Lurker > MZero

Another interesting thing to note is that no one has really tried to lynch Mike since day 2 when it would be very easy for scum to take a hard "lynch all 3rd parties" stance and avoid doing anything

Mike/Isquen scum team and they faked the scan to clear him? And they killed Chris to make Mike's scan look more believable? Hmmmm

Thank you plum for being a voice of reason

Also you were apparently the only one that knew I scanned Scare yesterday and no one listened to you

red13n posted...

He had an opportunity to commute again if he had it in pocket instead of dying and didn't do it.

I can't scan if I commute

I'm essentially playing a game of chicken with scum. They have to decide whether to block/kill me knowing it'll be wasted if I dip out

And knowing if my commute is multi use or one use only helps scum

You basically forced town to lynch the BP and now you're trying to lynch the commuter

But ya your town

MikeTavish posted...

My logic is this: If it's one time use, he's probably scum scared of revealing that info. If it's multi use, he's basically confirmed town and scum can't risk shooting him because he could just commute during the night and ruin the night kill for scum. This is the case whether he reveals the info or not, so again, what is the benefit to not telling us?

You're literally asking me to tell scun if they can NK me or not

MikeTavish posted...

A...Are Mzero and Plum scum together? I really don't know why my logic is being questioned. Am I speaking a different language here?

Yeah you're speaking scum

MikeTavish posted...

Mzero. Is your commute multi-use or one time?

##Vote: Mike

why in the world would i answer this

Yesterday I vote Scare, and then ask about the possibility of scum having a WoL role. Today I vote red, he claims, and I ask if that's a town flavor. It's explained to me and I unvote. This isn't rocket science

And also I already explained how it was obvious I had a flavor scan if you were paying attention

MikeTavish posted...

Yeah, depending on what that info was I was very down to find some scum together. Unfortunately, you claimed to have no info, then changed it to having a flavour scan that was never mentioned until people started looking at you funny. And "wasting" a scan by confirming the third party isn't lying through his teeth doesn't sound like a waste to me.

Also Plum, you can just no lynch in that circumstance, right? For all we know it's a one use commute which would make tons of sense if he's on the scum side of things.

you could easily have claimed your actual flavor, it would prove nothing unless you lied about that

Oh and I've driven a lynch on scum and all you've done is force town to choose between lynching you and lynching Town BP, which you had to do to get your powers and fulfill your win condition

Your claimed win condition literally involves killing a member of town. You are anti-town

Also you didn't seem to mind following me onto red earlier under the assumption I had info

MikeTavish posted...

Also in what universe does a flavour scanner not scan the claimed third party bulletproof cop to prove whether I'm bs'ing y'all or not? Especially when half the game has been coming in with conspiracy theories of me being Zenos as an SK, Zenos as a cult leader, Zenos as a chef of a fancy restaurant...

Seems like an easy way to prove I'm on town's side (at least come as close as we can get to proving it) yet two nights in a row you decided to go after other people. Why?

I already know you aren't town, and I was assuming town would be smart enough to lynch you eventually. No need to waste a scan

Also I can only commute or scan each night, not both, and I lose a day phase if I commute, so I'm way weaker than bulletproof cop

Almost none of Isquen's posts make sense to me

Crescent-Moon posted...

Ultimately Plum, I feel like we're missing something about the bigger picture here.

I don't think Mike and MZero are both town.

You're right

Mike is 3rd party

Mike that is

you guys should have just lynched him Day 2 >_>

Crescent-Moon posted...

And this is the real reason I've been suspicious of you.

you're suspecting me over the guy who claimed 3rd party and forced a lynch of Town BP? >_>

Well to be fair, Mike is third party, not town. Also he had to gladiator a specific town character and win, which he never should have been able to pull off >_>

Crescent-Moon posted...

Though I am wondering more on that point.

Scare's flip specifically said he scanned as "town", not "pure". There's been some ambiguity on what "pure" even means.

Actually, it said "You will now appear as that characters flavor and alignment if Scanned."

no mention of Town specifically

oh I'm dumb you're not talking about godfather for my role

Scare's role implies there is an alignment scanner, and Mike is uncountered. Hmmm

Leafeon13N posted...

Scare scans as town, that is what godfather does.

But he can only take flavors that are already flipped

MZero posted... So what do we think the chances are that there is a scum WoL too and Mike was supposed to try and find that one instead of Ulti? I remember people talking about a character named Elidibus who would fit the bill. I think that makes the role make more sense.

first page of day 3

Actually I'll just drop the info

I have a flavor scan on nights I don't commute. Scare came up Warrior of Light (I hinted at this actually) red came up Mother Porxie (hence why I asked about it being a town flavor after he claimed)

so red is being honest about his flavor at least. I've never played FFXIV and assumed it was scum after I googled it and saw it was a boss

i mean i think it's pretty obvious if you've been paying attention!

slimes

Easy Cubchoo vote

unfortunately just like Teddiursa it loses all it's appeal when it evolves

sounds like something changed my mind since yesterday

i dont feel the need to go into more detail than that

MikeTavish posted...

Mzero coming in hot on Red for seemingly no reason confused me when it was all said and done. I really thought he was gonna drop some kinda info bomb on us or something.

I said yesterday I didn't think scare and red were scum together

Then I cam in, voted red, and backed off when he claimed

I'll let you put the pieces together

MikeTavish posted...

So how did you know Red visited you, Mzero? I thought your power was to disappear for a day or whatever.

I don't know where this is coming from but I didn't

Kind of convenient though!

##Unvote

i buy the claim for now

Hmmm

I looked up mother porxie and it looks like a boss. Why is it town?

Also it's curious that scum didn't block you after you claimed scanning powers. Or did you claim 1 shot? I dont remember

Or does scum have no RB and Plum is pulling a fast one on us? HMMM

I trust plum for now though

6]Ulti - Mike, Isquen, Plum, Tidus, Red, Scare
[2]Mike - (Isquen), Ulti, (Tidus), (Plum), Chris, (Scare)

Scare was scum, red probably scum, Mike is you, Isquen might be scum too

Two confirmed town on your lynch

hmmm

MikeTavish posted...

Because with all the info that was given including me straight up saying i dont mind being lynched, the town decided to trust me over Ulti. I felt like, after that, my scan, and the Scare lynch, I'd be provided with some modicum of trust but it only seems to have left further doubt in everyone's minds. Frustrating but not unbelievable, I guess, it is Mafia.

I mean the last two votes on Ulti were probably scum

Also third parties are inherently untrustworthy

That's -1 right? Don't hammer plz

Mike you claimed third party idk why you're surprised to get suspicion

Crescent-Moon posted...

MZero claimed some... Catnap thing that I still don't trust I don't remember the flavor

you don't trust me after Scare flipped scum? >_>

Red claims or dies tbh

trust me

Although idk why they would kill Chris when his flip makes Isquen look even worse

Yeah Isquen is probably scum too. That claim still makes no sense

##Vote: red

claim plz

It's been a long time since I played most of these but it's either SwSh, BW, or HGSS I think

voted for SwSh though cause I figured it needed it

Am I the only one concerned that Isquen's claim looks copy pasted? Maybe we just shouldn't talk about it though

Anyway going to bed

I'm struggling to see how you get from "if you visit someone during the night, your actions will not be seen by any roles monitoring movements" to "I can see if someone gets visited in the night"

uh oh

At one point Magmar was my favorite Pokemon. Still like him quite a bit. The size of Kadabra's tail bothers me

Magmar > Machoke > Electabuzz > Kirilia > Kadabra > Gothorita > Morgrem > G-Mime > Gurdurr

for example, Scare came in yesterday and voted Mike. Red told him to wait and he unvoted and said "as you wish red" or something. Then they were the last two votes on Ulti

i could be overthinking it but yeah

I was on red day 1 and nothing has made me feel better about him since

but assuming Scare flips scum there are some interactions between them that make me wonder if they would link themselves like that