gaming. There is strong nostalgia of how awesome they were when I was a kid.

But I wasnt brainless to see that again, around the end of the 64 era. The industry was blowing past them and the 64 was the last Nintendo console I truly gave a shit about. Its no coincidence. I quickly jumped ship to PlayStation and eventually Xbox, because they were simply doing things that Nintendont.


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legendarylemur posted...

Like literally Sony and MS are frequently working at a loss on this industry,

Selling consoles at a loss isnt the same as not turning a profit in the entire industry.

legendarylemur posted...

their games are often very homogeneous

I can think of a dozen examples of how this is nonsense. Sonys exclusives are extremely varied.

This is also a ridiculous point to make while defending a company thats put out console generation after console generation selling the same variation on Mario and Zelda games.

legendarylemur posted...

their developmental time takes forever, they lack the number of iconic IPs

Nintendo sits on a ton of iconic IPs and does fuck all with them. If it aint Mario or Zelda, they really dont care much about it. Star Fox. F-Zero. Earthbound. Pilot Wings (a person favourite). To name a few. Hell. Even more iconic franchises are shafted all the time. Mario RPG. Donkey Kong hardly gets any recognition. And Metroid has a lot of problems. Not including to your point above about long development times. Metroid Prime 4 was announced 4 years ago and all they have to show is a logo.

legendarylemur posted...

that they often run into months of games that majority of people don't care about
they are also heavily reliant on 3rd parties as a result which can result in the 3rd parties underperforming leading to terrible launches (like Cyberpunk 2077)

These two points here really show how far youre reaching.

Without third party titles there would be no video game industry. First party games make up such a small percentage of what is produced.

Saying no one gives a shit about them and the odd one might fail is a nonsense reduction of reality.

Twiddling your thumbs waiting for a handful of first party titles over the course of an entire consoles life cycle may be what Nintendo fans do. But over here in reality we have endless second/third party games and so many of which are phenomenal. Because like Ive been saying since the jump. Nintendo isnt making or capable of making the same calibre of games as other developers.

legendarylemur posted...

There isn't really like a gold standard for running a video game industry.

Gold standard isnt the term I would use. I would say theres a pretty low bar, and the fact that Nintendo often fails to reach it is as embarrassing as it is in unacceptable. Theres no excuse for them to be ancient in this industry that constantly moves forward. This is literally what the gaming industry has been since its inception. It moves forward. At some point Nintendo stoped moving forward with the rest (around the end of the 64 era I believe). They planted their feet and let their mindless fan base come to them, instead of meeting the demands of gamers or the industry at large. And because so many gamers give them a free pass or even a pat on the back for not trying, are they able to do this.

In the same industry people complain about every other company being so anti consumer. Theres barely anyone holding Nintendos feet to the fire. You see it in this topic even. The classic weve tried nothing and were all out of ideas

Yeah the same complaints have been levied against them for decades, yet yall continue to say nothing changes. No shit? They dont listen because not only do people continue to buy into their shit. But the complaints arent treated the same. This shouldnt be an argument in this topic. You fighting me on keeping Nintendo complacent to mediocrity and unacceptable practices is proving theyre not treated the same.

What company is more vilified than EA? You can call them anti consumer and say they dont give a shit until the last star in the universe dies. But remember the reaction to Battlefront 2? Oh god it was endless complaints and whining. But If that many people complain and vote with their wallet, even the biggest and greediest companies move. EA went back on their scummy ideas for that game. Now from what Ive seen that game is doing very well and the community is still going strong.

Moral of the story. Stop giving No Effort Nintendo free passes they dont deserve.

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Bringit posted...

Nomura's plots are off the walls, way too convoluted and just exhaustingly presented.

This. And for me this next post highlights exactly why.

pegusus123456 posted...

In KH1, you reach Kingdom Hearts by gathering the Seven Princesses.

In KH2, you can apparently just create a fake one.

In Birth By Sleep, they introduce the x-blade and you get there by bringing together a heart of pure darkness and pure light.

In KH3, it turns out Xehanort was just being a lazy bitch and you actually need seven hearts of light and thirteen hearts of darkness.

Notice how after 1 Normura goes full batshit, and sticks his head right up his own ass?

imagine the ego on someone to strike this unparalleled deal with Disney, get nearly full access to the kingdom. And then almost immediately reduce all the Disney stuff to set dressing and make it completely irrelevant to the story. Because you need to write this garbage, convoluted fan fiction and you think thats what people actually give a shit about.

KH1 will always be the only game that actually worked in this series for me. And it was because of it actually blended Disney and JPRG elements in the perfect way. It never needed to get so complicated and messy. Such a brilliant concept that unfortunately gets ruined so quickly. 2 was okay, but nothing can match the first.

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Fries obv. They go stale like immediately

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Polycosm posted...

Now it's a race to split the base, and a company is failing if they don't revise their hardware within the first five years.

I still have my launch Xbone and PS4. Idk what the hell you taking about.

Darmik posted...

Because there isn't a single game that Nintendo develops that tries

Boom there it is.

Maybe a little hyperbolic. But this is the ultimate crux of it for me. Nintendo developers dont try as hard as other developers. And its not because theyre making different games. Theyre making games, just the same as other developers, but not as well

darkbuster posted...

I'm gonna go out on a limb & say that the TC is essentially butthurt over the Switch OLED not being the Switch Pro,

well first of all I dont have any plan to buy another switch. Nor do I pay attention to nintendo rumours. But I meanthe OLED seems like a completely useless system and everyone has fair criticisms on how lazy and poorly thought out it seems.


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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

In what way is the Switch not an ideal handheld system?

I dont think it should be understated that with the Switch being the system that it is. The library of Nintendo games that SHOULD be available on the system is literally millions of dollars left on the table.

They have to do next to nothing. Just port games they already have to their system. Its not rocket surgery.

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

how do you then explain the Wii-U being an embarrassment? By your logic it should have had success regardless of quality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

Still sold half as much as the GameCube for being a turd. I mean they got 13.5 million suckers we know for sure will buy any poorly marketed piece of crap they put out.

But youre right, Nintendo isnt immune to failure. I just think they get a lot of free passes and benefit of the doubt that Id obvious in this topic alone.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Japanese company paying attention to Japanese consumers who utilize mobile and handheld stuff way more than regular consoles?

How dare they!

Are you Japanese, or do you live in Japan? I ask because bringing this up as a defence only works if this is relevant to you.

You know Sony is also a Japanese company? The Vita was a great handheld device too. Until Sony made blundering decisions and killed their own product.

Nintendo would be guilty of the same. If people werent so blindly loyal.

Darmik posted...

Nope. Just a handful of PS2 games and literally nothing else. No sign of anything else being done or added anytime soon.

Shame.

Darmik posted...

But Sony Rockstar, Microsoft etc. don't know how to make a game like Nintendo either.

I mean Ratchet and Clank for one example.

Darmik posted...

etc. If the game didn't have the incredibly impressive visuals, attention to detail and writing what else is really left?

If you take away all matter? I mean whats so special about the universe?

This is an unfair reduction and you know it. It may be slow, which is a fair critique. But amongst the pieces youve listed, which arent to taken lightly in how well theyre realized. You have, oh idk, easily the best hunting game thats been created? In the middle of a classic western with all the rootin, rooting, train lootin, poker playing, cattle rustling, horse taming, cowboy hijinx a feller could ask for. I mean its not even that there is all this content in this massive game, and some of it is absolutely spectacular by itself. Its that its all expertly crafted at the highest level working in tandem with itself. Its not that it does just one thing really well. Nearly ever piece of it is operating at leagues anything a Nintendo game has done by comparison

Like BOTW. BOTW is largely about exploration elements. But BOTW also doesnt have the characters and writing that you may meet in your journeys as RDR. It doesnt have the wildlife or environment details, though it does have some attention to detail in its world... is it even remotely as immersive? At the core of it, is Link as well written, acted and realized as Arthur Morgan? How about any of the hundred characters you may meet In Your journey?

BOTW is a fun, solid turn your brain off adventure game, and thats all it really is to me. There isnt that many unique gameplay elements, and it really doesnt have that much going for aside from some decent game mechanic, but all pretty basic in their own way.

It doesnt even have fishingits such a basic example but this is literally the difference in caliber that Im talking about. Nintendo cant be bothered to include a decent fishing mini game in their epic adventure game. Does RDR2 have fishing? Of course it fucking does. Amongst all the other things it has. Theres a lot I could talk about in this simple mechanic alone. Like different Baits and lures. Legendary fish. The variety of boats you can use to fish from. But one the element that I want to highlight by comparison. Nintendo adventure game doesnt even have one of the simplest, easiest mini games. Rockstar adventure game has hours of dialogue and unique encounters dedicated to fishing as a pastime with your companions(you can take NPCs fishing and pass the time not only enjoying the mini game but learning something about the characters or just being entertained by dialogue).

This comparing a childs finger painting to a Rembrandt IMHO.


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I dodge and parry and counter attack.

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TyVulpine posted...

So its okay for you to criticize Nintendo, but not fair when people do the same in return to Microsoft? Double standard much?

Oh hun. You think I care about that.

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TyVulpine posted...

Better than the RROD Microsoft had...

Could you please make it less obvious how upset you are by all this criticism of Nintendo?

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Payzmaykr posted...

Joycons dont work lets make a system where theyre attached so you have to send the entire system in to have it repaired.

I hear you man. This IMO is a fair criticism but I could see an argument that this making the system cheaperor maybe just a more purpose built handheld?

I can somewhat understand that. I still hold on that its logically moronic too in many ways. Joycons being a thing they already produce en masswhy they couldnt just continue to sell them? Especially when they charge 100 fuckin dollarydoos for them? Its a baffling choice to create a product that doesnt push your accessory line tooI dont quite see the logic there. But lets assume since we have nothing else to go on they just makes the whole system cheaper.

youre still 100% right about it being a inevitable problem when your whole system shits the bed because of cheap ass joycons you cannot replace.

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TyVulpine posted...

Theres criticism, and theres waaah, Nintendo isnt doing what I demand they do, be exactly like Microsoft! How dare Nintendo do something different! which is what youre doing.

Im not even the only one in this topic criticizing Nintendo. I brought up Microsoft once, Ive also been using a Sony game as an example of a game Nintendo is not capable of producing.

All things someone who is at all paying attention could see, and not reacting emotionally and childishly could see.

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TyVulpine posted...

Cry moar TC. Youre making me laugh.

Please stop being so hard on Nintendo mister. They only make billions by not trying very hard. Could you not say anything nice??

lol Im not the one throwing a fit because you cant handle honest criticism of Nintendo. Ive said some nice things about them in this topic btw. But youre seeing what you want to see.

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Blue_Inigo posted...

TC's complaints about the Switch Lite are extraordinarily stupid. Way to completely miss the point of it

How are Nintendo fans unable to comprehend basic shit?

Talk about missing the point. Dear god Dude. Its not that hard. The Switch lite shooting itself in the foot is something Nintendo chose to do when they created it.

Darmik posted...

The Lite is a smaller system. So it would need its own dock.

Like this for example. The dock is just a USB-C sitting in the middle of a cheap plastic housing. And youre telling meinstead of Nintendo just creating a handheld switch that could dock into that portthey would need to create a whole new dock?

Or they just make the handheld a better product.basic shit my dudes

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Darmik posted...

They're still fun.

The theyre still fun defence falls short for me when other developers can not only create fun games , but they are pushing the industry forward in every facet off video game creation. While Nintendo actively holds it back.

Theres no defence to a company who cant compete on the same stage anymore. Saying this has been known criticism for decadesmakes the criticism more poignant. You realize that right? If you have decades of time to improve and dontthats not an excuse to be objectively BAD at the thing you do.

Theres no reason why Nintendo cant do a proper online experience. Why elements of their games and user experiences are archaic and and aggravating from a consumer standpoint. Animal Crossing is fun. You know whats also fun? Quality of life improvements and gameplay innovations that any decent developer could do in 2021. But Nintendo cant, and arent interested in doing do because people offer these horseshit free passes like youre doing.

Nintendo doesnt have to create Red Dead Redemption 2. Sure. They can get away with far less effort. We all know they could never even if they tried as hard as they could. But what they could do, is show the world theyre creating games in their wheelhouse that, while being fun, also pushed forward. Instead of constantly lagging behind or not moving at all. Maybe they could get there, but people like you are far too willing to give them a pat on the back for barely trying at all.

You know whats better than waiting years for a developer to grace you with a re-releasing of a classic game? Putting those games as they exist on a store, letting consumers give you a fair price for them, and standardization across all consoles going forward. Microsoft sure figured that out, I dont know about Sony but I imagine their selection is far better than what Nintendo offers on the switch.

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Darmik posted...

Interesting that 'passion' actually means voice acting and technical achievement.

Its pretty funny honestly. Other developers can create huge detailed worlds. Hours and hours of content. Really fun, immersive experiences. Technical marvels. Beautiful gorgeous games. Intricate online systems. Interesting characters and compelling stories. And Nintendo hasnt caught up to the voice acting thing that happened some decades ago. Its just one example though friend.

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VGAddict90 posted...

What about Ocarina of Time? Majora's Mask? Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2?

Great games. What about them?

Nintendo 20 years ago put out OoT and it was impressive for its day. Few companies could put out games that good back then

Now its 2021. Other companies can do what Nintendo does in their sleep. They can create games that arent just fun, but are a technical achievement at levels Nintendo games fail to reach. Were talking about decades of achievement around the industry and youre holding on to good games from 1998.

Its 2021 for fuck sake and Nintendo still cant even create fully voice acted games. Theyre not in the same league as other developers. They went from leading an industry to not being able to even sit at the same table in my eyes.

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CyricZ posted...

So basically

Im going to stop you there.

Youre really bad at this. If this were a test, writing nothing would have been a far superior answer to the one you gave. This complete lack of understanding of the assignment would have you held back a grade. Fuckin yikes.

Jabodie posted...

Spider Man is pretty good but it's not that good. I'm not sure why it's being touted as some pinnacle in gaming ITT.

IMHO its that good. You cannot show me a video game that Nintendo has ever produced thats even in the same league as Spider-Man. And thats just one example. Heres another example: Red Dead Redemption 2. Put your bias aside, Nintendo is not capable of creating the same calibre of game as RDR2.

But thats not really the point. Homie said only Nintendo games are made with love and care.

Thats just complete and utter horse poop and a silly thing to say.


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CyricZ posted...

For a guy who viciously defended S-E's Avengers right up to release date, you sure are taking some risks claiming to know what games have "soul".

This is the one time your weird, unhealthy obsession of that game is actually somewhat relevant to the conversation

One company puts their heart and soul into game and produces Spider-Man. And the quality of that game shows on every level. Another company phones in an Avengers game and is a very good example of something that didnt sell or review well on name recognition alone. Nintendo products often dont see this distinction, and will sell and review well simply because of the name on the box.

btw. About your weird unhealthy obsession. I have to point out the irony in how my arguments about that game and many like it(NMS for example), werent that I thought it was going to be flawless and perfect. It was that it was impossible to have an actual conversation about the game because all threads devolved into the most spiteful, toxic whining of people who wanted to see the game fail. The game came and went. I posted a few times about its flaws, disappointments and things that I liked. But you using this as a Hail Mary when you lose arguments about Nintendo or even trans issues for shits sakes. Not only is it just a sad attempt derailing. Its just proves me right about the toxicity of wanting a game to fail so bad, this is the level that you take it. Since I know youre not a troll, the only other explanation of such a compulsion isdeeply unhealthy my dude.

but this is the last time I entertain this in a topic that isnt about it. @ me and create a topic when the black Panther expansion comes out. I may get back into it then.

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YoungMutual posted...

Corporate Nintendo practices aside, where complaints are completely valid, the amount of care and love they make their games with are things souless shit Ubisoft, EA, Activision and all these shit western companies will never compare.

People put up with Nintendo because no one makes games like them

This is a load of Nintendrone horseshit koolaide nonsense.

Im not arguing Nintendo doesnt make good games sometimes. But to say its all care and love and no one else is doing this? Open your eyes my dude.

First of all, when theyre not being completely lazy with such examples as $60 for 3 copy pasted Roms in Super 3D Allstars.

You wanna talk soulless? How about sitting on literally fucking dozens of beloved franchises and doing absolutely fucking nothing with them for years.

And my dude. Im a thousand percent serious. Theres more passion, love and raw talent put in the just first 10 minutes of Spider-Man (PS4) then Nintendo has demonstrated they have the capability to achieve in decades. Milking familiar characters with a cutesy art style to a fan base who was going to buy it regardless isnt the same as love and care.

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Ranting Nord posted...

I think the biggest thing people forget is that Nintendo focuses on kids. The Switch Lite is aimed at kids and parents looking to buy a 3DS replacement. It's cheaper than a full Switch so Johnny and Susie can both get one.

Switch lite could still be cheaper and target Johnny, Susie and Maybe since their parents Tim and Lisa have a switch, the kids switch lite can dock to the family TV too and they can get together on the big screen and pull up Johnnys village in animal crossing. Or maybe Susie is a little older and she gets a job and the first things she buys is a TV and her own dock for her switch lite.

I just dont see why yall wanna go out of your way to only see this market through the eyes of Nintendos incompetence.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

codey posted...

Why would consumers that have zero need to dock want a console with the ability to do that?

Why is this such a hard concept for you to understand?

Do you seriously not comprehend that a switch lite could be marketed to multiple demographics?

You literally just asked me why consumers would want a more useful, functional product. A better question would be: Why would a company create a product that only sells to a limited number of peopleinstead of one thats far more useful and wide reaching? I dont know. But these are only questions a person has when you talk about Nintendo products.

To explain it as perfectly clear as I can do you understand

Switch lite that cant dock: only targets handheld gamers

Switch lite that can dock: targets those exact same handheld gamers. But get this rightalso gamers who already own a dock, have friends with docks. Or may be willing to give ol Nintendo some more of that stuff they call Moneyif one day they may plan to buy a dock.

First option creates an arbitrary divide in your market. Second doesnt. You see how thats better?

And then on top of this. Nintendo created a market of exclusively handheld users who have to buy an inferior product that can never dock. Then they went and made a better version of their more functional console that can dockbut literally all the benefits of this console are handheld based.

Baffling things that need to be explained.


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The Popo posted...

Any consumer with half a brain knows about this going in. If you want the ability to dock, you get the regular version.

You cant make statements like this without some perception of what kinds of consumers buy Nintendo products. Right?

Dont sit here and tell me they couldnt have sold a switch lite at a budget price, kept the docking features and had a MUCH better product that
a) still targeted whatever consumer has zero need for the dock, and
2) consumers that either have a dock already or may plan to buy one in the future.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

pinky0926 posted...

solid user experience

This is where I have to disagree. The user experience on a Nintendo console is noticeably lagging decades behind others. Its frustrating, overpriced, and tedious. Its riddled with mediocrity and dead end after dead end, and you have to wonder how ANYONE puts up with it.

No Bluetooth support? No Netflix or other streaming apps? Abysmal online features? No selection of classic games on their store? $100 for fucking JOYCONS???? No price drop on ANYTHING they sell?

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codey posted...

Docks are probably sold separately so people can set up multiple ones in their home. If someone wants to watch tv in the living room it makes it easier to pack it up and get your switch going on a tv in another room without having to move furniture and unplug all your cables.

I never said there was no good reason to buy another dock. But stating there are so many reasons why people would buy a second switch without a dock, but still have use for the docking feature.


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Antifar posted...

Can't they buy another Switch?

Why cant Nintendo not make moronic decisions? Make a lite handheld version thats cheaper, has no dock in the box but still has the functionality of a switch?

You can buy the dock separatelybut you cant buy a switch without a dock. Moronic things only Nintendo would do.

CyricZ posted...

I would posit that would make them not dumb at all.

If they wanted to make money imagine how well they could do if they werent run by morons.


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Releases switch lite. Which has no docking capabilities whatsoever. Useful to people who ONLY want a handheld version. Households that could benefit from multiple switches and already have a dock? Go fuck yourself.

But wait, theres more. Act now and for only $50 less than a PS5 you could get a new and improved switchwhich improvements are solely handheld based, directly competing with the one thing the switch lite does.

Jesus fuck.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

Ive had cats for 2/3rds of my life, I like cats.

But if there was two bombs that were about to go off and I only had time to diffuse one. One bomb will kill all cats in existence and the other will kill a single stray dog.

I will choose to defuse the latter every single time. Thats how much better dogs are than cats.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

Who wins?

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

Irony posted...

It was terrible from the start. Almost as bad as fuck yeah seaking and ultra instinct shaggy

It was a simple obvious joke directly from the movies. Nothing like forcing a meme out of nowhere like those other two examples.

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It was always a running joke but the amount of times Ive seen it in the last month has completely killed it.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

This topic is now about pictures of our pets.



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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch

Its petty good I cant lie.

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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch