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Anyway I still think everyone giving Dumey a pass is hand waving the idea that Dumey random breaking from town makes no sense

Breaking from scummate because the pairing looks scummy makes a LOT more sense

Evaluate Dumey's play don't just give him a pass for day 1. Look at the end of day 2 and Dumey looks way worse

Oh didn't see FD finish catching up

FDs read is good

Please lynch Ulti thank you FD

Oh and I still think FD is town from day 1 play but man he's way off right now

Alright so I took some time off and reevaluated, here's the thing

Sultan and Chris probably both town. Chris gave sketch reasoning because he'd 'cleared' him with prosty mostly.

Ulti randomly calling Sultan super town feels like a pocket attempt. Think that was literally out of nowhere.

Mzero felt genuine energy to do an epic play and we were feeding off each other. Think he's town more than before.

Dumey initially suggesting triple kill with him Sultan and Chris and then getting cold feet when I was gonna do it feels like it was a setup for me to encourage him to triple kill and then use it to paint me scummy that I foiled by wanting an epic play.

Isquen town from last night
Corrik town obvious from claim
JC is town because hes been playing with mislynches in a more genuine way. He jumped into the fire both days. He also did it for a really good reason yesterday to save an Corrik from suicide.

I'd REALLY like to triple kill with me Dumey and Ulti. If Chris will give me a chance to redeem myself I'll take that. If we can just kill Ulti that'll work too if you're mortally convinced Dumey is town.

Chris should then pair with Dumey (or Ulti if we kill Dumey) and let us know if he moves.

EDumey posted...

Yeah after Kirby and Lea confirmed date, it would have been very easy for FD to offer a date to Peaf or JC instead of me. I don't know what the timing was before Kirby broke up with Lea because FD was available. Might be worth looking to see if FD even had an opportunity to make another choice.

FD reached out to Kirby first, waiting for Kirby to break up with Lea to date him. He had the first date

Then me and Lea

Then JC and you

Keep in mind FD broke up with me after Peaf and Dumey broke up and it would be super easy to rationalize pairing with Peaf

EDumey posted...

Lopen, why is FD on your "always town" list? Just general play, or a specific action?

Specifically not saving Peaf OR Dumey day 1. I still had you as possible scum until today. Now how the day has played out you're probably town because we shook out the scum

I'm still up to detonating Sultan + Chris

But I strongly suspect the scumteam is Ulti + Chris

Ulti being rock solid on Sultan being town is beyond the pale of 4th alignment Ulti. It's misdirection

Hey its a power role let's kill it cause scum prosty saw it

Or maybe they just blind shot Death because he got up

What if Chris is scum Prosty who finds out the role of who he sleeps with and that's why scum blind shot and hit Death

Honestly

The scum is found in the people who think I'm scum at this point

I am literally wanting to suicide for glorious purpose and wrote a disposition why Isquen is town

Why would anyone suspect me

I think the gameplan should be to destroy Chris or Sultan whoever doesn't pair with Ulti

Use me as the bomb to clean the other two tomorrow

Ulti has NO REASON to go this hardline on Sultan town. He's gambiting to protect Chris probably

Here is the gameplan

Lynch Chris today

Lynch Ulti + Sultan tomorrow

Crazy theory

Sultan is town just tilting

Ulti is scum trying to look super scummy so Chris can not be destroyed

SirChris posted...

tell you what

we kill ulti today, and you leave my cute kouhai alone.

Nope

Sultan shrieking that this is what scum Lopen does is ridiculous

He claimed scum

I'll tell you what

We lynch Sultan today

If Ulti pairs with him to stop it we use me as the bomb tomorrow to double Ulti + Sultan

Ulti is being super defensive of Sultan based off nothing

I wish I could explode Ulti and Sultan but obviously that won't work

SirChris posted...

Because I think it's likely both mafia would have moved last night. Sultan is fine.

What is the scumteam comp theoretically

Kirby321 posted...

You just needed to pair with somebody decently towny on N3 to confirm your prosty role, but you chose to reveal it now under suboptimal conditions. Why?

Heat check

Kirby321 posted...

Because let's be real. This is a battle of attrition, and there's no way scum has any chance of winning it when they've been down one member from Day 1 onward.

I want a death blow

I think Sultan is claimed scum and the only way we lose is if Chris is GF

You all can solve without me if Chris is town. It's not the end of the world

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lopen I have caught you in 2 games playing exactly this way as scum like come on now dude

Telling people to lynch me so I can take two scum with me? I don't think that's in scum Lopen playbook

MZero posted...

scum is flailing

we have a chance to do something legendary town, don't waste it

Give me the power

Please Kirby

Trust. It's stupid. But it will win.

Sultan saying a scum would do what I'm doing is him showing scum

I'd MUCH rather with Sultan being guaranteed scum get Chris coasting off scans off the board

Just trust that Isquen is lock town, FD is lock town, Kirby is lock town and win from that point.

I think it'd be Ulti or Dumey if Chris is town but yeah if we get at least one scum here the game is very winnable

There are two ways to play mafia

- Letting scans rule you
- You rule the scans

Chris has looked terrible to everyone this game and is now failing the heat check

If he's just scanned town he doesn't care about dying that much. The game is still very winnable. He'd start solving

Instead he's lashing out at me

Heat check failed

I think Chris and Sultan are failing the heat check tbh

SirChris posted...

There is no godfather fear

There is from no less than 3 players

Kirby321 posted...

I will, however, veto a triple kill. It'd be funny if it worked, but if it doesn't work? Yeah, no, let's not bungle this game after lynching the impossible with Peaf's flip D1.

Do you think I'm mortally confirmed town

Because if you don't get me off the table with Sultan and remove gf fear

Did you get red scan result Kirby

Testing godfathers you picked the wrong guy to mess with

The two in opposition...

https://youtu.be/fBGWtVOKTkM?si=a2UQ9S4bbMbwulCJ

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8085678d.png

SirChris posted...

I am never wrong on sultan tbh but sure

He can be one of the three

SirChris posted...

Like if you want godfather fear that's fine but you trio someone who has nothing going for them lol

So you are one of the three and Sultan is one of the three. I volunteer to be one of the three because you've got a lot of people calling for my head on Lea

Sounds like you sign off on the plan

Sheep the hell out of Lopen TODAY

I want a three scum game solved in 3 days. The only way to keep the dream alive is to get two on day 3

Sultan has nothing going for him

Chris LOVES to open wolf

Imagine him advocating Peaf blatantly and then pairing with Sultan and saying he's dead sure he's town.

Man it feels right doesn't it. Peaf insanity be damned. Pair up and back away.

Let me destroy them.

This one... is for Lea

Here is the way it is

1. Mzero
2. Lopen
3. Chaeix (JC)
4. Isquen
5. FD
6. Ulti
7. Dumey
8. Corrik
9. Sultan
10. Kirby
11. Sir Chris

If I or you suicide into Sultan + Sir Chris, corrik is killed tonight, we are left with

1. Mzero
2. Lopen/Dumey
3. Chaeix (JC)
4. Isquen
5. FD
6. Ulti
7. Kirby

I think FD and Isquen are lock town. Strong town read on Mzero. If I trust Lea Kirby is lock town.

If the scumteam is Dumey + JC or Dumey + Ulti it's a loss

I'd risk it. It would be legend.

I can't believe Chris thinks Sultan has to be town here.

I need the gf fear gone

Let me incinerate them both

It would be epic let's do it

I suicide into the last two scum. Glorious

Sultan is bugging me enough that I'm willing to 1v2 into him and Chris actually

I can be the bomb Dumey

EDumey posted...

The problem is that I think you just try to maneuver me into this setup and link up with Sultan to lynch me at the end. The thing about setting it up with Chris and Sultan was that they couldn't save each other at the end due to dating N2. This is PROBABLY a no go, but I am up for it if we can figure it out.

Isn't that basically just claiming scum with Sultan if I do that and you flip town

Corrik and FD I'd also gamble with

I think that's lame but it would definitely win

Heres a fun idea if you want to cheese the game

Room up Corrik and Isquen

Kill everyone else

Town wins.

MZero posted...

Also the details of your night chat have been very vague just stuff like Sultan towned so hard, did well 1v1, was solving, etc.

where are the details darn it

I agree

I left a detailed document about why I think Isquen is town

Where is the beef

Actually you know what

Screw it

I'm putting Mzero in my town pile

Dude is solving way too hard to be scum (even if his POE having Chris as suspect over Dumey feels backwards)

EDumey posted...

Would just like to say that should the numbers support it, I would be willing to do a sacrificial triple kill on Chris and Sultan tomorrow.

Dumey you still up for this

You can sub me for Chris if you'd like

Always scum:

1. Dumey

Sometimes scum in order of suspicion:

1. Sultan
2. JC
3. Ulti
4. Mzero
5. Chris

Always town:

1. Corrik
2. Isquen
3. FD
4. Kirby (RIP Lea please forgive my betrayal)

That's my current POE.

I don't see scum scum interacting like that

It felt like scum town with scum trying to look for an out to not do the thing they didn't want to do to start with

I ended up finally townclearing Ulti due to how he and Dumey were reacting yesterday to end of day

It felt like Dumey was fishing for reasons to not break up and kept asking Ulti "hey bro you sure you'll be ok if we break up" and Ulti is like "yes break up I said that already"

And then Dumey didn't do it in the end without having Ulti to blame for it