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spudger posted...

I dont like what they are doing either, but they are just following orders by Trump, they have no choice.

I'm sure there's some sick fucks in ICE that get off on this power trip though.

Just following orders is never an excuse for immoral and unethical behavior.
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Maybe this is a good example of why having a bunch of stupid assholes walking around armed to the teeth all the time isn't a fucking good idea.
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Nickelback or Jimmy Buffett.
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Dash_Harber posted...

I know this is probably fake, but if not, you are going to get cheated on, and you totally deserve it.

with this logic I deserve to throw myself all over this girl I liked for 20 years and she's engaged to be married.

NO he doesn't deserve it. some guys just dont respect anything

Yes he does. She is not property and can talk to who she pleases. If someone is so insecure that they are worried about their partner even talking to someone else, then that is entirely their problem. Trying to set rules for your partner is ridiculous and immature. If I was her, I'd hit the road ASAP.

Pretty much this.
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"I want to be able to smoke pot while I still fuck over the poor"
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He's basically Bertrand Russell for low information types.
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As a Saint Louisan I can tell you for a fact this was racial. Clayton is a super rich yuppy white suburban area. The clayton police are pretty well known for harassing any minority they come in contact with. Had these been whtie kids who produced reciepts that would have been the end of it. They would have not been detained or marched back to the diner.
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Woohoo. Go capitalism. It's better for people to die of exposure than devalue my product.
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They'd be better off to show up unarmed. If they showed up armed it would just give the DC police and the National Guard an excuse to murder them.
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Epcot World Showcase is my jam. Especially during the international food and wine festival.
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As predicted by everyone with a brain, it hasn't.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worker-wages-drop-while-companies-spend-billions-to-boost-stocks/
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Awesome posted...

it's okay, all is well in europe, nothing to see here.

Fuck off. This happens here for the World Series, the Super Bowl, and the Stanley Cup.
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DarkTransient posted...

And bam, watch as liberals go back to their pre-2016 attitude of "Jews are included in the groups it's fine to take issue with".

Criticism of Israel is not criticism of jews. It is criticism of a country's positions and behavior. But you would know that if you weren't a dishonest turd.
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gunplagirl posted...

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scorpion41 posted...

The Jewish people took the land and developed into one of the most powerful, successful small countries in the world...meanwhile the slew of Muslim countries around them are still poor and underdeveloped. Not to mention the constant terrorism from Hamas and PLO. Why is Israel the problem again?

I always get a kick out of liberals calling the right Nazis while they have been trying to wipe out a Jewish country for years lol. Maybe it's projection?

The right has literal avowed Nazis on several ballots this year

And liberals don't hate Israel because they're Jewish, it's because of the human rights violations and theft of the land through illegal actions funded by other nations.

This. I have several jewish friends. I have 0 issues with Jews, their culture, or their religions (that I don't have with any other religion). What do I have is severe issues with Israel's policies.

The whole "I have a x friend" argument rarely holds up

That said, few if any of my Jewish friends (religious and ethnic) support Israel or even believe it should exist given how it arose.

I just despise that one can't hate Israel's policies without being labeled anti-semitic. Isreal doesn't not equate to Judaism or it's practicing members, it only equates to Israel.
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gunplagirl posted...

BignutzisBack posted...

scorpion41 posted...

The Jewish people took the land and developed into one of the most powerful, successful small countries in the world...meanwhile the slew of Muslim countries around them are still poor and underdeveloped. Not to mention the constant terrorism from Hamas and PLO. Why is Israel the problem again?

I always get a kick out of liberals calling the right Nazis while they have been trying to wipe out a Jewish country for years lol. Maybe it's projection?

The right has literal avowed Nazis on several ballots this year

And liberals don't hate Israel because they're Jewish, it's because of the human rights violations and theft of the land through illegal actions funded by other nations.

This. I have several jewish friends. I have 0 issues with Jews, their culture, or their religions (that I don't have with any other religion). What do I have is severe issues with Israel's policies.
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scorpion41 posted...

The Jewish people took the land and developed into one of the most powerful, successful small countries in the world...meanwhile the slew of Muslim countries around them are still poor and underdeveloped. Not to mention the constant terrorism from Hamas and PLO. Why is Israel the problem again?

Yeah the Isrealis only have the backing/funding/military surplus of the worlds most powerful militaries.
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frozenshock posted...

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It' almost a the Jews there are being as bigoted as their Islamic enemies.

Maybe but they're a tiny little country in the middle of a vast ocean of countries that have sworn to wipe them off the map. They can't really afford to be very tolerant

It's almost as if they came stole the land from the people it actually belonged to and then acted surprised when said people weren't cool with it.
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Dorcel is pretty good if you don't mind all the dialogue being in french.
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But remember guys anyone who doesn't support Israel's agenda is anti-semitic.
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Libertarians are just people who want to smoke pot while they fuck over poor people and minorities.
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Doom_Art posted...

ledbowman posted...

No leaks. . This is how we know we're a real family

God damn that is so fucking sinister

Party over country.
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frozenshock posted...

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Yup, they had plenty of meddling and spreading fake news during that as well.

I'm so fucking tired of Russia.

It's like the western world is too stupid to unite against a common enemy.

It's that they are too stupid to unite. It's that capitalism has now been allowed to infect every single western institution. The people with the money are only interested in one thing, getting more money. They will manipulate everything they can for the sole goal of profit.

Also lets not forget in the case of brexit that if the election were held again right now, it would be voted down. It not as if the vote was overwhelmingly pro-brexit. It was 51.98% to 48.11% Go back and watch the news coverage and the interviews of people on the street, the majority of them who voted for brexit didn't even understand what it actually meant.
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Ray_Dorset posted...

How did we go from "Russia is our biggest geopolitical threat" 6 years ago, to Republicans actively defending their attacks against the US? Blows my mind

Because conservatives are morally bankrupt and only care about power.
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Like Alabama? Where they passed their voter ID law and closed the nine DMVs in the areas with the most black people in them? They used the excuse of budget cuts despite having passed a bond issue the previous year that was specifically to fund DMVs.
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ledbowman posted...

Trump Crime Family is too stupid to do a successful cover-up. He's been a criminal for decades. Mueller will definitely recommend indictment of Trump.

To be fair, when you get away with shit for years and years you start to think of yourself as untouchable, and up till now most of these people have been. Look at Manafort.
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I like how the guy very calmly unbuttons his work shirt and takes off his glasses before he obliterates the douchebag.
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Bio1590 posted...

What's the plan if the next President comes in and reinstates them?

We win. We are already compliant.
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sondast posted...

At least you still have a job. When our current project is finished I will be out of work because of Trump's trade war.

Ouch. That sucks dude. I'm safe for the most part. I've got 16 years in on the factory floor with pretty much every certification the company offers and job knowledge on damn near every line in the company. If I lose my job it's because the company has gone under.
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

What industry are you in TC?

Commercial refrigeration, I can't say any more than that due to legal reasons unfortunately. Basically we build refrigerators and freezers for restaurants, gas stations, grocery stores, and pretty much any place where you can buy a beverage from a reach-in refrigerator.

Th3_Butt3rfly posted...

Well thanks for explaining it instead of offering nothing and being a jerk. Great post.

Ok, this is the best way to explain it. Imagine it in terms of a car. If you were to shut down your lines and completely redesign down to even the most minute of electrical parts to change your vehicle into one that runs on an entirely different fuel, you would not (without incurring costs almost as high as that of your conversion) be able to convert back to the original version. You can no longer even order the components that go in them (IE screws and everything that makes up the product that we don't manufacture our self), the people that manufacture them have moved on to new customers. Any kind of large scale manufacturing operation is a logistical puzzle that really only goes together one way.
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Th3_Butt3rfly posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

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Fluttershy462 posted...

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Fluttershy462 posted...

Now your company wont be burdened by shitty regulations.

If your company was worth anything, it should be able to recover.

I'm pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue about anything, let alone this.

You guys should have been compliant from the start though, its not like the EPA regulations were anything new.

The ones that were supposed to go into effect last year were actually. They were given X amount of years to be compliant. We were done months in advance, most of our competitors weren't even half way to compliance. Clearly you have no concept of how long it takes to design, prototype, test, redesign, and finally bring to production (which includes competely retooling your lines).

Boo hoo. Now you're just helping the environment without being forced to. And lots of customers like green(er) companies so that's terrible too.

I'm perfectly ok with it being greener. My problem is with the fact 250 of my co-workers lost their jobs because a dumbshit who doesn't understand basic economics is calling the shots.

Theoretically, they could all be hired back and you could all just go back to your old (and presumably cheaper) way of doing business. Sounds like your company was just looking to reduce headcount.

Tagged as clueless in how manufacturing works.
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Th3_Butt3rfly posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

Fluttershy462 posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

Fluttershy462 posted...

Now your company wont be burdened by shitty regulations.

If your company was worth anything, it should be able to recover.

I'm pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue about anything, let alone this.

You guys should have been compliant from the start though, its not like the EPA regulations were anything new.

The ones that were supposed to go into effect last year were actually. They were given X amount of years to be compliant. We were done months in advance, most of our competitors weren't even half way to compliance. Clearly you have no concept of how long it takes to design, prototype, test, redesign, and finally bring to production (which includes competely retooling your lines).

Boo hoo. Now you're just helping the environment without being forced to. And lots of customers like green(er) companies so that's terrible too.

I'm perfectly ok with it being greener. My problem is with the fact 250 of my co-workers lost their jobs because a dumbshit who doesn't understand basic economics is calling the shots.
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Fluttershy462 posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

Fluttershy462 posted...

Now your company wont be burdened by shitty regulations.

If your company was worth anything, it should be able to recover.

I'm pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue about anything, let alone this.

You guys should have been compliant from the start though, its not like the EPA regulations were anything new.

The ones that were supposed to go into effect last year were actually. They were given X amount of years to be compliant. We were done months in advance, most of our competitors weren't even half way to compliance. Clearly you have no concept of how long it takes to design, prototype, test, redesign, and finally bring to production (which includes competely retooling your lines).
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Are you in one of those rural small areas who were told Trump would fix all their problems?

Me personally? No. The business itself and most of it's employees? Yes.
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Fluttershy462 posted...

Now your company wont be burdened by shitty regulations.

If your company was worth anything, it should be able to recover.

I'm pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue about anything, let alone this.
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The first time was last year when the EPA regulations that were due to go into effect were killed by the Trump administration. The company I work for had spent years and roughly 20 million or so dollars in compliance efforts, part of which was completely redesigning our entire product line. That resulted in 200 factory employees and 50 office employees losing their jobs, and those of us who remained had our hours cut down to 32 a week for 3 months.

Now, we have been informed that due to the increased material costs caused by the trade war, our bonus is gone this year as well as our annual raise.

So much winning.
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Religious zealots would label them as servants of the devil and start fights with them.
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I enjoy his books, but goddamn if that man wasn't some kind of luddite.
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That would require the dems to take an actual stand on something, so not gonna happen.
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Peter_Giffyndor posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

kinda weird how CE's literal socialists love the tariffs and hate the working class poor all of a sudden

Because they voted for Trump and deserve to be punished.

ITP: Literally everyone in the Midwest votes for Trump. It is perfectly OK to discriminate, generalize, and hate people as long as it fits the toxic liberal agenda.

You people lol. This is how Trump gets re-elected.

Is it or is it not true that the only way people will learn the lesson to not elect a person who has no clue how the government functions or how the global economy works is to let them feel the effects of that decision?
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hollow_shrine posted...

Kineth posted...

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MedzXVIII posted...

Is preventing HIV really worth the dangers of vaccinations?

What are the 'dangers of vaccinations?'

I'm gonna take a wager that his post wasn't actually a serious one.

I think you're right, but there are an unfortunate number of anti-vaccination supporters in here. I'd like to learn, in their own terms, what their damage is.

They aren't very smart. It's fairly self explanatory.
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But guys it's ok that we have an incoherent babbling idiot for a president because he pisses of teh liberalz.
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A brief study of Greek history will tell you that it was rife was homosexual behavior.
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ultimate reaver posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Oh man, this site reeeeally hates Israel

A lot of places do these days, even the right isn't united for them anymore. Israel doesn't lend themselves well to being liked

What exactly is there to like about Israel? I mean insofar as it's policies and culture go.
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DanHarenDynasty posted...

eston posted...

DanHarenDynasty posted...

Makes sense considering the people who regularly shop at Walmart are likely to be trump supporters.

Not really, no

Yes really, yes

In rural America yes.

spanky1 posted...

Watching huge companies like this scramble as a result of a nation divided is kinda funny. "But...I thought everyone hated Trump...but...the backlash...but..."

It's like they don't know what to do.

Yeah it's almost as if corporations have zero principles are only interested in what's going to make them the most money.
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CableZL posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed

Didn't work for Charles Kinsey

Yeah, police certainly have no problem murdering unarmed people of any race. But lets not pretend here that you aren't more likely to be murdered by them if you are black.
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MedzXVIII posted...

1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.
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Ok. Spoilers for the Aftermath book series and the Bloodlines novel. In the trilogy that takes place immediately after episode 6 the imperial bureaucracy has fallen apart and the Moffs, Generals, and Admirals are all doing their own thing and only cooperating when they have to. One guy, Gallius Rax, a very powerful but mysterious, imperial grand admiral is working behind the scenes to unite the remnants.

Little does anyone know that Rax is operating under what is called "the contingency". A plan that was set up by Palpatine and known only to Rax. The goal of the contingency was as follows: If Palpatine were ever to die, he didn't want the empire to remain. Rax's job was to destroy it, and in it's destruction find the best that the empire had to offer and recruit them into the thing that was eventually supposed to replace it. Rax gathers the remnants of the empire to Jakku, at the same time he lures the New Republic fleet there as well for the purpose of having the two fleets fight it out and hopefully destroying each other in the process. Rax has already diverted a bunch of troops, ships, and resources (the best of what was left) to a hidden place in wild space that Palpatine had scouted out years prior and plans to go out and join them, to become the leader.

The fleets fight, the republic wins barely. Rax is caught by some heroes, along with an Imperial admiral who wasn't down with Rax's plan. Rax get's killed but the Admiral takes the transport that Rax was going to use and joins the hidden imperial remnant in wild space. This remnant is what eventually grows into The First Order. General Hux's father was the architect behind the new imperial stormtrooper program.

Skip ahead a bunch of years to the bloodlines book. The Republic senate has basically split into two factions. Populists (who favor a weak central government) and Centrists (who favor a more powerful chancellor with more authority). To discredit Leia (a prominent populist) the truth about Vader being her father is leaked and she is basically politically blacklisted. This is because Leia has basically stumbled across a plot involving the First Order (even though she doesn't really know what it is yet). The first order has been hiding and silently recruiting all these years, helping keep the senate fighting amongst itself and keeping the Republic weak and ineffective. Their plan is to foment local rebellions using militia groups that it's funding that the weak republic government will be unable to deal with. Then the First Order will come in and save the day and restore order to the government.

Leia knows something bad is coming, but isn't sure what, but knows that the Republic will be ill-equipped to deal with it, so she gathers up people that are loyal to her, and they start putting together resources for their own paramilitary group which will eventually become the resistance.

The origins of Snoke or how the First Order's return to the Galaxy comes about haven't been addressed in any of the books or comics that I've read.
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